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To help raise well-rounded young men and women who know they are loved by God, one church has created a focus on MASS: Mental, Athletic, Spiritual, and Social. Brian Kelly from Northside Church in Liverpool, NY joins Sam on the show to discuss how his church has used MASS to engage families in their community.

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Josh and Sam discuss why churches should still believe in short-term mission trips when they are approached with the right biblical purpose and practical care. While these trips are sometimes criticized for being expensive, shallow, or more about the travelers than the mission field, they can still be powerful tools for gospel partnership, spiritual growth, and leadership development. When done well, short-term trips do not replace long-term missions. They support and strengthen missions, and help churches cultivate a deeper heart for the nations.

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Pastors often look to the book of Nehemiah for practical lessons on leadership. However, in times of rebuilding and revitalization, we should not overlook the book of Ezra, with its story of the rebuilding of the temple. Ken Roach, Vice President of Innovation at Wesley Biblical Seminary, joins Sam to share the three “royal decrees” found there and how they translate into leadership principles every rebuilder needs to consider.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore how pastors can prepare their churches for one of the most strategic ministry seasons of the year: back-to-school. As families shift routines, students face new pressures, and parents feel the weight of another busy season, churches have a unique opportunity to serve, encourage, and disciple. A strong back-to-school plan is not about adding more activity to the calendar. It is about aligning ministries, equipping volunteers, and intentionally supporting parents as they lead their homes through a demanding season.

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The 1990s may have been the most pivotal decade for religious change in modern America. In this episode, we look at Ryan Burge’s analysis of young adults and the sharp rise of the religiously unaffiliated during those years. The surprising part of the story is that no single Christian tradition collapsed on its own. Evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Black Protestants, and Catholics all lost ground, while church attendance also weakened. The result was not just a momentary shift but a long-term realignment that still shapes the religious landscape today.

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Only 1% of churches have an ongoing emphasis on evangelism. Josh and Sam break down what successful evangelistic churches actually do.

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Sam talks with Mike Stadelmayer at Church Growth Services about the harm a failed campaign can do and how to avoid those failures.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam tackle a question many pastors quietly wrestle with: Should I respond to that post… or just scroll past it? Social media makes it easy to jump into theological skirmishes and digital debates, but Scripture calls pastors to something higher than winning arguments. Online quarrels often produce more heat than light, drain emotional energy, and distract from the real work of shepherding people face-to-face. While there is a time to contend for the faith, most comment-section fights are poor stewardship and rarely change hearts. Sometimes the most pastoral response is silence... and logging off.

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As more churches struggle to find qualified pastors, the future of church hiring is changing fast. In this episode, Thom and Sam explore what pastor shortages mean for congregations, why old search processes are becoming less effective, and how churches can adapt with greater clarity, flexibility, and realism. The conversation focuses on practical ways churches can rethink staffing, develop internal leaders, and build healthier expectations for the next generation of pastors.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore a subtle but damaging leadership style in the church: the amiable autocrat. These are leaders who are friendly, well-liked, and often effective on the surface, yet they lead primarily through positional authority and leave their teams frustrated. We unpack the paradox of the “nice dictator” and why this leadership style can produce visible ministry success while quietly undermining staff health and long-term effectiveness.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam tackle a growing challenge for churches across the country: finding qualified staff. What once seemed routine—posting a position and waiting for candidates—has become far more difficult. This conversation explores why the staffing pipeline has narrowed, how outdated assumptions are exacerbating the problem, and why churches that rethink staffing models and develop leaders internally will be better positioned for the future.

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Happy 250th America! Josh and Sam get political on this episode.

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In this episode, Ryan Burge and Sam explore the rise of non-denominational Christianity and ask a provocative question: are non-denoms essentially just Southern Baptists without the label? Drawing on recent survey data, this conversation examines how non-denominational Christians compare to America’s largest Christian traditions in age, racial diversity, church attendance, and views of the Bible. The trends suggest that non-denominational churches are not simply a rebranded version of older evangelical traditions. They may represent a significant part of the future of American Protestantism.

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Many churches are asking the same question: “Where have all the student pastors gone?” In this episode, Josh and Sam explore the ongoing shortage of youth ministers and the structural reasons behind it.

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Many pastors feel it every year: “I hate summer attendance!” In this episode, Thom and Sam unpack real-world insights gathered from conversations with pastors across the country about the predictable, and sometimes preventable, summer slump.

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Every church has them—the Sundays when attendance predictably drops. Drawing from feedback from over 400 church leaders, Josh and Sam break down the most common low-attendance days and why they occur.

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Sam welcomes Dr. Nijay Gupta to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. He is a senior translator for the New Living Translation, a Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary, and the author of several academic books including most recently A Beginner's Guide to New Testament Studies and Tell Her Story. He has a PhD in New Testament from the University of Durham, and co-hosts the Slow Theology podcast with A. J. Swoboda.

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Summer often exposes a quiet reality in many churches: some members begin shopping for a new congregation. In this episode, Josh and Sam address why this happens and how leaders should respond. If you’ve faced it, you are not alone. Every long-tenured pastor has.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam explore one of the most sobering questions church leaders face: Why do formerly active members quietly disappear for good? After years of research with people who once attended faithfully but haven’t returned to any church for at least two years, clear patterns emerge. Most departures aren’t dramatic or theological. They’re gradual.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore what sets apart pastors who stay at one church for ten, twenty, or even thirty years and still lead with energy and joy. Long-tenured pastors aren’t just “hanging on.” They’ve built habits that sustain both their soul and their ministry. They’ve weathered criticism, resisted the lure of greener grass, and chosen faithfulness over constant movement.

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Sam interviews Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group. A growing number of church leaders, architects, and donors are reconsidering what sacred space should look like. In this episode, we explore the rise of the hyper-traditionalist movement in church architecture—a revival of classical, Gothic, Romanesque, Byzantine, and other historic styles that aim to communicate permanence, beauty, and theological depth. While this movement is still niche in North America, it is more than an aesthetic preference. It reflects a broader conviction that church buildings should feel unmistakably sacred rather than utilitarian or disposable.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam use a striking metaphor to talk about church health: fault lines and tsunamis. Just like unseen shifts beneath the ocean floor can trigger devastating waves, hidden weaknesses inside a church can quietly build until the damage is sudden and overwhelming. The good news? Fault lines can be repaired before disaster strikes. The call for leaders is simple: face reality now, simplify ministry, refocus on mission, and deal with issues while they’re still manageable.

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In this episode, we break down Ryan Burge’s demographic analysis of American Protestant churches and the uncomfortable math behind membership decline. Using age-distribution data across major denominations, Burge argues many churches aren’t stable—they’re simply being “buoyed by the Baby Boomers.” With modal ages in the late 60s, shrinking numbers of young adults, and fewer children in the pipeline, many groups are approaching a demographic tipping point. Decline won’t be gradual; it will feel slow and then sudden. Unless leaders plan now, some denominations could lose 30–50% of their adult members over the next couple of decades. The message is clear: this isn’t a theological or programmatic problem. It’s an actuarial problem, and the clock is already ticking.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam address a widespread reality in many churches: bloated membership rolls and shrinking attendance. Across North America, millions of names remain on church rolls even though those people haven’t attended in months... or years. In some cases, membership lists are four or five times larger than actual weekly worship attendance. The result? Confusion, unhealthy metrics, and weakened accountability. A growing number of congregations are rethinking the issue: clarifying expectations, tightening processes, and distinguishing between truly inactive members and those with legitimate life circumstances.

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For decades, 11:00 a.m. was the “sacred hour” of church life—the assumed, unquestioned start time for Sunday worship. But that era is fading fast. In this episode, Thom and Sam unpack the data and on-the-ground observations showing how churches are rethinking when they gather. From earlier services to multiple options to non-Sunday gatherings, flexibility is replacing tradition. What once served an agrarian culture no longer fits modern family rhythms. Growing churches are adapting their schedules to remove barriers and create more on-ramps for attendance.

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When a crisis hits a church, the first few hours can either build trust or break it. In this episode, Sam interviews crisis communication expert Amy Whitfield and walks through what to say (and not say) immediately after a church crisis. We talk about the first statement, the first 24 hours, and the common missteps that unintentionally escalate confusion, fear, or anger. Amy offers practical language that pastors and church leaders can actually use, along with guardrails for accuracy and accountability, especially when facts are still developing.

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Churches that are laser-focused on these five commitments tend to experience a continuous cycle of healthy church growth, while churches that allow the urgency of the moment to distract them from these commitments tend to experience decline. Thom and Sam discuss the new book, "Crucial Commitments."

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Josh and Sam discuss what makes an ideal church member from the pastor's perspective. They pull some descriptions from some of their favorite members and talk about what they love about them.

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While some church power struggles stem from bad actors, a more common cause is blurred lines. In this episode, Thom and Sam tackle one of the most common sources of church dysfunction: confusion between what the board should do and what the staff should do.

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Josh and Sam have a little fun and pull back the curtain on some personal quirks of pastors.

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Institutional trust has collapsed nationwide across all age groups, but Gen Z is entering adulthood at historically low levels of trust toward institutions and toward other people. Yet there is a surprising glimmer of hope when it comes to religious institutions. Compared to Millennials, Gen Z shows slightly more openness to trusting the church, suggesting the story is not over. On this edition of The Burge Report, we discuss what pastors and churches can do to build bridges with Gen Z.

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Many Christians feel uneasy simply throwing away a damaged or worn Bible. While there are no official rules, Josh and Sam discuss several thoughtful and reverent ways to handle a copy of Scripture that has served its purpose.

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Ministry today and in the future will necessitate more co-vocational pastors and church leaders. What about full-time pastors who need to supplement their income? A side job may relieve financial pressure, expand skills, and create meaningful community connections outside the church. However, it can also be a distraction and create divided attention.

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On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss some critical functions of their work as pastors that are not included in the typical church job description.

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Churches rarely maintain success in a single ministry for 25 years, but one church has figured it out. In this episode, Sam sits down with Upward Sports Ambassador Donnie Sisk from First Baptist Church Pelham in Pelham, Alabama. For more than 25 years, Donnie has used sports ministry—especially basketball—to connect with families and share the gospel. His church now hosts a thriving league with over 170 players, creating a strong bridge to the community. Recently, Donnie added pickleball, discovering that its smaller, more relational format opens the door to deeper conversations and intentional discipleship. Donnie shares how recreation can move beyond programs and become a powerful pathway for outreach, relationships, and life change.

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Josh and Sam have a personal conversation about the ways they are intentionally working to keep their marriages healthy.

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Though there have certainly been more difficult times in the course of church history for pastors, leading a church today is much tougher than it was 20 and 30 years ago. There have been some demographic and cultural shifts that reflect this reality. But some of the challenges can only be understood in the context of spiritual warfare. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss six reasons why pastors must be more courageous today.

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In this tongue-in-cheek episode, Josh and Sam discuss their top annoyances as pastors. Everyone has their pet peeves, and the co-hosts share theirs.

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In this episode, Ryan Burge and Sam examine newly released national survey data that reveal a significant shift in how young adults understand and report gender identity. Drawing on high-quality data from the Cooperative Election Study, the research shows a clear and statistically meaningful decline in the share of 18–22-year-olds identifying as transgender since 2020, with similar downward trends appearing across older age cohorts as well.

While 2020 appears to be a high-water mark, likely shaped by unique social and cultural conditions during the pandemic, subsequent years show a “snap back” toward a lower baseline. The discussion also explores how transgender identification intersects with politics, education, and religiosity, noting substantial declines among young Democrats and among religious young adults.

For church leaders, this episode offers an important reminder: cultural narratives move quickly, but long-term ministry requires patience, clarity, and compassion. Understanding real data, rather than headlines, helps churches respond with both truth and grace.

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Lead pastors often provide management oversight of staff. But should they know what church staff give to the church? Josh and Sam break down the arguments on both sides, examine potential safeguards, and discuss how church culture and pastoral character shape the best approach.

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How does a church grow without relying on people transferring from other congregations? Thom and Sam take a dive into this topic.

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One of the biggest mistakes church leaders can make is assuming that abuse won’t happen in their churches. The belief that “it can’t happen here” is dangerously naïve. Any organization that works with children and other vulnerable individuals can be a target for predators. Satan specifically aims to attack churches and seeks to harm children and vulnerable people. Josh and Sam discuss this very important topic of safety.

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If your church cares about reaching the next generation, there’s an upstream strategy that strengthens every part of ministry: investing in marriages. Children’s and youth ministries matter deeply, but without discipling the parents who shape the spiritual culture of the home, churches often work harder than they need to. When marriages grow in grace, stability fills the home, volunteers serve with joy, teens show up more open, and the entire church experiences deeper unity. Brad Rhoads of Grace Marriage joins Sam on this episode. They explore why marriage discipleship isn’t just another ministry. It’s the source that feeds every other stream of church life, creating a generational ripple effect of gospel impact.

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Are aging churches a real problem? The US population has a median age of 39 years old. Most denominations have a median age of congregants close to 60 years old. Josh and Sam discuss why churches are a generation older than their surrounding communities. What are the implications of the aging trend in churches?

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Big events can be a way for churches to reach people, but they often fail to draw people back once the event is done. Thom and Sam unpack what it actually takes to turn community events into gospel opportunities.

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Josh and Sam talk about the rising tide of gambling addiction in the U.S., fueled by the explosion of online betting and sports wagering. With millions of adults and youth affected, and billions lost in social and personal costs, the issue is quickly becoming a pastoral and congregational challenge. This episode highlights the scope of the crisis, why it’s escalating, and how the church can respond with clarity, compassion, and practical care.

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While big cities often dominate attention and resources, it is the small towns and rural communities where congregations are disappearing fastest and where the church’s presence is most at risk. Thom and Sam explore why revitalizing and supporting small churches is essential for the future of Christian witness and how these congregations uniquely embody relational, community-anchoring ministry that larger models simply cannot replicate.

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Josh and Sam tackle a growing and uncomfortable reality for pastors: what to do when one of your own church members becomes an online troll. The cohosts explore how to discern genuine critics from disruptive trolls, protect your church’s unity and safety, and lead with grace even when someone is trying to provoke you publicly.

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Only one denomination in the United States has grown consistently. Drawing from nearly fifty years of data, Ryan Burge’s analysis shows a denomination that has not only maintained stability but also demonstrated resilience, growth, and demographic vitality. From membership and attendance trends to conversion inflows and racial diversity, the Assemblies of God presents a statistical profile that is almost entirely positive, even after the shock of COVID-19. While many traditions wrestle with long-term decline, the Assemblies of God appears poised for continued strength.

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Is the strength of our prayer life really measured in minutes? And what if shorter, consistent rhythms of prayer throughout the day lead to a more sustainable, joyful connection with God? In this episode, Josh and Sam explore how pastors and church leaders can cultivate a meaningful prayer life without tying their spiritual health to a stopwatch.

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Thom and Sam interview Dr. Andy Miller, the president of Wesley Biblical Seminary, to explore what every potential seminary student needs to consider before enrolling. While seminary can provide clarity and theological depth, it is not a magic formula for ministry success. This discussion breaks down the practical steps every prospective student should consider.

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Most nonprofit organizations have clear visibility into donor activity: who gives, how often, and how much. But churches often treat data on giving very differently. Should pastors know who is giving in their churches? Josh and Sam take a fresh look at this sensitive and often misunderstood topic.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam shine a light on a trend few church leaders see: the silent exodus of senior adults. While much attention is given to reaching Millennials and Gen Z, an equally significant group is slowly drifting away: older adults who once formed the backbone of many congregations. Their departure isn’t loud or dramatic. It’s subtle: an empty pew, a missing volunteer, a longtime member who quietly stops attending.

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Josh and Sam discuss the best way to handle Super Bowl Sunday. Should churches say anything about it? Play into the day with gimmicks to increase attendance? What's the best approach?

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A surprisingly high number of churchgoers attend because someone simply invited them. In this episode, Sam and Thom unpack why 60% might be the most overlooked and powerful number in church outreach today.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore what happens when a church becomes discouraged and how God restores hope in a congregation that feels stuck, tired, or overwhelmed. Discouragement drains energy, distorts reality, and slowly turns a church inward. Encouragement is both spiritual and strategic. It starts with leaders who refuse to catastrophize and instead cast vision. Pessimists predict failure. Realists describe what is. But optimistic, faith-filled leaders show what could be.

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In 2006, Simple Church encouraged churches to streamline programming, clarify discipleship pathways, and focus on moving people toward spiritual maturity rather than filling calendars with activities. The book had a significant impact, shaping how thousands of pastors thought about ministry systems and structure. Nearly two decades later, Thom and Sam take a fresh look: What principles stood the test of time? What challenges emerged in practice? And how should churches apply Simple Church today in a ministry landscape that’s more complex, digital, and post-pandemic than ever?

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Letting a staff member go is one of the hardest leadership moments a pastor will ever face. Churches are relational environments, and employment decisions are deeply personal. But there are times when releasing someone is the most loving, wise, and responsible step—for the staff member, for the team, and for the health of the church. In this episode, Josh and Sam talk through how to navigate this complex process with clarity, compassion, and integrity.

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In this episode, we look at Ryan Burge’s latest analysis showing how the modern Democratic coalition is being pulled apart by widening religious divides. While Republicans continue to draw support from a largely Christian voter base, Democrats now include two groups with opposite religious profiles: highly secular white voters and deeply religious voters of color. This creates major messaging and policy tensions within the party, tensions that didn’t exist at the same scale in earlier decades.

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As churches grow, leaders often reach a tipping point where the senior pastor can no longer carry the full weight of vision, preaching, pastoral care, administration, staff oversight, and organizational leadership. That’s when the question arises: Is it time to hire an Executive Pastor? In this episode, Josh and Sam unpack what an Executive Pastor actually does, why this role has become more common across church sizes, and how to know whether your church is ready for one.

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Many are tired of online worship. What happened? When the pandemic forced churches online, digital worship seemed like the future. Congregations grew virtually, and pastors reached audiences they never imagined. But five years later, that momentum has faded. The church is discovering what technology can—and cannot—do for worship. On this episode, Thom and Sam explore why online engagement has declined and how churches can find balance between digital convenience and in-person community.

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Every pastor has seen it. Churches splitting hairs over things that don’t matter. Beard length. Carpet color. Playground equipment. These disputes may sound absurd, but they reveal something much deeper. Small conflicts are rarely about what they seem. Beneath the surface, emotions, control, and trust are at play. In this episode, Josh and Sam explore why trivial fights erupt in churches, what they reveal about church health, and how leaders can keep the small stuff from becoming spiritual landmines.

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Church attendance is both a helpful tool and a potential trap. Numbers can reveal momentum, but they can also distort priorities if leaders focus on counting heads instead of making disciples. In this episode, Thom and Sam unpack the healthy and unhealthy ways to measure worship attendance, and how pastors can move from chasing growth to cultivating spiritual health.

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Most New Year’s resolutions focus inward on personal growth, habits, and goals. On this episode, Josh and Sam challenge church leaders to flip the script on traditional resolutions by making them about the people you serve, not yourself. Instead of trying to become a better version of you, resolve to make those around you better.

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Nearly five years after COVID-19 lockdowns, the research reveals surprising truths about how Americans engage with church online and what that means for pastors and ministry leaders.

While 91% of churches now livestream services, only about 14% of Americans watch weekly. Most online viewers are also in-person attenders, meaning livestreams tend to serve already-committed believers rather than reaching the unchurched. The dream of a large “online-only” congregation just doesn’t match the numbers. In this episode of the Burge Report, Ryan, Thom, and Sam give their key takeaways.

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The week after Christmas—those quiet days between December 26 and New Year’s—is often the lightest week of the year for pastors. After weeks of preparing Advent services, coordinating Christmas Eve worship, managing volunteers, and caring for members in a season that’s both joyful and emotionally draining, pastors finally exhale.

This week isn’t about laziness; it’s about recovery. The adrenaline of December ministry fades, the calendar clears, and the phone stops ringing. Even the most active church members are traveling, resting, or spending time with family. For once, the pastor doesn’t have to be “on.” Josh and Sam discuss why this week is so light and so important.

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Thom and Sam dive into Ryan Burge’s latest analysis of the 2023–2024 Pew Religious Landscape Survey, which asked nearly 37,000 Americans a simple question: “How happy are you with your life these days?” The results reveal one of the clearest and most consistent findings in social science. Religious people report being happier than non-religious people.

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Churches help prepare couples for marriage and rescue them when things fall apart, but what happens in between? That middle space—the “fine zone”—is where most couples slowly drift while everyone assumes they’re okay.

The truth is, fine isn’t faithfulness. It’s fatigue. And most churches don’t have a plan for discipling marriages before they reach the breaking point. Sam interviews Brad Rhoads of Grace Marriage to find out more. Grace Marriage is helping churches change that by creating pathways for ongoing marriage discipleship, not just crisis care.

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For decades, seminaries have promoted the ideal—full-time, on-campus study in a traditional academic setting. But for most adults pursuing ministry training, that ideal simply isn’t practical. New research reveals a clear tension between what people would love to do and what they can realistically manage. Theological education thrives when schools position themselves as a bridge between the ideal and the practical, maintaining depth and quality while removing unnecessary barriers. Sam interviews Dr. Andy Miller, from Wesley Biblical Seminary, about four key points shaping the future of seminary enrollment.

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In this follow-up episode, we examine the other side of the conversation—the rise of big-box church architecture. Often found in converted retail spaces or new multipurpose campuses, these designs emphasize functionality, flexibility, and accessibility. They reflect a different theology of space, one that prioritizes mission, efficiency, and comfort over formality. Sam interviews Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group.

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In this episode, we explore why traditional church architecture still resonates deeply with people, even those who rarely attend church. A recent research project found that 90% of Americans want church buildings to be "easily identifiable." Sam interviews Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group to find out more.

