Dr William DeJean, founder/CEO of educational consultancy, Unleash Learning, aims to create "embedded, systematic, long-lasting change" in schools so learning sticks. He explains how OOF teachers feature in that. Dr DeJean has lectured at universities, and worked with schools in the USA (in his then home-state of California) and Australia - with each school, he has a three-year process to embed a teaching-and-learning system throughout the school. As well, formerly as a high school teacher,  he was named teacher of the year among 26,000 teachers in San Diego County.

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