In this episode, Jenny and Jordan Hall discuss their experiences and systemic perspectives as parents in modern society.

This conversation covers:

• Unraveling the meaningfulness of becoming a parent [3:01]
• Exploring interrelationships between parents, kids, extended family, and community [7:15]
• "Stewarding the soul of another human being" [9:55]
• Some historical and cultural contexts of parenting today (Game A) [11:55]
• Riane Eisler's work on Partnerism [22:23]
• Elaborating the concept of Game A parenting [24:33]
• How preschools can help us be better parents [35:24]
• Exploring the ideals and constraints of Game B parenting [36:47]
• Finding the right relationship between parenting and professional identities [56:00]
• Prioritizing both parents in the next wave of feminism [58:37]
• Framing a design question for evolving the interconnected systems of parenting [1:04:24]