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When a major donor or key financial supporter leaves a church, it can feel personal, unsettling, and even threatening to the ministry’s stability. But pastoral leadership during this moment matters immensely. On this episode, Josh and Sam walk through the practical steps pastors should take when the church’s largest giver steps away. There is a 15% to 30% annual "churn rate" in just about every church. At some point, the biggest giver will be the one who exits.

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God has done something remarkable at First Baptist Church in Caldwell, NJ. They have limited space and limited parking. However, through Upward Sports, the church has developed a large outreach ministry within the community. Hundreds of children participate, and the church is reaching people from diverse backgrounds. Sam interviews Pastor Travis Clark to reveal exactly what happened.

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Most of the time, church hopping for convenience (better music, cooler programs, or a coffee bar) reveals more about our consumer culture than about spiritual growth. But Sam and Josh explain that there are also good, biblical, and even necessary reasons to leave one church for another.

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In this episode, Sam and Ryan Burge discuss how pastors become pastors. Using data from the National Survey of Religious Leaders, the cohosts reveal that clergy often come to ministry through winding, unconventional paths—many after careers in other fields. Far from being single-focused, pastors frequently juggle multiple responsibilities: leading congregations, working as chaplains, and even holding non-ministry jobs. The numbers reveal both the beauty and burden of this calling: most clergy work 50+ hours a week, with a quarter clocking over 60. Yet despite financial pressures and demanding schedules, these leaders remain deeply committed to serving their communities and churches.

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One of the more painful aspects of ministry is losing church members. Sometimes these departures are for good reasons, like moving to another town or planting a church. More often than not, pastors struggle with the reasons why people leave. Josh and Sam discuss why pastors experience pain with the loss of members, and they explore some ways to cope with the accompanying sadness.

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In this episode, Sam interviews Tim Byer, pastor of FAITH in Glen Burnie, MD, to hear how his congregation is making a real impact in their community. Pastor Tim shares the story of how his church began using VisitorReach, a tool designed to connect churches with first-time guests and neighbors. What started as a simple outreach effort has become a powerful way to build relationships, welcome new families, and share the hope of Christ in Baltimore.

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In this episode, Sam interviews Michael Kelley of the Rooted Network. They discuss three essentials that every great small group leader should consistently practice. These simple but powerful habits can transform any group into a place of authentic community and spiritual growth.

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The reality is that growing generosity doesn’t require a big program or complex strategy. It requires simplicity. Specifically, one simple principle: communicate, communicate, communicate, communicate. Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Sam on the show to discuss some simple ways you can grow generosity in your church.

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Why don’t unchurched people attend church? It’s not because they’re mad or too busy. The top reason is simple: they just don’t see the point. Indifference is the enemy of engagement. In today’s episode, Josh and Sam share why that’s actually good news—and how the combination of spiritual conviction and a personal invitation can break through the apathy.

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Since 2000, one of the most reliable sources of data on congregations in America has been the Faith Communities Today study, often referred to as FACT. It’s been conducted every five years, with the most recent survey in 2023 representing tens of thousands of congregations across every major faith tradition.

The FACT research gives us a clear picture of what the ‘typical’ church looks like over time. And here’s one of the most striking trends: in 2000, the median church in America had 137 people in attendance at weekly worship services. By 2023, that number had dropped to just 60. Today, Sam and Thom will talk about what that shift means for pastors, leaders, and the future of congregations.

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Sam Rainer interviews Tim Cool of Smart Church Solutions to dig into a hidden but pressing crisis facing many North American churches: deferred maintenance. Too often, churches delay costly but necessary facility repairs until the problems become overwhelming. This pattern of neglect can saddle pastors with impossible burdens and even push congregations toward closure. Yet, church buildings remain vital assets for kingdom work, providing gathering spaces, anchoring communities, and making ministry possible. We’ll explore both the challenges of sticker shock and practical strategies for churches to get ahead of the curve—budgeting wisely, prioritizing projects, and cultivating generosity that keeps facilities vibrant for generations.

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Sam and Ryan Burge take a deep dive into the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), unpacking the denomination’s unique growth patterns, size distribution, and robust recordkeeping. They explore surprising statistics on membership trends, baptisms, and church finances—revealing why some PCA congregations thrive while others remain stagnant. The co-hosts highlight key takeaways for understanding both the strengths and challenges of one of America’s most data-rich evangelical denominations.

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Many pastors and church leaders face a common challenge: how to develop an effective communications strategy when you don't have a big team to help you. Julie Masson, church communications expert, joins Sam on the show to discuss a simple, repeatable approach to managing church communications without burning out. You'll learn how to build a messaging calendar around the predictable rhythms of church life—like Easter, Christmas, and the fall ministry launch—and how that calendar can help you stay ahead, reduce stress, and communicate with clarity and consistency. With this plan, you will hear fewer comments like “I didn't hear about that” and more comments like “thanks for letting me know.”

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Sam welcomes Amanda Jass to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Amanda serves as the general editor for the NLT GO Bible and is a gifted writer, editor, illustrator, and encourager. She has a passion for creating content for all ages, with a special focus on resources for kids and families.

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There are many underappreciated people in your church. If you are in leadership, you must ensure they receive the proper recognition, encouragement, and resources. Josh and Sam discuss several groups that fly under the radar but are critical to everyday ministry.

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Thom and Sam welcome David Green, founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby, and Bill High, CEO of Legacy Stone, to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Hobby Lobby employs 50,000 people at 1,000 stores in 48 states and grosses nearly $8 billion a year.

Author of "The Legacy Life," "Leadership Not by the Book," and "The Leader's Devotional," Green received the World Changer award and the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. David, his wife, Barbara, and their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren all live in Oklahoma City.

Legacy Stone is a ministry dedicated to helping families thrive today and for generations to come. A former attorney, Bill also founded one of the largest charitable foundations in the country where they facilitated more than $6 billion in gifts. He has consulted with families on a global basis on the subject of family legacy. A recognized speaker and teacher, he is the author and coauthor of several books, including "Leadership Not by the Book." He lives with his wife, Brooke, in the Kansas City area.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore five practical ways pastors can use AI to improve their sermon prep. How should you balance being efficient with being ethical? If you’ve ever stared at a rough draft and thought, “Something’s off,” this episode will give you new ways to sharpen your message and preach with clarity.

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Most unchurched people have some past connection to church—often from childhood. Our research found that 63% of the unchurched used to attend regularly. Their current indifference isn’t based on ignorance; it’s often rooted in real, past experiences. This means our efforts to reach them aren't starting from zero. In this episode, Thom and Sam unpack what it means to engage the "dechurched"—those who’ve drifted away—and why this group might be more receptive than you think.

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It's easy to focus on what is right in front of you—the fires, the squeaky wheel, the pop-in visit. However, a pure reactive management style does not help a church move forward. Josh and Sam discuss some meetings that take initiative but will pay many dividends.

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From diapers to dating, parenting never stops presenting hard questions. But today’s concern is different: Gen Z teens are experiencing a full-blown collapse in social connection. Dating is down. Friend time is down. Jobs are down. According to Monitoring the Future, the percentage of antisocial high school seniors quintupled from 3.5% in 1995 to nearly 16% in 2022. But here’s the twist: the one group that remained more socially engaged? Teens who attend church monthly. In today’s episode, Ryan, Thom, and Sam unpack the surprising role of religion in keeping kids socially healthy—and what churches can do to help.

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Doctrine, expectations, and high standards do not scare people away from church. Confusion is the main enemy. According to Church Answers Research, over 60% of unchurched people agree or strongly agree that churches are confusing for outsiders—and shockingly, 60% of churchgoers say the same.

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Most churches miss this front door, not because of a lack of awareness but because of a lack of effort. Over half of the unchurched believe church could be a great place to make friends, but nearly 60% say it’s too intimidating to visit alone. That’s a huge opportunity. Today’s episode highlights how friendship, follow-up, and one key ingredient—an invitation—can lower the barrier and open the door for gospel conversations. Thom and Sam discuss some key takeaways from their new research.

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Sam talks with worship leaders Tara Banks and Nate Davis about building thriving, long-lasting worship ministries. Together, they unpack how to develop leaders who excel both on stage and in organization, create healthy pipelines for team recruitment and onboarding, and refine systems that support excellence in worship. With decades of ministry insight, Tara and Nate share practical steps for sustaining your own leadership while fostering teams that are united, prepared, and spiritually vibrant.

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If you’ve ever heard someone say, “I just don’t get anything out of that study,” you’re not alone. In today’s episode, Sam interviews Michael Kelley, Executive Director of the Rooted Network, and they dive into the top six frustrations people have with church curriculum.

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Here’s a shocker: The unchurched think the church is more relevant than many regular attenders do. But they don’t trust it. While 81% of churchgoers trust their church, only 30% of the unchurched say the same. The dichotomy is fascinating.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam dive into five compelling reasons churches should still prioritize reaching Baby Boomers. Despite cultural shifts, Boomers remain a vital part of many communities—and churches. They’re often more open to spiritual conversations, have time and resources to invest in ministry, and bring deep life experience that can benefit younger generations. Boomers still matter, and your church can more effectively reach and disciple them.

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In this episode, we explore realistic 1–2 year objectives for small-church revitalization—practical steps that can create lasting momentum without overwhelming your congregation. We unpack three key priorities.

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In this episode, we re-examine a major demographic shift reshaping communities and churches: the decline in mobility across the United States. Americans are moving far less than they did in previous generations, especially millennials. While older generations often relocated for work opportunities or family, today’s younger adults are more likely to stay put. Rising housing costs, tighter job markets, student loan burdens, and a growing preference for stability have all contributed to this trend. For church leaders, this change presents both challenges and opportunities.

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Pastors are often held to a “higher standard,” but not every expectation placed on them is biblical or even wise. In this episode, Josh and Sam explore which higher standards actually make sense for pastors and why. They cut through unrealistic pressures and focus on the standards that truly align with Scripture and healthy leadership.

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Sam is joined by Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.” In this second episode, they discuss how the Baptist T design still affects churches decades later–often in ways leaders don’t realize. Here are five ways this design limits ministry today and what can be done to use your facility as a tool for mission, not as a monument to the past.

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Sam is joined by Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.” The design of your church might be shaping your culture more than you think. Building styles reflect ministry priorities–but if the building doesn’t adapt, those priorities can become limitations. In this first episode, they explore the ‘Baptist T’ (a common church layout from the 1960s to 1980s) and how it was built for a ministry model that no longer fits.

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Studies on the content of sermons exist, and most indicate that pastors include some political topics in their sermons. But which topics? Ryan, Thom, and Sam reveal the answer. When asked about politics and the pulpit, few congregants say their pastors often speak about political issues. But is that really the case?

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Research from Barna reveals the top two reasons pastors consider quitting are stress and loneliness. This same study demonstrated an increase in pastoral loneliness—from 42% of pastors saying they felt frequently or sometimes lonely in 2015 to 65% of pastors in 2023. The church is supposed to be a place of belonging and hope, but many church leaders experience the opposite—isolation and discouragement. Josh and Sam examine this problem and offer their solutions.

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Too many church leaders shy away from encouraging weekly worship. They don’t want to sound legalistic. But that hesitation is a big mistake. In just 16 years, weekly church attendance has dropped sharply. Sam and Matt McCraw discuss why weekly church attendance is the best practice for everyone.

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Scripture gives clear qualifications for the characteristics of pastors. But who in the church should hold pastors accountable to these qualifications? Josh and Sam dive into the best practices for pastoral accountability.

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In this episode, Sam and Matt McCraw unpack weekly church attendance trends from 2016 to 2024 across four generations. While Boomers slightly increased from 27% to 28%, Gen X dropped from 24% to 22%, Millennials from 26% to 22%, and Gen Z saw the sharpest decline—from 29% to 24%. What do these shifts mean for the future of church engagement, discipleship, and ministry strategy? We explore the implications for leadership, generational outreach, and the need for intentional connection points that resonate with each group.

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On this episode, Sam and Josh unpack a landmark development for churches: the Internal Revenue Service’s shift on the 1954 Johnson Amendment. In a joint court filing with two Texas churches and the National Religious Broadcasters, the IRS now affirms that clergy can endorse political candidates from the pulpit without risking their tax-exempt status. The IRS reframes such endorsements as comparable to a “private family discussion” within the congregation during worship—with statements made via usual church communication channels not qualifying as political intervention.

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Sam welcomes Dan Block to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Dan is a Senior Translator for the New Living Translation. They discuss why the New Living Translation is the best choice for those seeking a Bible that is accurate, understandable, and audibly enjoyable.

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In this episode, Josh and Sam explore a fresh way to approach sermon illustrations. Instead of building a massive database with search tools and tags, consider categorizing your illustrations by type—like recent personal stories, historical examples, and visual aids. The goal isn't to store every idea, but to know what kind of illustration you're looking for and then go find it. Plus, we talk about how tools like ChatGPT can help you brainstorm the right type of illustration for your message.

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Churches have long embraced technology to enhance their ministries, but the most successful churches are shifting beyond simply broadcasting information—they’re leveraging technology to create belonging—authentic connections.

In this episode, Thom welcomes Sarah Nashif-Tan from VisitorReach to the podcast for an inside look at their latest innovation: VisitorTap. She is a strategic and passionate leader who blends business and ministry skills to empower local churches for cultural impact. Discover how this easy-to-use tap technology is revolutionizing the way churches engage guests and connect with their congregation.

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New religious data in the United States was released recently, and Ryan Burge joins the show with Sam to discuss the details. In 2024, Gen Z showed relatively strong religious attendance compared to other generations. Twenty-four percent of Gen Z reported attending religious services weekly—two percentage points higher than both Millennials and Gen X. While 53% of Gen Z attend less than once a year, that’s actually the lowest percentage of infrequent attenders among all the generations analyzed.

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Pastors provide spiritual guidance, but there are times when counseling crosses into territory best handled by trained professionals. In this episode, Josh and Sam explore the limits of pastoral care—when ethical, legal, and practical concerns make it necessary to refer someone elsewhere. From mental health crises to marital conflicts beyond a pastor’s expertise, knowing when to step back is crucial for both the pastor and the person seeking help. We’ll discuss red flags, healthy boundaries, and how pastors can support without overstepping.

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Churches may be spiritual communities, but they operate in a legal world. And many aren’t prepared. In today’s episode, Sam interviews Ryan June of Castañeda + Heidelman LLP, and we unpack the five most common legal issues churches face: child protection, property disputes, employment law, governance and bylaws, and intellectual property. Ignorance of the law is not a spiritual gift. Whether your church is 50 years old or just starting, these legal risks can’t be ignored.

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Many of the disruptions in local church life are widely known. For example, most congregants and church leaders can clearly see the impact of COVID several years ago. But there have been a number of “quiet” disruptions that don't get much attention. Thom and Sam look at ten of them over two episodes.

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Many of the disruptions in local church life are widely known. For example, most congregants and church leaders can clearly see the impact of COVID several years ago. But there have been a number of “quiet” disruptions that don't get much attention. Thom and Sam look at ten of them over two episodes.

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Most every church desires to grow with young families. But what do they look for in a church? Josh and Sam discuss a few key ways to attract and retain families with children.

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Hiring staff can strengthen a church—but not always. In this episode, Thom and Sam discuss seven times when adding staff is a mistake, from removing ministry opportunities from the laity to financial missteps and agenda-driven hires. Learn how to make wise, mission-focused staffing decisions for your church’s health.

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A pastor's salary is determined by several factors, including church size and budget, geographic location, cost of living, education, experience, and responsibilities. While there is no universal answer, Josh and Sam discuss general guidelines and what pastors should expect from their churches.

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Both prophets and conspiracy theorists cater to the human desire to make sense of chaos. This connection sparks compelling questions: Do religious belief and conspiracy thinking go hand in hand, as both involve leaps of imagination? Or does a strong religious framework offer enough structure, reducing the need for conspiracy theories? Ryan Burge joins the show to discuss what the hard data reveals.

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The future of America's largest churches (specifically megachurches—2,000+ weekly attendees) is a complex mix of momentum, innovation, and cultural headwinds. Eric Geiger from Mariners Church joins Sam on the show to discuss the reality facing large churches. Will they keep growing? Some will, but many are plateauing or entering slow decline.

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In this episode, Sam interviews Michael Kelley, Executive Director for the Rooted Network and a seasoned writer of church small group curriculum. As churches adapt to evolving discipleship needs, small group materials are also transforming. We’ll explore what’s driving these changes, how new approaches are resonating with different congregations, and practical insights for church leaders who are choosing curriculum in today’s landscape.

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Many people are passionate about Bible translations and have strong opinions about which one is the best. Pastors are no exception. Josh and Sam discuss what translations they believe are best suited for preaching.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam explore four types of church leaders who are unlikely to lead effectively in revitalization:1. Fearful leaders who avoid risk. 2. Leaders in denial who ignore decline. 3. Comfortable leaders who resist change. 4. Coasting leaders who have lost their drive.

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One of the most challenging parts of ministry is the rejection of getting fired by a church. Josh and Sam discuss the immediate next steps pastors can take to begin the healing process.

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What stops a church from having a breakout? Thom and Sam discuss four primary reasons they often see in their consultations and research.

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Sam received a message from a friend recently. His question was simple: How many people typically give in a church? Statistically, about 75% of people will give in a typical church. In his case, only 50% of the church was giving regularly. Josh and Sam discuss some ways to teach church members about the importance of tithing. The 10% mark can be controversial, but committing to give regularly should not be.

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No church grows week after week and year after year. Additionally, our spiritual growth has highs and lows. A slump is inevitable in churches and people. Thom and Sam discuss some causes of a ministry slump and what you can do to stop the slide.

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The long, slow death of mainline churches is well documented and goes back to the 1970s. In the mid-twentieth century, approximately half of all Americans were identified as members of one of the seven mainline denominations. Today, it's between 10% and 15%. Not much is said about revitalizing these churches, but there is hope. Josh and Sam interview one mainline Methodist elder, Chad Brooks, who has a plan to solve this problem.

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Fifty years ago, non-denominational churches were more of an anomaly. Today, they are one of largest religious groups in the United States and one of only a few growing religious groups. Why is this? Ryan Burge joins the show to discuss the reasons for growth among non-denominational churches.

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The co-hosts have noticed something—it seems church members are cussing more these days. But are their anecdotal experiences supported by data? Josh and Sam talk about the expletive problem in churches today.

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Churches can struggle with seeking outside help, even when it's obvious they need it. Thom and Sam discuss why healthy churches often have outsiders speak into the operations of the church.

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Very few churches are growing, which means most pastors will lead plateaued or declining congregations. Some pastors experience an entire ministry career in no-growth situations. Why does this happen? Josh and Sam discuss several reasons why some pastors never experience church growth.

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The average age of a pastor is 60 years old. The question of retirement is one many pastors are asking. Being a lead pastor comes with unique demands and extra attention. Is there an ideal age to retire? Thom and Sam discuss some guidelines for those who are closer to retirement than not.

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A generation ago, student ministers would often make the leap to the lead pastor role after a few years. Does this kind of move still happen? If so, is it a good thing or not? Unfortunately, sometimes ministry positions outside of the lead pastor are seen as a lesser role in the life of the church. Josh and Sam break down the good and bad of leaping from student ministry to lead pastor.

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Do you love to preach but at times loathe sermon prep? Do you find preaching incredibly fulfilling yet preparation frustrating or even overwhelming? If so, you're not alone. Many pastors struggle with the inefficiency of sermon prep—feeling bogged down by research, unsure how to faithfully interpret Scripture, or intimidated by today’s hot-button topics like politics, gender, and race.

Dr. Bruce Clark (PhD. in Biblical Studies, University of Cambridge) from Interpret Consulting joins the show to discuss the common frustrations of sermon prep and explore practical ways to streamline the process while strengthening your preaching skills. Interpret Consulting aims to come alongside busy faithful pastors (in churches of all sizes and stages) and assist them in sermon preparation by helping them strengthen their exegetical skills and tackle today’s seemingly endless sensitive “hot button” issues.

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Most pastors want to be liked and respected by their congregations. This desire is part of the reason they are motivated to serve others. However, approval addiction can become a major barrier to leadership. When people pleasing becomes the priority, pastors often do more harm than good in their congregations. Marty Duren joins Josh and Sam to discuss this important topic.

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We've all heard the stereotypes of homeschooled children. But what does the data say? Ryan Burge joins Sam on the show to discuss the facts. The co-hosts also discuss implications for the church.

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Most pastors go through the process of hiring someone to help them minister to the church. What should you do for your first hire? Josh and Sam walk through a helpful checklist.

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Preachers and other public speakers should avoid these fillers in public speaking. Sam and Thom listened to several podcasts and sermons, where they heard these common fillers.

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No church should die, but some will die. What if God calls you to a church that just isn't going to make it? Josh and Sam discuss how pastors can shepherd dying churches. Miracles still happen! If God can save any person, He can save any church.

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When Sam and Thom research local churches, they inevitably calculate average worship attendance. But how can they tell if it's accurate or not? They share five ways to be certain.

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The typical age of a pastor is around 60 years old. Young pastors are becoming increasingly rare. What happened? Josh and Sam discuss some demographic realities with the aging pastorate.

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Wedding ceremonies today are very different from those of the 1990s. Thom and Sam discuss what's changed. What's surprising and what's not?

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Many church buildings sit empty for a good portion of the week. What are the pros and cons of sharing the campus with other non-profits? Josh and Sam discuss some items to consider before opening your doors to other groups, churches, and ministries.

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Ryan Burge discusses his most-read research post of the year. Every age group is having less sex than they were a generation ago. Not only has sexual behavior declined among young people, but it has also declined among Evangelicals and other religious groups. What are the implications for the church? How should pastors address this reality, if at all?

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Student ministry is often where rules about minors break down in the church. Student ministries don’t need fewer rules than children’s ministries, but they need different rules. Though rebellion seems to be a rite of passage for many teenagers, they are far more receptive to guidance than you might think. Josh and Sam discuss what's often missed in churches.

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Where people organize, power will be present. The church is no exception. Thom and Sam discuss seven common power groups in churches. Hint: They are not all bad. How can you manage power dynamics among congregants in a way that is helpful to the church and glorifying to God?

