This time, everything will be better! On the twenty ninth episode of ML Backstage and the fourth episode of Season 4, Mars Luna and Joshua Luna (Josh) were able to get Holokahiki Toves (Holo) back on the podcast. Kainalu Kamai (Nalu) couldn't make it on this episode because he was in the water surfing on his day off. This episode covers the latest Mars Luna single "This Time". The boys discuss:

• Maui wildfire perspectives

• the "This Time" song breakdown

• Nalu's 2014 Vegas Trip & This Time Video

• why it's hard to say I'm sorry

• perspectives on forgiveness and reconciliation

• the most humbling things that's happened to them

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