Above the Sides: Recent Episodes

Pono Shim

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast!

Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. Aloha is a lifestyle - not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or intended to be used as an advantage over anyone else.

We will discuss a variety of topics with Pono Shim, the President and CEO of the Oahu Economic Development Board. We hope that these stories will give you pause and time to reflect on your own lived experiences and approaches to everyday situations. Over time, you will also hear the voices and perspectives of community members from across Hawaii and the world who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, drawn from recordings in May and June 2020, Uncle Pono Shim reflects on the launch of the Aloha Response cohorts. He describes the early pilot as a leadership development space without credentials, certificates, or external markers of achievement, only a commitment to practice, reflection, and shared experience over time. From those first cohorts, he shares how leadership emerged through struggle, and how aloha is something that must be actively practiced rather than assumed. Mahalo for listening.

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this reflection, we revisit a recording from May 31, 2020 with the late Pono Sam as he shares his thoughts on haʻahaʻa, the practice of becoming empty, humble, and open. Through reflections on mindfulness and listening, he reminds us that some of our greatest insights can emerge if we create space for them through presence.

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this reflection episode of Above the Sides, the late Pono Shim shares the personal origin story behind his lifelong aloha practice. Recorded from a 2020 Zoom conversation, Uncle Pono reflects on a formative walk with his great-aunt, Pilahi Paki, who taught him not how to speak Hawaiian, but how to “think Hawaiian” through presence, humility, and intentional practice. Through stories of his ʻohana, silence, and real-world experiences, he shares how he navigated aloha as a lived practice - a way of responding to life with awareness and connection. Mahalo for tuning in.

Episode Highlights

01:04 ʻOhana roots and influences

02:20 Early lessons

04:14 The walk that changed everything

05:17 "Think Hawaiian"

07:17 Three layers of meaning

09:53 Aloha practice: Ahonui to Lokahi

15:26 Permission to share the teachings

16:36 Lifetime discipline of aloha

17:51 Hiking Koko Head - a revelation

21:05 Practicing in silence

24:24 Real-world case study

26:52 Presence

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode of Above the Sides, Denise Karratti, vice principal of Waimea High School on Kauaʻi, shares her journey into education and the sense of kuleana she carries for her community. Denise reflects on the power of “storyfinding,” uncovering meaningful lessons in everyday moments and using them to lead with clarity, humility and aloha. She offers insights from her experience working in a tight knit, multigenerational community, where the impact of education can be seen across decades. Through thoughtful stories, Denise highlights the importance of planting seeds of growth, even when the results may not be visible for years to come. Listeners will find that this conversation is a reflection on how practicing aloha in real, imperfect circumstances is how positive change can take root. Mahalo for tuning in!

Episode Highlights

01:07 Home: Waimea, Kauai

01:53 Why education matters

05:18 From engineering to teaching

08:11 Seeds that grow later

10:53 Cultural revival through games

14:49 Finding Foundations of Aloha

16:36 Intuitive nudges

18:12 Story finding and a lei lesson

26:21 Aloha in action role models

30:31 Practicing aloha in systems

33:27 Hopes for abundance in Hawaii

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode of the Above the Sides, Kaui Tanaka, Principal of Maunawili Elementary School shares her path from growing up on Oʻahu and “playing school” as a child to building a joyful career in education. She talks about how the Foundations of Aloha program influences the way she approaches communication and finding solutions in her work. Through stories from her career and reflections on teachings of the late Pono Shim, she discusses how the values of aloha show up at school. Kaui also reflects on what it means to work with Hawaii’s keiki and the role schools play in shaping both learning and character. The conversation explores how simple practices like listening, patience and respect can shape stronger relationships in our Hawaii schools and communities. Mahalo for tuning in!

Episode Highlights

01:47 Growing Up on Oahu

02:22 Called to Teach

03:52 Journey to Maunawili Elementary School

06:17 Joy of Working with Keiki

07:58 Discovering Foundations of Aloha

09:51 Healing a Work Relationship

13:07 Aloha in Practice

14:13 Aloha Fridays and Student Legacy

16:50 Everyday Aloha Moments

19:33 Meeting Foundations Team

21:21 Presence

23:18 A Cup and Half of Flour

26:34 Why Teaching Fulfills

29:01 Gratitude and Practice

31:52 Saying Yes in 2026

Learn more about Education Incubatorʻs Foundations of Aloha program: https://eduincubator.org/our-work/

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode of Above the Sides, Cherilyn Inouye, who serves as Compassionate Koolau’s District Education Specialist, shares her winding journey through education, community work, and aloha centered leadership in Hawaii. Grounded in place, story, and ike kupuna, Cherilyn reflects on how listening deeply and honoring aina have shaped her path from classroom teacher to community connector. She speaks candidly about trauma informed education, the power of Foundations of Aloha, and the mentors and communities that continue to inspire her hana. Through stories from schools and fishponds to loi kalo and chance meetings, Cherilyn illustrates what aloha looks like in daily practice. Mahalo for listening!

Learn more about Compassionate Koolau.

Episode Highlights

01:09 Cherilyn’s background and roots

02:45 Her path into education

03:47 Teaching and early career

06:09 Advanced studies and pivotal experiences

18:50 Foundations of Aloha

23:55 Reflecting on the gift of lessons

24:59 Grounding in Aloha values

26:02 Integrating Aloha in education

28:45 Challenges and personal growth

32:18 Aloha in the community

40:32 Compassionate Koolau

45:20 Final thoughts

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode of Above the Sides, we sit down with Brent Kakesako, Executive Director of the Hawaiʻi Alliance for Community-Based Economic Development (HACBED). Brent shares stories from his upbringing in Honolulu, Hawai'i and reflects on the experiences that shaped his path into community-based economic development. We explore HACBED’s approach to development rooted in active listening, facilitation, and uplifting community voice. The conversation also touches on aloha in action and Brent’s connection to Pono Shim and the integration of the aloha values into his day-to-day life. We hope you find this conversation to be a thoughtful look at how values, relationships, and place-based work can shape a more caring and connected future for Hawaii. Learn more about HACBED at: https://hacbed.org/

Episode Highlights

00:52 Brent's Background

01:57 HACBED's Mission and Approach

02:40 Programs and Community Impact

07:36 The Power of Active Listening

10:29 Brent's Journey into Economic Development

17:57 Influence of Mentors and Community Connections

20:07 Aloha in Action and Personal Reflections

25:40 Navigating Parenting

25:51 Understanding Oluolu

26:40 Incorporating Aloha in Daily Life

27:09 Honoring Mentors and Community Values

27:39 Economic Development Grounded in Values

27:59 Hopes for Hawaii's Economy

28:45 Challenges and Opportunities in Community Work

32:34 Institutional Commitment to Community

37:44 What is Enough? Workplace Culture and Wellbeing - 4 Day, 32 Hour Work Weeks

45:33 Reflections on Aloha and Community Engagement

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, Celeste Connors, the new President of the East‑West Center in Honolulu, shares how Hawaiʻi’s core value of aloha can guide global diplomacy. Raised in Hawaiʻi with over 25 years of experience as a U.S. diplomat and policy advisor, she brings a distinctive island‑rooted perspective to international relations. Listeners will hear stories of how aloha values such as care, respect, and relationality shape complex global conversations and foster meaningful cross‑cultural connections. Influenced by her dear friend and colleague, the late Pono Shim, she reflects on how Hawaiʻi can serve as a bridge within the Asia-Pacific region, cultivating mutual understanding and shared values through the work of the East‑West Center - and beyond. This conversation offers a fresh, values-driven vision of diplomacy that centers humanity and hope.

