In honor of Juneteenth, we listen back to two conversations filled with humor and joy today. We spoke to poet and writer Nikki Giovanni in 2014 when her book ‘Chasing Utopia’ came out. And in the summer of 2020, in the beginning of the pandemic, and the middle of the racial justice uprising, we spoke to three local Black comedians about how writing jokes can be a way to process traumatic events, challenge social norms, and build community through laughter. We hear from comedians Christian Burke and Dahlia Belle, and Dirty Angel Entertainment executive producer Courtenay Collins.