The Inner Work Nobody Talks About

In this episode with Rashmir Balasubramaniam of https://rashmir.net/ we discuss what it actually takes to move from where most leaders are operating right now toward something genuinely different. And why the answer is not a strategy, a method, or a roadmap. Rashmir introduces a parallel framework for understanding how we relate to the world, from feeling like a victim of circumstances all the way through to allowing life to flow through us. And she makes the case that the inner work of leadership is not a detour from the work of change. It IS the work.

The key highlights are:

• A four-level framework for how we relate to the world — from the world happening to us, through for us, as us, and ultimately through us — and why most leaders are operating far below their actual capacity
• Why you can only meet people where they are and how working with the potential someone can already see, rather than the potential you can see for them, is what makes change sustainable
• Why global development work has lost the development piece and what it costs us when we focus so relentlessly on outcomes that we stop developing the people inside the systems we're trying to shift

Links and notes for show:

• Peter Sage
• Carol Sanford

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