Topics Discussed:

1. There is a legitimate rise in people seeking to cross the border both illegally and legally, but we are not at record levels of immigration. (02:33)

2. The Northern Triangle (08:33)

3. For most of our history, border deportations were pretty informal if not absent. (14:20)

4. The Trump administration does not believe the U.S. should welcome the persecuted or oppressed. (18:57)

5. Increased migration to the US is part of an international trend -- this could be the new normal. (23:51)

Referenced:

• Our 2016 primer on immigration
• General Chapman's Last Stand (Revisionist History with Malcolm Gladwell)
• Let Me Count the Ways (This American Life)
• Radiolab Border Trilogy

Pantsuit Politics in the Wild:

• Nuance Nation Tour tickets
• Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
• Ideas at Work (October 16)
• Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Episode Resources:

• Trump scores partial win on asylum ban as court narrows injunction (Politico)
• Thousands of asylum-seekers left waiting at the US-Mexico border (PRI)
• Trump officials pressing to slash refugee admissions to zero next year (Politico)
• New Border Apprehension Numbers Show Brutal Effect of ‘Metering’ at Ports of Entry (WOLA)
• Central America’s Violent Northern Triangle (Council on Foreign...

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