When I hear something that's obviously racist, it's always a joke. They get to the punchline. I don't laugh— I never do. That usually bursts the bubble. And I'll tell you why I think it's so important to burst the bubble: When a racist joke doesn't get a laugh, everyone wakes up to the fact that racism with a great punchline is still just racism.

Listen in and let's unpack this.

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