Our friend and Wayfinders’ teammate Matt Curts joins us to talk about how we began this journey together of intentional, relationship discipleship and what it means to be a disciple of Jesus in the everyday - how he came to truly know Jesus, not just about him; what he’s learned from his friend Victor John in India about discipling in the everyday; and how the illusion of secular vs. sacred spaces can create barriers in our own discipleship and to authentically loving others in the way of Jesus.