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Background and context of the verses
Go through the text a piece at a time.
Questions that arise:
Practical applications
1, Why does it matter in our modern times that the Bible is trustworthy?
What do you mean by trustworthy?
What do you mean by reliable?
Is its reliability based on how we got our Bible?
How did our Bible come about?
Are the disciples trustworthy sources?
Why do some Bibles have different books?
Nature of prophecy
We have to understand that the whole idea of “prediction” is a misnomer. It’s not the best word to describe biblical prophecy.
The nature of prophecy is fluid: Jonah 3, 1 Ki. 21.28-29, 2 Kings 20, Jer. 18.1-12.
Fulfillment of Prophecy
The End Goal of Prophecy
Eschatology as Soteriology & Ecclesiology
What do we do with Deuteronomy 18.22?
The details
We have to find the core, and that’s what we can be confident about.
We see so many elements at work to breakdown American culture and also to breakdown Christianity (not that the two are synonymous).
When you take truth out of the equation, all that is left is flux.
When you take objectivity out of the equation, all that is left is power.
When you take God out of the equation, all that is left is materiality and self.
So where does our direction lie as Christians?
We must refuse to be sucked in by this mindset and worldview.
We must insist on propositional truth.
We must fight the culture wars.
We must inform each other and be informed by each other.
Is Pope Francis dead?
Is the pope an advocate for one-world government and one-world religion?
Is the pope part of a global cabal of world leaders trying to exert power around the world?
Did Pope Francis renounce his title of "Vicar of Christ"?
Is Pope Francis under the authority of the Black Pope, Arturo Sosa?
Is the upside-down cross on the pope's chair a witchcraft symbol?
Is the pope an enemy of Israel? Is the Vatican trying to get control of Jerusalem?
Is Pope Francis trying to influence American politics?
Was the papacy infected by union with Luciferians?
Is the pope involved in a Satanic pedophilia ring being operated by the him, the United Nations, governments, and various other wealthy people?
We are in civil conflict: ideologies, politics, religion, morality, sexuality and gender.
We are being set up by a powerful instigator.
What changes do we see Corona bringing to America?
What changes do we see Corona bringing to the world?
What changes do we see Corona bringing to the Church?
Jesus's declarations of deity.
The New Testament's affirmation of Jesus's deity
How the doctrine of the Trinity formed through the first several centuries.
Trinitarian heresies that grew up.
The differences between the Trinity and polytheism.
The differences between the Trinity and Hinduism.
A conversation between Esther Meek and Jim Walton discussing what it means to know God and to find truth.
An examination of Luke 21.11, Rev. 6.8 and 8.11 give us an indication that, without further information or events, we should not consider the Corona Virus outbreak a sign of the End Times. In the prophecies, "plague" is part of a cluster of events happening, and those other events are not present. For now, I would regard the Corona Virus as just a terrible outbreak, not particularly as a sign of the End. But we're always on the alert and paying attention to watch how events evolve and to see what else is going on.
We don’t have enough information on Jesus’s fiscal commentary to make that decision. Jesus spoke against greed and He spoke for generosity. He agreed we should pay taxes. It's not wealth that is evil, but rather what our attitude towards it is. What matters is how we got it, how we treat it, and what we do with it.
Jesus had a reasonable amount of things to say about our attitudes and accumulation of money, but he had nothing to say about economic systems. He was neither an advocate of capitalism or socialism. In other words, Jesus never tried to define the shape of society; he never advocated for a certain sort of economy. Instead he told us what people should be like whatever system they’re in. So please don’t lasso Jesus to drag him into your camp to endorse your way of thinking. You have your opinion, and that’s fine, but let Jesus’s teaching speak for itself.
The film poses itself as economic and social commentary. It's about human nature and the American Dream (How can I get more money than I have? How can I not lose what I gain?).
I would summarize the film with this sentence: "The only person who matters is me." It's a failed worldview for three reasons:
Yes. We Christians think, evaluate, explore, do science, weigh data, ask questions, wonder, search, doubt, and learn.
There is truth all around us. We find truth in almost every corner. Learning is a wonderful thing. It's never a sin to think, to ask questions, to search, to doubt, to wonder, or to learn.
I mention a few verses as samples that show us using our minds is biblical.
Matt. 22.37: "Jesus replied: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' " I show my love for God by using my mind. Lack of curiosity is a sin. Studying science is one of the ways we can love God with all our minds.
Luke 1.3: "I have carefully investigated all things from the beginning." The text is affirming research, critical thinking, data, and conclusions.
Luke 24.45: "Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures." God wants us to understand, to have open minds to learn, digest, form new thoughts, and take us deeper in knowledge.
Romans 12.2: "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind." It's our responsibility to be good thinkers. Notice in this verse that Paul’s appeal here is to the mind and the will, the body and the spirit, just like Jesus when He says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength." All that we are is to be offered to God as useful.
