In this episode, I am joined by Ben Curtis, the Street Minister for Operation Nightwatch in Seattle. I got to know Ben when he took me out on the streets late one night to spend some time among people sleeping outside. Ben has years of experience working with the homeless population and some great insight into how we engage one another. Our conversation is centered around the homeless but we talk about listening and how to be present, both skills that are helpful for all relationships no matter where we are. If you want to learn more about Operation Nightwatch and Ben, check out https://www.seattlenightwatch.org. Enjoy!