00:30 - Lights up on Thanksgiving

01:30 - Holiday "No Compete Clause"

02:00 - Catherine loathes Christmas

02:50 - Leering snowman on the roof

04:15 - Catherine's Childhood Santa photo trauma

07:22 - James's Mom gave great gifts

07:41 - The 40-year-old Legos

08:30 - "Christmas comes but once a year..."

09:30 - James is a titanium trendsetter

10:13 - Ravioli is better than Christmas (says Catherine)

11:15 - RISD Alumnus rant

11:53 - What the hell is a "proof point"?

12:45 - Capacity, branding, and RISD exclusivity

15:50 - Catherine and department store windows

17:50 - Robot Ai-Da is a poet/artist/printer

18:30 - Allegedly deeply emotive algorithms

19:10 - Let's not shit on Ai-Da (no, let's)

20:00 - Catherine reads alleged poem

20:52 - YouTube is a deep dive for Catherine

21:25 - Creation vs curation vs programming

22:45 - Gendering of a garbage bag

24:00 - James is a robot

25:31 - Catherine questions efficacy of AI

26:26 - James explains "humans are not smart"

27:38 - "Meaty" substrate vs consciousness?

28:54 - "AI" movie was sad and creepy

29:30 - Catherine's phone is "Hellbound"

30:30 - Susan's phone besieged by "The Beatles"

32:00 - Data points and monetization

34:10 - Bob Dylan's art show

37:40 - Was there ever a young Dylan?

38:30 - Lateral thumb on celebrity "art"

39:24 - The 'Super Bowl' of the 'Art World': Miami Art Week

39:31 - "No."