1 Peter 1.13: "Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming." Christians should never be content with a flabby and unexamined faith. You must think things out and think them through.
Acts 17.11: "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." Use your brain! Check things out. Evaluate, research, confirm or disapprove. The Bible calls this being "noble."
Isaiah 1 (17, 21, 23) tells us that where worship of the true God falters, justice fails. We are seeing this in America with all the non-stop machinations of the Department of Justice.
Isaiah 3.4 tells us that where worship of the true God, falters, the result is that the nation will be run by children. We are seeing this in America with proud, petty, and partisan leaders who are like 3rd graders calling each other names, bullying each other, and lying about it all.
Isaiah 5 tells us that a nation that has been given every blessing and advance, but spoils it though immorality as a people and corruption in government is going to see demise as a nation.
We live in a time of continuing political chaos. We need to be able to find a place of peace in the middle of it. I give some suggestions to give help for life.
I give 3 helps for life.
What the Old Testament says:
What the New Testament says:
Theological perspectives:
We discuss four questions:
What is theology?
Why is theology important?
The church's role in teaching theology
One's individual responsibilities and the parents' role in teaching theology
A conversation with Kim Fletcher, President and Founder of "Moms For America," a national movement of mothers to reclaim our culture for truth, family, and freedom.
Beth Nimmo is the mother of Rachel Joy Scott, the first student shot and killed at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999.
I'm not trashing public schools. We sent our 3 children to public schools, and they did very well. But public school can be a rough place for Christian kids.
Whoever controls the terminology of a culture controls the narrative. Whoever controls the narrative controls the ideology. Therefore, the words we use determines the thoughts we think. Words are powerful weapons; they dictate and redesign societies. Words can create reality.
Here is what we see happening:
Here's what to do about it:
Despite what it sounds like the Bible says, there was no chattel slavery in ancient Israel.
a. Matthew 24: it’s an opportunity to live a strong testimony (24.14) also 1 Peter. 1.7.
b. 1 Thes. 4.18: Comfort one another
c. Book of Revelation wasn’t written to scare us, but rather to help us understand what God is doing. 3. They need to be grounded in the Word (Mt. 24.4: Watch that no one deceives you). Not just specifically eschatological passages, but the whole Word of God. The better they know the Word, the more ready they will be for all that lies ahead. 4. They need to know that success by evil people doesn’t mean God isn’t there (Mt. 24.9-11; Hab. 1). 5. Therefore, it’s a time to show confidence, not fear. We know what’s going on, we know where this is headed. We need to instill in our children confidence and trust, not fear. Be careful not to communicate fear. 6. Teach your kids to be human. In days like this, too many people turn barbaric. They turn to violence, greed, and self-centeredness. It’s all about “me.” Teach your children to be human: compassion for others, kindness, not bullying, not violent. 7. Teach your kids to be helpers. There’s that saying by Fred Rogers (“Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood”): “When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.” 8. Teach your kids to be good and faithful servants of God, no matter what. Instill in them a biblical worldview. 9. Don’t believe everything you see on your technology. Talk to your parents about it. 10. Talk at the dinner table about what’s going on in the world. 11. Discussions about politics and political figures are out of place at the grade school lunch table and in back yards between children. Children are almost always just parroting things they have heard adults say, and they generally know very little about these matters. Teach your children to stay quiet if the conversation at the school lunch table turns to politics. So also Middle School. High school is a different matter. If your child is informed, he or she should be able to take a position and justify it. In that case, make sure your kid knows what they are talking about if they’re going to discuss it.
In this podcast I speak briefly about the historical accuracy of the biblical text as corroborated by other records, whether the Bible makes sense of the data at hand, and whether the study of the Bible proves to be valuable for life.
Historical accuracy: historical documents, archaeological artifacts, linguistics, and form criticism all support the reliability of the biblical text.
Whether the Bible makes sense of the data at hand. Continuing archaeological discoveries are verifying that the Bible makes sense of the data at hand rather than showing us a picture out in left field.
The Bible proves to be valuable for life: (1) If everyone lived this way (Christianity), it would be of benefit; (2) The Bible has the power to change lives; (3) God really does reveal himself as we read.
An Interview with Dick Loizeaux, church consultant, talking about the signs of a healthy church: justification by faith and social justice
An Interview with Dick Loizeaux, church consultant, talking about the 5th of 8 elements that cause a church to fail.
Element #5: A successful church has to have an effective governing structure.
Qualities of an effective pastor: shepherd, teacher, leader
Qualities of an effective board
A. character
B. Chemistry
C. Competence
D. Culture 4. adequate training
An Interview with Dick Loizeaux, church consultant, talking about the first 2 of 8 elements that cause a church to fail.
