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The Swiss banker that Monaeco64 had the discussion about CBDC was Clive Thompson:

Here is the two part podcast by Monaeco64:

https://youtu.be/L9aye4wQ8Ok

https://youtu.be/2hGxbSYQzlE

I first watch this one. Very long but very interesting theories of how governments can make the switch:

The Market Sniper

https://youtu.be/EtsxAgN9x-k

Alternative channel https://vigilante.tv/c/doug_caseys_take/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpiKce9fkJU