“Hope is power. Hope is what gets us into action.” Kathy is honored to welcome Frances Moore Lappé, the author of the groundbreaking book Diet for a Small Planet, to the podcast to celebrate the book’s 50th Anniversary Edition release. In a timely and urgent conversation, they talk about:

• How Frances spoke out against eating animals 50 years ago, when plant-based eating was a “fringe” movement
• The devastating environmental impacts of meat and dairy production, both then and now
• Working with her daughter, Anna Lappé, to establish the Small Planet Institute
• The one holdout Frances has about going vegan (Hint: it’s a certain type of cheese!)

To follow the Small Planet Institute, find them on Instagram and Facebook.

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