Here Dick speaks about a church that fails to have meaningful small groups
An Interview with Dick Loizeaux, church consultant, talking about the first 2 of 8 elements that cause a church to fail.
Here Dick speaks about a church that fails to have a clear mission, vision, and core values.
An Interview with Dick Loizeaux, church consultant, talking about the first 2 of 8 elements that cause a church to fail.
Here Dick speaks about unwillingness to embrace change, and an inward focus.
An interview with church consultant Dick Loizeaux about church leadership and management.
The eight reasons churches struggle.
Functional Structure.
Pastor as a team builder.
Role of elders and pastors.
Strategies for discipling and mentoring our own children to become fully devoted disciples of Christ. Radio show on WDCX, Buffalo, on Linda Penn's radio show "Today's Living Hope."
We can no longer be casual about discipling our children. The culture is thoroughly secular.
Parents need both character and content. It's not just a strategy, but who you are as well as what you do.
Deuteronomy 6 is our model.
Interview of two middle school students about Christianity in middle school.
How many of your friends are Christians?
Do the kids at school know you are Christians?
Is there much bullying?
Do the kids treat you any differently because of that?
Do they make fun of you because you're a Christian?
How do you show your Christianity?
Where did you learn what you know about God and the Bible?
Why do you wish more of your friends came to youth group?
Interview with Sergeant Matt Evans, a detective with 20 years experience in police patrol and being a detective.
The conflicts of being a policeman and a Christian.
Dealing with criticism, violence, and fear.
How faith makes a difference
An interview with Rebecca Evans, children's book illustrator and writer.
Hard work, paying attention to the environment, adapting with the changes, and walking carefully in an angry and intolerant world. These are the challenges of living as a faithful Christian in our culture.
An interview with Linda Penn, a leader of women's ministry on church staff for four decades. We talk about church, discipleship, evangelism, spiritual gifts, and women's ministry.
Free will is a necessary part of humanity and life. Determinism (fate) is self-defeating.
This is a recording of a seminar I taught at the Iron Sharpens Iron Conference in Rochester NY, in November, 2018. I spoke on "What You Need to Know." With Christianity under increasing attack in America, it becomes more critical all the time that we know the truth about it and how to talk about it. In this seminar we will examine the defense of our belief to assure you that we stand on solid ground. These are the questions the culture is asking, and these are the reasons so many people are falling away from the faith. There is never cause to desert or doubt Christianity. There is solid research and good evidence for what we believe. You need to know what it is, not only so that you don’t drift away, but also so that you can help others.
An interview with Adam Walton, who has a congenital heart defect, about his perceptions of God and suffering.
An interview with Bob Walton, church historian, about the early era of the church, the Church Fathers in particular.
How reliable are the Church Fathers?
The church fathers and the authorship of the Gospels
Were there power plays to eliminate contrary opinions?
Early records of Jesus
Were the apostles really martyred for their faith?
Conspiracy theory
The question is "Why is the God of the Old Testament so violent when Jesus in the New Testament is so peaceful?" First of all, the question reveals a fundamental misunderstanding. God in the Old Testament is full of love and peace, but he has to judge evil. God in the New Testament is no different.
The Old Testament is the story of a nation; the New Testament is the story of a person. There are different things going on. Violence is a normal part of a sinful world and will never go away. Sometimes the only way to not let violence take control is to meet it with a "bigger sword." As long as the use of force (1) has a legitimate basis, (2) has a moral end, and (3) has a justifiable means, a qualified use of force is not only necessary but justifiable.
Atheism requires more faith than Christianity because there are fewer evidences for atheism than there are for theism.
Atheists have bigger gaps in knowledge than theists do, they make more leaps of faith, and take stock in less-well-supported positions.
In this podcast I talk about what faith really is. Biblical faith is always based in evidence. It is making an assumption of truth based on enough evidence to make that assumption reasonable. God always gave evidence to people before He expected them to believe. John 17.8; 14.11, and Hebrews 11.1 all define faith as being based in evidences. There is nothing in faith that is blind, contrary to reason, or lacking evidence.
In this episode I share what it means that God is omnipotent, or all-powerful.
Omnipotence doesn't mean that God can do anything and everything and that there are no limits to what God can do, but rather that He can do whatever is maximally consistent. What omnipotence means is that God is able to do anything that is a proper object of his power. The omnipotence of God is all-sufficient power. He can never be overwhelmed, exhausted, or contained. He is able to overcome apparently insurmountable problems. He has complete power over nature, though often he lets nature take its course, because that’s what He created it to do. He has power over the course of history, though he chooses to use that power only as he wills. He has the power to change human personality, but only as individuals allow, since He cannot interfere with the freedom of man. He has the power to conquer death and sin, and to save a human soul for eternity. He has power over the spiritual realm.
