In this episode, I talk with actor, voice coach, and educator Jack Greenman. Jack also happens to be my life partner. Jack left a tenured faculty position, mid-career, at Southern Methodist University to live rurally with his family and homeschool his children. Join us as we discuss creativity inside and outside of institutions, zazen meditation, homeschooling, and bringing your whole self (even the icky parts) to the creative act. We also reveal a family secret. (Shhh… don’t tell our parents!)