"It becomes really interesting to reassess how risk works and what the potential upsides and downsides are."

The growth curve for tech companies is fraught with risk. Knowing when to gamble - and not be bound by conventional thinking - can make all the difference.

Sanjay Lobo MBE joins Debbie Forster MBE for a fascinating conversation around risk-taking, doing good in business, and much more. From media law to launching the volunteering platform OnHand, he brings some sparkling insights on when not to take the safe option.