Welcome to Creative On Purpose Live, a show about flying higher in endeavors that make a difference. Step into possibility with integrity and intention. It’s time to be creative on purpose.

This season features the Ruckus Makers Roundtables - conversation about questions that matter.

I’m your host, Scott Perry, Chief Difference Maker at Creative on Purpose and author of Endeavor. Learn more about me and my work at CreativeOnPurpose.com.

Today I’m joined by Michael Chaffin and Amy Faeskorn to explore the question, What's the hard part about leadership? Let’s go!

Highlights from this episode: - habits serve goals - conscious vs. unconscious habits - habits as attituded and behaviors - the value of effort - less is more