Welcome to Creative On Purpose Live, conversations about cultivating greater fulfillment and equanimity in endeavors that make a difference.

I’m your host, Scott Perry, author of Onward,head coach at Akimbo Workshops, and Chief Difference-Maker at Creative on Purpose. Visit CreativeOnPurpose.com to learn more and grab your copy of the burnout solution.

This episode's guest is Michael O'Brien, author of Shift. Learn more about Michael and his book here. Here are some takeaways from our chat: - forging meaning from adversity - Kitsugi - scars make us beautiful - understanding collaboration - the delusion of certainty