Episode Highlights

01:56 Celeste Connors' Career Journey

03:41 First Foreign Service Assignment

04:30 International Assignments and Graduate School

06:36 Return to the White House

07:58 Sustainability and the SDGs

10:08 Returning to Hawaii

12:09 Hawaii Green Growth and Community Impact

19:16 Meeting Pono Shim and Coming Home

27:11 The Essence of Aloha in Achieving SDGs

27:58 Hawaii's Leadership and the Aloha+ Challenge

29:53 Hawaii's Next Generation of Leaders

33:56 Reflections on Global Movements and Peace Seekers

35:42 Hopes for Hawaii's Economic Future

39:09 Honoring Pono Shim

48:21 The Role of the East West Center

54:06 Final Reflections

Resources

East‑West Center – Promoting Asia‑Pacific dialogue and research

Hawaiʻi Green Growth – Advancing sustainable growth and environmental stewardship

Aloha+ Challenge – Hawaiʻi’s statewide sustainability and SDG initiative

Aloha+ Challenge Program Details – Learn more about Hawaiʻi’s action plan for the SDGs

Aina Aloha Economic Futures – Supporting Hawaiʻi’s sustainability and community initiatives

United Nations Sustainable Development Goals – Global framework for sustainable development

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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Mahalo for tuning in to our 50th episode! For the first time, the Oahu Economic Development Board team - Cat Awakuni Colón (President & CEO), Dori Baba (Operations Manager), Tyler Mejia (Community Outreach & Compliance Specialist), and Molly Mamaril (Community Innovation Connector) - comes together to talk OEDB’s effort to bring aloha and care into business practices. They share about the origins of the “Above the Sides” podcast and how Pono Shim’s commitment to storytelling continues to drive their approach to community-based economic development and their vision for Hawaii’s future. The team discusses various community-facing programs, offers personal stories, and reflects on striving to live in reverence of aloha in everyday life. The conversation closes with advice for the next generation and what’s ahead for the nonprofit. Mahalo for listening.

Episode Highlights

01:51 Meet the OEDB Team: Cat, Dori, Tyler, Molly

05:11 The Origin Story of 'Above the Sides' Podcast

11:23 Continuing Uncle Pono's Storytelling Legacy

20:58 Vision for Hawaii's Future

24:39 OEDB's Approach to Economic Development

36:28 Personal Stories of Aloha

40:45 Aloha in Pop Culture (Movie Recommendations)

42:22 Reflecting on the Aloha Connects Innovation (ACI) Program

46:14 Honoring Uncle Pono Shim

53:23 Personal Stories and Lessons Learned

58:03 Advice for the Next Generation

01:02:30 Planting Seeds for Hawaii's Future

01:09:05 Favorite Memories and Team Dynamics

01:14:59 On the Horizon

Learn more about the Oahu Economic Development Board: https://www.oedb.biz

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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IIn this special short episode, we explore the deeper meaning of "hana" in the Hawaiian language and why it extends far beyond the Western concept of “work.” In this clip from a 2022 Zoom presentation, Uncle Pono Shim reflects on how hana is connected to breath, grace, purpose and ʻohana. Building on themes from last month’s Two Voyages episode, this moment stood out as such a meaningful reflection that we created a dedicated episode to share it. As a complement, we invite you to watch the E Ohana Hou 2020 video here for a fuller understanding of these teachings.

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, we revisit one of Uncle Pono Shim’s Zoom presentations, recorded on February 24, 2022. Shared with a group of Hawaiʻi filmmakers, the session centers on the teachings of Aunty Pilahi Paki and the stories that shaped his life. He reflects on being 13 years old in 1976, going on a walk with Aunty Pilahi and learning the values that would guide his way of thinking. He explore the meaning behind ALOHA: Akahai (meaning kindness to be expressed with tenderness), Lokahi (unity, to be expressed with harmony), Oluolu (agreeable, to be expressed with pleasantness), Haahaa (humility, to be expressed with modesty), and Ahonui (patience, to be expressed with perseverance).

Uncle Pono also shares the story of the two canoes - the physical voyage of Hokulea and a second, spiritual canoe with no map; he describes ALOHA itself as the vessel for this journey. Aunty Pilahi once said to him, “I’m not going to teach you how to speak Hawaiian, Iʻm going to teach you how to think Hawaiian.” This episode offers a glimpse into what that means, grounded in her prophecy: "“The world will turn to Hawaii as they search for world peace because Hawaii has the key… and that key is aloha." Mahalo nui loa for listening.

Episode Highlights

02:39 The Star Compass

11:39 1961 - Aunty Pilahi Pakiʻs story, the "librarian" of Hawaii's secrets

17:53 1976 - Pono Shim's story with Aunty Pilahi at age 13

30:00 Aunty Pilahi Paki's ALOHA - Ahonui, Lokahi, Oluolu, Haahaa, Akahai

40:40 Stories as laau lapaau (medicine)

41:24 2018 - Navigators and Peace Seekers

45:19 1976 - The Two Voyages: synchronicity with Hokulea and Nainoa Thompson

  • First canoe: Physical waa - the manifestation of awakening and recovery
  • Second canoe: Spiritual waa - the walk, the talk, ha, and no instruction manual. "ALOHA is the largest voyaging canoe in the world"

49:40 Two objectives in every story

50:30 "Weʻre not a project, we're the resource"

More ALOHA Resources:

  • Pono Shim Videos and Presentations
  • Foundation of Aloha with Education Incubator

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this heartfelt episode, Brooke Conway reflects on the themes of identity and belonging as she traces her path from San Francisco to Samoa, Hawaiʻi, and Sicily. She shares how the spirit of aloha (and some incredible meals along the way) have helped her build connections and navigate healing. A chance meeting with Pono Shim became a turning point in her growth and offered her wisdom that continues to guide her through grief, motherhood, and her Social Work career. Brooke speaks to the power of values like akahai (grace) and oluolu (gentle strength), especially in moments of personal and collective challenge. This episode invites you to reflect on you own stories and to respond to the world with compassion. Mahalo for listening!

Episode Highlights

00:33 Introduction to Brooke Conway

02:31 San Francisco to Samoa to Hawaii: Where might we land?

05:37 Three homes

08:26 Sicily: reconnecting with ancestral roots

13:45 Food as aloha, connection, identity

16:21 Meeting Uncle Pono Shim: right place, right time

17:54 Unlocking the healing medicine

22:43 Sitting with the aloha practice during difficult times

26:03 Leaning in to akahai (grace) during her grandmother's passing

31:15 Stories as medicine

33:26 Mental health and wellness - aiming for unity from "above the sides"

34:48 Oluolu (gentle strength)

37:39 Weaving the aloha values into Social Work

39:39 Nelson Mandela interview with Oprah: Action and Unity vs. Humility

41:15 Nelson Mandela as centered in self, not self-centered

42:45 Watching current events with a critical eye: Is there an aloha response present? Am I seeing this situation through heavenʻs perspective? Am I seeing the world through the lens of my trauma?

46:21 Is my hana my trauma response - or is it divinely inspired?