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Continual learning is the philosophy that you keep growing in knowledge over a lifetime. Most of the time, this kind of learning is ongoing and self-motivated. Sam and Josh interview Timothy Paul Jones to discuss what happens when churches have continual education built into their discipleship process.

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Thom and Sam interview Steve Graves and discuss how pastors should shepherd business leaders in their churches. Steve has been coaching business leaders for decades and has a deep knowledge of the church. He shares his wisdom in this episode.

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Time away is essential. Every pastor needs it, and every church should give it. Josh and Sam revisit a Church Answers article from a few years ago, and the co-hosts discuss the continued importance of rest and relaxation for pastors.

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Three out of four churches in America have no type of welcome ministry. Why do church leaders fail to see its importance? What are the most significant challenges in starting and maintaining a welcome or guest services ministry? How might hospitality be underutilized in churches? Thom and Sam interview Danny Franks of Summit Church to learn more about this important and often-ignored topic.

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Since 2010, depression among teens is up 145% in girls and 161% in boys. During the same time period, anxiety is up 139% in those between the ages of 18 and 25. Josh and Sam discuss the findings from the book The Anxious Generation. Much of the problem stems from the widespread adoption of smartphones. What is the impact on student ministries in churches?

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Thom interviews Sam about safe churches. This podcast has vital information about your church. You need to find out if your church is really a safe place.

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Many Christian denominations and networks believe that divorce can affect a person's eligibility for ministry, particularly key roles such as lead pastor. This perspective is rooted in passages such as 1 Timothy 3:2, which states that an overseer must be “above reproach” and “the husband of one wife.” Some interpret this as disqualifying individuals with prior divorces. Josh and Sam discuss their views.

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Social capital refers to the unseen connections that unite individuals within a local community. It inspires people to support the local school system even if they don’t have children or to volunteer for a city park cleanup even if they rarely visit it. It’s the cohesive force that strengthens society and sustains a thriving democracy. Ryan Burge joins the show to discuss the connection between social capital and church attendance and how being active in church makes you a better person for your community and nation.

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What is the proper protocol for celebrating staff birthdays, work anniversaries, and major milestones? Josh and Sam discuss some ideas on encouraging church staff without going overboard. The co-hosts give guidelines on best practices and what is reasonable.

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It's an exciting thought to have a friend serve alongside you. Ministry is challenging, but it also can be fun, especially if we enjoy the people with whom we work. But hiring a friend does not often end well. In fact, we hear from pastors regularly about the downside of hiring a friend. In this episode, Thom and Sam look at the causes of this failure.

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Churches are not typically early adopters of technology. Boyd Pelley from Church Teams joins Josh and Sam to discuss why churches should embrace new technology sooner. The co-hosts talk about how pastors can become more proficient in the technology space.

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Does your church have clear expectations of church leaders? What positions are considered leadership positions in the church? What areas are your leaders held accountable? Thom and Sam discuss this important but often neglected issue in churches.

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Josh and Sam must deal with the reality of being both pastors and dads. We've all heard horror stories about pastors' kids. Are they true? Are pastors' kids different now than in the past? The co-hosts give their take on the current environment of raising children while also leading a church.

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Typically, the first step in making necessary changes is acceptance of the current reality. A church cannot change unless its members and leaders know that the status quo will lead to death. Sam and Thom review five situations where dying churches get stuck and, as a consequence, continue on the path toward death.

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Serving a church is not a 9-to-5 kind of job. Ministry comes with odd hours. Josh and Sam discuss their typical workweek and how they keep a rhythm going. Very few pastors work less than 40 hours per week, but how do they allocate those hours?

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Are we entering a new era in American religion? Current data shows we are at an inflection point. Over the last 30 to 40 years, the share of Americans who had no religious affiliation has dramatically increased. That period is over, and something new is on the horizon. Ryan Burge joins the show to discuss what this new era in American religion may look like in the next ten years.

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Abuse originates in how victimizers view others. At some level, they believe that other people exist to fulfill their desires. Pastors who take advantage of others place themselves at the center and try to control the orbits of vulnerable people around them. Victimizers are not necessarily brash or overpowering. They may be sensitive, subdued, and even charming. Many abusive pastors have likable personalities. So what are some warning signs to watch for? Josh and Sam discuss this difficult topic.

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Though COVID is still mentioned frequently, many of the detailed memories have disappeared. Thom and Sam recall six very specific developments in churches during COVID based upon hundreds of stories from members of Church Answers. They share what we can learn from them today.

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In about 30 years, Millennials will become the dominant older generation in most churches. What will they refuse to give up? Josh and Sam talk about their generation and what might become the sacred cows as they become elderly.

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It can be particularly challenging for a pastor to lead change in an older church when the primary decision makers (or most of the members) have been in the church for several years, sometimes a few decades. Thom and Sam look at four developments that often take place when leading change is successful. They reviewed over 20 successful churches.

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In your 30s and 40s, you start to learn what you don't know. The older you get, you either become more self-aware or stop caring. Josh and Sam talk about what they still haven't figured out after twenty years of ministry in the church.

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This time of year, many commentators and researchers prognosticate about the future of the church. Thom and Sam take a different approach in this episode. While many of their predictions from previous decades have turned out to be correct, not all of them did. They look back and evaluate a few predictions they got wrong from years ago.

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Art Rainer joins Thom to unpack some amazing research that can help you know how to lead your church members to higher levels of giving. You will be amazed how a few simple things can move your church toward greater stewardship.

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The holiday season can be stressful for pastors. The sprint to year-end can exhaust even the most seasoned church staff. Thom and Sam discuss ways to enjoy this busy time of year.

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How can you lead (and love) a church that is dying? Thom and Sam discuss this listener-submitted question. No church should die, but some will. Some pastors must shepherd congregations on what amounts to spiritual hospice care. It's a difficult calling, but there are some ways to glorify God, even as a church goes through the process of closing.

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The prevailing wisdom for pastors is longer tenure is better. This principle is generally true. A string of shorter tenures is usually not healthy for churches. But it is possible to stay too long. What are some of the warning signs?

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It’s understandable why people would think, “This place is full of Christians. It must be one of the safest places in my community.” But churches are not inherently safe. Quite the opposite. Churches have a target on them! You are a spiritual target for the powers of darkness. Sam Rainer and Matt McCraw discuss some key issues involving church safety.

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Money is a sensitive subject but ignore financial best practices at your peril. Many churches publish two sets of numbers weekly: worship attendance and giving. There it is, front and center—how many attended and the collective amount they gave. Despite the visibility, churches can struggle with the right amount of financial oversight.

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Thom Rainer is joined by Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.” In this third episode, we discuss what a church should consider when moving to a new piece of property or completely starting over.

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Thom Rainer is joined by Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.” In this second episode, we discuss what a church should consider before relocating to another building.

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Thom Rainer is joined by Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.” In this first episode, we discuss what qualifies a church for relocation and why you need to prove with data that you can’t stay on the site.

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Church greeter ministries are among the most undervalued ministries in churches today, even though churches of all sizes can have this ministry. Sam and Thom examine six reasons the ministries struggle or fail.

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More and more churches have a digital ministry, but who is really tuning in? Thom and Sam interview Ryan Burge to get to the facts of digital church services. The results will likely surprise you and run contrary to popular belief.

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The times right before and right after worship services are probably more important than you realize. Pastors have a unique opportunity to interact with the entire church. As a church leader, your persona on Sunday morning is not the whole of who you are, but it’s often the primary way church members form perceptions about you. Thom and Sam talk about the six best practices for pastors before and after worship services.

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Almost 25 years ago, we completed a research project that yielded the book “Surprising Insights from the Unchurched.” The study was a breakthrough in many ways, shattering long-held myths about how the unchurched felt about the church. What about now? Do the unchurched today have feelings similar to those of a generation ago? Thom and Sam reveal their new research.

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Thom and Sam are delighted to welcome Iva May to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Iva is the founder and director of Chronological Bible Teaching where she directs its day-to-day operations. Her 20 years working in creating the story concept of the Bible as a discipleship tool was integral in creating “The One Year Chronological Study Bible” as well as other Bible literacy resources used to teach and disciple people all over the world.

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The election season is probably not the primary catalyst for negativity in your church, but it can exacerbate the negativity already present. Pastors can feed the negativity by not acting with diplomacy and grace. Thom and Sam discuss these issues and what pastors can do to shepherd their congregations when tensions are high.

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The data may surprise you. Multiple studies confirm there is a positive correlation between higher education and church attendance. In other words, the more education you receive, the greater the likelihood you attend regularly in a church. Thom and Sam interview Ryan Burge to get the details about this phenomenon in American religion.

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When Gen Xers and Millennials were children, many churches shunned trick-or-treating in the neighborhood. Families were told Halloween events were evil and to be avoided. Around the same time, some churches started offering alternative events for neighborhood families. Today, churches have become the place to be on Halloween in many communities. Thom and Sam examine what happened and reminisce about their childhood.

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A time is coming when the Baby Boomer generation will no longer be present in churches. Our research writer, Ryan Burge, calls it the “Silver Tsunami.”  Thom and Sam talk about what church leaders should expect when this generational shift occurs.

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These five financial mistakes are common in churches of every size. Thom and Sam discuss five “don'ts” of church finance. Correcting these mistakes often yields immediate and measurable results in the financial health of the congregation.

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The multisite church movement continues to grow. Today, more small churches start new sites than larger churches. Thom Rainer talks with Jess Rainer about the very practical steps of starting a new site. Jess has started three churches himself.

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White evangelicals are among the largest voting groups in America. They tend to vote Republican. Has this tendency always been the case? And what about white evangelical Democrats? Ryan Burge joins Thom and Sam on an election season special to discuss evangelical voting trends.

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Thom Rainer and Art Rainer share a “secret” that very few church leaders know. Acting upon this information, the church is almost certain to increase its giving by 20% more.

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Most pastors and other ministers understand the tax benefits of housing and the ability to take certain deductions, but many are unaware of these three tax benefits. Thom examines all three.

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Ryan Burge and others offer fascinating research about the growth of non-denominational churches, especially compared to denominational churches. Sam and special guest Matt McCraw look at five of the implications of this movement.

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In this NOW series, we delve into three different ways churches can raise money effectively through unique revenue streams. For each of the streams, Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services answers three questions.

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In this NOW series, we delve into three different ways churches can raise money effectively through unique revenue streams. For each of the streams, Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services answers three questions.

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In this NOW series, we delve into three different ways churches can raise money effectively through unique revenue streams. For each of the streams, Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services answers three questions.

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Sam is delighted to welcome Amanda Jass to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Amanda is the general editor of the Go Bible with Tyndale Kids. She loves helping families bring fun and faith into the everyday through her work as a children’s writer, editor, and illustrator. She worked as a kids ministry curriculum developer for several years, and she continues to grow in her passion for teaching kids all about God’s love.

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Shepherding a church is a difficult assignment. The spiritual attacks are real, and growing a church is far more challenging now than in the past. However, there are some great benefits of being in ministry. Thom and Sam share five perks that most pastors enjoy.

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How bad is the job dissatisfaction level of pastors? More than half of pastors have considered leaving their jobs. What are the leading causes? Stress, isolation, and political division top the list. However, 71% of pastors moderately or completely agree that their lives are close to ideal. What's going on here? Ryan Burge joins Thom and Sam to discuss the true misery level of pastors.

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Though counterintuitive, some declining churches start to appreciate their pastors more. This dynamic is usually unhealthy, but not always. Thom and Sam discuss what they see in these situations. What was once unheard of has not become more common.

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The annual cost of family health insurance coverage at work is now around $24,000, up about 7% this year. While there are some ways to mitigate these expenses, healthcare costs are up much relative to other goods and services. Since 2000, the cost of medical care has surged by 119%. In comparison, the prices for all consumer goods and services have increased by 85% over the same timeframe. How should churches support pastors with healthcare costs?

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Motivation is what prompts someone to act or behave in a certain way. A church must have the right motivation to do outreach. On this week's episode, Thom and Sam talk about the outreach motivators that have staying power in churches.

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Don't finish summer without a plan to engage your church and community with a big fall programming launch. Thom and Sam discuss some ways to lift fall attendance in your church through simple communication channels. Any size church can have a great start to the fall season!

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A time existed when both Thom and Sam wondered if the mid-size church would dwindle as people transferred into megachurches and planted new churches. Today, mid-size churches have distinct advantages. The co-hosts cover several reasons why mid-size churches have new opportunities to thrive.

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Thom and Sam welcome Marc Estes, co-founder of VisitorReach. Marc has a passion for equipping leaders, strengthening churches, and empowering outreach through kingdom innovation. They talk about new trends and opportunities to get people to visit churches in a post-pandemic world.

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Presidential election years can be especially contentious, and this year will be no exception. Thom and Sam discuss how church leaders can manage the tension in ways that are helpful to the church body.

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More churches are stunned when confronted with a major facility cost. They did not take care of the need, and they set aside funds for the need. Thom discusses this issue with Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group. They are “The Church Facility Experts.”

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Many church leaders do not think much about the safety of their church facilities. Safety issues are essential to protecting those who come to our churches. Thom discusses this issue with Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.”

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Hundreds, if not thousands, of cars pass your church every day. What is their first impression of your facilities when they see them only from the outside? Thom discusses this issue with Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group, who are “The Church Facility Experts.”

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In this week's episode, Sam asks Thom about some of the biggest shifts in the American church in the last thirty years. They discuss what has changed and why the shifts occurred. Some things changed for the better, and others changed for the worse.

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How many people are really leaving their childhood faith? Ryan Burge joins Thom and Sam on this special episode to unpack important data for churches. Retention rates are a good indicator of how well a church disciples people. Keeping people is a major part of church health. The hosts discuss the data concerning national trends with church retention.

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Even with the best of motives, we all make decisions we later realize are not God's will. What should a pastor do when facing this dilemma? Thom and Sam discuss some strategies for unwinding bad decisions. They offer some helpful tips on the best approaches to guide a church back to the starting line.

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Long tenure is usually better for churches and their pastors. But there are occasions when you know it's time to make a transition. For example, many pastors are ready for something new when the nest is empty. Thom and Sam discuss what you can do when you are certain about a transition.

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The fastest-growing churches are often located in prime areas for growth. In a recent Church Answers Research article, Ryan Burge took a deep dive into how churches located in growing communities generally find it easier to add new members. Thom and Sam discuss the implications of these findings.

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Based on a recent article Thom wrote, Sam and Thom dig deeper into the issue of church members' ages. Their thoughts might surprise you.

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Church Answers does two major types of evaluation of music in church worship services. The first approach uses a secret guest to get their first impressions. In the second approach, Church Answers uses a trained and highly competent church musician to evaluate the music from both a philosophical and technical aspect. Sam and Thom look at five common issues in these technical evaluations.

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There are between 350,000 and 400,000 churches in the United States. Is there really a church on every street corner? Ryan Burge joins Thom and Sam on this special episode to discuss the optimal number of churches in a community. The answer will likely surprise you.

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Proverbs 22:1 makes clear, "Choose a good reputation over great riches; being held in high esteem is better than silver or gold." (NLT) How can a church recover after a scandal? What are some ways a congregation can begin to rebuild a reputation? Thom and Sam discuss some steps forward for these churches.

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There are good examples of growing churches reaching young families. What are they doing differently than others? Thom and Sam answer this question. There is more to this issue than being a large church in a growing suburb. Churches reaching young families come in a variety of sizes and locations.

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One of the signs of a healthy church is people asking tough questions. These questions may be theological, or they may involve life issues. When people are comfortable asking about difficult subjects, it shows trust in leadership. Thom and Sam discuss the importance of having a church culture that encourages asking hard questions.

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Thom and Sam are delighted to welcome Brady Shearer to the Rainer on Leadership podcast. Brady is the CEO of Pro Church Tools. His work helps churches navigate what he calls "the single biggest communication shift we've seen in the last 500 years."

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It is fascinating to engage church leaders and members about their understanding of discipleship. Frankly, it means different things to different people. Sam and Thom discuss the importance of getting clarity about discipleship in a local church.

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Thom welcomes Dr. Naomi Cramer Overton and Misty Arterburn. The Every Woman’s Bible by Tyndale House Publishers is a study Bible for the heart and mind. The relevant and timely features in this Bible focus on what hundreds of women say they desire from a Bible. Over one hundred scholars, writers, and contributors—all women—from around the world invite readers into serious study and deep reflection through this Bible and to connection in the global community.

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The Southern Baptist Convention is experiencing a decline in the scope and scale that is unprecedented in American church history. As the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., the declines in the SBC are noteworthy for many reasons. Ryan Burge joins Thom and Sam on this special episode to discuss what's happening and what the future may hold for the SBC.

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As the median size of a church gets smaller, more are in the predicament of being supported by a handful of key donors. Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Thom and Sam to discuss what these churches can do. Not every case is dire, but the long-term viability of a congregation is at stake when one or two key donors are responsible for most of the budget.

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Most gifts to churches are given without designating how the funds should be spent. However, there are cases when donors restrict their donations or give to a designated account. While every donation helps kingdom work, designated gifts can be tricky. Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Thom and Sam, and they discuss some of the nuances around restricted giving.

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Talking to key givers in the church does not have to be awkward. Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Thom and Sam to discuss how pastors can make the ask without feeling icky. They discuss some best practices that any pastor can follow.

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There have been steady but subtle shifts in how churches hire staff and call ministers for years. Many of those shifts have accelerated since COVID. Sam and Thom look at four of the most significant shifts.

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Thom and Sam examine long-term trends in corporate worship services. Some of the data surprised them. You might be surprised too.

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Thom welcomes Scott Beck, co-founder and CEO of Gloo, a technology platform that releases the collective might of the faith ecosystem. After starting and scaling successful businesses including Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, Boston Market, and Angie’s List (now Angi), Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through tech. Gloo helps 60,000 church leaders in using tech to engage their people and reach local communities.

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America is not yet a godless nation, but we are becoming a less churched nation. While people say they believe in God, fewer are attending a house of worship. Ryan Burge joins the show with Thom and Sam to discuss the data driving these trends. But not all the trends are negative. In fact, one group is seeing more people attend church now than in the past: conservative evangelicals.

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Does the doctrine of the church affect the potential for growth? It depends. Thom and Sam analyze historical macro trends in church growth. Growing churches tend to be more conservative, and liberal churches tend to decline. But doctrine alone is not the entire story. The co-hosts discuss recent church history, doctrine, and the growth of churches.

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Members will inevitably attach themselves to certain leaders in the church. In multiple-staff churches, this attachment is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, you should expect church members to get close to some of the staff, especially if they serve in their ministries. On the other hand, these constituencies can become problematic when used as leverage to influence the direction of the church.

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Pastors do not have unlimited hours and resources to write sermons. Additionally, pastors have workweeks much longer than church members realize because of the invisible nature of sermon preparation. But how long should it take to write a typical sermon? Well, it depends. Thom and Sam discuss what's normal in ministry and how you can become more efficient.

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Elections are contentious. They have been for most of our nation’s history. The tensions surrounding this year’s coming election season should not be a surprise. To what degree should pastors be involved in the political process? Thom and Sam discuss this hot-button issue on today's episode.

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Sadly, Church Answers is getting an increasing number of consultation requests from churches wanting to deal with the issue of possibly closing their churches. Thom and Sam look at the five issues churches should consider before making such a dramatic move.

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The median age of pastors continues to get older. At Church Answers, we often speak with pastors who are contemplating retirement. Sam and Thom address the five most common questions we ask these pastors so that we can help them in their decision-making process.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at ministry focused design. In this third part, we talk with Todd about the ways in which church design impacts the culture of a church.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at ministry-focused design. In this second part, we talk with Todd about what it means to balance a facility, focusing on groups.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at ministry focused design. In this first part, we talk with Todd about how to build ministry value in a facility design.

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In last week's episode, Thom and Sam looked at the growing reality of the Never Attenders in the United States. Today, they discuss how churches might reach this group.

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Based on the outstanding research of Ryan Burge, we can see more clearly who are and who are not attending church today. Thom and Sam look at his latest research on the Never Attenders, a growing group in America.

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Many churches give to missions through the operating budget. But what about funds for the work of evangelism in the community? On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss the importance of allocating a portion of the budget for evangelism. The co-hosts give some practical tips on how much this budget line item should be and what should go into it.

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Sometimes churches view interim pastors as "band-aids" to keep the church together, but a good interim will do much more. Thom and Sam discuss what defines a successful interim pastorate. Whether short-term or long-term in duration, these five key objectives can make or break an interim role.

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One in four pastors say they have struggled with mental health issues, and 17% of pastors say it was diagnosed. Given the prevalence of the issue, churches cannot ignore the problem. Silence creates the perception that something is off-limits. Mental illness does not signal a lack of faith any more than contracting cancer signals a lack of faith. Thom and Sam discuss how churches can be helpful to pastors who struggle with mental health problems.

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About 80% of your neighbors are receptive to an invitation to church. At best, most churchgoers invite someone once or twice a year. Almost a third of churchgoers never invite anyone. Inviting someone to a worship service or church event is not evangelism, but this invitation is a significant first step to cultural change in your church. What happened to the culture of invitation? Thom and Sam discuss their thoughts on this week's episode.

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In part 2, Sam interviews Jim Davis and Michael Graham. They examine exactly how people are leaving and suggest how to "re-church" those who have exited.

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Sam welcomes Jim Davis and Michael Graham. In part 1, they share the highest altitude insights from their study and book, The Great Dechurching.

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Criticism is not necessarily toxic, even when it is misguided. And no one likes to field complaints. Sometimes they are warranted, and sometimes they can be toxic. How can a pastor tell the difference? Thom covers the best ways pastors can discern toxic conflict from healthy conflict. It's not always easy, but he offers a few practical tips through six questions.

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For years, we have dismissed the potential for a significant move of God in neighborhood churches. At Church Answers, we believe they are primed for a comeback. They are numerous, and they are located in the heart of places with lots of people. Sam discusses the return of neighborhood churches and how this movement is just beginning.

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Thom welcomes Susan Perlman, Chief Partnership Officer and one of the founders of Jews for Jesus. In this episode, they discuss how The Chronological Life Application Study Bible, created in partnership with Jews for Jesus, helps connect our Christian faith to its Jewish roots.

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Thom welcomes William Vanderbloemen, CEO and Founder of top executive search firm Vanderbloemen Search Group. In this episode, Thom interviews William about his book, “Be The Unicorn,” in which he reveals the 12 teachable traits and explains why hiring managers embrace each trait. He provides actionable takeaways for how readers can incorporate each trait into their personal and professional lives.

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Every believer is called to Christlikeness. Pastors, however, have a calling to be above reproach. What does this calling mean? On this episode, Sam interviews Matt McCraw. Together, they cover the universal standards for all pastors and what special burdens they carry.

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Women account for six out of ten churchgoers. Frankly, the church cannot thrive if women are not thriving. On this episode, Sam interviews Jacki C. King to discuss some practical insights about women in ministry. A church of any size can have a successful women's ministry.

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Thom welcomes Alex Goodwin, co-founder of the Institute for Bible Reading and co-creator of “Immerse: The Bible Reading Experience” and “Immerse: The Reading Bible,” winner of the 2022 ECPA Bible of the Year award. He counts himself as one of many Christians who have struggled to read the Bible and believes that changing how we interact with Scripture can help us become immersed in its transformative story.

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You've likely heard the phrase "blessed subtraction" referring to divisive church members who leave for another congregation. On occasion, they will return. What should you do? Thom and Sam give some tips to church leaders.

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Thom and Sam received a question from a regular listener. Henry from Ontario wanted to know how pastors can best recognize faithful members serving in areas of the church that are often unnoticed. For example, the only time the church notices the tech team is when something goes wrong in the worship service. Most people who serve behind the scenes do not want public recognition. How can the church honor them?

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Sam welcomes Ann White, an internationally known author, speaker, Christian TV Host, passionate Bible teacher, Founder and CEO of Courage For Life. Her passion is to equip and encourage people from all walks of life to embrace their God-given courage for life. They discuss the need to have resources available to help people grow both spiritually and emotionally.

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You can't reach your community unless you know your community. On this week's episode, Thom and Sam discuss the most often missed community demographics and why they are important.

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Sam welcomes father-daughter duo and theologians Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer. In their book “Pivot,” Scot and Laura help churches to implement practices, establish priorities, and cultivate gospel-centered qualities that form goodness cultures. Scot is professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. Laura is a teacher and coauthored “A Church Called Tov” with Scot.

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Every pastor should take a vacation. But pastors can struggle with knowing how much vacation they should take and how long they should be away. Thom discusses best practices with vacation time.

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How effective are new mover ministries, particularly those where a card is mailed to every new mover in a specified area? Thom and Sam look at some early results they gleaned.

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In the conclusion of this special series on recreation ministry, Thom and Sam talk about the future of recreation ministries in churches. More churches will restart their sports programs. Now is the time to begin. The future is bright!

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Thom and Sam continue their special series on recreation ministry. Many church leaders bemoan how sports can pull people away from the church. But what if sports can be used to draw people into the body of Christ? Sports can just as easily work for you. The co-hosts explain how on this episode.

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On this special episode, Thom and Sam discuss the history of recreation ministry in churches and why it’s poised for a comeback. Sports are massively popular in culture right now. Churches can use this popularity as a big ministry opportunity.

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How a pastor dresses is ultimately much less important than teaching sound doctrine and caring for the congregation. But people do notice what you wear. Should pastors dress up on Sunday since they are leaders? Or should they try to blend in with the congregation and be more relatable? Thom and Sam discuss these questions on this episode.

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Sam Rainer takes a different role in this podcast as Thom interviews him about the remarkable story of West Bradenton Baptist Church, a neighborhood church that is making a big difference in its community.

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Some churches have the uncanny ability to prolong infighting for decades. Other congregations get to a point where the fighting creates collective exhaustion. Thom and Sam discuss what happens when a church stops fighting because everyone is tired.

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At Church Answers we love a good turnaround story, especially when a struggling church gets healthy and begins to thrive. On this episode, Thom and Sam interview Gary Moritz of City United Church in Lunenburg, MA. This comeback story is incredibly inspirational.

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Charitable giving is up—a near record of $485 billion in 2021, despite surging inflation. However, giving to churches has dropped even though giving to non-profits is up by 4%. In the early 1980s, churches received over half of all charitable giving. Today, churches receive less than a third of all charitable giving. Mike Stadelmayer joins Sam to discuss what’s going on with these trends.

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Interest rates are rising, and some churches are experiencing an increase in debt service payments. Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Sam for a special series on generosity. On this episode they discuss the controversial topic of debt and how churches can avoid holding too much debt for too long.

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How strong is the financial foundation of churches today? Mike Stadelmayer of Church Growth Services joins Sam for a special series on generosity. In this important interview, Mike shares three megatrends affecting every church.

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Thom and Sam welcome Jeff Gissing, Acquisitions Director for Tyndale Bibles, to discuss a unique and powerful telling of the gospel, “God With Us”. An ordained Presbyterian Pastor, he enjoys teaching High Sunday School and leading a small group at his local church.

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One of the key reasons many churches are not growing today is that many of their church members do not know the essentials of the Christian faith. Thom and Sam examine this phenomenon and offer key steps for the church to move forward.

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It seems that every church that has a renewed emphasis on prayer sees greater health in all areas of the church. Thom and Sam share how effective praying churches have motivated and equipped members for more powerful prayer.

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On this week's episode, Thom and Sam discuss why the typical church must replace a third of its congregation every year to maintain the same number of attendees. Most pastors feel this problem, but the Church Answers team has data on the issue.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at the components of a church master plan. We will also get a high-level overview of the master plan. In this third part, we talk with Todd about the key critical issues of a church master plan.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at the components of a church master plan. We will also get a high-level overview of the master plan. In this second part, we talk with Todd about what it means to right-size your church.

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Todd Brown is the CEO of Brown Church Development Group, a national church design/build firm. In this three-part podcast series, we will look at the components of a church master plan. We will also get a high-level overview of the master plan. In this first part, we talk with Todd about the concept of "paths" in a church.

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Thom and Sam share five reasons why pastors above the age of 70 will become increasingly common.

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There are essentially three groups of people who attend churches: the committed Christians; the casual Christians, and the cultural Christians. Thom and Sam look at each of these groups and offer a sobering prediction: the casual Christians will be the next wave of departures in churches.

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More churches need help today than ever before. But there are not enough church consultants available to assist these churches. Thom and Sam discuss the current state of church consulting and where it will likely go in the future.

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Most pastors and church leaders will have at least one season of restlessness. It’s the nagging question that keeps you thinking . . . what’s next? In the case of the church, this question can be corporate, meaning you’re thinking what’s next? for the entire congregation. This question can also be personal, meaning what’s next? for me individually. Thom and Sam discuss how pastors can use feelings of restlessness in a positive way.

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You can be a good parent and a good pastor. Leading a church does not mean losing your children. Thom and Sam talk about raising preacher's kids and some potential pitfalls to avoid when parenting as a church leader.

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A child in your church decides to follow Christ. There is no greater decision! Now what? Thom and Sam recently created a helpful checklist for pastors and church leaders to share with families.

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One of the more concerning trends in North American churches is the increasing length of time it takes churches to call a pastor. Thom and Sam give both cultural and demographic realities for this trend.

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Church fostering is one church helping another church for a specified period of time. There has been a lot of interest in the topic, so Thom and Sam explore where the church-fostering movement is headed.

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Thom and Sam welcome Benjamin Watson, author of the upcoming book, “The New Fight for Life: Roe, Race, and a Pro-Life Commitment to Justice.” Benjamin is a former NFL player who now serves as VP of strategic relationships with Human Coalition, a pro-life organization based in Dallas.

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In most cases, the lead pastor has oversight of church staff. How much authority should the lead pastor have when hiring new church staff? This question recently came up in Church Answers Central from one of our members (Thanks Deek!). Thom and Sam tackle this subject on this week's episode.

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Every church is different. Pastors have their own personalities. With church leadership, should the personality of the pastor fit the congregation? Personality is not the only factor in determining fit, but it is one to consider. Personalities can change over time and so can your calling. Even when the fit is not ideal, both church and pastor can learn to love each other.

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Thom and Sam welcome two special guests to the show: Dr. Art Rainer, host of the More Than Money podcast, and Dr. David W. Jones, Professor of Christian Ethics at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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Millennials are the least mobile of the last four generations. They don’t move nearly as much as their parents and grandparents. You might find this stat surprising. What’s going on? Thom and Sam discuss on this week's episode.

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Most churches are aging. But how much? Is there a looming generational crisis? Thom and Sam tackle this topic in this week's episode.

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Andrew McNair is the host of the Rich Young Powerful podcast, a financial commentator, author of “The Giving Crisis”, 9-figure wealth manager, and philanthropist. You can reach him at https://richyoungpowerful.com/.

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You will often hear a pastor or some other church staff person talk about their "call to ministry." Many of these ministers remember specific times and dates of their call, while others speak more of a growing awareness of a call to vocational ministry. But can (or will) God revoke or end a call to ministry? Thom and Sam look at three perspectives.

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History gives us some insight into how a return to normal occurs following a pandemic. After the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, it took about two years for people to resettle into their typical patterns again. We're entering into this phase with Covid, but some things in the church will not return to pre-Covid activity. In this episode, Thom and Sam discuss how the pandemic has forever changed the way people experience church facilities.

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Church Answers has documented on several occasions the anemic state of evangelism in many American churches. In this podcast, Thom and Sam examine the reasons behind this struggle, while offering positive and proactive responses.

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Generational conflicts are so common they're cliche. Churches are notorious for infighting among generations, but many churches are doing multi-generational ministry well. Thom and Sam discuss how Millennials and Boomers can thrive together in the same church.

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Five Updates on Pastoral Tenure1. Overall tenure is increasing. 2. But a significant number of pastors left during or shortly after the pandemic. 3. Bivocational pastors have longer tenures. 4. The paucity of available pastors will affect tenure. 5. The "five-year-test" may become the "seven-year test."

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Kyle Thompson is the host of the Undaunted Life podcast, created specifically for men seeking to push back spiritual and cultural darkness. The Undaunted Life podcast is in the top six percent of all podcasts and growing daily. You can reach him and see more about his ministry at www.undaunted.life.

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Thom and Sam discuss five trends they see in churches with under 250 in attendance.

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While we encourage church leaders to be peacemakers If at all possible, there are times when a battle is necessary. Thom and Sam look at five of those scenarios.

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Thom and Sam are joined by Mike Stadelmayer, president of Church Growth Services, to discuss how church finances are changing, especially in light of the pandemic of recent years. In this third episode, the three men address the issue of capital giving with limited resources.

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Thom and Sam are joined by Mike Stadelmayer, president of Church Growth Services, to discuss how church finances are changing, especially in light of the pandemic of recent years. In this second episode, Mike shares with Sam and Thom how churches can increase budget giving in the midst of several challenges.

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Thom and Sam are joined by Mike Stadelmayer, president of Church Growth Services, to discuss how church finances are changing, especially in light of the pandemic of recent years. In this first episode, the three men specifically address the impact of the pandemic.

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Thom and Sam take a trip to the past and share about their early victories and mistakes when they first became pastors. From this venture, they share six things they would like to tell their younger selves.

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A recent Christianity Today article reported on data from the 2020 Religion Census. According to the report, every Protestant denomination has declined while those congregations claiming to be non-denominational gained millions of people. Thom and Sam discuss their thoughts on this report and what it may mean for the future of churches affiliated with Protestant denominations.

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We hear more frequently from pastors whose spouses feel strongly that they want to leave the church. These pastors ask us the tough question, "What do I do?" Sam and Thom respond to the question in this podcast.

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All churches have leadership challenges, regardless of size. Small churches are not easier to lead than large churches. Large churches are not easier to grow than small churches. But they are different. When pastors move from one size of church to another, they have to adapt.

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Thom looks at new data from Lifeway Research that powerfully depicts the changing landscape of American congregations, particularly in terms of size. In part 2, he looks at the implications of this surprising new data.

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Thom looks at new data from Lifeway Research that powerfully depicts the changing landscape of American congregations, particularly in terms of size. In part 1, he tries to grasp the meaning of these new categories.

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Church Answers is blessed to have more women become a part of the community. Some of these women are directly involved in the women's ministry in the congregation. In an interview with Jacki King, director of women's discipleship, Thom explores the changing world of this ministry.

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For a good part of the last half of the twentieth century, spiritual gifts were a topic of intense interest in churches. Now it seems as if that interest has faded. Thom and Sam examine why the emphasis faded and why it's important for churches to "rediscover" spiritual gifts.

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The importance of the local church in the life of a Christian is powerfully clear and obvious in the New Testament. Today, however, many Christians minimize the role of local congregations. Sam asks Thom several questions about this issue in light of Thom's new book, “I Am a Christian.”

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More churches are providing ministry and theological training for their staff and lay leaders. Thom and Sam look at the reasons for this major development. They also interview two pastors, Tyrone Barnette and Matt McCraw, who have built ministry training centers at their own churches.

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Money issues can be the source of stress, marital problems, job problems, and anemic giving in your church. Thom and Sam interview Art Rainer to discuss the concept of a financial champion in your church, and how that person, usually a volunteer, can be transformative for the church and its members.

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Part 4: You MUST Listen to This Podcast Before Moving into a Building Program

Here is the complete guide for taking your church facilities from worn and patchwork to exciting and ministry aligned. In just four short podcasts, you will likely learn more about church facilities than you have in years. Todd Brown of Brown Church Development Group joins Sam and Thom to discuss this critical ministry need. This podcast series may prove to be one of the most important you have heard.

Do not even consider a building program before you listen to this podcast. It could save you thousands of hours of time and millions of dollars. And it could be transformational for the future of your church.

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Part 3: Making Your Facilities Guest-Friendly and Ministry Aligned

Here is the complete guide for taking your church facilities from worn and patchwork to exciting and ministry aligned. In just four short podcasts, you will likely learn more about church facilities than you have in years. Todd Brown of Brown Church Development Group joins Sam and Thom to discuss this critical ministry need. This podcast series may prove to be one of the most important you have heard.

In this third episode, Thom, Sam, and Todd dive deeper into the issues of facilities being guest-friendly and ministry aligned.

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Part 2: Dealing with Patchwork and Worn-Out Facilities

Here is the complete guide for taking your church facilities from worn and patchwork to exciting and ministry aligned. In just four short podcasts, you will likely learn more about church facilities than you have in years. Todd Brown of Brown Church Development Group joins Sam and Thom to discuss this critical ministry need. This podcast series may prove to be one of the most important you have heard.

Do you have patchwork and worn-out facilities? You will not want to miss this episode!

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Part 1: Turning Your Facilities into Exciting Relational Space

Here is the complete guide for taking your church facilities from worn and patchwork to exciting and ministry aligned. In just four short podcasts, you will likely learn more about church facilities than you have in years. Todd Brown of Brown Church Development Group joins Sam and Thom to discuss this critical ministry need. This podcast series may prove to be one of the most important you have heard.

In this first podcast, they deal with the exciting possibility of turning your facilities into useful relational space that makes sense.

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Inflation will become a more serious challenge than most church leaders realize. In fact, inflationary pressures could very well be a once-in-a-generation challenge. Thom and Sam examine the "why" behind the new inflationary pressures, and the "what" our response should be.

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Evangelism is dead in approximately 9 out of 10 churches in America. The Great Commission has become the Great Omission. In this episode, Thom and Sam look at six practical ways evangelism can return as a priority in your church.

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Streaming is the ability to upload and receive video and audio over a computer device. Fifteen years ago, streaming was not widely available. Today, almost everyone streams. Thom and Sam discuss what this next phase of the digital revolution means for preaching in churches.

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Thom and Sam look at the different perspectives of bringing family members on staff. As you would expect, it is not a clear-cut issue.

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Can a church staff work entirely from home? Should the church maintain consistent office hours where staff are at their desks? Thom and Sam discuss the new rules for staff office hours. While there is more flexibility today, office hours are not necessarily a thing of the past.

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So many changes took place in congregational life in 2022. Thom and Sam look at those changes and the implications for churches as we move into 2023.

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Their stories are rare, but they are worth telling. Some churches that were expected to close did not. Many of these churches seem to have everything going against them. Thom and Sam explain what took place in these churches.

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Many pastors are leading churches that need revitalization. But a number of those leaders are discouraged that the process is not working or that it's working minimally. Sam and Thom discuss some reasons why revitalization may not be working in your church and what you can do to change it.

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Evangelism is dead or nearly dead in most churches. Thom and Sam discuss why this sad situation developed, and what your church can do to see evangelism renewed among the members.

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Thom and Sam welcome on the show Matt Markins, president and CEO of AWANA. Matt is a global leader and researcher in child discipleship. On this special episode, Thom, Sam, and Matt discuss what you are likely missing with family discipleship and how you can quickly shift to train up the next generation.

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Thom and Sam welcome on the show Matt Markins, president and CEO of AWANA. Matt is a global leader and researcher in child discipleship. On this special episode, Thom, Sam, and Matt discuss the current environment for children's ministry. Much has changed in the last two years, but many great opportunities exist for churches.

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Your church may be lagging in health because your members do not understand the Bible well. Sam and Thom explain why most church members need to grasp the Bible as a whole before they can understand its parts. The results could revolutionize your congregation.

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Most churches have more guests than they realize. About 2% to 5% of those who worship on Sunday will identify as guests. How has this group changed in the last ten years? Thom and Sam discuss what is different now than in the past.

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Every person who joins your church is a unique story of God’s grace. These individual stories are important and should be celebrated. From a statistical standpoint, however, there are four main ways churches grow. Thom and Sam discuss how most church growth occurs through conversion growth, transfer growth, biological growth, or demographic growth.

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Like so much in the world and in churches, change is constant. Thom and Sam look at the fascinating changes in ministry training and education. These shifts will have a profound impact on local churches.

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Most Americans today read, but consume information via media and through storytelling. What does this mean for Bible reading and engagement? The Bible tells a story filled with themes and threads that connect us to God’s love and truth, but they can be hard to see for many reasons. The fact that most people have never read the Bible chronologically doesn’t help. On today’s episode, Thom and Sam are joined by Stan May and Joel Strahan from the Chronological Bible Teaching team to discuss how reading the Bible chronologically can help us better understand how our story is intertwined with God’s story and why this is important for churches.

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On June 24, 2022, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and eliminated the constitutional right to abortion after ruling on a new court case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. Thom and Sam discuss the implications of this decision. This historical decision will have a lasting impact on the culture, and the church must be ready to serve.

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Interest rates are on the rise. The stock market recently entered into bear territory. How will a potential recession affect your church? Thom and Sam discuss six ways you can help prepare your church for an economic downturn. Discipleship cannot happen without stewardship, and your budget is a major way to steward the resources of the church.

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Many churches have Christian schools, preschools, mom's day out, and other similar ministries. Should these ministries be financially self-supporting? The answer is not always clear. Thom and Sam discuss six key thoughts about this issue.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners through a three-part series detailing essential digital tools for the church. Some will be expected; others may not be. In each of the 15 categories, Thom and Sam are likely to provide you with insights you have not heard before. In this second part of the series, they look at 5 tools that will prove very helpful for most church leaders.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners through a three-part series detailing essential digital tools for the church. Some will be expected; others may not be. In each of the 15 categories, Thom and Sam are likely to provide you with insights you have not heard before. In this third part of the series, they look at 5 tools that are relatively new. Even if they have been around a while, they are new to most churches.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners through a three-part series detailing essential digital tools for the church. Some will be expected; others may not be. In each of the 15 categories, Thom and Sam are likely to provide you with insights you have not heard before. In this first part of the series, they look at 5 basic tools every church needs.

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Over the last few years, the New Living Translation has seen significant growth in popularity, even moving into the #2 spot for several months in a row. Still, some pastors are hesitant to use it as their main translation. Why is this translation gaining in popularity and what about the translation process and model can help pastors feel more confident in using it as their main translation? What is important for pastors to think about when choosing a translation?

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Romans 12:18 makes clear believers are to do all they can to live at peace with everyone. This same sentiment is found in 1 Thessalonians 4:11, in which Paul instructs the church to live a quiet life and mind your own business. Unfortunately, these instructions go largely ignored by many church leaders. We seem to be more at war than we are at peace. What can we do to regain this theme in our lives?

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Pastors often ask us what they need to do to reach Millennials, Gen Z, and younger generations. On today's episode, Thom and Sam talk to Esteban Shedd and Loren La Luz from Streetlights about the Streetlights New Testament and why it’s important to find new ways to help the younger generation connect to God’s Word and the Church.

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At some point in ministry, most church leaders will face the reality of one or more toxic church members. Thom and Sam examine this challenge and offer tough but challenging steps to deal with this problem.

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It’s unreasonable to expect everyone to agree with everything you say. In fact, if you’re doing your job well as a pastor, taking firm stances and having a clear vision, then you will likely have dissent. In most cases, this dissent is not an omen of malevolence, but rather a sign of trust. Thom and Sam discuss why it's not a bad thing that everyone doesn't always agree with you.

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The Bible tells us to remember the prisoners as if we were in prison with them (Heb. 13:3), and the first request of persecuted Christians is that we PRAY for them. In today's episode, Thom and Sam talk to Todd Nettleton, Chief of Media Relations and Message Integration for the Voice of the Martyrs–USA about a wonderful tool to help Christians answer the first request of our persecuted family by helping us to pray specifically and knowledgeably for them.

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I have yet to see a church drift towards greater health. The current of apathy always pulls away. But what causes this drift? What are some early warning signs of an unraveling in a congregation? Thom and Sam discuss some key indicators often preceding a decline in church health.

