The Upper Bench 024: Bryon MacWilliams joins us to discuss the Russian banya and his book With Light Steam.https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9780875807089/with-light-steam/bryonmac@gmail.comHosts Eero Kilpi (North American Sauna Society), Sam Wacha (Saunner), Christopher (Risto) Rice (Sauna Digest)Theme Music: Conga Se Menne "Guess Who's Coming to Sauna"TIMESTAMPS(00:00:00) Introduction(00:02:13) The story behind Bryon's book on banya(00:12:50) What is a banya? Where did it come from? (00:21:20) Russian banya stoves and "light steam"(00:30:17) Steam in the Finnish savusauna(00:34:15) Making good steam at home(00:38:30) Differences in banya structures(00:39:16) Ventilation(00:44:55) Essential oils and scents(00:59:23) Future topics for discussion(01:01:56) Bryon's Saturday steams