48:26 Aloha and motherhood: kids are our greatest teachers

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, we sit down with longtime Hawaiʻi attorney, Kevin Wakayama, to explore how a heart-led approach has shaped his decades of legal practice. From his roots on Kauaʻi to studying law during the Vietnam War, Kevin shares pivotal moments of his life and what led him to choose tax law over criminal law. Rooted in the Aloha Spirit Law and influenced by the late Alvin and Pono Shim, Kevin offers thoughtful reflections on his experiences interlacing aloha into legal work and leadership. He also reminisces about the late 1960s, when as a high school student, he was part of a movement where local visionaries imagined the year 2000 and ways to reach a diversified economy centered on peace through education and value-aligned industries. Whether you're curious about law, committed to social justice, or drawn to Hawaii's history of community leadership, we invite you to pause with Kevin's stories.

Episode Highlights

00:00 Introduction to Kevin Wakayama

00:50 Becoming an attorney: Kauaʻi to college during the Vietnam War

03:57 Choosing tax law over criminal law

04:51 The Aloha Spirit Law in practice

08:54 Reflections on the Aloha Spirit and community

21:21 Aiming for Prosperity in 1969: economic development and education in Hawaii

36:23 Aloha in action

39:53 Advice for aspiring legal professionals

42:48 Closing thoughts

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, we sit down with David Fuertes, a farmer, educator and advocate for food sustainability, to explore his path of bringing aloha to agriculture. As a community leader and Executive Director of Kahua Paa Mua in North Kohala on Hawaii Island, David has spent the past 15 years cultivating a “backyard revolution” through aina-based education that blends traditional practices with Korean Natural Farming. He shares how the organization supports youth and families in learning to grow their own food, raise animals, and build agricultural businesses. David reflects on rebuilding Hawaii’s Future Farmers of America chapters, his roots in Kaumakani, Kauai, and the importance of pilina (relationships), a value deepened through his friendship with Pono Shim. Through stories of teaching, military service, and reflecting on E Ohana Hou (the eternal unleashing of grace), David reminds us that food and love can be the foundation of a thriving lahui (people).

Episode Highlights

0:24 Introduction to David Fuertes

1:02 Kahua Paa Mua and the "backyard revolution" of learning to grow food

3:15 Rebuilding Future Farmers of America (FFA) Hawaii chapters

5:25 Pandemic pivots on the farm and Aloha Connects Innovation (ACI)

9:32 Roots in Kaumakani, Kauai, a sugar plantation town; learning about hard work

12:41 College, getting drafted into Vietnam War, giving back and lifelong friendships

15:51 Becoming an agriculture teacher

18:21 The best Filipino ringtone ever

20:18 Former students, then and now

22:44 Dream food sustainability scenario - ahupuaa model

26:05 How to make agriculture thrive in Hawaii: a farmer's perspective

27:28 Reading plants and organisms to help them grow and thrive

30:18 Taro: teaching young ones about life

32:15 E OHANA HOU

35:28 Pilina: Friendship with Pono Shim

39:47 Aloha and the lahui

43:05 The universal language of love: food

44:33 The 3 QP (Quality, People, Partnership)

47:21 Aloha + the concentric circle of influence and control

48:33 JFK Hawaii visit

49:23 Driving with aloha

Learn more about Kahua Paa Mua at: https://www.kahuapaamua.org/about

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this reflective episode, Hye Jung Kim Tano and Miki Tomita Okamoto of Education Incubator come together to share the story of their interwoven careers and their commitment to carrying forward Uncle Pono Shim’s aloha teachings. Hye Jung reflects on finding a sense of "home" in Hawaii and her journey to meeting Miki at the University of Hawaii Lab School - where their shared vision, dedication to students, and sense of humor sparked the beginning of their work together at Education Incubator (EI). EI is a Hawaii-based nonprofit that focuses on innovation, curriculum development, and professional development, encouraging youth and educators to become agents of change. Hye Jung and Miki look back on Hokulea’s Worldwide Voyage with the Polynesian Voyaging Society, sharing about the early days of Google Hangouts streaming video from the canoe's crew to classrooms around the planet.

They also reminisce about Uncle Pono’s surprise visits to their office, caring for him during his cancer journey through healing foods, and the solace that Hye Jung still finds at Ala Moana Beach after his passing. This episode is an invitation into laughter, tears, and an exploration of aloha through the full acceptance of one another (and ourselves) as caring, conflicted humans.

Episode Highlights

1:18 The gifted story from Uncle Pono to Hye Jung

2:52 Hye Jung's origin story - South Korea to Hawaii

4:00 Hawaii is home

5:50 Becoming an educator

6:59 Meeting Miki Tomita Okamoto at UH Lab School

11:50 Project Pono, Polynesian Voyaging Society, interwoven career value and interests

14:57 Trust and shared vision

16:46 Memories with students

19:45 Adventures on Hokulea's Worldwide Voyage

24:30 Launching Education Incubator and running Google trainings across the state

29:40 Navigating Foundation of Aloha Navigators - pandemic pivots

37:23 Hye Jung meeting Uncle Pono at DoFest in California

41:34 Being present together and the Uncle Pono's jam

44:16 Swimming at Ala Moana Beach, gaining trust

49:32 A special bond

50:37 Comfort foods during Uncle Ponoʻs cancer treatment (toast!)

53:40 Acceptance of the full range of emotions

55:27 Practicing aloha as caring, conflicted humans

58:26 Openness to the unexpected lessons

1:00:49 The last weekend at Kuliouou Beach Park with Uncle Nainoa Thompson, Uncle Pono and Miki

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this special episode to celebrate the 2025 Merrie Monarch Festival, we sit down with Kumu Hula, Karl Veto Baker, of Halau I Ka Wekiu for a heartfelt conversation that weaves together the art of hula and the spirit of aloha. Kumu Veto shares how his haumana prepare for Merrie Monarch and what it means to watch his dancers rise to the moment. He describes the 50th teaching anniversary of his mentor, Kumu Hula Robert Cazimero, and reflects upon the Hawaiian Renaissance that shaped a generation of cultural practitioners. In the spirit of aloha, Kumu Veto also describes his friendship with Pono Shim and how Pono became the Kahu of Halau I Ka Wekiu. As a businessman himself, we also dive into the intersection of culture and business as well as his hopes for a thriving Hawaii in which kamaaina have the opportunity to come home and give back to their communities. And of course, this episode would be remiss if we didnʻt get an exciting glimpse into the Halau's 2025 Merrie Monarch performances. Join us for a celebration of hula as a way of life. Mahalo for tuning in!

Episode Highlights

0:22 Introduction to Kumu Hula Karl Veto Baker

1:08 Preparing for Merrie Monarch 2025

2:15 Seeing students rise to the occasion

3:47 "Hula is life"

5:11 Celebrating Kumu Hula Robert Cazimero's 50th year of teaching

6:55 Holding on to our culture, the Hawaiian Renaissance in the 1970s

10:19 Moderation leads to abundance

11:09 Aloha Aku, Aloha Mai

14:12 Uplifting hula, sharing love with audiences

17:02 Drawing an audience in, transferable skills from hula to life

19:43 Bringing kamaaina back home to Hawaii

26:59 Friendship with Pono Shim

29:04 Pono becoming the Kahu for Halau I Ka Wekiu (2013)

32:36 Connections to students

36:45 Envisioning a thriving Hawaii

38:47 Navigating the translation space - speaking the language of the heart

39:19 Establishing a mortgage business

42:25 Bridging the gap between the corporate world and hula

43:39 The feeling of performing - bringing newness to the art

46:30 2025 performances: Reviving the saga of Halemano and Kamalalawalu

51:17 Peahi o Makana (written by Kumu Hula Devin Kamealoha Forrest)

52:50 From vision to final dance

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey touncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration forthis podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of theOʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence ofwhat it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle.It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as anadvantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's QueenLiliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear whatis not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable –that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is butOne.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective,the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices ofHawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who havechosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In celebration of our 4th anniversary of "Above the Sides," we eagerly welcome Oahu Economic Development Board member, Robin Campaniano to this episode. In this conversation, we discuss his people-first approach to business and envisioning a prosperous Hawaii economy. Robin reflects on his long-standing friendship with Pono Shim, exploring how their intertwined careers have shaped his philosophy of aloha. Robin’s influence in Hawaii’s business community is extensive; he previously served as President and CEO of AIG Hawaii Insurance Company, Insurance Commissioner for the State of Hawaii, and District Director and Counsel for the Small Business Administration’s Honolulu Office. Most recently, he was selected as a member of the Governor's Climate Advisory Team. To give a glimpse into his world, Robin ideates about the power of observation in business, the significance of sharing meals together, the impact of Hawaii's small community culture on economic decisions (from tourism to military), and the integration of aloha into both relationships and written contracts. Robin opens up about his lifelong commitment to living up to the Hawaiian name that Pono gifted to him from the elders - and his hopefulness in Hawaii's future as we strive to "remember who we are." Mahalo for joining us these last four years as we uncover what it means to think, act and live aloha.

Episode Highlights

0:24 Introduction to Robin Campaniano

1:41 Friendship and intertwining careers with Pono Shim

3:35 Pono's approach and sensitivity

4:55 "We Go Eat" - the power of communal meals

6:16 How to do business in Hawaii: welcoming visitors, new residents and colleagues to the islands

8:00 Touching the essence of a person's character to motivate them

8:49 Influences arise years later

10:15 Joining the OEDB board of directors, exploring economic diversity

12:00 Kicking off the New Markets Tax Credits venture

12:44 Observation first

14:30 Career and leadership reflections

16:36 Hawaii is a small community/ island society

17:10 "Pay it forward" - community involvement and service on nonprofit boards

18:20 Hawaii's Climate Advisory Team

20:15: Childhood on Air Force Bases (Japan to New York), graduated from Roosevelt High School

21:58 Bringing the spirit of aloha to the global insurance industry

23:41 Aloha in Action - writing the aloha spirit law into partnership agreements

26:55 Native Hawaiians were intrepid in aquaculture, agriculture and wayfinding

28:57 How do you include the aloha spirit into your written contracts? Establishing the connection

31:21 Balancing tourism and military economic impacts

34:03 Friendship with Pono Shim and being given a Hawaiian name

38:34 Living up to the name

39:16 What is on the horizon?

40:16 Favorite meals with Pono

41:45 A series of memories -

42:55 The influence of Alvin Shim

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jay King, an action-oriented advocate who has dedicated his life to supporting veterans and other vulnerable communities in need. With his extensive experience in social services, Jay works with a spirit of "yes," helping individuals find housing, employment, and critical resources to rebuild their lives. His deep empathy and commitment shine through as he connects with those he serves, offering not just help, but heart and humanity in every interaction. Based in Honolulu, Hawaii, Jay’s work has a profound impact on both the local community and the lives of those he touches. Tune in to hear how he leads with care, gusto, and unwavering dedication to making a difference for each person he supports.

Episode Highlights

0:24 Introduction to Jay

1:27 Inspiration from the Peaceful Warrior book

3:15 Family foundations in Hawaii

4:29 Moved to Hawaii in the early 2000s

5:23 "Give what you want to receive"

7:06 Working with everyday heroes

9:44 Veterans' services

10:42 The paradigm shift that encouraged him to enter the Marines

13:45 There are immense humanitarian needs here at home and social workers are real heroes

15:48 Aloha (and research) in action: Getting Michael a motorized wheelchair

20:13 Case workers need the autonomy to be impactful

20:58 Benefits of working for a congressional office - the power of YES

25:00 The value of individuals is not always quantified in systems

25:36 Choice

26:15 Civic entitlement vs. authentic need

27:18 Homeless services - the greatest work is what we don't see

27:55 What does a thriving Hawaii look like? Ending choicelessness, strong leadership, livable wages and affordable housing, allocates appropriate resources

34:17 Workforce development and addressing employment and housing barriers

36:18 Sustainable housing initiative for rapid rehousing

38:08 The rising tide doesn't life all boats

39:35 Miracle workers

42:21 Finding equilibrium between compassion, firmness and service

44:26 Workforce development: We need aloha to go from internet to interview

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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Mahalo for tuning in to our first episode of 2025! We are changing up the format of this "Above the Sides" episode to bring you a story that was gifted from Uncle Pono Shim to our dear friend Hye Jung Kim Tano from Education Incubator and Foundations of Aloha. This story is about his experience being part of the groundbreaking ceremony and blessing of the Prince Kuhio Federal Building in 2010 after a major renovation. Hye Jung had the foresight to record her conversation with him in 2020 when he recounted this story to her and that recording is included in this episode. She also gives her backstory about receiving this story from him in the introduction. Mahalo for listening.

Episode Highlights

0:23 Introducing Hye Jung Kim Tano and this special episode

2:15 Hye Jung's backstory of being gifted a story from Uncle Pono Shim in 2020

6:15 Uncle Pono Shim's recording on the blessing of the Kalanianaole Federal Building in 2010

6:39 Being asked to bless the federal building

8:24 History of the federal building and the surrounding land

10:17 Planning the blessing ceremony

12:02 Receiving a map of Honolulu Harbor in 1810

14:28 Hewahewa Nui and his Kahuna Hale

16:14 Kaaawa and Waialua

18:23 Look deeper

20:49 Meeting John De Fries

22:28 Strange occurrences at the building during construction and

23:38 Maile lei

25:40 Being present and in harmony

26:17 The story underneath

27:56 Finding how and when to share stories

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this last episode of 2024, we are grateful to share the insights of Herb Lee, Jr., the President and CEO of the Pacific American Foundation (PAF). For over thirty years, the PAF Ohana has served community and youth with comprehensive programs and projects including leadership development, career planning and placement, cultural and environmental stewardship, youth mentorship, and project-based learning. As he reflects on the last 31 years serving Kaneohe (and beyond), Herb shares about how restoration of aina (land; that which feeds) can also heal our connections to community, self and spirit. The foundation for him has, and always will be, aloha. Herb credits his friendship with Pono Shim as a valuable touchpoint throughout his life and career and reflects on their many conversations about Hawaii's future. We discuss the importance of reclaiming a producer mindset as a foundational element for healthy economic development grounded in Hawaiian values. Our OEDB team extends our gratitude to Herb for his manao in helping guide the Oahu Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy with intention and aloha.

Uncle Herb, we wish you a prosperous retirement!

Episode Highlights

0:23 Introduction

0:51 Waikalua Loko Ia and the Pacific American Foundation

2:02 Friendship with Pono Shim

4:25 The beginnings of a community-focused career

6:28 Education as critical component in the restoration of Waikalua fishpond; students learning the relevance of their learnings within the context of place

9:36 Pacific American Foundation reflections on the last 30 years: adopting a generational mindset

13:39 Our ancestors are always present

17:24 Optimistic about the future - E Ohana Hou

20:00 Aloha and indigenous wisdom around the world

23:39 What does surrendering during uncertainty look like for you?

26:31 Understanding aloha aina

28:58 Crossroads and finding the way forward

33:15 Education coming full circle: students growing up and contributing to the community

36:12 The producer mindset and culturally-informed economic development

43:35 Envisioning prosperity

46:27 I ka wa ma mua, i ka wa ma hope: Indigenous knowledge as a balance to technology

48:07 Retirement - Imua Hou, E Ohana Hou!

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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In this episode of "Above the Sides," we welcome Camille Rockett who serves as the Director of Community Health and Equity at Hawaii Medical Service Association (HMSA). As a student of the Aloha Response, Camille shares about her growth in bringing aloha and trust to the forefront of decision-making when it comes to providing health resources to Hawaii residents. Working towards a prosperous Hawaii through the concept of "healthy people, healthy economy" is clearly reflected in her pursuit of restoring abundance, in all forms, to our communities. Camille shares about her "aha!" moments of learning with her teacher, Pono Shim, as well as her realizations about the ahupuaa model and how applying that framework assists her team in its efforts to connect residents to resources which can boost their overall well-being through improved social determinants of health. We hope you enjoy this dive into health equity and exploring how practicing aloha uplifts not only ourselves, but those around us. Mahalo for listening in!

Episode Highlights

0:00 Intro

1:10 Bridge-building as the Director of Community Health and Equity Healthcare at HMSA

4:20 How have you developed the skills to navigate difficult conversations?

7:11 How did you end up in your current role at HMSA?

11:35 Blue Zones Project and growing healthy communities

14:06 Health outcomes are related to our surroundings

14:43 Meeting Uncle Pono and exploring Relevance vs. Reverence

18:13 How did your relationship with Uncle Pono grow after you met?

21:15 Have you had any "aha!" moments in your work and with HMSA?

21:49 Leave the bad, keep the good

23:04 The Old Ahupuaa

24:28 Exploring health inequities and increasing access to resources

33:40 Haahaa - building community relationships grounded in trust and care

39:28 How do your "aha!" moments apply to your work within HMSA?

43:29 How do we care for our caregivers?

48:13 What does thriving look like?

49:42 Aloha is self care

55:52 Growing up on Maui, family values

1:01:35 Moving to Oahu to study Social Work

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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Tyrone Montayre is the President and Founder of Protect and Preserve Hawaii, an environmental nonprofit founded in 2019 to care for Pia Valley, Oahu. In this episode, we hear first-hand from Tyrone what it is like to transition from a full-time mechanic to a conservationist and entrepreneur and dive deeply into the learning curves of starting a new organization. After his motherʻs passing, he made an unexpected decision to purchase 330 acres of preservation land at a City and County of Honolulu auction. From there his purpose expanded. Tyrone's aloha for Hawaii comes across clearly, not only in his unique path to conservation, but in his creative efforts to engage volunteers and bring much-needed awareness to place-based education, native ecosystem restoration and raising the bar for conservation pay rates. The Protect and Preserve Hawaii team and its enthusiastic volunteers are cultivating a prosperous model in Pia Valley - not only to strengthen relationships between people and ʻāina, but between people and their greater purpose. Mahalo for tuning in!

Episode Highlights

1:01 Entering the conservation world

2:33 Purchasing Pia Valley and connecting with the conservation partners and neighbors

4:28 Nurturing a supportive hui

5:46 Creating a management plan and launching volunteer programs, meant to be doing this

7:18 Life has changed a lot in the last 6 years

8:14 Where does your love of Hawaii come from?

9:22 Realizing what we value and embracing it

10:44 What do you think your mother would think of you launching Protect and Preserve Hawaii?

11:11 Growing a volunteer community grounded in gratitude

13:33 Volunteer programs offerings: ecosystem restoration (including invasive removal, native outplanting, guided hikes with botanist), volunteer exchange program, laau lapaau, malama pohaku

15:50 Building a social media movement during the pandemic

19:20 What is the vision for Pia Valley?

21:38 Awareness vs. caring

22:04 Pia Valley as an economic model of prosperity

24:41 How have your volunteers been changed by Pia Valley?

26:37 How have you changed?

28:33 Getting comfortable public speaking after changing careers

32:38 What are the challenges for Protect and Preserve Hawaii?

33:09 Cultivating ecological empathy

35:10 Engaging volunteers effectively through social media

38:46 Are you working harder now or when you were a mechanic?

39:48 Livable wages in conservation, valuing the long term care of Hawaii's natural resources

45:17 Getting creative to secure sustainable funding

47:51 The value of native rainforests

49:35 Cultivating abundance in Pia Valley through multiple forms of capital, return on investment

50:49 What is your favorite part of your job?

51:35 How do you bring aloha into your life and work? Community, sharing gratitude, humility, being a lifelong student

53:55 Aloha doesn't stop at 5pm

Learn more about Protect and Preserve Hawaii: https://www.protectpreservehi.org/

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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Todayʻs guest, Taylor "Maeʻole" Quanan, has been on a path of self-discovery through different seasons of her life: from moving to Japan for college to serving as a guardian for her younger sister, embracing motherhood and healing from grief and trauma. She consistently finds meaning through aloha in practice. Taylor is part of the team at Liliʻuokalani Trust, serving as a Housing Navigator to help Hawaiʻi residents find safe and dignified housing. She met Pono Shim through her time as a Hawaiʻi State Youth Commissioner and from that connection, she now serves on the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. Taylor's wisdom, openness and and innovative spirit shines forward in her words as she works to uplift the Hawaiian lāhui.

Episode Highlights

0:31 Introduction

1:20 Visiting from Honolulu

2:57 How did you meet Uncle Pono Shim?

4:19 Addressing Houselessness, Kuleana Academy, Graduating from University of Tsukuba, Caretaking for family

6:27 Hawaii State Youth Commission

8:54 Meeting Pono Shim

10:38 New approach to storytelling and what it means to be Hawaiian

12:30 "Change We Must" book

14:23 Growing through grief and loss

22:25 Opportunities to serve, supported by the women of her life

25:27 How did you come to the idea that "growth can come through healing?"

  • Questions to self: Could this be seen differently? Could this be endured differently? Who do i have to lean on in there times? Do I have wahi pana or places to go where I can feel something again? How do you rebuild with intention?

30:07 Serving the Queenʻs mission through Liliʻuokalani Trust, seeing kanaka in more places of decision-making and healing

35:28 Houselessness: creating a place of belonging, people are our greatest asset

37:27 Envisioning Hawaii at its best

40:59 Reverence in all interactions

45:33 Going to Japan for university and finding independence

52:43 Favorite TED Talks

55:45 Radical optimism

57:56 Holding stories

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In this episode, Ben Treviño shares how the values of aloha have shaped him as a father, partner, son and colleague. He was a close student of Pono Shim, and despite the passing of his friend and mentor, Ben continues to recognize unexpected moments of learning and evolution as they present themselves. He has served in various executive, entrepreneurial and technology roles, leading with creativity and energy. Ben is currently the network coordinator for the Omidyar Fellows program where he cultivates connections to build a stronger, values-based network of Hawaii leaders. In this conversation, Ben shares stories about his family and career that have shaped and humbled him, including the realization of how E Ohana Hou has unfolded in his own life. Enjoy listening!

