Elbert is an artist, librarian, free-diver, traveller and nature lover. In this episode he tells us about growing up in LA, how experiencing racism made him more resilent and tolerent, he tells stories about teaching in a poor neighborhood in south central LA,  he talks about his current passion, free-diving in Suma, and other topics. He has a youtube page at https://www.youtube.com/@diyfreediver and you can visit our blog to see other references made in the episode.