In this episode, your host Curtis James reflects on his journey from a less than ideal background to making this podcast. As he shares his personal experience, we'll hear from individuals who discovered the transformative power of education later in life, and the incredible opportunities it can bring. We'll also follow up with Carlie and her brothers, as they reveal the paths their lives have taken since their vastly different school experiences.

Episode 5 is out on Wednesday 3rd May 2023.