In this episode, I interview my good friend Robert Hurlbut to discuss some topics relevant to being a self employed consultant.

  • Background story
  • Developer
  • Moved Security focus last 9 - 10 years
  • Now not developing for work
  • Helping developers with secure code and threat modeling
  • Have been independent and consultant (FTE)
  • Independent for 15 + 6 years or so
  • Working Consultant agencies on and off

  • Me talking about his background presenting Security topics

  • Finding work as an independent
  • Lifecycle of  his focus
  • Development to threat modeling
  • How do I find work?
  • Developer or Architect
  • Sometimes used contract agencies

  • Can I do 1 full time project plus 2 or 3 not full time

  • Code reviews as an example

  • When moved to security, took a different approach

  • Speaking to build brand
  • Blogging
  • Establishing expertise
  • Creates inbound messaging for being an expert

  • Charging for work

  • For a long time hourly (I lead the witness on this one)
  • Staff augmentation work (like me)

  • Security and training, hourly didn't work out well

  • Value pricing for the service is what worked best here
  • Budgeting is easier for companies
  • Mentions travel (something I don't know about)

  • Client expectation handling advice

  • Making sure expectations are clear
  • Deliverables
  • Schedule
  • Meet or exceed

  • Commination of expectations

  • Things are not always 100% ok
  • Have to be ready to manage for these

  • Pretty much same as being an independent

  • Things don't always work out
  • Example

  • Pros and cons of self employed/freelancing vs full time work

  • Pros
  • Self directed person that enjoys the freedom
  • Still need to manage the time

  • Cons

  • Paperwork
  • Marketing
  • Website
  • Submitting talks
  • Branding

  • Can become too busy

  • How other issue
  • Support staff
  • Finding solutions
  • Accountant
  • Payroll
  • Etc

  • Finding work

  • Advice for people looking to try out freelancing or self employment

  • Put money aside
  • 6 month salary
  • 2 months min

  • Try out some small freelance work to do on your own time first

  • Treat it as a business
  • Set up accounts for it