Episode Highlights:

1:02 The Hawaii Leadership Forum and Omidyar Fellows

2:51 Ben's career and what he would tell his younger self

4:16 Parents, family background and love for cinema: "You can do anything"

7:40 Father's Day with his daughter at the movies

8:32 Transformation for Hawaii and self through leadership and stories

10:37 How did you meet Uncle Pono Shim?

15:00 Do you remember your first 1:1 meeting with him?

17:18 How are you weaving in the aloha response to your role?

18:55 Aloha and its impact on deepening his connection to Hawaii

24:41 Are there traditions or experiences from your youth that play into your work today?

27:16 Realizing that software development skills could be of service to the community

30:45 A thriving Hawaii economy, feeling valued and courageous

35:54 Personal economy and basic needs, aina and contributing our hana

40:22 The power of stories for humanity

43:33 Parenthood and examples of aloha

48:13 Did Uncle Pono give you a story?

51:42: What feeds you?

53:46 E Ohana Hou

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In this episode we are joined by our friend, business partner and United Fund Advisors Co-Founder, Chris Hasle. For over ten years, Chris and his team have served as consultants to Oahu Economic Development Board and our Community Development Entity (CDE) , Punawai O Puuhonua, which was created in partnership with American Savings Bank. Along the way, he and Pono Shim became close friends, navigating the needs and intricacies of business with aloha and how to uplift those areas that need capital investment the most across our islands. Through that CDE and with Chris' support, we have deployed funding to low income communities throughout Hawaii through the CDFI's New Markets Tax Credits (NMTC) program. Chris is a founding member of UFA and has worked in the tax credit industry since 2004. As a principal, he is responsible for driving the overall strategy and direction of the company and serving as a liaison to key stakeholders. Mahalo for tuning in!

Episode Highlights

  • 1:01 About United Fund Advisors
  • 2:47 What is the New Markets Tax Credits (NMTC) Program?
  • 5:09 Education, Values and Impact
  • 6:23 Job Searching
  • 7:02 NMTCs at OEDB through Punawai O Puuhonua; How did you meet Uncle Pono and begin working with NMTCs in Hawaii?
  • 13:50 Continental US and Hawaii partnership
  • 14:18 Friendship with Pono
  • 15:48 Relational vs. Transactional Partnerships
  • 16:58 Aloha as an evolving word
  • 18:05 Pono's kidney donation
  • 19:24 Punawai o Puuhonua's projects across Hawaii
  • 22:22 NMTC and Community Impacts: quality jobs, commercial goods and services, social services - healthcare, education, minority owned businesses and indigenous communities, affordable housing, environmentally sustainable outcomes
  • 26:06 Favorite NMTC project: Community Transitional School in Portland, Oregon
  • 31:27 NMTC Conference and endless opportunity to uplift communities
  • 33:00 The catalytic effect of capital investment
  • 33:49 Do you have a dream NMTC project?
  • 35:18 After doing business in Hawaii for over ten years, are there things that have left an impression on you and/or changed how you do business?
  • 37:22 Friendship stories
  • 41:38 Growing a good team
  • 44:19 Chris: What does the "Above the Sides" podcast name mean?

Queen Liliuokalani quote: “I could not turn back the time for the political change, but there is still time to save our heritage. You must remember never to cease to act because you fear you may fail. The way to lose any earthly kingdom is to be inflexible, intolerant, and prejudicial. Another way is to be too flexible, tolerant of too many wrongs, and without judgment at all. It is a razor’s edge. It is the width of a blade of pili grass. To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.”

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Miki Tomita Okamoto is an educator, navigator, storyteller and student herself. Since April 2022, she has also been mindfully setting the foundation of the next chapter of the Aloha Response as Pono Shim's successor after his passing. In this episode, Miki, Roy Kimura and Molly Mamaril have a meaningful conversation that touches upon the many facets of what it means to be a practitioner of aloha in the modern day and how to honor Ponoʻs memory and wishes through the creation of the Mālama Pono Foundation. As many of you know, Miki is the founder and CEO of Education Incubator, a nonprofit that aims to uplift learners across the islands through innovation through aloha to support the dreamers, doers, entrepreneurs, academics, philosophers, voyagers, explorers, teachers and students across Hawaii.

*The format of this episode is slightly different than previous ones as the audio was pulled from a video interview with Miki (on camera) and Roy Kimura and Molly Mamaril (off camera). You will hear all three of their voices in an informal, behind-the-scenes interview. Mahalo for listening.

Conversation Highlights and Timestamps

  • 0:00 Introduction to the episode
  • 3:15 Who was Pono Shim?
  • 5:19 When did you first meet him?
  • 8:25 What did you see in him, in those early days?
  • 9:38 Was there a recognition of each other when you first met?
  • 12:51 When did people begin to seek him out?
  • 17:13 How did he know when it was time to share what he had been taught?
  • 18:33 Storytelling as medicine; Connection vs. correction
  • 22:41 Is there a story about your relationship with him that stays in your mind?
  • 30:44 How are you carrying the role of being the student of multiple teachers - including Pono Shim and Nainoa Thompson?
  • 35:55 What did he see as his purpose?
  • 37:06 Aloha as a key, as a personal practice; Ponoʻs willingness to live his life publicly
  • 39:34 What is your favorite Pono story? How he became his dadʻs shadow and learned about changemaking by watching the masters of personal relationships.
  • 43:21 Did he ever talk about what Aunty Pilahi Paki saw in him - how she singled him out?
  • 45:20 Aloha as a solo practice
  • 46:50 When feeling the Two Storms, we must still have aloha for ourselves. Ask, "Can I do this and still have a full heart?"
  • 50:37 The Malama Pono Foundation
  • 55:49 Growing the community of practice: "I want people to still be able to find him, to know him, and have a personal relationship with Pono Shim and his teachings"
  • 58:36 Ponoʻs Audiobook aspirations: "I want them to know him."
  • 1:00:20 Practicing self care
  • 1:01:55 What didn't we lose when Pono passed away?
  • 1:04:20 Aloha economics
  • 1:06:25 Aloha in business; What can we hope to accomplish with the Mālama Pono Foundation to challenge the status quo and create positive change?
  • 1:15:12 How can we engage the diaspora of residents leaving Hawaii in the aloha practice?
  • 1:19:31 What do you miss most about Pono?
  • 1:22:49 Was there a favorite meal that you shared together?
  • 1:23:40 Why did you create the Foundations of Aloha program?
  • 1:32:17 How did Uncle Pono feel about Foundations of Aloha?
  • 1:33:25 The Lilikoi Story
  • 1:39:42 Miki's childhood on Maui and her early spiritual exploration
  • 1:49:27 1976 - A defining year for Pono and Nainoa Thompson
  • 1:51:10 Aloha is also a canoe

Resource Links

  • Education Incubator and Foundations of Aloha
  • Mālama Pono Foundation
    • The Mālama Pono Foundation will perpetuate and grow Pono Shim’s vision of Hawaiʻi as a unique place of healing and source of the universal spirit of ALOHA for the world. The establishment and launch of the Foundation is led by Miki Tomita, Pono’s mentee, who is facilitating the curation of Pono’s work and other Hawaiʻi wisdom sources into resources for students and practitioners of ALOHA, past, present and future. Donations to support the launch of the foundation and its endeavors are currently being accepted through Education Incubator. Please contact MPF for more information: info@malamaponofoundation.org.

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In this episode, we had the joy of speaking with Heather Pierucki who shares insights from her life, career and experience as a student of Pono Shim. She is a therapist, clinical consultant, and managing partner of ChangeWorks which focuses on supporting agencies that service individuals managing houselessness, mental illness, substance use and poverty. Heather recalls how her initial meeting with Pono Shim like a reconnection, an instinctual knowing of the other. In our hour together, Heather shares stories of the many transitions in her life, from childhood, to choosing a career in therapy, to choosing her partner and moving to Hawaii. She also provides a powerful success story from her previous work with Helping Hands Hawaii which highlights how showing up with love and the right tools can truly help people in need. Mahalo nui for tuning in!

You can view Sims' and Heather's story from Helping Hands Hawaii here: https://vimeo.com/471520328?share=copy (Roy Kimura, 2017).

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In this episode, we welcome guest and Oahu Economic Development Board member, Tyler Tokioka, who was a close business confidant to Pono Shim. The Tokioka family has been a steadfast presence in the business community for generations, beginning with Tylerʻs grandfather Masayuki Tokioka, who founded Island Insurance in 1940. Grounded in similar values instilled in them by their families, he and Pono found common ground and a safe space to have meaningful conversations about how to do business with aloha and integrity. We discuss his journey from Hawaii to New York, his return to serve in the family business, economic development hopes for Hawaii and more. Mahalo for listening!

Learn more about the ways that Island Insurance gives back to Hawaii: https://www.islandinsurance.com/community/supporting-our-local-communities/

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Roy Kimura leads a meaningful career as a visual storyteller here in Hawaii. In this episode, he talks about his experience working as a director, writer and videographer, highlighting some of the pivotol moments that have influenced his professional path. Roy's stories are rooted in appreciation for the mentors who have contributed to his growth and learning. Most recently, Pono Shim played a key role in shaping his perspective as he experienced first-hand what it was like to be on the receiving end of connection, not correction. This, in turn, encouraged him to make more intentional decisions that prioritize people over task, despite operating in a fast-paced industry. One of the most powerful takeaways from this conversation was his call to action to listeners to record the stories of their loved ones: now is the time. Please see the podcast notes to enjoy the videos that showcase Roy's capacity to create stories that empower and uplift, several of which are mentioned in the episode. Mahalo nui!

Videos by Roy Kimura

  • Helping Hands Hawaii
  • Stories of Pono - Robbie Alm - "Start Now"
  • Stories of Pono - Robbie Alm - "Watch For The Connection"
  • Stories of Pono - Rachel Alm - "Ponoʻs Eulogy"
  • Keolamau Yee
  • Stories of Pono - Molly Mamaril - "We Give Attention"
  • Hawaiiʻs Food & Farmers - Hawaii Food Bank
  • Hawaiiʻs Food & Farmers - Hauula Tomatoes
  • Hawaiiʻs Food & Farmers - Sweet Land Farms
  • The Wisdom of Hawaiiʻs Elders - Oswald Stender
  • The Wisdom of Hawaiiʻs Elders - Eileen Lum

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Throughout his career, Scott Nishimoto has served as an advocate for equity and peace-building in Honolulu. He shares an array of stories about how his parents, partner and children have influenced his perception of aloha and valuing every person's experience when it comes to embracing the human condition. In his early days as a nonprofit executive, he met Pono Shim and that initial encounter led to years of friendship and growing to understand the power of storytelling. This podcast title, "Part of this World," is inspired by a movie song (you may know it!) that Pono shared with Scott. Enjoy Scott's powerful and humorous narrative. Mahalo! Learn more about Ceeds of Peace: https://www.ceedsofpeace.org/Read "Talking Hawaii's Story: Oral Histories of an Island People" edited by Michi Kodama-Nishimoto, Warren S. Nishimoto, and Cynthia A. Oshiro https://uhpress.hawaii.edu/title/talking-hawaiis-story-oral-histories-of-an-island-people/Interview originally recorded in November 2023.

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In this episode, Luella Costales, Rachel Alm and Molly Mamaril discuss what it was like to work closely with Uncle Pono, both personally and professionally, to capture the nuances of what his leadership looked like in a daily setting. The trio also discuss individual hana and the struggle that many students of the aloha response are feeling - how do we move forward confidently after receiving the baton from our mentor? Mahalo for tuning in as we kick off 2024!

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In this episode, we are fortunate to spend time talking story with Jason Mejia who serves as a Fire Captain with the Honolulu Fire Department. As he approaches his retirement this month, he reflects on his 27 years as a civil servant and his efforts to strive to be a conduit of aloha. Most recently, he was able to fulfill a goal of helping the Honolulu Fire Department establish "E Ohana Hou" as the foundation of the department's most recent strategic plan. As many listeners know, "E Ohana Hou" is one of Pono Shim's lessons of bringing your gifts to the world, unleashing them in perpetuity to contribute to the collective well-being of all. One of Jason's favorite lessons from Pono is: "Make the connection and the story will follow." We hope you find this to be a reflective and meaningful conversation. Mahalo! The "E Ohana Hou" video can be viewed here: https://www.oedb.biz/videosTo view Honolulu Fire Department Community Resources for fire safety and preparedness, please visit: https://fire.honolulu.gov/ and https://www.youtube.com/@HonoluluFireDepartment.

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Live Aloha. Living in Hawaii, many of us recognize the white bumper stickers with the ohia flower and have undoubtedly heard the "live aloha" phrase over the years. What is the backstory of this initiative and what does live aloha really mean? In this episode, we talk story with Rachel Alm to learn about the interesting behind-the-scenes details of the Live Aloha initiative which was established in 1993. As a child, Rachel was positively influenced by her parents, Robert and Cynthia Alm, as well as her father's friend, our dear Pono Shim. She recounts many Zippy's meals as a middle schooler, where she spent memorable time with him learning about aloha through his mentorship, years before he launched his first Aloha Response cohort. Rachel's awareness and personal aloha practice are a powerful embodiment of how to bring aloha into our everyday interactions with others and the greater community. Now as a young professional, she continues to contribute to the wellbeing of Hawaii - and beyond - from her home in Bend, Oregon. Learn more about the Live Aloha program and the 12 commitments:https://www.livealohakakou.org/https://www.livealohakakou.org/12-commitmentsEmail address: livealohahui@gmail.comMailing address: 165 Waokanaka Place, Honolulu, HI 96817@livealohakakou

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We welcome Cindi Heffner to this episode of "Above the Sides" in our first recording outside of Hawaiʻi. Cindi is the Kumu Hula of Haʻaheo O Hawaiʻi, a hula hālau based in Albuquerque, New Mexico where she has lived for many years. Cindi shares how she has maintained her spirit of aloha in all the places she has traveled to throughout her life and how her ʻohana, and many of our kama'āina (children of the land), have found home in new places as part of the Hawaiian diaspora. 2020 Census data indicated that more than half of all Native Hawaiians, roughly 370,000 people, now live in the continental U.S. This highlights a growing economic trend due to the high cost of living and housing and job opportunity limitations. Our discussion centers around how aloha can live beyond Hawaiʻi through its people - and that home can also be in your heart. We hope that you find Cindi's story compelling and uplifting. “In the 21st century, the world will search for peace and they’ll look to Hawaii because Hawaii has the key and that key is Aloha.” - Pilahi Paki

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Have you ever wondered where our trash goes after the dump trucks make their rounds? In this episode, we are thrilled to have Henry Gabriel, a veteran solid waste manager, give us a Trash 101 lesson on everything that happens to the waste in our grey, blue and green bins. It is clear from his stories that he loves his job and is sharing his gift with Hawaiʻi - helping us better manage our garbage. Henry shares about the four R's: reduce, reuse, recycle and repair and how leaning in to the resourcefulness of previous generations can help us build resilience today. We hope you enjoy Henryʻs engaging stories and his tips on how share aloha with our island home in tangible ways, beginning with our very own trash bins. To learn more about the City and County of Honolulu solid waste management or the Tour de Trash, please visit: https://www.honolulu.gov/opala.

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Shawn Uehira joins us in this episode of "Above the Sides" to share about her experience integrating Hawaiian values into her relationships, life, work and education. Shawn was a former employee at Oʻahu Economic Development Board after graduating from college and in our discussion she highlights some of her experiences with Uncle Pono Shim and how she continues to weave his teachings into everyday decisions through finding lōkahi (harmony, unity, unbrokenness). As a graduate student at Chaminade University, Shawn also co-authored a book, Hawaiian Values for Future Leaders, which focuses on leadership development for island organizations. Enjoy!

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We are fortunate to welcome Ryden Iwamoto to this episode of "Above the Sides." As a rising second-year college student and an OEDB board member, Ryden shares with us his hopes for Hawaiʻiʻs future, his path to studying Economics and Data Science at the University of Chicago and his intention to live out Pono Shim's teachings, especially the notion of "connection, not correction." He discusses what a thriving Hawaiʻi economy could look like and how he aspires to return home to Hawaiʻi after his studies. We hope you find this talk story interview insightful and meaningful. Enjoy!

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In this episode, Ashley Ono shares about her path to the aloha response and how it has influenced her personal and professional approach to people and healing. As a medical doctor, she has explored her own mindfulness practice with bravery and continues to explore how her hana, her gifts, can best serve the community in a fulfilling and life giving manner.

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Uncle George Kon is a longtime friend of the aloha cohorts as well as co-founder of the Alliance for Drama Education and T-Shirt Theater. In this episode, we are happy to welcome him to ʻAbove the Sides" to talk about the many stories from his forty years of spending time with Farrington High School students as they "rehearse for life." We hope you enjoy this conversation about bringing kindness and inclusivity to all we do and embracing those aha! moments that happen throughout the theater of our lives. Mahalo for listening.

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In this episode, we welcome three news guests, Eric Takahata, Randy Baldemor and OEDB team member, Luella Costales to reflect on the power of connection and how the language of aloha is universal. Several years ago through their work in the local hospitality industry, Randy and Eric traveled to one of Hawaiʻi's sister countries, Japan, with the late Pono Shim. We discuss their experiences abroad and how by leaning on the connections that bind our two nations, Hawaiʻi can serve as an example of regenerative tourism. The episode ends with an audio recording of Pono sharing about a presentation that he gave in Japan that highlights the many similarities that forever connect the people of Hawaiʻi and the people Japan. Episode time stamps:1:55 Interview with Randy, Eric and Luella on the power of connection 56:30 Molly transitions to the audio recording of Pono Shim57:09 Pono Shim on how Japan and Hawaiʻi are mirrors of one another (Zoom audio, recorded 2020)

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Sarah Guay serves as a Board Member with the Oahu Economic Development Board and we are thrilled to share her interview with you. Upon meeting Sarah, it is clear that she lives with kindness and intention, both personally and professionally. Listeners will feel her refreshing honesty and humor shine through her stories. The catalyst for this episode was OEDB intern, Jonah Tiwanak, and his recent college graduation which prompted his curiosity about how to kickstart his career in a meaningful way. Jonah and OEDB staffer, Molly Mamaril, interview Sarah about life transitions, finding our grounding in the workplace, and looking for the lessons in our struggles. Sarahʻs expertise as a Human Resources professional and a student of aloha can serve as a touch point for anyone seeking to find value alignment in their work and a place to belong.

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Josh Parker, Logan Yogi, and Lauren and Allison Saunders join the conversation in this episode, "Passing the Mic to Tomorrow's Leaders". Each of them has participated in the Center of Tomorrow's Leaders youth leadership program and have met Pono Shim through their experience. They share their observations of leadership rooted in aloha, insights from their time in the program and their hopes for the future of Hawaii in this talk story session. Enjoy!

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"Reference vs. Reverence" is all about grounding in authenticity and truly living the values that we say we do.

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To be human is to experience all the elements of the human condition, including physical health and mental health issues. In this episode, Pono Shim aims to de-stigmatize talking about mental health issues openly. He reiterates that is possible to improve the economics of our lives by being resources for one another through respect and support.

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In this episode, we welcome Sage Goto, the Family Strengthening & Violence Prevention Unit Supervisor with the Hawaii Department of Health. He is a student of aloha and an observant father, son and Oahu community member. After much self-reflection and humorous recollection, Sage shares several personal stories about his journey to help perpetuate meaningful family traditions rooted in aloha.

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In Hawaiʻi, when you name someone, you name them with a hope, a vision, an aspiration, or to honor a relationship. In this episode, Pono Shim shares an encounter he had that prompted him to think about renaming the Millenial generation to give value to the resource that they are as they tackle the responsibilities handed to them by their parents' generation.

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Phrasing can be incredibly important. In this episode, Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril talk about the phrase, "low hanging fruit" and its implications on our potential. Pono also discusses how adopting Queen Kapiolani's motto of "kulia i ka nuu" (to strive for the summit) can foster personal growth.

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In this episode, Pono Shim discusses the the perception of fearlessness. In his own life, he shares how it is really fierceness that helps him take action to make change through aloha. By letting go of societal conventions such as agendas, time constraints and expectations we may see the true potential of an opportunity when it presents itself.

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This episode is dedicated to all the students graduating in Spring 2021. Congratulations! We honor you and your efforts to better Hawaii and the world. This story is a favorite of many of Pono Shim's students so at the request of others, we made it into a podcast episode. The original script is from Pono's Chaminade University commencement speech in 2018.

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Allison Saunders and Tyler Mejia share their insights from their experience serving as interns for the Oahu Economic Development Board.

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With endless requests from individuals and companies asking for advice about how to begin doing business in Hawaii, Pono Shim shares stories that emphasize the importance of intention, knowing your community and earning confidence.

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This episode is a short addendum to the previous episode. Enjoy!

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What does it mean to pass the mic? In this episode, Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril discuss the importance of being present and giving attention to all voices, but especially youth voices. Pono shares a story of how one happenstance encounter to honor a young man's poetry lead to friendships and eventually a large-scale business opportunity for Hawaii.

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In this episode, we explore the idea of letting go of our expectations for certain outcomes; resting in the uncertainty of a situation can be a space of growth and understanding instead of anxiety. Pono Shim shares two stories about the "bully pidgeons" and "waking the sleeping bear" which provide listeners with lessons that can be applied to scenarios we find ourselves in in everyday life.

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Pono Shim shares about the powerful influence that stories have - that they themselves can serve as medicine. The right story for the right person can be very healing and could allow an individual to recognize how to overcome their own trauma.

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The Oahu Economic Development Board offers a unique approach to regenerative economic development in Hawaii and emphasizes the importance of relationships, not transactions, in business.

Learn more about the Oahu Economic Development Board at: https://www.oedb.biz/