In the first episode, host Charlene Norman of Good Stewardship; Lasting Impact took a brutally honest look at the in between stage we are all living through -- the messy middle. In this episode, she begins sharing the thoughts of Ernesto van Peborgh founder of the Seva Institute and prolific writer on Substack as a case study we can all learn from.

Key observations we can make

-Recognize the Hollowing of Success

-Understand the True Cost of Power

-Embrace the Descent: Leaving the Comfort Zone

-Move Beyond Material Divestment to Existential Investment

-Accept That the Journey Is Ongoing (and Messy)

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