This episode we talk about spaces and how Divya has a resistance towards designing them because of a lack of heuristics and Kahran shares how he thinks about spaces. A major part of being open to changing your mind is the process through which you change your mind and reorient yourself in a new direction. Fortunately we were recording this time when we came across something that one of us changed our mind on. This is a different than usual episode where we do a lot of active problem solving collaboratively, and arrive at some actionable items by the end of our conversation. Theme music is by Steve Combs, available here: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Steve_Combs/Steve_Combs_Premium_Preview_EP_1325/06__Steve_Com