01:29- "Joining Plastic, Glass, and Metal On the Recycle List: Fake Art" (NY Times paywall)
01:35 - It's not about recycling
01:50 - Commas trigger James
02:15 - Pretentious words trigger James
03:25 - Art world vs elites vs the masses
03:36 - Language as a weapon?
03:45 - Catherine sums article up in seconds, but they will talk about it for 20 minutes
04:00 - Most of the fake art is not destroyed
04:10 - The only recycling is that fake pieces keep showing up for sale and authentication
04:15 - If everyone is upset about forgeries, just destroy them!
04:30 - Catalogues of fakes as teaching tools
04:45 - If a piece has merits, does the author really matter?
04:56 - "Tyranny of authorship"
05:40 - Celebrate the work, not the author
06:28 - Forged pieces are stamped, retained, and potentially resurface in art world
07:58 - Deconstructing authentication
08:54 - The case of the "thrift store Pollack"
09:44 - It's a sleazy market
10:00 - Once a forgery, always a forgery?
10:55 - Bad stamp
11:30 - James holds back re: Damien Hirst
12:23 - Digression about makers' marks
13:54 - The found piece will not be destroyed
14:20 - Catherine has a knack!
15:12 - Unanswered questions
15:55 - Who authenticates the authenticator?
17:00 - James proposes a "forgery registry", Catherine suggests putting a notch in it!
19:12 - James approves NY Times web design
20:10 - What bikinis?
21:50 - Both Chagall's in article are forgeries
23:05 - Just didn't get any vibes
23:45 - Catherine proposes recycling ideas
25:00 - Authenticator's opposing specialties: Egon Schiele vs Grandma Moses
26:17 - Deconstructing the term "Folk Art"
27:00 - The genius of Grandma Moses
28:27 - Villeroy & Boch "Naif" pattern
29:00 - The term Folk Art is purely marketing
30:00 - Again, the work must stand on its own
30:12 - Training does not beget great work
31:50 - "Craft" is legit
32:25 - Catherine "paints" with fibers
32:43 - Affirmation is great
33:45 - Was this an angry podcast?
34:05 - Next week, Louise Nevelson and a discussion of "recycling" in art