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Calley Means, advisor to HHS and co-author of Good Energy, joins 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on why America is the most chronically diseased society in human history and what it will take to change that.
Means, a former consultant to the food and pharmaceutical industries turned outspoken reformer, argues that the core problem is not a failure of effort but of design. He walks through the economic incentives that reward sickness over health, from insurance companies profiting off rising premiums to a pharmaceutical treadmill that manages chronic conditions rather than reversing them. He also explains why 48 cents of every federal tax dollar now goes to healthcare and why that trajectory points toward fiscal collapse.
The conversation covers the formation of the MAHA movement, the policy wins already delivered at HHS and CMS, and the case for shifting healthcare dollars toward prevention, nutrition, and patient empowerment. Means also shares the story behind the phone call he helped broker between RFK Jr. and Donald Trump in the hours after the Butler assassination attempt, and why he believes their partnership will be remembered as one of the most consequential in modern public health.
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