Development environments are brittle and hard to manage. They lack the kind of fungibility afforded by infrastructure-as-code. Gitpod is a company that allows developers to describe development environments as code to make them easier to work with, and enabling a more streamlined GitOps workflow. Johannes Landgraf and Sven Efftinge are creators of Gitpod and they join the show to discuss the product and the motivation for building it. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices