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Joel Jessup and Chris Regan

Writers Joel Jessup and Chris Regan reimagine cult and classic movies by adding John Carpenter's The Thing into the story. Not even the two hosts understand why they are doing this but they'll figure it out, one movie at a time.

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This episode on Just The Thing, we’re jacking in and glitching out as the Antarctic shapeshifter meets David Cronenberg’s fleshy virtual reality fever dream, eXistenZ. Joined by returning guest Dr. Geraint D’Arcy, Associate Professor and Head of Media at the University of East Anglia (who also helped us put The Thing into Slipstream, link below), we dive deep into questions of identity, simulation, and what happens when The Thing enters a world that’s already mutating.

It’s parasites vs players, bodies vs bioports, and reality itself might not make it out alive.

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This week on Just The Thing, we’re doing something a little different. To give you a taste of what goes on over at our Patreon, we’re sharing one of our exclusive bonus episodes right here on the main feed.

Join us as we dive into Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning, unpacking the stunts, the twists, and whether Tom Cruise has finally out-run the laws of physics. Obviously, we'll also put the creature from The Thing in there somewhere. If you want more like this, you’ll need to head to our Patreon, where a new bonus episode drops every month.

Think of it as your mission… should you choose to accept it.

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Just The Thing is back from a summer break, and we’re kicking things off with a horde! This week, the Antarctic nightmare takes on the hammer-swinging, parasite-jawed zombies of Resident Evil: Afterlife. Can a creature that thrives on stealth and imitation survive against enemies who are already dead? We break down viral logic, video game adaptations, and why Chris believes this is the greatest zombie movie of all time.

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In a bold detour from our classic creature-feature clashes, this episode of Just The Thing crashes John Carpenter’s icy existential dread into the warm, irony-soaked glow of Wayne’s World. Can a postmodern comedy duo rooted in parody and pop culture survive a deadly force that thrives on isolation and imitation? We dig into the genre dissonance, ask whether you can have too many pop culture references and deep dive into the careers of Mike Myers, Dana Carvey and director Penelope Spheeris. It’s horror vs hangout, tension vs tone, dread vs dudes, and—somehow—it kind of works. Excellent!!!

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This week, Just The Thing takes on its most superpowered challenge yet: what happens when the ultimate shapeshifter faces the Man of Steel? Joined by book designer and comics connoisseur Chris Gould, Joel and Chris dive into James Gunn’s Superman (2025).

They dissect the film’s overt politics, its gloriously goofy comic-book logic, and why this version of Superman, with all his gentleness, feels genuinely radical in 2025. There's praise for David Corenswet’s performance, a lot of love for Krypto, and a deeply serious discussion about whether Batman is a workaholic.

And yes, they do actually consider whether The Thing could assimilate Superman.

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This episode on Just The Thing, Joel and Chris are joined by returning guests Alex Jessep and Matt O'Dwyer for a cosmic clash for the ages as the perfect organism takes on the perfect imitator. Ridley Scott’s iconic Xenomorph goes acid-blood-to-tentacle with the Antarctic horror from The Thing. We take the first film as our starting point and then discuss the wider Alien universe before putting the iconic xenomorph in the ring with The Thing.

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In the brand new series of Just The Thing, writers Joel Jessup and Chris Regan will be pitting the terrifying, shape-shifting alien from John Carpenter’s The Thing against iconic monsters and movie characters from cinema history. Each episode explores a new hypothetical horror showdown—debating lore, abilities, weaknesses, and who’s most likely to survive.

We’re kicking things off with perhaps the most famous monster of all time, Count Dracula. We painstakingly reviewed every movie iteration of the legendary vampire and decided only one could possibly take on our favourite Antarctic nightmare. Yes, it's obviously Gerard Butler’s emo Dracula from Dracula 2000. Can an ancient vampire lord outwit a creature that could be anyone? Will The Thing assimilate the Prince of Darkness, and what would that mean for the rest of us? Also, was the turn of the millennium the greatest time to be alive, or did it mostly feel like you were permanently stuck inside a Virgin Megastore playing nu-metal on an endless loop? Check out the episode to find out!

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In the last of our bonus episodes before we get stuck into a whole new season, Joel and Chris imagine what happens when a shape-shifting alien crashes the most secretive election in the world. That’s right—we’re putting The Thing into Conclave, the tense political thriller about the inner workings of a Vatican papal election.

As Ralph Fiennes navigates political intrigue and whispered secrets in the Sistine Chapel, we ask: what if one of the cardinals wasn’t just hiding a scandal—but a parasitic alien alter-ego?

Join us for theological musings, ecclesiastical paranoia, and perfectly respectful Pope vs Thing chat.

Disclaimer: In case it seems weird that we don't mentioned it, we recorded this on 2nd April, before the death of Pope Francis and the subsequent actual conclave.

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In this bonus episode of Just The Thing, Joel Jessup and Chris Regan dive deep into Karyn Kusama’s slow-burn psychological horror The Invitation. Join us for a lively chat about super fun subjects like grief, cults, and social discomfort. We ask the question, when would you leave the death cult party? And does the film’s quiet dread and social awkwardness make it more terrifying than The Thing itself?

We also explore what happens when John Carpenter’s The Thing crashes the dinner party, comparing thematic overlaps and wondering whether Logan Marshall-Green’s Will is a low-key MacReady cosplay.

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In the Just The Thing 2024 Christmas Special, Joel and Chris are joined by Matt O'Dwyer and Peter Regan as they attempt to unwrap Tim Burton's Batman Returns and imagine what might happen if the shapeshifting creature from John Carpenter's The Thing crashed Gotham's most chaotic Christmas party.

Join us as we revisit this wildly dark "kids' movie" from the '90s, marvel at Danny DeVito's grotesque and tragic Penguin, and applaud Michelle Pfeiffer's iconic transformation into Catwoman. We also explore how Batman himself gets overshadowed in his own movie by the film's incredible villains. Did we mention that Christopher Walken is also in this movie?

Stay tuned for a Batman-themed Christmas quiz towards the end of the episode!

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Joel and Chris are joined by Geraint D'Arcy, Associate Professor and Head of Media at UEA, where the three originally met as students in the late 90s. Geraint was also the star of Chris and Joel's short film, Bad Day, often referenced on the podcast. Together, they try to understand the 1989 sci-fi film, Slipstream, starring Bob Peck, Mark Hamill and Bill Paxton. Slipstream was a prestigious and much-hyped project, from the producer of Star Wars, Gary Kurtz, and the director of Tron, Steven Lisberger. With so much talent behind and in front of the camera, why is the film so incoherent? Help is at hand via a special appearance from actor Paul Reynolds, who shares his recollection of what it was like to actually work on Slipstream. Finally, Joel, Chris and Geraint attempt to answer the ultimate question - would Slipstream be better with The Thing in it?

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It's a Just The Thing first as Joel and Chris finally welcome a guest who actually worked on the film they're talking about: John Jessup, Joel's father!
For most of his life John has been an award-winning advertising creative, but when he was younger he worked at the legendary Pinewood Studios and has lots of fascinating stories to tell! And then we put The Thing in The Devils!
If you like hearing exclusive insights into Ken Russell, Oliver Reed and Derek Jarman, plus many others, this is the episode for you!

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Joel and Chris try to decipher Richard Kelly's 2006 puzzle of a film the only way they know how... by adding the creature from The Thing. Will the addition of a shapeshifting, parasitic alien help to make sense of this sprawling, apocalyptic satire? Listen to the episode to find out, just be warned you will be subjected to some ex-film student bitterness along the way.

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Joel and Chris put The Thing into The Last Jedi.

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Joel and Chris are joined by author and folk horror enthusiast Kit Whitfield to put The Thing into the 1999 found footage movie, The Blair Witch Project.

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Season 4 of Just The Thing begins, and Joel and Chris try to fix the 2023 Haunted Mansion by putting John Carpenter's The Thing into it!
The Haunted Mansion is a well-loved theme park ride, but why is it so difficult to turn into a movie? The answer may shock you! Or seem blindingly obvious. We talk about haunted houses, ghost logic, and how best to use a Danny DeVito in your film.
PLUS: Chris questions the ability of a very famous well-regarded actor and then Joel pitches the worst sitcom idea ever.
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A quick catch-up episode to let you know that Just The Thing will be returning for Season 4 on Tuesday 6th August.

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Chris and Joel wrap up their Kurt Russell season by putting The Thing into Escape from L.A.

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Joel and Chris are joined by filmmaker Ross Boyask (I Am Vengeance: Retaliation) to help put The Thing into the Fast and Furious universe.
Why did they come in at number 7? Family. And because it's the first one Kurt Russell is in! But they dip into the whole franchise and come to some amazing, baffling conclusions!
Joel compares the franchise to My Little Pony. Chris explains why he forced all his friends to see a film he was pretending to love and ended up loving it anyway. Ross questions Deckard Shaw's healthcare related decisions.
And can Chris and Ross correctly guess the real Dominic Toretto lines?
Ross Boyask's films I Am Vengeance and I Am Vengeance: Retaliation are available to rent on all major platforms.

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Joel and Chris continue their Kurt Russell season by putting the creature from John Carpenter's The Thing into the 1993 western, Tombstone!
Is this a revisionist or reconstructionist Western? Why does it have such an amazing cast list? Who has the only fake moustache in the movie? Two of those questions will be answered!
Joel tries to grow a moustache live on air, Chris suffers from Billy Zane Anticipation Syndrome, and they have a lot of trouble getting The Thing into the film but manage to discuss an almost forgotten Daniel Craig classic...
AND there's a quiz!

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Joel and Chris have brought the brilliant Andrea Regan back to discuss the other film that Kurt Russell said every boat owner has on VHS: Overboard! And put The Thing into it.
Cult misstep? Weird classic? Problematic flop? We throw this film into the water of discussion and see if it ends up with amnesia and will look after our kids.
Joel loves Dr Norman Korman. Chris never believes fake movie photos. And Andrea analyses why this was once one of her favourite films!

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Joel and Chris are back and it's time to talk about one of the two films that Kurt Russell said every boat owner has on VHS: Captain Ron! And put The Thing into it.
Cult classic? Weird misstep? Secret early version of Fight Club? We dive deep into the film and maybe don't come back up for air.
Joel has a new name for the Horror genre you're going to love. Chris finds the first 5 minutes of the film more personally upsetting than most of the horror we've watched. And do you want to know how this film connects with The Simpsons, Mary Poppins and Stephen King's It? Then listen to the show!

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Joel and Chris invite regular guests Alex and Matt to their 2023 Christmas special, and because it's Kurt Russell season they're all going to watch The Christmas Chronicles and put The Thing in there!

Joel realises Die Hard and Home Alone are the same, Chris reveals what heartwarming Christmas musical gave him nightmares, Alex has kindly done some actual research, and Matt is astonished that a famously loud and bearded actor has never played Santa onscreen.

PLUS: A special guest performs the instant classic music quiz SONG CARPENTER!

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Joel and Chris are joined by Quentin Tarantino buffs Alex and Katy to discuss how to put The Thing into Death Proof, Tarantino's grimily ironic grindhouse tribute.
Joel pitches his UK version of Grindhouse, 'National Film Theatre'. Chris discusses his uncertainty about the film's foot footage. Alex likes Kurt Russell's unlikeability. And Katy reveals a secret about Stuntman Mike that many may have missed!
Also our stupidest quiz ever. And that's saying something.

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Joel and Chris are joined by author Peter Regan to discuss Big Trouble in Little China! ...and put The Thing into it.

For our 25th episode we look at the third part of the Russell/Carpenter collaboration pentagon. Is this film now underrated, overrated or correctly rated? What is its connection to The Golden Child? And do you really need to know Jack Burton's backstory?

Chris and Peter also talk about their scriptwriting, and connection to the Dad From Twilight, and Joel talks about The Raccoons for some reason.

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Joel and Chris are thrilled to be joined by Dan from the brilliant movie podcast Shoot the Hostage to discuss Dark Blue, an underseen, possibly underrated corrupt cop drama starring Kurt Russell.
Then they put The Thing into it. Obviously!
With a script by James Ellroy and David Ayer and directed by Ron Shelton, will this film be LA Confidential meets Training Day, or Suicide Squad meets Hollywood Homicide?
Joel thinks Scott Speedman's character is a momo, Chris thinks Ron Shelton is a very nice man, and Dan thinks David Ayer needs some career advice.

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Joel and Chris are joined by Matt O'Dwyer as they try to understand the ridiculous intensity of 1989's Tango & Cash! And then put The Thing into it.
Kurt Russell and Sylvester Stallone wisecrack their way through the ultimate distillation of 1980s Buddy Cop nonsense. Parody? Sincere? Genuinely gritty cop drama? Probably not the last one.
Chris drops one of the few names he has to drop and genuinely impresses Matt. Joel has a wicky wicky wild comparison to offer. And Matt loves Brion James' bizarre cockney accent, primarily because he loves Brion James.
PLUS: An incredible quiz that somehow becomes a huge bonding experience.

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How has it taken Chris and Joel this long to tackle a Steven Seagal film?
Of course, 1996's Executive Decision is really more of a Kurt Russell film, but there's plenty of Seagal talk to be had in this episode, just before they add The Thing to it in the best way possible!
Seriously, how many podcasts cover Executive Decision? Give this a listen!
Joel finds the not-so-secret connection between this film, Suicide Squad and Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. Chris somehow confuses the movie for a different one he hasn't actually seen. And they both find that John Leguizamo grows in their estimation. Or should that be... Pestimation?

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Joel and Chris examine the first John Carpenter/Kurt Russell collaboration: the 1979 Elvis biopic!
We discuss the controversies and ask the big questions: Did Elvis fake the moon landing? Did his mum die from being given a novelty Christmas decoration? And did Elvis get magical singing powers from absorbing his twin in the womb? Also we put the Thing in it. 
This episode also features our weirdest, and yet best quiz so far! Don't miss it! And don't let Commissioner Gordon hit you with oranges wrapped in a towel.

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Chris and Joel start Season 3's Kurt Russell odyssey by discussing Escape From New York! And then putting The Thing into it.
A cult classic, and the first non-Thing John Carpenter film they've covered, featuring Russell's star-making performance as Snake Plissken,  not to forget Van Cleef, Borgnine, Pleasence, and Mr. Harry Dean Stanton!
Joel goes highbrow with some Greek mythology,  Chris adores Romero (the character, not the director), and they're both fascinated by the cultural significance of  'Chock Full o' Nuts'. 
(Chris also likes Romero the director.)

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Joel and Chris discuss Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One!
SPOILER WARNING as in this bonus episode before the next season we do our own stunts, and by stunts we mean talking about this surprisingly strange film. 
Want to see how it connects to spaghetti westerns, John Wick, Grant Morrison, JJ Abrams ... and The Thing? Then listen!
Joel explains why he thinks Ant-Man 3 was written by Dan Brown. Chris finally understands Ethan Hunt and he's not happy. (Chris, not Ethan). And we reveal that the entire Mission Impossible film franchise is a secret sequel to an eighties film classic and then apparently completely lose it.
PLUS: An extra Thing based quiz!

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Joel and Chris celebrate their one-year podcast anniversary with a discussion on all they've learned from the movies of 1982!
Do we deliver an incisive definitive answer as to why The Thing flopped in that year? Maybe? Do we take a look at the 1982 films we watched and also somehow end up talking about the 2001 film Swordfish? Yes! 
Chris remembers the time he was living in a horror film, Joel gets carried away with some cinema based roleplay, and they announce the subject of their next series!

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Joel and Chris discuss Steven Lisberger's ground-breaking sci-fi epic Tron, and then try to put the creature from John Carpenter's The Thing into it.

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Get ready for a Just The Thing like you've never heard before, as Joel and Chris discuss Wayne Wang's documentary-style indie detective film Chan is Missing, and then try to put John Carpenter's The Thing into it!
Joel and Chris get very personal about their own experiences together at university  making guerilla films! They discuss Chris' Dad's obsessive videotaping!  They accidentally insult a lot of different high profile directors! This is a good one, folks.

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Joel and Chris are joined by film analysts Alex Jessep and Matt O'Dwyer to discuss 1982's Blade Runner and put a Thing in there!
The Thing. John Carpenter's The Thing.
Alex and Matt are two of Joel's oldest friends, so who better to discuss Blade Runner, the ultimate film about friendship? 
Chris loves Harrison Ford's goofy persona, Joel realises it's not the ultimate film about friendship, Alex thinks Gaff is the worst detective and Matt wonders if you can replicate a replicant? A replireplicant?

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Joel and Chris are joined by filmmaker and podcaster Ross Boyask to discuss 48 Hrs and put The Thing into it!
We not only tackle Eddie Murphy's star-making action comedy but get Ross' insight into previous episodes and get ever closer to understanding why The Thing might flop in 1982!
Joel controversially comes out against Director's Cuts and then almost immediately recants, Chris reads some Gross diaries, and Ross wonders what the noise of two pigeons being knocked together sounds like.

Please check out Ross' podcast!
Ross and Phil Talk Movies podcast

And these are the writer's diaries...
Larry Gross Diaries

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1982 season continues as Joel and Chris put John Carpenter's The Thing into First Blood! 
It's the second part of our Stallone mini-mini-series as we look at the surprisingly low-key first Rambo film and ask the question: masculinity?
Chris is terrified by Australia, Joel does much less Stallone impressions than last time, and we start to put together our pitch for a 'The Thing' cinematic universe. Thingiverse?

