ORLY-EP0145A - When to fight, when to run Welcome to ORLYRADIO #145 recorded Friday February 24th, 2017 - where we dismantle the current events for your edutainment through mostly rational conversations that make you go ‘Oh Really’! I’m your host Andy Cowen, with my usual suspects, Stephen Griffith, Amber Biesecker, Fred Sims, Daniel Atherton, and JP.

Audience Feedback From Previous Shows: From listener Kristen R.

Hello. I liked the discussion that went on in this episode and wanted to contribute with two questions.

The first question is: When is violence the appropriate answer?

Every time I ask this question, people immediately snap back with "Violence is NEVER the answer! NEVER!!!" I feel that this is a short sighted answer with no thought or consideration put into it.

How bad would things have to get before violence becomes the appropriate answer? What kind of events or situations would that look like which would warrant a violent response?

My second question is: When is it time to flee the country? How bad would things have to get before the decision to flee becomes essential? What would have to happen that would cause you to start packing up and flee right now?

(for me personally, it would be the beginning construction of a US/Canada border wall and/or the sanctioned arrests of LGBT people, the community which I belong to)

I'm sorry to do this, but I must invoke Godwin's Law of citing Nazi Germany. Our country has some initial parallels of how things became bad there and how things are becoming bad here. I'm curious if the German citizens of that time had similar discussions. How bad would things have to get before they fled or became violent?

Personally, several friends, acquaintances, and I of the LGBT community have been making plans to flee just in case. We're gathering supplies, planning our routes, amassing arms and ammunition for hunting/self defense, and building our long term bug-out bags.

Each person has specialist roles that will help the group as a whole. We currently have a carpentry & construction person, a medical first aid person, a radio & electronics person, a hunter/trapper/fisherman person, an herbalist plant person, a defense/offense person, and several general labor people.

Hopefully we won't need it, but it's better to have and not need rather than to need and not have. We're watching the news closely for if and when we need to go.

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