Jeff & Cathy discuss what they learned from failed marriages and what they are learning now in their 5+ year marriage that feels a lot more successful and solid. We all learn from failures, but we also learn from triumphs. That is what we wish for each of our listeners - a future full of learning from relationship success! Related podcasts: 24. Wisdom from Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife & 59. Real Love with Dr. Greg Baer

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