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Unless you work for an organization like the CIA, then transparency is often among the top characteristics requested of leaders. Of course, even organizations built on the foundation of secrecy have gotten into trouble for a lack of transparency. Transparency is a healthy leadership characteristic. But why? In the context of a local church, what does a transparent pastor encourage, as opposed to one who is not?

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Through our research, we’ve heard from the unchurched about things believers do that make them bristle the most. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss a few of the most abrasive turn-offs.

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Pastors typically go through five major tenure stages at a church. Sam and Thom look at the implications of each stage.

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The Bible is more accessible than ever, yet Bible reading and Bible literacy are on the decline. Many Christians struggle to read Scripture, often ending up confused, bored, and full of unmet expectations. What has gone wrong? How can we change this dynamic? In today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to Glenn Paauw, Senior Director of Content for the Institute for Bible Reading about how church leaders need to fundamentally rethink how they invite their congregation into the Bible.

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Money is one of the most sensitive subjects in the church. It’s also one of the most visible. Churches can struggle with the right amount of financial oversight. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss four key safeguards for better financial oversight in the church.

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There are certain aspects of pastoral ministry that pastors simply do not like. While every pastor is different, our survey found the top ten facets of pastoral ministry like the least. Sam and Thom look at a survey we did ten years ago, and compare it to a recent survey.

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Every church has an organizational culture. Some churches have a culture of optimism. You can feel the energy in worship. Others are pessimistic. You can sense the deadness when you walk into the sanctuary. What is the difference between churches that approach obstacles with a “can do” attitude over others that have a “can’t do” attitude? What makes a church have a lively optimism over a dead pessimism?

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Why must everything be so black and white? Like many of us, Derwin Gray is weary of the racial divide in our society. He longs to see hurts healed, wrongs corrected, and trust replace distrust. In today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to Derwin about what the Bible has to say about how to heal our persistent racial divides.

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Can you think of a church that once had a great reputation that is now hardly ever mentioned? Even worse, if it is mentioned, it is done so negatively. There are three big reasons great churches fail. Sam and Thom discuss all three in detail.

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Part of shepherding your church is understanding the major cultural influences impacting people in your congregation. News media can have a big effect on the perspectives of your members. How can you be proactive to prevent as much polarization as possible? What news sources are good to track? Thom and Sam answer these questions on this episode.

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Millions of people are quitting their jobs every month in what many are calling "The Great Resignation." Pastors are not immune from this trend. Thom and Sam discuss how pastors, staff, and church leaders are undergoing a "Great Reshuffling," a term they prefer since you don't really resign from serving the church. What does this trend mean for the future of the church?

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Many pastors get the Monday blues. Sundays can be emotionally draining and physically exhausting. Making Monday a day full of meetings is not wise for most pastors. Thom and Sam discuss five ways you can be strategic about making Monday a day of recovery. Even if Monday is not a day off, there are some ways you can steward the time to be a better pastor.

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Thom and Sam consistently advocate long pastoral tenure. Every church will have its critics and its problems. We usually urge pastors to stick it out. But there are times pastors need to count the cost and ask if it's really worth it to stay. Could it be that God is using the situation to nudge the pastor to move on? By the way, we are grateful to the listener who recommended we tackle this topic. We are always glad to hear from you.

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A crisis that can get overshadowed by COVID, but is plaguing our communities is the opioid epidemic. Opioids and other addictions are destroying individuals, families, and communities. What role does the church play in bringing help and hope amidst such a destructive force? How can churches step into this space and bring Christ’s healing and freedom to people who are enslaved by their addictions? On today’s episode, Thom talks to Steve Arterburn about this crisis and how churches can help.

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Social media is an unavoidable method of communication. Ignoring social media completely is a mistake. You must shepherd people online as well as in person. Much of social media is benign, but some of it can become toxic. How should you handle harmful posts when you encounter them?

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Few models exist on how to handle the moral failure of a staff person. Indeed, there is little consensus among pastors about what to do, even with something as explicit as adultery. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss four key questions to help you determine a path forward with a staff person after a moral failure.

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Even when you're feeling your best, preaching is an exhausting endeavor. But sometimes you get sick. Pastors can also struggle with their emotions or mental health issues. Then there are the Sundays when you're just grumpy. On this episode, Thom and Sam talk about how to preach even when you don't feel like it. They share some practical tips to help you get through the message without faking it.

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The subject of giving is one that can be tense in the church. Many pastors and church leaders struggle to equip their congregations to give sacrificially. What is sacrificial giving? How can your church encourage a culture of generosity? Thom and Sam discuss some practical ways to equip your church.

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You will experience betrayal at some point. For those with a long tenure in ministry, you've likely gone through a difficult season because of betrayal. The sting of betrayal hurts. How can we manage the pain while at the same time leading others? On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss the types of betrayal and how you can respond.

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In this special three-part series, Thom looks at how some churches are successfully getting people to return to in-person services. This special project looks deeply at data and information from research and case studies. In part 2, they note that hundreds of churches are defying these negative trends. These growth churches point us to solutions.

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In this special three-part series, Thom looks at how some churches are successfully getting people to return to in-person services. This special project looks deeply at data and information from research and case studies. In part 1, Thom explains why you have to understand the underpinnings of the challenge before you look at solutions.

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In this special three-part series, Thom looks at how some churches are successfully getting people to return to in-person services. This special project looks deeply at data and information from research and case studies. In part 3, they offer six concrete steps for moving forward to get people to return to in-person worship.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners on an exciting three-part journey about major moves that should be made in any and every revitalization. They are part of a larger "checklist" revitalization leaders need to follow. In this third of three episodes, the Rainers examine the wrong kind of dreams many church leaders and members have.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners on an exciting three-part journey about major moves that should be made in any and every revitalization. They are part of a larger "checklist" revitalization leaders need to follow. In this second of three episodes, the Rainers examine the most urgent issues in revitalization.

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Thom and Sam take the listeners on an exciting three-part journey about major moves that should be made in any and every revitalization. They are part of a larger "checklist" revitalization leaders need to follow. In this first of three episodes, the Rainers examine why the church cannot merely pause but must hit a total reset button.

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The Bible changes lives and getting it into the hands of those in need is mission-critical. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with Jeff Hilliard about answering the call to send hope to troops.

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For many Christians, the Christmas season is a time of spiritual reflection on the important foundations of the Christian faith. On today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to former Harvard physics instructor, Dr. Michael Guillen, about his journey from Atheism to Christianity and how he discovered that faith is the mightiest power in the universe.

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We are alarmed at the number of pastors and church leaders who are struggling right now. If you feel like you are at a crossroads, you are not alone. Don't give up. You can get the help you need, and one of the best ways to find help is through a leadership coach.

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership we are celebrating the release of Keith and Kristyn Getty’s new album, “Confessio - Irish American Roots”. Thom and Sam discuss the inspiration for the album, the Getty family’s recent year-long trip to Ireland, and what’s next for Getty Music.

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We are in the midst of a great reshuffling of ministry positions. Many pastors are considering leaving their churches, and many churches are looking to fill open positions. Most churches still require a resume to be considered as a candidate. What should you include in your resume? On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss the essentials of a great ministry resume.

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Every Christ-follower is meant to be connected to the church. You are not here by accident. God has a plan for you, and that plan includes being a faithful and active part of a local church. Church membership includes seven basics of belonging. Embrace the seven basics of belonging and serve God more through the church. You need your church, and your church needs you.

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We are in the midst of a great reshuffling in churches. Pastors are considering leaving their churches in numbers we have not seen in recent memory. Aging Boomers and the pandemic are two reasons, but there is more happening. Thom and Sam discuss what you should consider before leaving your church.

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Churches are still growing despite the struggles of many congregations in a post-COVID era. Thom and Sam look at seven key ways churches have broken the most common attendance barriers in the past several months.

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Stress, burnout, and being overcommitted and overworked have become a part of everyday life for many people. But, what can you do about it? On today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk with Carey Nieuwhof about how to reclaim margin in your busy life.

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Racial tensions still exist in the United States, and there are certain demographic realities that must be addressed. The country is becoming more diverse and will continue to do so at an increasing rate. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss how demographic changes will impact all-white churches in America. What can we expect the happen to them in the next ten years?

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If you think serving a church as a pastor is more difficult today than in recent years, you are not imagining things. Thom and Sam look at five of the reasons this change took place.

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The Christmas season is a time when guests are more likely to visit your church. Christmas Eve services, in particular, are popular with people from the community. Now is the time to start making plans. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss what will be different and what you can expect for Christmas this year.
1. Christmas Eve services will be as popular as ever. Guests will be there!
2. Christmas Eve falls on a Friday this year. It's ideal timing. Have a separate Christmas Eve service and invite people to your Sunday services.
3. This year people will spend a lot on gifts. Don't be afraid to ask people to be generous with gifts to the church.
4. Most community activities that were canceled last year will be back in full swing.
5. People still expect a more traditional worship service at Christmas.

Resources:

Church Growth Services

"12 Things Churches Changed During COVID That They Are Keeping after COVID" by Thom S. Rainer

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The Christmas season is a time when guests are more likely to visit your church. Christmas Eve services, in particular, are popular with people from the community. Now is the time to start making plans. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss what will be different and what you can expect for Christmas this year.

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➡️ Church Growth Services - https://churchgrowthservices.com/
➡️ "12 Things Churches Changed During COVID That They Are Keeping after COVID by Thom S. Rainer - https://churchanswers.com/blog/12-things-churches-changed-during-covid-that-they-are-keeping-after-covid/
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Working in ministry can be demanding and stressful, but sometimes we forget to have fun in our callings. Perhaps you need a lighter season. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some ways to restart the fun in your vocation.
1. Skip a few standing meetings and spend more time with your family.
2. Call an old friend and go on a weekend road trip together.
3. Practice using more humor in your sermons.
4. Have a meal with your faithful supporters and thank them.
5. Play a practical joke on someone you trust.
6. Go on a night out with your leadership team and their spouses.

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The Levity Effect: Why it Pays to Lighten by Adrian Gostick and Scott Christopher

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Working in ministry can be demanding and stressful, but sometimes we forget to have fun in our callings. Perhaps you need a lighter season. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some ways to restart the fun in your vocation.

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➡️ The Levity Effect: Why it Pays to Lighten by Adrian Gostick and Scott Christopher - https://www.amazon.com/Levity-Effect-Why-Pays-Lighten/dp/0470195886/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=levity&qid=1627498173&sr=8-5
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Knowing and enjoying God should be integral to the Christian life. However, many of us struggle to grow in the means of grace and develop a deeper relationship with God. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with Tim Challies about the daily spiritual disciplines that help Christians know and enjoy God more fully.

Tim Challies is a Christian, a husband to Aileen, and a father to two girls in their teens and one son who is waiting for him in heaven. He worships and serves as an elder at Grace Fellowship Church in Toronto, Canada. He is a blogger and book reviewer and has written a number of popular books. His latest book is Knowing and Enjoying God (Harvest House, September 2021).
1. What was your inspiration for writing a devotional book?
2. How can a small message grow someone’s faith in a big way?
3. In Knowing and Enjoying God, you challenge readers to cultivate consistent means of grace – also referred to as spiritual disciplines. What means of grace are you seeing the church in the most need of right now?
4. A great majority of your book falls into the habits of reading the bible, of praying, and of participating in the local church. Why a strong emphasis on these three?

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  • Brown Development Group

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Knowing and Enjoying God by Tim Challies

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Knowing and enjoying God should be integral to the Christian life. However, many of us struggle to grow in the means of grace and develop a deeper relationship with God. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with Tim Challies about the daily spiritual disciplines that help Christians know and enjoy God more fully.

Resources:

➡️ Brown Development Group - https://bit.ly/38Ib7aR
➡️ Church Growth Services - https://bit.ly/3Bq4MwR
➡️ Tim Challies - www.challies.com
➡️ Knowing and Enjoying God by Tim Challies - https://www.amazon.com/Knowing-Enjoying-God-Words-Wise/dp/0736983856/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=knowing+and+enjoying+god+in+books&qid=1622040837&sr=8-1
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Thom and Sam look at the challenging issue of plagiarism in sermons. They suggest five things you can do to avoid this mistake.
1. Cite verbally and/or in writing every source that you used to write a sermon.
2. Be careful with sermon resource sites. If you copy their material you need to say so.
3. Remember it's more than specific words that can be plagiarized. Key thoughts and outlines are also subject to copying.
4. Use one of the resources available to check for plagiarism.
5. Consider preparing your sermon first with no outside aids.

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Thom and Sam look at the challenging issue of plagiarism in sermons. They suggest five things you can do to avoid this mistake.

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It’s time for the neighborhood church to make a comeback. The stigma of small churches is fading. Incredible potential is right around the corner. Imagine what could happen if neighborhood churches got healthy on a large scale. The neighborhood church movement is primed for a launch. If this comeback occurred, what might it look like?
1. The stigma becomes the advantage.
2. Church fostering becomes more common.
3. Local pastors become less like islands and make friends.
4. Community revitalization becomes part of the mission.

Resources:

Know Your Community

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It’s time for the neighborhood church to make a comeback. The stigma of small churches is fading. Incredible potential is right around the corner. Imagine what could happen if neighborhood churches got healthy on a large scale. The neighborhood church movement is primed for a launch. If this comeback occurred, what might it look like?

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Church leaders should love their community as much as their churches. Love for a congregation mismatched with disdain for a community will cause you to retreat in an unhealthy church bubble. What are some ways church leaders can learn to love their communities more?

Don't travel away from the community at every opportunity you get.

Celebrate with the community at public events.

Live in the heart of the church neighborhood, not on the outskirts or in another community.

Join a civic organization and serve.

Try something new in the community on a regular basis.

Resources:

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Know Your Community

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If a church member was at the main intersection in town with a bullhorn yelling at people, then you would want to know about it. Social media is the bullhorn, and there is a lot of noise out there. While you need to be aware of what church members say online, balance is key. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss how pastors and church leaders can shepherd the congregation on social media.

Social media is a communication tool. It becomes good or bad by how you use it.

Completely avoiding social media is a mistake.

Immersing yourself in social media is a mistake as well.

You don't need to know everything people say online, but it is good to be aware of patterns in behavior on social media and elsewhere.

Guard your church's social media pages and track what staff and key leaders are doing.

Set the example by using social media for encouragement, not political attacks or denominational power grabs.

Resources:

“Stop It!” - Bob Newhart
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Pastoral succession is an important process many churches overlook. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with William Vanderbloemen about why it is important for the future health of your church now more than ever.

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The concept of generosity is an important part of the Christian faith. However, many pastors and church leaders struggle to develop a culture of joyful giving in their congregations. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with Michael Stadelmayer from Church Growth Services about how to develop a culture of generosity in your church.

Why is the concept of generosity so important to the local church?

What is something a pastor can do right now to help grow generosity in their church? Highlight ebook

Are these simple steps a complete picture of developing a culture of generosity in your church?

What are a few of the most common or greatest barriers a pastor must overcome to develop an intentional generosity strategy?

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The concept of generosity is an important part of the Christian faith. However, many pastors and church leaders struggle to develop a culture of joyful giving in their congregations. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam talk with Michael Stadelmayer from Church Growth Services about how to develop a culture of generosity in your church.

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Experienced pastors are not immune from mistakes. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some common blindspots for mid-career pastors. These mistakes are not career killers, but they can set back a ministry. While all pastors can fall into these traps, those who are mid-career are particularly susceptible.

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Experienced pastors are not immune from mistakes. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some common blindspots for mid-career pastors. These mistakes are not career killers, but they can set back a ministry. While all pastors can fall into these traps, those who are mid-career are particularly susceptible.
1. Going to a bigger or better church will reduce stress levels.
2. Flattening the learning curve for new trends because experience is adequate.
3. Relaxing standards of accountability because church trust level is higher.
4. Responding defensively to critics because of previous hurt.
5. Forgetting all your children need more attention, not less.
6. Failure to embrace continuing education.

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Imagine a church on life support one year that has moved to thriving within a few years. Though you've heard of church turnarounds, you've rarely heard a story this dramatic. Sam and Thom interview Jonathan Smith with Texas Baptists to hear about this God-sized story.

Tell us the background of this church up to the point of its near-death experience.

How long did it take to get to the point in the title of this podcast?

What were some of the key factors in the turnaround?

What were some of the biggest obstacles to the turnaround?

What are some key transferable principles from this story for other churches?

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One of the greatest challenges of parenting is navigating the crucial conversations that we must have with our kids. On today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to Jimmy and Kristin Scroggins about having hard conversations with our kids that point them to Christ.
1. Why did you write this book? What inspired you to write it?
2. Talk about the tough conversations you’ve had with your own children. How did you handle those?
3. What are the “3 Circles?” What led you to start using the 3 Circles Gospel tool with parenting?
4. What role does the church play in this conversation of parenting? How can “Full Circle Parenting” help pastors and church leaders better equip parents?

Jimmy and Kristin Scroggins have been married for more than twenty-five years and have eight children and 2 grandchildren. Jimmy pastors Family Church in West Palm Beach, Florida.

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Jonathan “The Voice” Howe returns for an episode. We find out what he's been doing.

What Jonathan is doing now.

Some of our favorite memories of working and traveling with Jonathan.

How Jonathan helped launch Rainer on Leadership.

What has changed over the past ten years?

Favorite restaurant meals over the years.

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership we are celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the hymn, IN CHRIST ALONE. Thom and Sam discuss the song’s success with writer Keith Getty and learn what’s next for Getty Music.

Keith and Kristyn Getty occupy a unique space in the world of music today as preeminent modern hymn writers. In re-inventing the traditional hymn form, they have created a catalog of songs teaching Christian doctrine and crossing the genres of traditional, classical, folk, and contemporary composition which are sung the world over.

In Christ Alone was released in America in September 2001 and it is estimated that over 100 Million people in churches sing this song each year. 20 years and this song continues to grow in use having occupied the number 1 slot in the CCLI UK chart and a top 15 slot in CCLI in the USA for the majority of that time.

Thom and Sam discuss the following with Keith and Kristyn:

Congratulations on the 20th anniversary of “In Christ Alone!” Tell our listeners a little about how you wrote this song and its far-reaching impact on Christians and churches across the world.

Tell us about the 2021 Sing! “In Christ Alone” Worship Conference this September 13-15 and its theme, “Reset. Restore. Reunite.”

Where do you see Christian hymns in the next 20 years? What is next for Getty Music?

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The rural church is brimming with opportunities. Indeed, it may be one of the most fruitful mission fields in the world. Thom and Sam interview B. J. Rutledge about his leadership in a rural church that defied all expectations. You will not want to miss this episode.

BJ Rutledge is the lead pastor of Grace Fellowship Church in Paradise, Texas. The church is enjoying phenomenal success reaching thousands of people with the gospel. Some have called it, “The miracle in the cow pasture.” BJ is married to Janet, and they have 3 children and 5 grandchildren.

Thom and Sam discuss the following questions with BJ:

How did you end up in a rural town called Paradise, Texas, population 459?

What are some unique keys to leading a rural church?

Now that Grace Fellowship Church averages 1,800 people pre-COVID, many pastors might say your story is an anomaly that can't apply to them. How would you respond?

What were some of your greatest challenges in leading Grace?

What final words would you like to share with pastors and other leaders about rural churches?

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Not every cultural issue deserves the attention of church leaders. Some issues, however, are unavoidable. Other issues desperately need the voice of the church. How can you discern when to speak and what to say? It seems just about anything can become a hot-button issue. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some tips for handling controversial subjects. Now more than ever, people need clarity from church leaders.

Part of shepherding a congregation is being aware of hot button issues.

You don't have to speak to every issue, especially when you have little knowledge or experience about a topic. Silence is an option; often it is the best option.

Sometimes you need to speak about something even if you don't know much about it. Seek help from those who know.

Always do what is best for the community and your church, not yourself. In some cases, you may take a lot of heat for standing up for what is right.

Read and listen broadly to a variety of experts on a variety of topics, especially those who have a different background or viewpoint than you.

Formulate your position with truth, justice, and optimism. Whiners and complainers are not leaders.

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For most churches, the summer months can be a lull. Families vacation and people tend to be in and out of the church more. It's rare to have high attendance Sundays in the summer, but there are ways to make the most of the season. These five tips will help you navigate the summer months.

  1. Research your church and community demographics.

  2. Take key church leaders on field trips in the community.

  3. Build your local network and reach out to other experts. Take area pastors to lunch.

  4. Study global cultures, especially those with unreached and unengaged groups.

  5. Create a helpful and healthy schedule that will carry you into the fall.

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Being a humble pastor is challenging. On today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to Dr. Jim Shaddix about the importance of preaching with humility.

Dr. Jim Shaddix

Jim Shaddix serves as Professor of Preaching at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, NC, occupying the W. A. Criswell Chair of Expository Preaching. He also serves as a Senior Fellow for the Center for Preaching and Pastoral Leadership, which exists to resource pastors in local churches. Jim has pastored churches in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Colorado, and also served as Dean of the Chapel and Professor of Preaching at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary in New Orleans, LA. He is the author of several books including The Passion Driven Sermon and Decisional Preaching. Jim and his wife, Debra, focus much of their attention on discipling and mentoring young leaders and spouses. They have three grown children and ten grandchildren.

Preaching with humility is inherent

Preaching with humility is essential

Preaching with humility is hard

Preaching with humility is easy

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In this episode, Thom and Sam look at worship attendance from the perspective of a spiritual discipline. Is attendance really a spiritual discipline, and what are the implications if it is?

Gathering with other believers is not usually viewed as a spiritual discipline.

The most commonly mentioned spiritual disciplines are prayer, fasting, and Bible reading.

From Acts 2:42 following, the church is urged to gather.

Gathering is sometimes called "attendance" and, thus, has detractors.

We are watching the debate on whether virtual meetings are true gatherings.

