This episode is also available as a blog post: http://abpunch.com/2021/08/25/%e0%a4%aa%e0%a4%b2%e0%a4%9f-%e0%a4%aa%e0%a4%b2%e0%a4%9f-%e0%a4%95%e0%a4%b5%e0%a4%bf%e0%a4%a4%e0%a4%be/