In this episode we share how we knew we wanted out of the traditional academic path, and the tools we collected along the way that have helped us build our businesses.

Sara talks about going where the energy is in her work, and Katie shares about using multi-year planning strategies. We discussed going where the energy is, and working collaboratively to create cool things. We talked about differences in establishing credibility in the academic versus the internet environments. We talked about sharing and collaborating on the internet beginning to break down some traditional academic silos. Sometimes a PhD is about collecting tools for your toolbox. So what do you want to get out of this time in your professional career?

We answer:

  • How did we know we didn’t want to go the traditional tenure track academic role?
  • Was the path forward always clear, and how much did we make it up as we went along?
  • How do we “go where the creative energy is”?

We asked listeners: * What do you want to get out of this time in whatever place you are professionally? * How do you “go where the energy is”?

Recommended Resources for this Episode: * Jen Polk – From PhD to Life.com – (@FromPhDtoLife) Great thought leader and coach form PhDs considering careers outside of traditional academic roles. * Beyond the Professoriate – Online conference about jobs beyond traditional academic roles. * Self-Employed PhD – This online community of other Self-Employed PhDs providing support and ideas to one another. * Book Yourself Solid – Michael Port – How to secure the clients you want and not the ones you don’t and being highly sought after. * Michael Port’s book on public speaking Steal the Show

Links to things we referenced during the podcast: * Michael Port’s podcast on public speaking

Next time on Make Your Way: We discuss the conundrum of deciding when to leave the full time job, and the balancing act of full time and side hustles. Find Sara at @DrLangworthy and Katie at @Katie__Linder.

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