Can businesses operate without managers? It's an idea Amazon, Meta and Citigroup are exploring. Evan hears from the leaders of three companies who've already tried working that way, but with varying degrees of success.

Guests:Chris May: Founder of MaydenHazel Brown: CEO of CornerstoneLuke Kyte: Operations Director of Reddico

Presenter: Evan DavisProducers: Nick Holland and Bob HowardSound: James BeardProduction Coordinator: Katie MorrisonEditor: Matt Willis