In this episode, we welcome our special guest Jeff Ringgenberg. This fascinating conversation moves easily from Disney and their new Magic Band wearable to Web 3 and new media formats, to mental health. Will generative art of the future create generative wealth through nothing but media that we program for ourselves? Only time will tell if the pendulum swings back the other way, or just stays vibrating in the short-form content layer. We use the trigger, action, reward framework to unpack it.

Stay tuned for Part 2 where we go deeper into the innerverse.