This week's Guest is Mark Baker and his story of the highs and lows of life and where his redemption came from.

Mark's story starts out with him running a resort for a while. Then one day he felt the need to be a pastor of a church. So he became a pastor and was leading a congregation in Lubbock Texas teaching grace theology. That worked till the church he was with let him go. He moved back to Dallas Texas had a small mission group for a short while till they were able to get better and moved on. So Mark became a blackjack dealer. Through the interactions with the people, he had at the casino. He was able to still help people who needed it.

From here Burl and Mark talk about their journeys through life and why being vulnerable is actually a power that makes you stronger, and how being angry and defensive actually will weaken you. Walking in shame because of what you did will hold you back more than just letting people have their own thoughts and you living your life.