There are things, however, that God cannot do.
Omnipotence means that God has all-sufficient power to do whatever He sets out to do.
Therefore God is the source of the universe, and he is uncreated. In other words, God is self-existent and has always existed. He didn't have an origin.
Making sense out of the Trinity. We don't just have to blindly accept it by faith, we can explaining it using reason.
The Trinity is hinted at in the Old Testament.
Jesus teaches the Trinity.
Paul teaches the Trinity.
It is often accused by detractors that God doesn’t really answer prayer, but that Christians are guilty of confirmation bias. It’s the tendency to see what we want to see and expect to see, to say that certain circumstances are answers to prayer because I believe they are. When I expect to get an answer to prayer, I will find some event that fits my expectations, and then claim that it happened.
I claim this accusation is not only untrue but also impossible.
Therefore any accusation of confirmation bias is illegitimately. Prayer can not be measured in that way.
I'm talking about what prayer is really about. Its primary purpose is not to ask for things, but to have a love relationship.
If God were to answer our prayers at a greater rate than average, we would easily become power crazed and corrupted.
If God were to answer our prayers at a lesser rate than average, we would consider him to be cruel.
If God were to answer our prayers at average, where we couldn't tell if the prayer ever got answered or not, we would think God didn't care and prayer was worthless.
Instead, prayer is not primarily about getting stuff, but rather about the relationship. From the Bible I have learned at least three things about prayer:
Prayer is mostly seeking the pleasure of God's company, not asking for things. He's my God, not Santa Claus. My circumstantial life may not be significantly different from anyone else's, but my inner life is a new creation. I have to learn to to see the hand of God around me. It's a learning process.
If God really wants us to know Him, why doesn’t He appear to all of us and speak to all of us?
A direct experience with God is no guarantee of a loving relationship with him, or being convinced to walk in his ways. Satan and demons are glaring examples.
Seeing spectacular miracles are no guarantee that a person will follow God. The Israelites of the Exodus and the people who knew Jesus are glaring examples.
A direct experience of God is not what turns the soul towards belief.
Among all the religions on earth, why do we think Christianity (and none other) is true? How do we know Christianity is true?
Wasn’t God being unfair to harden Pharaoh’s heart and then punish him for it?
No. First of all, the text is clear that Pharaoh's hardened his own heart long before it says anything about God hardening it. In other words, God is not doing anything actively or unfairly, but merely letting Pharaoh pursue the course Pharaoh had already committed himself to pursue.
Secondly, in Egyptian theology, a hard heart was a heavy heart. The language could be indicating Pharaoh's guilt, not God's unfairness.
Third, in Egyptian literature, a hard heart was one that was decisive. It's possible that God was letting Pharaoh decide his own course.
Any of these could be true, and possibly more than one, but the one that is definitely wrong is the way most people read it—that God is forcing Pharaoh to do things the king doesn't want to do, and then God blames Pharaoh for what God made him do in the first place and then punishes him for it. That’s the one that’s untrue.
Some people accuse that if Jesus didn't really stay dead it wasn't really a sacrifice—that if He knew He was going to rise again, there was nothing sacrificial about His death.
"Sacrifice" in the Old Testament was a covering, not a deprivation. It's not about loss, but rather about atonement. Jesus's sacrifice was that of standing in our place so our sins would be covered. So it was still a legitimate sacrifice.
Second, it's a matter of satisfying legal requirements and balancing the books, so to speak. The issue isn't loss but fulfillment.
Third, the Bible accepts the idea of substitutionary atonement: one for many. Since His death accomplished that, it was a legitimate sacrifice.
Is God egotistical when He demands our worship? What is worship, and why does God both demand it and/or deserve it?
Worship is recognizing and rehearsing all of who God is, and giving all of myself to Him. Therefore He deserves our worship because of Who He is, and also because of what He does.
God demands our worship because he is truly worthy of it.
Could Jesus have given in to temptation? If so, they he could have sinned. If not, then how was he really human?
1 Peter 2.21-22 says Jesus could not have sinned.
Hebrews 4.15 says Jesus was tempted in every way as we are.
Temptation had the same dynamic for Jesus as it does for us, and therefore he was tempted as we are even he could not have sinned.
A conversation with Dr. Ami Alderman about public education, common core, and technology.
Bias may be inevitable, but it's not necessarily negative. We all have our cultural and personal contexts and filters, but that doesn't necessarily mean our information is distorted or skewed. The question of the day is, "Are the Gospels biased?"
Bias is inevitable. We cannot help but look at a situation through our own eyes.
Bias is not always negative, but instead can give a unique perspective.
As far as the Gospels is concerned, their bias gave them a reporting advantage, similar to a Jewish person speaking about the Holocaust or an African American talking about antebellum slavery.
Bias can be advantageous.