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Every single day, someone you know is thinking about committing suicide. Ten million Americans will consider killing themselves in the upcoming year. On today’s episode, Thom and Sam talk to Dr. Matthew Sleeth about how Christians—and our churches—can offer hope and be part of the solution.

Dr. Matthew Sleeth

Matthew Sleeth, MD, a former emergency room physician and chief of the hospital medical staff, resigned from his position to teach, preach, and write about faith and health. Dr. Sleeth has spoken at more than one thousand churches, campuses, and events, including serving as a monthly guest preacher at the Washington National Cathedral. Recognized by Newsweek as one of the nation’s most influential Christian leaders, Dr. Sleeth is the executive director of Blessed Earth and author of numerous articles and books, including Hope Always: How to Be a Force for Life in a Culture of Suicide, which released from Tyndale House Publishers in May 2021. Matthew lives in Lexington, Kentucky, with Nancy, his wife of forty years. Their grown children serve with their families in full-time parish ministry and as medical missionaries in Africa
1. We’ve heard suicide described as an epidemic in the U.S. Would you share some of the facts about the prevalence of this issue among Americans today?
2. Are Christians equipped to handle a suicide epidemic?
3. What do you think is the primary challenge for pastors and other ministry leaders trying to make a difference in today’s culture of suicide?
4. What are some practical ways we as the church can cultivate communities of hope amidst all the trauma and trials people face in today’s world?

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Hope Always: How to Be a Force for Life in a Culture of Suicide by Dr. Matthew Sleeth

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Almost every pastor at some point will be confronted by a church bully. This person is usually a control freak, and turns on the pastor when the pastor does not do his bidding. Thom and Sam look at five traits of pastors who have overcome these bullies.
1. They understand the principle of "allied patience."
2. They are willing to play the long game.
3. They have prayer coverage.
4. They are willing to risk short-term losses.
5. They fight with grace.

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Churches are not reaching people for Christ because they are not trying to. On today's episode, Thom and Sam discuss what church leaders are doing to recover evangelism.

The death of evangelism due to liberalism

The death of evangelism due to factionalism

The death of evangelism due to lack of intentionalism

The action of focused intentionality

The principle of "one thing"

The power of the pulpit

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Why CONSERVATIVE CHURCHES ARE GROWING: A Study in Sociology of Religion with a new Preface by Dean M. Kelley

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Many churches dropped membership classes during the pandemic. Now is the time to restart them. In fact, church membership classes are more important than ever. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss several reasons why churches must keep providing these classes post-COVID.

These classes help minimize church conflict with front-end teaching.

Volunteerism is down. Increase the quality of volunteers with a membership class.

Potential members are now less inclined to push back on attending a class.

People need to re-establish habits as we emerge from the pandemic.

With COVID, managing expectations is critical.

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The popularity of mid-size churches is growing. Mid-size churches are too big for one person to lead but not big enough for a full staff. These churches have unique leadership challenges and opportunities. On this episode, Thom and Sam discuss some tips for leaders in mid-size churches. Metrics, delegation, and the ability to pivot are especially important.

Shift your mindset: Mid-size churches are too big for one person to lead but not big enough for a full staff

Monitor the right metrics and use quarterly trends to help guide decisions

Be willing to pivot when programs or ministries struggle

Delegate as you encourage and equip

Have a specific local focus that sets your church apart

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We know that you want to make a difference in the lives of others. That’s why Southeastern is committed to helping you get the training you need to pursue your ministry from anywhere around the world. We offer over 50 degrees from the associate to the PhD level. No matter what stage of life's journey you find yourself in, we want to help you take your next step in getting equipped to disciple and teach others. In coming to Southeastern, you’ll find that seminary isn’t just about theological education; it’s about ministry preparation. Explore degrees, schedule a visit, or apply today at sebts.edu.

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Thom and Sam discuss five reasons for the amazing phenomenon of the smaller church becoming the church of choice today. Reason number four may surprise you.
1. The demographic reality: the younger the generation, the more likely they are to prefer smaller gatherings.
2. The COVID reality: people gathering for worship have come to appreciate smaller gatherings more.
3. The facility reality: more church leaders are viewing large worship facilities as wasteful.
4. The neighborhood church reality: this type of congregation is making a big rebound.
5. The Boomer reality: this generation gave us the large church gathering, and they are diminishing in number.

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Most leaders will not want to be in a position where they have to apologize publicly, but it is likely to be necessary at some point. Thom and Sam look at key issues to consider when you need to apologize publicly.

Make certain it is the right time and the right place.

Go directly to the heart of the issue without excuses.

Do not use prefatory comments like, "If I offended anyone . . . "

Keep in mind most sincere apologies will be brief.

If you are apologizing on behalf of your church or organization, take the blame yourself.

Ask for forgiveness.

Resources:

Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Belay

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If you're a church, school, nonprofit, values-based business, or family office, Vanderbloemen would be honored to serve you. Their team's goal is to empower yours by aligning your people solutions for growth: hiring, compensation, succession, and culture. Hire the right people. Pay them well. Plan for the future. Build a culture that lasts. Learn more at Vanderbloemen.com

We know that you want to make a difference in the lives of others. That’s why Southeastern is committed to helping you get the training you need to pursue your ministry from anywhere around the world. We offer over 50 degrees from the associate to the PhD level. No matter what stage of life's journey you find yourself in, we want to help you take your next step in getting equipped to disciple and teach others. In coming to Southeastern, you’ll find that seminary isn’t just about theological education; it’s about ministry preparation. Explore degrees, schedule a visit, or apply today at sebts.edu.

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Nobody is certain of the future, but this year is more uncertain than most. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam discuss ways to lead your church forward in an uncertain year.

Nobody is certain of the future, but this year is more uncertain than most.
The importance of spiritual disciplines and discipleship remains, but they alone are not leadership.
Identify your new baseline with attendance and giving.
Prioritize quarterly and six-month strategies above long-term vision.
Be intentional about enhancing a celebration culture but don't neglect the care of those who are hurting.
Now is the time to seek outside counsel and inside accountability.

Resources:

How Your Church Can Reach People in a Post-COVID World
The Complete Church Consultation
Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership
Belay

Episode Sponsors:

We know that you want to make a difference in the lives of others. That’s why Southeastern is committed to helping you get the training you need to pursue your ministry from anywhere around the world. We offer over 50 degrees from the associate to the PhD level. No matter what stage of life's journey you find yourself in, we want to help you take your next step in getting equipped to disciple and teach others. In coming to Southeastern, you’ll find that seminary isn’t just about theological education; it’s about ministry preparation. Explore degrees, schedule a visit, or apply today at sebts.edu.

If you're a church, school, nonprofit, values-based business, or family office, Vanderbloemen would be honored to serve you. Their team's goal is to empower yours by aligning your people solutions for growth: hiring, compensation, succession, and culture. Hire the right people. Pay them well. Plan for the future. Build a culture that lasts. Learn more at Vanderbloemen.com

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Like people in other professions, pastors are exhausted and struggling with decision fatigue. A great reshuffling is occurring. Many pastors and church staff are considering a transition. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom and Sam interview Dee Ann Turner about how you can successfully transition to a new role.

Dee Ann Turner CEO, Dee Ann Turner & Associates, LLC

Dee Ann is a 33-year veteran of Chick-fil-A, Inc. Prior to retirement in 2018, she was Vice President, Talent and Vice President, Sustainability for Chick-fil-A, Inc. Selected as the company’s first female officer in 2001, she was instrumental in building and growing Chick-fil-A’s well-known culture and talent systems. Today, she leads her own organization, Dee Ann Turner & Associates, LLC, writing books, speaking to over 50 audiences per year and consulting and coaching leaders globally. She is the author of the best-seller, It’s My Pleasure: The Impact of Extraordinary Talent and a Compelling Culture. Her latest book is Crush Your Career: Ace the Interview, Land the Job and Launch Your Future.

Dee Ann has been married to her husband, Ashley, for 37 years and they are the parents of three grown sons.

  1. Many pastors are considering a transition to another career or a bi-vocational role in 2021. What advice would you give them as they make this transition?

  2. How do you distinguish a job from a calling?

  3. What are your top tips for finding and interviewing for a job?

  4. Discuss how important it is to leave a job well. Do you have any advice for pastors and church leaders who are making this move?

Resources:

Crush Your Career: Ace the Interview, Land the Job, and Launch Your Future by Dee Ann Turner
Dee Ann Turner
Know Your Community
How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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We know that you want to make a difference in the lives of others. That’s why Southeastern is committed to helping you get the training you need to pursue your ministry from anywhere around the world. We offer over 50 degrees from the associate to the PhD level. No matter what stage of life's journey you find yourself in, we want to help you take your next step in getting equipped to disciple and teach others. In coming to Southeastern, you’ll find that seminary isn’t just about theological education; it’s about ministry preparation. Explore degrees, schedule a visit,

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  1. They have not been trained to handle personal finances.

  2. They don't practice money milestones.

  3. They are busy serving others.

  4. They have an attitude of "It can wait."

  5. They don't have an "emergency kit."

Resources:

How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
"The Essential Emergency Binder"
More Than Money Podcast
ArtRainer.com
The Money Challenge
More Than Money Podcast Episode #23
Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership
Belay

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the 37-hour Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and Revitalize Network. We are also partnering with Southeastern Seminary to make available for FREE a new ebook, How Your Church Can Reach People in a Post-COVID World by Thom S. Rainer. Learn about both of these offerings and more by visiting www.sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Every leader experiences seasons of exhaustion. It is important to discern between exhaustion and burnout.
Do not let the urgent make you lose sight of the important.
Temporarily avoid the people who drain your energy.
Create a strict schedule that includes enough rest and stick to it.
Dedicate more time to prayer, God's Word, and something that you are passionate about.
Do not internalize setbacks. View them as temporary and use them as a way to discover new opportunities with your team.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Vanderbloemen
How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
Radical Mentoring
Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership
Belay

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If you're a church, school, nonprofit, values-based business, or family office, Vanderbloemen would be honored to serve you. Their team's goal is to empower yours by aligning your people solutions for growth: hiring, compensation, succession, and culture. Hire the right people. Pay them well. Plan for the future. Build a culture that lasts. Learn more at Vanderbloemen.com

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the 37-hour Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and Revitalize Network. We are also partnering with Southeastern Seminary to make available for FREE a new ebook, How Your Church Can Reach People in a Post-COVID World by Thom S. Rainer. Learn about both of these offerings and more by visiting www.sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Many churches did not hold in-person Easter services last year, but this year we are expecting the majority to do so. While the priority of celebrating the resurrection remains, this Easter may feel differently for people. For some, it will be their first Sunday back in over a year. On this episode, we discuss a few ways to prepare for in-person Easter services and what you can expect from those who plan to attend.

A portion of your congregation is targeting Easter as their first time back.

The nervousness of crowds will not go away by Easter, even with the vaccine.

Your church should welcome people with thoughtful hospitality.

Make a special emphasis and ask people to get reconnected to the church.

People will be more open to follow-up this Easter.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Simple Church in a Post-COVID World ebook

Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Belay

Episode Sponsors:

If you're a church, school, nonprofit, values-based business, or family office, Vanderbloemen would be honored to serve you. Their team's goal is to empower yours by aligning your people solutions for growth: hiring, compensation, succession, and culture. Hire the right people. Pay them well. Plan for the future. Build a culture that lasts. Learn more at Vanderbloemen.com

We know that you want to make a difference in the lives of others. That’s why Southeastern is committed to helping you get the training you need to pursue your ministry from anywhere around the world. We offer over 50 degrees from the associate to the PhD level. No matter what stage of life's journey you find yourself in, we want to help you take your next step in getting equipped to disciple and teach others. In coming to Southeastern, you’ll find that seminary isn’t just about theological education; it’s about ministry preparation. Explore degrees, schedule a visit, or apply today at sebts.edu. Use the code CHURCHANSWERS (no spaces) and Southeastern will waive your application fee.

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Sam Rainer and Thom Rainer discuss five major ways church giving has changed.

  • Ten percent plus givers are becoming fewer quickly.
  • Giving to vision has never been more important.
  • Denominational support is waning dramatically.
  • Churches must behave more like other nonprofits to seek sufficient financial support.
  • Attendance decline is the single greatest correlate to giving decline.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:
* How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
* Pushpay
* Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Sam Rainer and Thom Rainer discuss four mindset changes church leaders must make in 2021.

2019 is not coming back.
Evangelism is not just another ministry.
You can't hold on to all of your members at any cost.
Giving will not be the same.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Evangelism in the Early Church by Michael Green
  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Pushpay
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Eric Geiger is the Senior Pastor of Mariners Church in Irvine, California. Before moving to Southern California, Eric served as senior vice-president for LifeWay Christian Resources. Eric received his doctorate in leadership and church ministry from Southern Seminary. Eric has authored or co-authored several books including the best-selling church leadership book, Simple Church. Eric is married to Kaye, and they have two daughters: Eden and Evie. During his free time, Eric enjoys dating his wife, taking his daughters to the beach, and playing basketball.

Give us a quick overview of your ministry at Mariners.
How did you first meet my dad? What are some memorable moments between you?
Tell us what first pointed you to the Simple Church research.
How did Simple Church change your life?
What would you say to someone reading Simple Church for the first time today?
How can Simple Church be helpful to a leader in the post-COVID world?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Eric Geiger
  • DaddyGeiger Instagram
  • Eric Geiger raps with Mandisa
  • Simple Church: Returning to God's Process for Making Disciples
  • Belay
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Thom and Sam have a fascinating discussion regarding the number one missing ingredient in church leadership.

Accountability: It's more than a system. It's more than theology. It's a spiritual discipline.
Pray that God will introduce people and situations to keep you accountable.
Don't rely on just your church for accountability. 
Make accountability a priority.
Create overlapping circles of accountability.
Be public about who holds you accountable.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Vanderbloemen Search Group
  • Christian Teams
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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As a pastor, you are part of the body of Christ. Within the body, friendship is important, even for pastors. Thom and Sam discuss friendship with church members and offer sound advice for pastors. 

Yes! But we've all been burned... badly.
Friends outside the church are necessary but often too distant.
Every pastor should have at least one close friend inside the church.
Discern your true friends through four filters: Presence, protection, truthfulness, and trustworthiness. 

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Radical Mentoring
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Depending on your definition, most churches fall into the category of established. Thankfully, It is no longer uncool to lead an established church. Thom and Sam talk through five often-overlooked benefits of established churches.

Current revenue stream (you have at least some resources)
Predetermined location (you already know where you are called)
The existing commitment level of people (belonging to a church)
Existing facility (roof over your head)
Rhythms and patterns of programming (volunteers in place)

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Revitalize Network
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Toni Nieuwhof joins Thom and Sam to share what every church leader needs to know about the messiness of divorce.

Toni Nieuwhof is an attorney, pharmacist and church leader who, along with her husband, Carey Nieuwhof, founded Connexus Church north of Toronto Canada. Already a published author in the legal field, Toni’s first general release book on marriage will be published in 2021. Toni has spoken in front of leaders in Canada, the US and around the world about marriage and relational health. Her practice as a divorce attorney and her extensive experience in ministry have given her a unique vantage point and a passion for serving couples who want to leave their unhappiness behind, not their marriage.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Before You Split: Find What You Really Want for the Future of Your Marriage by Toni Nieuwhof
  • ToniNieuwhof.com
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Are you looking to be more positive in the new year? Today we look at how destructive negativity can be for you and your team. On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam discuss the 100 factor of negativity.

  • Every negative word has the power of one hundred positive words.
  • Negativity has many variants: Cynicism, speculation, misinformation, and selectivity.
  • Assume the best. Optimists take people to a better place.
  • Keep score. Not of others. Of yourself.
  • Avoid correcting others on social media.
  • Have a weekly strategy of positivity.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • The 100 Factor of Negativity Article - ChurchAnswers.com August 19, 2020
  • Belay
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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We are about to welcome in a new year! In today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam discuss five things you should do as you lead your church to a new year. 

Emphasize again the church's vision and/or purpose.
Review your outwardly focused plans for the new year.
Check in with key leaders and/or influencers in the church.
Become a continuous learner.
Lead from a posture of hope.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Invite Your One
  • Pray and Go
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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You will likely have more guests on Christmas Eve than any other service throughout the year. Here are several reasons why people love traditional Christmas Eve services.

  • You will likely have more guests on Christmas Eve than any other service throughout the year
  • Nostalgia is a powerful emotion around the holidays
  • The community expects a more traditional experience at Christmas
  • Candlelight services are popular among almost every demographic group
  • Any church can do a traditional Christmas Eve service 
  • Always share the gospel in a Christmas Eve service 

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • PushPay
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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We have an incredible interview with Kristyn Getty to talk with her about the new album from Keith and Kristyn Getty, Evensong, which reached number 1 on Billboard in the Kid’s Album category.

  • New album released in early October: Evensong: Hymns and Lullabies at the Close of Day.
  • Born out of the thoughts, songs, and prayers the Gettys use to close each day with their own family, this project features a mixture of lullabies and hymns to help families and individuals alike declutter the mind and comfort the heart.
  • In the week of its debut, Evensong topped the Billboard Charts at #1 in the Kid’s Album category, surpassing the storied soundtrack to Disney’s Frozen 2 for the first time in 36 weeks as the most popular Children’s project in the United States.
  • “During these uncertain times, the need for restful contemplation and focusing on the Word of God is more important than ever for Christians throughout the world. I hope these songs help people dwell on the Lord and His promises; to release a burdened mind, to calm a restless heart and point us towards real peace in Christ”

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Evensong project from the Gettys
  • Smart Church Solutions
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Are you contemplating leaving pastoral leadership for other areas of Christian ministry? Sam has an intimate conversation with Thom regarding the reasons behind his conscious and prayerful decision to stop preaching.

  • Overcoming the concern that I was not being obedient to my call
  • I had not been a pastor for many years, only supply and interim preaching
  • My sense of call to be a church member
  • The desire to be active in my sons' churches
  • The volunteer ministries of which I am a part

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Radical Mentoring
  • BELAY
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Thom and Sam Rainer discuss practical ways to effectively minister to church members we can’t visit during this difficult time of quarantine and social distancing. 

  • Call them.
  • Make certain the church sends a digital prayer list every week.
  • Organize small groups to call them and write them.
  • Stay in touch with their family members.
  • Seek to start a new caring ministry.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • How Your Church Can Reach People In a Post-COVID World Ebook
  • Cosco & Associates
  • DivorceCare and GriefShare
  • Pray and Go
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission of Southeastern Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping Christians to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. One way we like to do that is by giving away free resources. You can get a free copy of Thom Rainer's E-Book, "How Your Church Can Reach People in the Post-Covid World" by visiting pastorscenter.org/free-books

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Pastor Steven Kyle from Hiland Park Baptist Church, has revitalized the church where he is serving with incredible growth. After growing a declining church from approximately 600 to over 2000, and expanding with two other multi-site campuses and revitalizing both dying churches, disaster hit. Twice. First Hurricane Michael, then Covid-19.

  • How did you plan for disaster relief and recovery before it was needed in the church and community?
  • Even though your buildings and campuses were damaged and unusable, how did the church continue to gather and minister?
  • What did you learn about rebuilding in a disaster in regards to insurance coverage and construction?
  • What systems did you put in place prior to and after the disaster that affected/stabilized giving during the disaster?
  • You have a very large church staff. How were you able to minister to your staff and their families in the aftermath of the hurricane?
  • How did your daily ministry change?
  • What did you learn from the Hurricane Recovery that is helping you in these pandemic days?
  • How do you define a win in a disaster recovery environment?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Cosco & Associates

Episode Sponsor:

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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On this episode of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam are joined by Kevin Harris, President of Radical Mentoring. We take some time to discuss how your church could benefit from a strong mentoring ministry.

In 2002, Kevin Harris, underwent a dramatic change as husband, father, and Jesus-follower through his experience as a mentee in a Radical Mentoring group. He is now the President of Radical Mentoring, a non-profit focused on equipping churches and mentors with resources and coaching to create disciple-making environments where the next generation can develop deep relationships with God and others. Before joining Radical Mentoring, Kevin led a sales team at Wells Real Estate Funds and served in sales positions at CNL and Atlas Energy. He and his wife Susan have two boys and live in Atlanta, GA.

  • Why is it important for churches to have a mentoring ministry?
  • What is the difference between mentoring, discipleship, and leadership development?
  • What’s the ideal outline/process for disciple-making?
  • What makes mentoring groups successful?
  • What Kingdom impact are you seeing from the churches you serve?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Radical Mentoring
  • Radical Mentoring Known Collective
  • Mentoring Launch Checklist
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership
  • How Your Church Can Reach People In A Post COVID World

Episode Sponsor:

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Members of the Church Answers community have filled our inboxes with questions dealing with unusual situations. Thom and Sam take an interesting look at five of these unusual situations for pastors.

  • Deciding to pay the salary of a dying minister on staff to his family after he dies
  • Being gifted a for-profit business
  • Running a movie theater
  • Being asked to do the funeral for a dog
  • Being sent screenshots of text messages between two married (to other people) church members who were having an affair

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • EST. Church Podcast
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership
  • Chemistry Staffing

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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An expert in practical local church leadership, Carey Nieuwhof joins Thom and Sam to discuss his most recent book and a few surprises of the post-quarantine church.

Carey Nieuwhof is a former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church. He’s the author of several best-selling books, including his latest, Didn’t See It Coming: Overcoming the Seven Greatest Challenges That No One Expects But Everyone Experiences.

Carey speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth. He writes one of today’s most widely read Christian leadership blogs at www.CareyNieuwhof.com, as well as hosts the top-rated Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast where he interviews some of today’s best leaders. His content is accessed over 1.3 million times a month by leaders.

  • Tell us some of the areas where you have been spending much of your time lately.
  • What is one positive surprise you have seen for churches in the post-quarantine era?
  • What is one negative surprise you have seen for churches in the post-quarantine era?
  • Do you think churches as a whole are adjusting well?
  • Where do you see some critical areas needed for change in churches today?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Carey Nieuwhof’s page
  • Carey Nieuwhof’s courses
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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It’s a tough word to say and requires wisdom to keep. We hear a lot about what we should and should not keep confidential. Today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership is packed full of great information for church leaders concerning the importance of confidentiality.

