Join us as we talk with Dr. Mkhitarian, a clinical psychologist in the VA system who utilizes art therapy to assist with healing from trauma. She is well-versed in severe mental illness, somatic work, and even different forms of soup. Tap in for a very intelligent discussion and practical tips for current therapists. 

The beat for this episode was produced by Taymadethewave, the episode was recorded and edited by Dr. Michael Norfleet and Cathleen Madlansacay.