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It's the Just The Thing 2022 Christmas Special!
Joel Jessup and Chris Regan are joined by Andrea Regan to discuss Santa Claus: The Movie, and put The Thing into it!
Andrea's such a big fan of the film that she married Chris many years ago, just so she could get on this podcast. 
Joel absolutely roasts Dudley Moore,  Chris reveals his anti-wooden toy agenda, Andrea explains how she's an elf in spirit, and we all discuss exciting revelations about Mrs Claus' real name.

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1982 Season continues as Joel and Chris discuss Rocky III!
They've never seen any of the other films, and they don't know anything about boxing! Can they turn their relative ignorance into a pile-driving knockout blow of insight?
Joel falls in love with the limpid eyes of the young Stallone, Chris ponders the very existence of Mr T, and they both engage in possibly their most shambolic attempt to get The Thing into a movie so far!

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1982 season continues as Joel and Chris are joined by author (and part-time Chris' brother) Peter Regan to discuss Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and put The Thing into its plot, somehow!
Our first ever guest means a super-sized episode! Joel realises he can't pronounce oeuvre, Peter tries to steal Joel's vocal tic, and Chris discusses his chronic wig-blindness.

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In this special Halloween episode, Chris and Joel discuss 1982's Poltergeist.
Was this the film that held The Thing's hands behind its back while E.T. beat it up? 
Joel gives such a spooky opening that the audio quality drops horrifyingly! (It gets better.) Chris is most horrified by all the beer being wasted in the opening sequence. And we have a special Halloween quiz that is somehow the opposite of ASMR. RMSA?

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Joel and Chris discuss what would happen if The Thing was in Conan and ask all the important Conan-related questions, like did right-wing politics used to be more palatable? And what exactly is a snake cult? This episode also includes a rare deep dive into the actual plot of the film so if you haven't seen Conan the Barbarian you would be well-advised to rectify this before listening.

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1982 Season begins as Chris and Joel reimagine E.T. with John Carpenter's The Thing.  That's right, it's a film most of you will have seen!
Chris recalls how he spent his school years haunted by frogs, Joel does an amazing impression of E.T. being hit by a flamethrower,  and would becoming a pod person be such a bad thing, really?

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In this episode Chris and Joel enter the futuristic world of the year 2021 as they discuss perhaps the one, true cyberpunk movie, Johnny Mnemonic. There is so much to talk about with this movie, including the William Gibson source material, the short-lived career of Robert Longo and the eclectic cast that includes Japanese cult film star Takeshi Kitano and Dolph Lundgren as a cybernetic priest. In fact, there's so much going on in this film that it may prove resistant to an invasion by The Thing, but our two intrepid podcasters will try anyway.

This is the final episode of Season 1. The podcast will return for Season 2 towards the end of August.

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Joel and Chris dive into The Matrix Resurrections and lose themselves (and the core concept of the podcast) in a maze of tangents before uncovering the secret of the hallowed Warner Brothers creator-controlled sequel. Along the way they also find parallels between The Matrix Resurrections and Gremlins 2, contemplate the deeper meaning the creators of Space Jam 2 were aiming for and continue to question the existence of their own podcast.

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In this episode Joel and Chris examine the 1999 superhero comedy, Mystery Men, and look at how it manages to parody superhero tropes that barely existed at the time. They also consider the short-lived career of director Kinka Usher, ponder the real life origin of Michael Bay and compare the cast of characters to real life creative types they may or may not know in real life. For the main event, our two intrepid writers consider not only how John Carpenter's The Thing might alter a film like Mystery Men but how it could provide the basis for a potential sequel.

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In this episode Joel and Chris reimagine the third film in the Bad Boys trilogy if it had been invaded by John Carpenter's The Thing. What sounds like the most unlikely pairing in the series so far may be the first to actually work! Come with us as we discover a world in which Will Smith and Martin Lawrence team up to take on a shape-shifting alien. S**t just got real.

Disclaimer: This episode was recorded prior to the 2022 Oscars, so at the time of recording Will Smith is still a very nice man and we are blissfully unaware of him slapping anyone.

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In this episode, writers Joel Jessup and Chris Regan discuss Peter Chelsom's 2001 rom-com, Serendipity and imagine how things may have worked out differently for John Cusack and Kate Beckinsale if John Carpenter's The Thing had invaded their movie.

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Writers Joel Jessup and Chris Regan reimagine cult and classic movies by adding John Carpenter's The Thing into the story. Not even the two hosts understand why they are doing this but they'll figure it out, one movie at a time.

This week, Chris and Joel discuss Terry Marcel's 1983 sci-fi epic, Prisoners of the Lost Universe.

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