  • Always report abuse, no exceptions
  • Be careful when someone makes you promise confidentiality before telling you something
  • One mistake can cause a ripple effect with others
  • Do not sacrifice confidence with one person to gain with a group of others
  • Break confidence when you are concerned about the person's safety
  • Keep confidence even when it may hurt your reputation

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Radical Mentoring
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Today’s episode is fairly controversial as it deals with a very polarizing topic: Politics. How can the Church heal the negativity of the election season? Listen as Thom and Sam Rainer discuss five ways to tackle this very practical issue.

  • Listen first. Talk little.
  • Do not endorse individual candidates from the pulpit.
  • Guide your church in corporate prayer for our nation.
  • Speak directly into clear biblical issues.
  • Encourage on social media rather than debating.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Radical Mentoring
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Matt Steen and Todd Rhoades from Chemistry Staffing share their wealth of knowledge and help us understand five factors of a long-term, healthy fit when searching for your next team member.

Matt Steen is the co-founder of Chemistry Staffing. He has served the local church for over two decades as a youth pastor, church planter, and executive pastor. Originally from Baltimore, Matt currently lives in Orlando, with his wife Theresa, and has a B.S. in Youth Ministry from Nyack College and an M.Div. and MBA from Baylor University. Certified as an Urban Church Planter Coach by Redeemer City to City and as a StratOp facilitator by the Paterson Center, Matt has made a career of helping churches thrive through intentionality, clarity, and creating healthy cultures. He is convinced that a healthy church is led by a healthy team with great chemistry, and loves partnering with Chemistry’s churches to do great things for the Kingdom.

  • Theological Alignment
  • Cultural Fit
  • Personality Alignment
  • Skillset
  • Chemistry

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Chemistry Staffing
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

Episode Sponsor:

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

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Author Greg Atkinson joins Thom and Sam to discuss the importance of the guest experience in a post-COVID world.

Greg Atkinson is the Founder of Worship Impressions and the First Impressions Conference. Greg is an author, leadership coach, consultant, and member of the Forbes Coaching Council. Greg has worked with churches of all stages and sizes, including some of the largest and fastest-growing churches in the country, as well as with businesses, non-profits, and organizations such as Josh McDowell Ministries.

  • You have focused a lot of your work on the church guest experience. What changes are you seeing in this area due to the pandemic?

  • What does hospitality look like in churches during this season?

  • What are some effective ways churches can provide a great guest experience for online guests?

  • What are some simple, practical things a church can do to welcome and retain new guests as in-person services resume?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Greg Atkinson
  • Secrets of a Secret Shopper: Reaching and Keeping Church Guests by Greg Atkinson
  • First Impressions Conference
  • Hospitality Ministry Volunteer Handbook: Equipping You to Serve
  • Letter to a Young Pastor - by Eric E. Peterson
  • Free 30-day trial Church Answers Silver membership

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When Eric Peterson became the pastor of a brand-new church, he quickly sought guidance from his dad, pastor Eugene Peterson, author of The Message and 30+ books. The intimate correspondence that followed between father and son is captured in Letters to a Young Pastor. Reading this book is like being personally mentored by Eugene as he reflects on pastoral ministry in all its complexity.

In turn, Eric then wrote Letters to a Young Congregation; his collection of honest and convicting letters written to his growing church. It addresses the essential questions every pastor wants their church members to answer.

Read the first letter of each book at LettersToAYoungPastor.com

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

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Tim Cool from Smart Church Solutions joins Sam and Thom on this episode of Rainer on Leadership to discuss Tim’s new book and how church leaders can be intentional stewards of church facilities.

We have talked about this concept several times, why write a book?
Why is now such a critical time for churches to understand these concepts?
Who should read this book?
Will this provide all a church needs to know?
What are the next steps after reading the book?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Entrusted: A Guide to Intentional Church Facility Stewardship by Tim Cool
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Smart Church Solutions
  • Smart Church Solutions Facebook
  • Church Facility Evaluator
  • Contact Smart Church Solutions
  • Email Tim Cool
  • Chasing Vines by Beth Moore

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God wants you to flourish. We all know life is not always fun, but it can always bear fruit. Join Beth Moore on a six-session journey to discover what it means to abide in Christ and to bear fruit. The six-session Chasing Vines Group Experience is a topical study you don’t want to miss. For information on Beth’s Chasing Vines book, the group study, and the DVD, go to ChasingVines.com

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

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Are you feeling numb to all that is happening around you, the decisions which need to be made, and the responsibilities in front of you? In this episode of Rainer on Leadership, we discuss overcoming the numb feeling and moving forward in a post-quarantine era.

All leaders can fall flat for a season, but detachment is not the answer.
Listen more to your confidants than your feelings.
Find joy in little victories.
Focus more on relationships and less on strategy.
Stop blaming individuals and start solving problems.
Serve your way through the numbness.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • The Post Quarantine Church by Dr. Thom S. Rainer
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Tuvalu
  • Chasing Vines by Beth Moore

Episode Sponsor:

God wants you to flourish. We all know life is not always fun, but it can always bear fruit. Join Beth Moore on a six-session journey to discover what it means to abide in Christ and to bear fruit. The six-session Chasing Vines Group Experience is a topical study you don’t want to miss. For information on Beth’s Chasing Vines book, the group study, and the DVD, go to ChasingVines.com

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

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We all know life will be different in the post-quarantine era. The church has fundamentally changed and many pastors are grappling with what the Church will look like in the coming years. Dr. Rainer and Sam Rainer discuss five reasons why the speed of change must accelerate in your church in the post-quarantine era.

COVID-19 accelerated negative change in your church by three to five years.
Most churches have moved to an extreme inward focus.
Your church may decline rapidly or die soon.
Your pastor may leave.
Evangelism is all but non-existent in many churches.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • The Post Quarantine Church by Dr. Thom S. Rainer
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Church Answers - Six Reasons Your Pastor is About to Quit
  • Chasing Vines by Beth Moore

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God wants you to flourish. We all know life is not always fun, but it can always bear fruit. Join Beth Moore on a six-session journey to discover what it means to abide in Christ and to bear fruit. The six-session Chasing Vines Group Experience is a topical study you don’t want to miss. For information on Beth’s Chasing Vines book, the group study, and the DVD, go to ChasingVines.com

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Today marks the release of Dr. Thom Rainer’s new book, The Post Quarantine Church: Six Urgent Challenges and Opportunities That Will Determine the Future of Your Congregation. Dr. Rainer’s new book provides timely insight into our new reality and answers to questions church leaders have when looking to the future.

  • Why did you write The Post-Quarantine Church?
  • How did you make your conclusions?
  • What is the greatest challenge for post-quarantine churches?
  • Where do you see the churches in three years?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • The Post Quarantine Church by Dr. Thom S. Rainer
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Chemistry Staffing
  • Filament Bibles
  • Church Answers

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After months of disruption, many of us are seeking to re-set and make Bible study a part of our daily plan. Tyndale is introducing the Filament Bible Collection, which brings inspiration together with innovation in a way that may forever change the way we read the Bible.This assortment of beautiful, portable Bibles comes with the Filament App, providing digital access to study notes, devotions, videos and worship music for the page you’re reading. Learn more at www.filamentbibles,com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership Thom Rainer and Sam Rainer discuss how to deal with constant critics and angry church members.

Try to discern the real issue.
Deal with legitimate issues.
Stop feeding temper tantrums.
Confront them when necessary.
Pray for them.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Filament Bibles
  • Church Answers

Episode Sponsor:

After months of disruption, many of us are seeking to re-set and make Bible study a part of our daily plan. Tyndale is introducing the Filament Bible Collection, which brings inspiration together with innovation in a way that may forever change the way we read the Bible.This assortment of beautiful, portable Bibles comes with the Filament App, providing digital access to study notes, devotions, videos and worship music for the page you’re reading. Learn more at www.filamentbibles,com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Adam Weber is the founder and lead pastor of Embrace, a multi-site church based out of Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Author of Talking With God and Love Has A Name, he also hosts a podcast called The Conversation. Adam still cheers for the Cincinnati Bengals but no longer drives a Rambler. He’s married to his wife, Becky, and has four kids: Hudson, Wilson, Grayson, & Anderson. He also has seven chickens, two dogs, & three fish, but what he really wants is a sheep.

Love has a Name: Learning to Love the Different, the Difficult, & Everyone Else is now available. What prompted Adam to write this book?
In a culture that seems more polarized by the day, how do we love the difficult, different, and downright hard-to-love people we come in contact with everyday?
What does love look like when people disagree with you in a polarized world?
What are some ways pastors and church leaders can lead with love, especially during a challenging season?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Love has a Name: Learning to Love the Different, the Difficult, & Everyone Else by Adam Weber
  • Love Has a Name Preaching Resources
  • The Conversation with Adam Weber podcast
  • One way to assist your church members to bridge the racial divide is through the Tyndale House Publishers’ Friendship Challenge. The Friendship Challenge is a practical 6-week program for individuals or groups to pursue racial reconciliation. The Friendship Challenge consists of a book and online videos to help you or your church heal racial division. For information go to https://www.tyndale.com/sites/thefriendshipchallenge/

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Tyndale recently launched a new website, tyndalechurchconnect.com/. The site supports church leaders with helpful content and resources from some of the world’s most trusted pastors and authors. You’ll find videos, study guides and book excerpts, along with some of Tyndale’s newest and most popular books and Bibles for churches and church leaders. Visit tyndalechurchconnect.com/ and sign up for the Church Connect e-newsletter to receive regular Church Connect updates by email. You can also learn how to get a free digital preview of my upcoming book, The Post-Quarantine Church—due to release in September.

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Tim Songster, CEO of Cosco & Associates, joins Thom and Sam to discuss COVID-19 and your church building. Tim shares great insights for understanding how building usage and church space design is changing during the pandemic.

  • How has COVID 19 changed the way your clients are using their buildings?
  • What immediate and maybe obvious things are churches you are working with adding to their facilities due to COVID 19?
  • What changes do you see coming in the design of various church spaces because of pandemics like COVID 19?

  • Restrooms?

  • Common areas?
  • Children areas?
  • Worship Centers?
  • Small Group spaces?
  • Offices?
  • Youth spaces?
  • New Spaces?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Cosco & Associates

One way to assist your church members to bridge the racial divide is through the Tyndale House Publishers’ Friendship Challenge. The Friendship Challenge is a practical 6-week program for individuals or groups to pursue racial reconciliation. The Friendship Challenge consists of a book and online videos to help you or your church heal racial division. For information go to https://www.tyndale.com/sites/thefriendshipchallenge/

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Tyndale recently launched a new website, tyndalechurchconnect.com/. The site supports church leaders with helpful content and resources from some of the world’s most trusted pastors and authors. You’ll find videos, study guides and book excerpts, along with some of Tyndale’s newest and most popular books and Bibles for churches and church leaders. Visit tyndalechurchconnect.com/ and sign up for the Church Connect e-newsletter to receive regular Church Connect updates by email. You can also learn how to get a free digital preview of my upcoming book, The Post-Quarantine Church—due to release in September.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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The number of people who have dropped out during the pandemic is a highly relevant topic for church leaders. A lot of leaders are wondering where these people have gone and more importantly, how to re-engage with these church members.

  • Guilt does not work.
  • Relationships are still vital.
  • Create a new group.
  • Ask them to participate in a ministry.
  • Get their opinion.
  • Pray for them.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Cool Solutions
  • Church Future Indicator
  • God And Mammon In America by Robert Wuthnow

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Tyndale recently launched a new website, tyndalechurchconnect.com/. The site supports church leaders with helpful content and resources from some of the world’s most trusted pastors and authors. You’ll find videos, study guides and book excerpts, along with some of Tyndale’s newest and most popular books and Bibles for churches and church leaders. Visit tyndalechurchconnect.com/ and sign up for the Church Connect e-newsletter to receive regular Church Connect updates by email. You can also learn how to get a free digital preview of my upcoming book, The Post-Quarantine Church—due to release in September.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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On today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Ron Beers joins us to discuss the new ministry partnership with Tyndale House Publishers and Church Answers.

Ron Beers has worked at Tyndale House Publishers since 1987, serving as editorial director for books and Bibles, as well as editor-in-chief; he currently serves as senior vice president and group publisher. He has written or co-written more than 30 books. Ron was involved in the creation of the Holy Bible, New Living Translation, and he has been a member of the Central Bible Translation Committee since 1988. Ron was also the creator and general editor of The Life Application Study Bible. He has been happily married since 1979 and has three grown children and seven grandchildren.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Tyndale Church Connect
  • The Post Quarantine Church by Thom S. Rainer
  • Life Application Study Bible
  • The Tyndale Foundation
  • Church Future Indicator

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Tyndale recently launched a new website, tyndalechurchconnect.com/. The site supports church leaders with helpful content and resources from some of the world’s most trusted pastors and authors. You’ll find videos, study guides and book excerpts, along with some of Tyndale’s newest and most popular books and Bibles for churches and church leaders. Visit tyndalechurchconnect.com/ and sign up for the Church Connect e-newsletter to receive regular Church Connect updates by email. You can also learn how to get a free digital preview of my upcoming book, The Post-Quarantine Church—due to release in September.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.

Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Stress free leadership does not exist. There are times when stress can become a problem. How do you know when stress is impacting you negatively? Today’s episode unpacks  four warning signs stress is beginning to impair your leadership.  

  • The questions of others are viewed as attacks
  • You take the mistakes of others as a personal letdown
  • Withdrawal is more about escape than spiritual retreat
  • You neglect key ministry problems

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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History is important. A key part of developing a strong vision for the future is having a good understanding of the past.  In today’s episode, Thom and Sam share five ways to honor your church’s past while not losing the future.

  • Have a genuine love for the history of your church 
  • Celebrate the parts of the past that support the vision
  • Tell the story of past change efforts with a positive perspective
  • Turn the legacy into a guide, not a hurdle
  • Ask elderly heroes to publicly give support 

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Landslide Creative

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Ed Stetzer is a professor and dean at Wheaton College who also serves as Executive Director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center. Stetzer has planted, revitalized, and pastored churches, trained pastors and church planters on six continents, has earned two master’s degrees and two doctorates, and has written hundreds of articles and a dozen books. He joins us today to talk about why people are addicted to outrage and four ways to walk a better path.

  • Your book Christians in the Age of Outrage: How to Bring Our Best When the World Is at Its Worst in 2018. What prompted you to write the book at that time?
  • Describe what you are seeing in today’s culture as it applies to outrage. How can Christians help rather than contribute to the problem?
  • Explain the four ways you describe to walk a better path are: being empathetic, responding with humility, seeing people as image bearing, and being sacrificial.
  • How can pastors and others in ministry help lead their members to choose a better path?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • March 11, 2020 article posted at Christianity Today - “People are Addicted to Outrage: Four Ways to Walk a Better Path”
  • Christians in the Age of Outrage: How to Bring Our Best When the World Is at Its Worst by Ed Stetzer
  • Christians at Our Best curriculum
  • Subversive Kingdom: Living as Agents of Gospel Transformation by Ed Stetzer

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Pastors and church staff have plenty of critics. The Church Answers team helps us understand how we can all choose to be an encouraging church member. 

  • The story of Stephanie Jackson
  • The heart of renewal in many churches
  • Pray for the disposition of encouragement daily
  • Create an intentionality
  • Pray for those you encouraged
  • Seek nothing in return

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers
  • Church Future Indicator

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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How can church leaders lead their remote teams with trust? Belay COO, Lisa Zeeveld joins Thom and Sam to discuss how to lead well remotely.

  • How can church leaders lead their remote teams with trust – and why?
  • What’s one thing you’d recommend church leaders do to make remote employees feel valued and ‘seen?’
  • How can remote church leaders learn to embrace conflict?
  • What’s one thing that a remote leader often overlooks that you’ve learned is invaluable as a remote leader?
  • Is there such a thing as too much communication?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace: Empowering Organizations by Encouraging People by Gary Chapman and Paul White
  • BELAY
  • Church Future Indicator

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What would happen if everyone showed up at church at the same time? The Rainer on Leadership team will tackle this question and help us understand the 64% factor.

Description:

  • Understanding the meaning of the 64% factor
  • Breaking the cycle of lower expectations
  • Dealing with the oft-repeated statement, "The church is the people, not a building."
  • Being willing to make the changes to give everyone an opportunity to participate in gathered worship.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • “What If All Our Church Attendees Showed Up at the Same Time? Five Thoughts” by Thom S. Rainer
  • FREE Church Answers Bronze Membership
  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Today’s special guest is Pastor Tyrone Barnette. Pastor Barnette shares with us how to listen and pray during a time of racial reconciliation. We are thankful for his ministry and wisdom during this important time of building unity.

Pastor Tyrone Barnette is the founder and senior pastor of Peace Baptist Church in Decatur, Georgia. The church was founded in 1993 in Pastor Barnette’s home, and has grown greatly since then, to over 3,000 members with an average of about 1,200 people attending on Sundays.

Pastor Barnette has preached the Gospel around the world, including Brazil and parts of Africa (where he helped build five churches and saw more than a thousand people give their lives to Christ). He’s also been to South Africa and formed partnerships with several churches there.

Tyrone has been married to his wife, Tabitha, for over 30 years. They have three wonderful children and one granddaughter.

Description:

  • How are you personally engaging?
  • How are you engaging your church?
  • What are the prayers you have for your community?
  • What is the best way for pastors to engage the topic?
  • What would you like to communicate that isn’t being heard?

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Churches are slowly beginning to reopen and are desiring to be responsible and safe. Listen in as we discuss the five most common ways churches are adding space for social distancing. 

  • They already have space, but they are providing new seating patterns.
  • They are adding overflow rooms.
  • They are adding Sunday morning services.
  • They are adding services other than Sunday morning.
  • They are alternating attendees.

Resources in today's episode:

  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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You may have heard it a time or two; the church is the people, not the building. But today, we are talking about the building and five ways your church facility is a tool for ministry. 

  • It is still the primary place for the gathered church.
  • You likely have a lot of unused space during the week.
  • One room can make a huge difference.
  • Many neighborhoods do not have a community center.
  • You can have multiple services on multiple days.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • “Unleashing the Church” by Frank Tillapaugh
  • Church Future Indicator

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At ChurchAnswers.com we have been walking with many church leaders who desire to open the window of opportunity presented as a result of the pandemic. Thom and Kevin Spratt discuss several reasons why church leaders have an incredible opportunity ahead of them.

Why Church Leaders Have an Incredible Window of Opportunity

  • Change has been a constant during the pandemic.
  • Your church members have been exposed to a variety of churches.
  • Church members likely have a new sense of what really matters.
  • You as a leader have learned to lead through change better.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • West Bradenton Baptist Church - Way Maker featuring Dee Black with Pete Siracuse
  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • Church Future Indicator

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Social media is a helpful tool for ministry but also a black hole for negativity. New York Times bestselling author John Eldredge joins us today to share strategies for being a positive influence in the negative world of social media.

Highlights:

John Eldredge is a bestselling author, a counselor, and a teacher. He is also president of Ransomed Heart, a ministry devoted to helping people discover the heart of God, recover their own hearts in God’s love, and learn to live in God’s kingdom. John and his wife, Stasi, live near Colorado Springs, Colorado.

The average American checks their phone 80 times a day; 70 percent keep it within reach while they sleep. In a culture constantly barraged by information at a frantic pace, it’s no wonder people feel numb and burnt out. In his new book, Get Your Life Back: Everyday Practices for a World Gone Mad (Nelson Books, Feb. 11, 2020), New York Times bestselling author John Eldredge provides readers with simple, ready-to-implement practices to regain control of their lives and heal their souls.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Get Your Life Back: Everyday Practices for a World Gone Mad by John Eldredge
  • Ransomed Heart
  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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From making phone calls and writing letters to online giving and virtual discipleship, as we return to in-person services, there are many strategies your church should keep doing. Thom and Sam discuss many of these strategies and their benefits on today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership.

Highlights:

  • Keep making phone calls and writing letters.
  • Keep building your church email list.
  • Keep moving people towards online giving.
  • Keep an option for groups via video calls.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Today we welcome Jordan Richmond, worship pastor at West Bradenton Baptist Church. We discuss practical ways leaders can make worship services better right now. Jordan has been married to Heather for 14 years and they've led worship together for all of it. They have 4 children. 

How to Make Worship Services BETTER Right Now

Check-in with your people personally.
Dig into technical areas where you need to improve
Think intimate. Not big. 
Go shorter. Not longer.

Resources

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Jordan Richmond's YouTube channel
  • Pro Tools

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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What does it mean to repurpose your church? What would it look like to repurpose during this time of change within the church. Guest Pastor Mike Glenn visits with Thom and Sam to discuss this new opportunity for your church. 

  • Let's begin with definitions. What does it mean to repurpose a church?
  • How has this issue become more obvious and important during the pandemic?
  • How would you distinguish repurposing from revitalization?
  • What are some practical steps churches can take right now?

Resources

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Mike Glenn
  • Know Your Community

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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We are incredibly thankful for the mothers in all our lives and are excited to celebrate the mothers in our lives. This very special episode of Rainer on Leadership features the wisdom and grace of the Rainer wives.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Today’s leadership lesson handles the common topic of servant leadership but with a different perspective. These seven ways to be a better servant leader for your church will hit home for many listeners.

  • Take the initiative with hurting people.
  • Offer genuine apologies.
  • Do not speak ill of others publicly.
  • Seek out real accountability.
  • Give sacrificially to your church.
  • Be the first to give up your personal preferences.
  • Volunteer for menial tasks.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Let’s talk finance and having a plan. Creating a financial plan for your church during this season raises many questions for pastors. Church leaders need to embrace this critical step as they lead during uncertain times.

