Fresh from his review of OS X Yosemite, John Siracusa returns to talk interface, vibrancy, file extensions, and a whole lot of Swift.

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Show notes * Siracusa's Yosemite review * Siracusa on Debug, round 1

Guests * John Siracusa of Hypercritical and ATP

Hosts * Guy English of Kicking Bear * Rene Ritchie of Mobile Nations

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