Reflecting on my experience of drawing through trauma, in this concluding dialogue I look at the various ways in which the activity of drawing initiated different kinds of looking, and how and why this might have been important. My research points towards an understanding that in some respects drawing might bring about a less literal approach to how we see the world, changing our perspective and allowing us to model another way to respond to extreme stress with positive implications for our resilience and wellbeing. This podcast series was made possible by an Arts Council England Project Award.