In this episode of Thriving in Complexity, Susanne Le Boutillier talks to Viv Read about the importance of using complexity-based tools and methods in organisations. As the Director of Complexability Pty Ltd, a company that specialises in enabling collaborative projects with other independent consultants working in the field of complexity, Viv shares practical tips on how to effectively manage complex projects informed by her many years of experience in the field. Viv highlights that complexity-based tools help organisations build resilience and capability by learning through doing and shifting power and responsibility away from external consultants into the organisation. She emphasises that knowing where an organisation doesn't want to be is just as important as knowing where they want to head, and having boundaries and flexibility is critical. If you are a senior business leader who is struggling with the complexity of the ever-changing context around you, or looking for answers on how to tackle complex situations, this episode is for you. Tune in and learn how to use complexity-based tools and methods to effectively manage projects and create successful outcomes. WHAT YOU’LL DISCOVER IN THIS EPISODE: * What are the complexity-based tools and methods (04:49) * Why should organizations use complexity-based tools and methods? (07:08) * The importance of knowing what you don’t want (10:00) * What does the term “safe to fail” mean? (13:33) * Working in complexity vs. pivoting in response to change (16:20) * How a narrative-based research method can help decision-makers (23:25) * What is the Meals on Wheels research project all about (32:19) * How to integrate indigenous thinkers and speakers into the network (38:03) * Common mistakes that organisations make when working in complexity (42:59) * The difference between complexity academics and practitioners (49:43) * Vivienne’s advice to her 25-year-old self (55:26) * One thing Vivienne wants other people to remember (59:38)

Quotes "It's just as important to know where you don't want to be as where you do." -Vivienne Read “What working with complexity does is help people build resilience and capacity by learning by doing.” -Vivienne Read " Focusing on what's next, doesn't mean that you don't have a sense of where you want to head." -Susanne Le Boutillier Resources Pam Health Foundation Meals on WheelsWHERE TO FIND VIVIENNE READ * LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/viv-read-a06390 * Website: www.complexability.com.au

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