  • Do best-case, expected-case, and worst-case scenario planning
  • Use any current-year cash surpluses first
  • Consider receiving funding from the CARES Act
  • Cut every unneeded budget line item to zero
  • Avoid dipping into a line of credit if at all possible
  • Expect and plan for a recession after the pandemic ends
  • Being a good steward and neighbor may mean keeping as many employed as possible

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Leading Virtually Site-Wide Sale

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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In this edition of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam interview Tim Cool, founder and chief solutions officer of Smart Church Solutions. Tim shares his checklist for reopening your facilities in the post-coronavirus world.

  • What do you see remaining the same when churches return to in-person services?
  • What are some of the major changes you expect?
  • Why should a church even worry about getting ready to return to its facilities?
  • Tell us about the checklist you are providing?
  • What else do church leaders need to know?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Post-Coronavirus Facility Reopening Checklist
  • Smart Church Solutions
  • 9 Ways the Digital World Is Transforming Teaching and Preaching Webinar

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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This season of isolation and social distancing has forced churches around the country to make hard decisions without an idea of what the other side holds. Listen in as Thom and Sam discuss the questions and best practices pastors are talking about right now on Church Answers and the five hard things churches must do right now.

  • Hit the reset button, not the pause button.
  • Keep as many employed as possible.
  • Experiment creatively
  • Stop complaining… now and forever.
  • Comply with the government’s request not to gather

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Church Answers Membership 60-Day Free Trial
  • 40% off - 16 Quick Adjustments resource

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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In a time when most churches are holding virtual services, Thom and Sam speak with Jess Rainer regarding best practices and benefits in moving to both digital and automated giving immediately.

  • What are the definitions of automated giving and digital giving?
  • Talk about how these methods of giving have been a blessing for your church.
  • Help us to understand why these methods of giving are important not only for the pandemic. but for the future.
  • How would you recommend a church leader encourage a senior adult to automated giving? Why might this path be easier than the typical digital giving channels?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Leading Virtually Sale
  • The Millennials - Thom S. Rainer and Jess Rainer

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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The current crisis has disrupted the normal practices of almost every church in America. From streaming services to digital giving, church leaders are learning quickly about the digital world and the creative ways technology is reaching people with the gospel.

  • Digital giving is a lot more important than they realized.
  • Senior adults adapt well to digital services for a season.
  • Short-term classes and studies do well in the digital world.
  • Personnel costs can be reduced in the digital world.
  • Prayer ministries are thriving in the digital world.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Leading Virtually Sale
  • Pushpay
  • Zoom Video Conferencing
  • WestB.org
  • Prayer.wb.org
  • Give.wb.org
  • Echo Prayer App

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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There are those out there who need to focus on expenses and creating a budget. But there is another segment struggling to figure out how to create more income. Thom and Sam talk with Art Rainer about his new book, Find More Money, and why Christians are reluctant to talk about earning money?

  • Why are Christians reluctant to talk about earning money?
  • What do most Christian financial experts write and talk about?
  • What are some reasons people need to find more money?
  • What is a side gig?
  • What are some of your experiences helping people find more money?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • ArtRainer.com
  • Find More Money - Art Rainer
  • Find More Money video
  • The Money Challenge: 30 Days of Discovering God's Design For You and Your Money by Art Rainer
  • The Marriage Challenge: A Finance Guide for Married Couples by Art Rainer
  • Rover.com

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Our listeners are waiting to return to in-person gatherings. But on this Good Friday, the Church Answers team wants to provide hope and encouragement by providing some helpful tips to keep your spirits up during this very difficult time in history.

It's understandable if you're struggling right now.

  • Be intentional about taking a break to do something you enjoy.
  • Start your day with prayer, not news. 
  • Connect to old friends with a call.
  • Encouraging others will give you a lift.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Leading Virtually Sale

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Vision is more than a mission and much more than core values. Clarity birthed from a strong vision is imperative to the success of any leader. Today’s special guest, Michael Hyatt, founder and CEO of Michael Hyatt & Co. and author of The Vision-Driver Leader, shares his personal story of discovering his need for a strong vision and desire to equip leaders of today and tomorrow in this critical area.

Highlights:

  • I love hearing your story about your transition from a corporate CEO to a platform leader and now to the founder and CEO of your own leadership development company. How did your visionary leadership change for each of these organizations?
  • Why do many vision statements not work?
  • What are some of the obstacles that keep a leader from creating a compelling vision? How do you overcome them?
  • What are some characteristics of an inspiring vision script?
  • Why is The Vision Driven Leader important for you as you equip leaders?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • MichaelHyatt.com
  • The Vision Driven Leader: 10 Questions to Focus Your Efforts, Energize Your Team, and Scale Your Business by Michael Hyatt
  • Leading Virtually Sale

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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If you are a pastor you are going to have seasons of doubt during leadership. Disruption can cause added stress and make leaders question their decisions. So how do we answer this universal question? How do you lead when you doubt yourself?

Highlights:

  • All leaders have seasons of doubt
  • Seek encouragement from friends and family
  • Challenge yourself with something new
  • Don't make decisions out of fear
  • Rely on prayer warriors in the church

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Revitalize 2020 - Virtual Conference Registration

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Every article dealing with the Coronavirus is a rehash of what everyone knows; we are in turbulent times. For leaders it is crucial to lead well even when so much is unknown. Thom and Sam discuss some best practices and how to shepherd your people during times of uncertainty.

Highlights:

Fear is an overriding emotion, especially when a lot of unknowns exist.
Above all, pray to the Sovereign Creator.
Let your church's legacy and past remind people of your resiliency.
Lead symbolically and inspire people.
Get people moving again through ministry.
Focus on what you can control.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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What do you think when you hear the word disrupted? When you’re thinking of that word it can be negative, but the reality is that the greatest movements in the church have occurred due to disruption. In today’s episode, Thom and Sam discuss many of the positive aspects of disruption within the church.

Highlights:

  • Disruption, properly understood, can be a good thing.
  • Many churches are declining and dying because they have not been disrupted.
  • An older example of disruption: multi-site
  • A current example of disruption: churches partnering with businesses for revenue.
  • Disruption is ultimately change leadership and has to be treated as such.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Know Your Community Report

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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The COVID-19 crisis has led churches to adopt a completely virtual format. These new platforms require pastors and leaders to evaluate and transform their normal styles of communicating with their audience. Thom and Sam give tips and best practices for speaking and preaching during this new era of gathering on today’s episode which was recorded from a Facebook Live event held last week.

Highlights:

  • Look at the camera
  • Dress appropriately
  • Don’t recreate your live experience
  • Get the right equipment
  • Reminder: You’re on camera

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator

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You are thinking about making a ministry transition. Maybe you will be visiting the church soon or perhaps the church has already called you to this new opportunity. Hopefully, you have already begun to think about your family. Thom and Sam discuss best practices and things to consider when preparing your family for a ministry transition.

Highlights:

  • Your spouse has the trump card
  • Shield your younger children as much as possible
  • Include your older children as much as possible
  • Keep ties to family friends
  • Build excitement for the new ministry and location

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Know Your Community Report

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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When thinking about writing and publishing a book there are a lot of questions. What’s the reason for writing, what should the process look like, and what are my publishing options are just a few of the questions Thom, Sam, and Jess Rainer answer on today’s Rainer on Leadership episode.g others.

Highlights:

  • Why should you publish a book?
  • What are the different options to publishing a book?
  • Why is guided publishing such a good route to go?
  • How do you get started publishing?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Know Your Community Report
  • Craft Book Company - Use the coupon RainerPodcast to get $200 off any product.

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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In today’s episode we talk with Josh Teis, pastor of Southern Hills located in Las Vegas Josh Teis. Along with an incredible church, Josh has also initiated an incredible movement called Idea Network. Idea Network and Josh are very much defined by the joy they exude. Thom and Sam talk with Josh about why joy is so effective and underestimated when leading others.

Highlights:

  • How do you maintain high levels of joy while shepherding?
  • How does joy show people the right direction?
  • Why is laughter a good leadership tool?
  • How does a leader's joy affect the culture of the church?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Josh Teis
  • Idea Network - Free Book
  • Revitalize 2020
  • Idea Network
  • Church Revitalization Certification

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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It is a common question asked by church leaders, especially pastors. What are some of the ways in which I can communicate interpersonally within the church to individuals or small groups who need to hear specific messages? Thom and Sam will be discussing which methods of personal communication work best in the church.

Highlights:

  • Personal communication is with individuals or small groups.
  • In-person communication is the most intimate and memorable.
  • Phone calls are important when both tone and content are necessary.
  • Use email when documentation is needed.
  • Text messages are good for communicating quickly but not for assigning tasks.
  • Letters are formal and should be utilized more positively than negatively.
  • Social media is the least effective form of personal communication.
  • Pay attention to new collaborative methods of communication, like Slack and Trello.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Know Your Community
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church by Thom S. Rainer
  • SamRainer.com - How Best to Communicate
  • GroupMe
  • Voxer
  • Marco Polo
  • Slack
  • Trello

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Churches with different types of worship services have probably felt the difference. Music, attendance, and personalities are big factors in creating energy within a worship service. In today’s episode, Thom and Sam evaluate several reasons why services may differ in levels of energy.

Highlights:

  • Yes, music is a factor.
  • Total attendance is a factor.
  • Seating can dramatically affect energy.
  • Time of day is sometimes a factor.
  • Probably the personalities of the people can be a major factor.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Know Your Community
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Church Revitalization Certification
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church by Thom S. Rainer
  • Church Answers Platinum

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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There are many reasons a staff member may announce their resignation. There are an equal amount of questions as to how long the staff member should stay after they announce their resignation. Thom and Sam discuss this important question and share their thoughts about how to approach this situation.

Highlights:

  • It depends.
  • Retirements are usually different than resignations.
  • The reason for the departure is a big factor.
  • Resources for the interim period are factors as well.
  • Moral failure calls for immediate departure.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Next: Pastoral Succession that Works by William Vanderbloemen
  • Church Future Indicator
  • How to Move Forward with Revitalizing a Church Webinar
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church by Thom S. Rainer

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Gossip is an issue dealt with in scripture and a habit Christians are mandated not to take part in, but is unfortunately still a problem leaders deal with on a consistent basis. How do leaders deal with gossip in the church? Sam and Thom discuss common practices of church leaders who deal with gossip in the church and what we can learn from them.

Highlights:

  • Most leaders do nothing at all.
  • Some leaders have a designated person or persons to deal directly with the gossiper.
  • It is rare for the pastor to confront the gossiper directly.
  • Increasing numbers of churches are addressing it in a church covenant.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • How to Move Forward with Revitalizing a Church Webinar
  • I Will Sermon Series by Sam Rainer

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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You may feel like an expert on the topic of preaching, but we often don’t evaluate the changes taking place in the world of preaching. We will focus on four major changes to preaching within the past decade and the reason behind these changes.

Highlights:

  • More churches have multiple preachers/teachers.
  • More churches expect preachers to preach in different venues or sites.
  • Fewer churches expect preachers to preach two or more different sermons each week.
  • More preachers are largely done preparing their sermons by Wednesday or Thursday.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • How to Move Forward with Revitalizing a Church Webinar

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Vance Pitman is one of our favorite leaders. We are excited to share our recent interview with Vance as he shares his journey and the story behind his powerful new book, “Unburdened: Stop Living for Jesus So Jesus Can Live through You.”

Bio:

Vance Pitman is the pastor of Hope Church in Las Vegas, Nevada, a church he planted in 2001. He speaks across America and around the world to inspire people to join in God's eternal, redemptive mission of making disciples and multiplying the church among every tribe, tongue, people, and nation. He lives outside Las Vegas, Nevada, with his family.

Highlights:

  • How did an Alabama boy end up in Las Vegas?
  • Every book has a story behind it. What is your story about Unburdened?
  • Why do so many Christians work so hard and get so tired trying to live for Jesus?
  • You emphasize relationships as being key to following Jesus. Expand on that.
  • What are some other key points that a reader will take away from Unburdened?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Unburdened: Stop Living for Jesus So Jesus Can Live through You - by Vance Pitman
  • Vance Pitman Leadership Podcast
  • Revitalization Specialty Certification

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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To say we are excited about this new report is an understatement. Church Answers now offers an incredible demographic and psychographic report known as Know Your Community. A basic name for this incredible resource which will help you reach and love your community. Listen in as Thom and Sam discuss the report, how it was created, and why it is an important resource for your church and its future growth.

Highlights:

  • It's hard to reach your community if you don't know your community.
  • It's easier to love your community if you know your community.
  • The call to lead a church is a call the shepherd the community.
  • Perceived demographics are often different than actual demographics.
  • The Know Your Community report and how to get it.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • The Know Your Community Report
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Micro Consultations
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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The issue at hand is sensitive, but we want to provide clarity on best practices. How do you respond to key leaders who don’t attend church faithfully? Listen in as Thom and Sam provide five options for how to address this area of concern.

Highlights:

  • Option 1: Do nothing (and watch things get worse).
  • Option 2: Discover the reason behind the infrequent attendance.
  • Option 3: Address the issue one-on-one with the person.
  • Option 4: Reset the criteria for leadership in the policies or bylaws.
  • Option 5: Ask ley leaders to sign a covenant.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • I Will - Thom S. Rainer
  • Example of a Church Covenant
  • Outreach Bundle

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Where do you find meaning in life? Family, career, your faith? Thom and Sam dive into current data from Pew Research to discover where many Americans find meaning in life and how it practically applies to your church.

Highlights:

  • Family (40% in closed-ended questions, 69% in open-ended questions). Some churches compete with culture; other churches complement culture.
  • Religious faith (20% and 20%). Churches should recognize the intensity of this issue for those who find meaning here.
  • Careers (4% and 34%). It's important, but it's not close to being the most important.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Pew Research - Where Americans Find Meaning in Life
  • The Discipleship Funnel - FREE Webinar

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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We think this episode is unique because of its specificity. Over the course of today’s episode of Rainer on Leadership, Thom and Sam debate the pros and cons of keeping pastoral candidates' identities confidential until being formally presented.

Highlights:

  • No. The congregation can't make an informed decision if they are told at the last minute.
  • Yes. The current church of the pastoral candidate will be stressed and in limbo until a decision is made.
  • No. If the call is meant to be, God will protect the candidate and the candidate's church.
  • Yes. If the call of the pastor fails, the pastor may effectively have no church.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Rainer on Leadership Episode #611
  • The Discipleship Funnel - FREE Webinar
  • Church Future Indicator
  • Evangelism in the 21st Century - Thom S. Rainer
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church - Thom S. Rainer

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Chuck Lawless from the Church Answers team joins us to talk about an exciting new tool created by Southeastern Seminary. The Church Future Indicator is a free tool everyone will want to get ahold of. The tool is helpful and gives great insight into where your church is headed.

Highlights:

  • A tool meant to be a motivator, not a discourager
  • The need for churches to face reality
  • The need for churches to have hope and solutions
  • Hint #1: The Primacy of Prayer
  • Hint #2: The Great Commission Is Still Great

Other Highlights:

A church cannot turnaround until they are ready to face reality.
The Church Future Indicator tool helps churches see hope for the future.
Praying churches are led by praying pastors.
It is a sin to be good when God has called us to be great.
The Great Commission is still great.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Future Indicator
  • Pray and Go
  • Breakout Churches - Thom S. Rainer

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Thom and Sam continue their conversation from episode #610 examining major trends churches can anticipate and prepare for in the coming year. While some of these trends will seem familiar, others will be new with the hope all will be informative and helpful for church growth.

Highlights:

  • Evangelism will return to its rightful place of importance and priority.
  • Fewer pastors and church staff members will be compensated full-time wages.
  • Fewer churches will align exclusively with denominations.

Other Highlights:

Churches will return to the basics and the call to the Great Commission.
There are a number of pastors choosing to become marketplace vocational, staying within the context of community businesses and ministering part-time for the church.
Contract work is a great opportunity for those who believe they may be called to ministry.
As the gig economy grows, the number of full-time staff members will decrease.
Many churches will identify with multiple organizations, networks, and denominations.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Rainer on Leadership - Episode #610
  • Church Consultation University
  • Evangelism in the 21st Century
  • Family Church - West Palm Beach, FL

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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We are one month into 2020 and there is much we can learn about anticipated trends and how churches can begin to connect the dots and prepare for the future. While some trends you will expect, others will be new and our hope is that these four trends will be informative.

Highlights:

  • Worship sizes will grow significantly smaller.
  • There will be a significant increase in the number of worship services offered at times other than Sunday morning.
  • Church facilities will undergo dramatic transformation.
  • Attendance will become a greater emphasis.

Other Highlights:

While average weekly attendance in worship will grow smaller this trend does not infer lower overall attendance.
The conversation among pastors is moving from size of worship space to quantity of worship opportunities.
Thursday evening worship services may become a popular choice for creating a new service time.
As churches build smaller worship space they will often times concurrently build larger community and common space.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers
  • Church Consultation University
  • Revitalize 2020
  • Church of the Year Nominations
  • Cosco & Associates

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Using research gleaned from the successes of turnaround churches, Thom and Sam reveal the five most significant single changes made by a turnaround church.

Highlights:

Concerted and intentional corporate prayer
A pastor-led outward focus
Necessary subtractions
A movement of focus
A pastoral commitment to stay

Other highlights:

Prayer is a key element in helping move your church from a negative tone to a positive tone.
Expecting your church to turnaround without prayer is an improper expectation.
Churches which are human centered are doomed for failure.
The church is not supposed to be a cafeteria for church members.
Turnaround in the church is usually not going to occur with a series of short-term pastors.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Anatomy of a Revived Church - Thom S. Rainer
  • Rainer on Leadership - Episode #607
  • SEBTS Church Future Indicator
  • Revitalize 2020 Convention
  • Simple Church
  • Church Consultation University
  • Church of the Year Nominations

Episode Sponsors
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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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If you can afford Netflix you can afford an online community where pastors can come together regularly at Church Answers Central. Today’s post comes from the blessing of pastors who have decided to focus on each other and four lessons they have learned from each other.

Highlights:

  • “I am not alone.”
  • “I am not crazy.”
  • “There are resources available.”
  • “There is hope.”

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers
  • Church Consultation University
  • Revitalize 2020
  • Church of the Year Nominations

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Our hope and prayer is for you to never need this podcast but our goal is to help leaders and prepare them for a variety of difficult situations. Today’s episode is sobering but helpful in giving guidance when faced with an extreme tragedy for families.

Highlights:

It is nothing less than the loss of a child.
Assurance and comfort are key for the parents and other loved ones.
The service should be a God-honoring traditional funeral.
The funeral should be the beginning point of ministry to the parents.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers
  • Church of the Year Nominations

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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While the thought of church bylaws may not interest you at first, what you don’t know about the complicated nature of church governing may very well lead to trouble. In today’s episode, Thom and Sam unpack why church bylaws exist and four signs of bad church bylaws.

Highlights:

  • When the bylaws are too complex and wieldy
  • When the bylaws are largely reactionary
  • When the bylaws are more "stop signs" than guides
  • When the bylaws are dated, particularly with important legal changes

Other highlights:

If your church bylaws are exciting then they are likely problematic.
Church bylaws are meant to reflect your current practices, not dictate what you are supposed to do.
Church bylaws should be proactive, not reactive.
As a leader, you must be an expert on your church bylaws.
Church bylaws should be exhaustively reviewed every three years.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Consulting University Webinar
  • Josh Bryant, Church General Counsel
  • Church Answers Consulting
  • Church of the Year Nominations

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Has a long-term pastor in your church retired? Is your church in crisis or conflict? Has the community surrounding you changed significantly? Sometimes churches are in need of a transitional pastor. Thom and Sam discuss what this specific role looks like, how it is different from a traditional interim pastor, and four occasions when your church may need a transitional pastor.

Highlights:

  • When a long-term pastor retires
  • When the church is in crisis or conflict
  • When the community has changed significantly
  • When the church has been inwardly focused for years

Other highlights:

If your church is in crisis or conflict you may need a transitional pastor.
A transitional pastor who can be more invested in the health and future of the church is essential following a crisis.
A transitional pastor may be able to help your church understand what it looks like to resemble the beauty and diversity of your community.
The movement from an inward focus to an outward focus is one of the greatest disruptions in the church.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers Consulting
  • Revitalize Network
  • The Disruption Mindset: Why Some Organizations Transform While Others Fail by Charlene Li
  • Church Consultation University Webinar
  • Know Your Community Report
  • Revitalize2020.com

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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But wait! There’s more. Part two of Thom and Sam’s discussion on success stories from churches on the verge of dying but recovered and are now thriving.

Highlights:

First 3 lessons covered episode #603

  • You have to make hard decisions now.
  • It is still about the Great Commission.
  • Membership still matters.
  • Reality is tough to face.

Other highlights:

Hard decisions should be made around the Great Commandment and the Great Commission.
We get so busy putting out fires and going to meetings, we don’t get to the business of the Church.
Distraction is one of the ways Satan slowly kills churches.
Churches are simultaneously fragile and resilient.
Don’t lower the standards of membership or leadership in a turnaround church.
Before a church is able to make a comeback, it must first ask for help.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Lessons Learned from Churches That Almost Died but Didn't (Part 1)
  • Revitalize and Replant
  • Membership Matters - Chuck Lawless
  • I Am a Church Member - Thom S. Rainer
  • I Will - Thom S. Rainer
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church - Thom S. Rainer
  • Church Consultation University Webinar

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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We talk about some really great news today. Thom and Sam discuss lessons learned from churches on the cusp of death who recovered and are now thriving.

Highlights:

  • There is always hope for churches.
  • A community desires a healthy church.
  • Prayer is foundational and essential.

Other highlights:

Even when you don’t think it can happen, God can work.
* If God can save any person, God can save any church.
A key element of leadership is inspiring hope in those you are leading.
A healthy church is good for the community.
* If you want your church revived you need a revival in your own soul.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Five Reason Rural and Small Town Churches are Making a Comeback
  • Anatomy of a Revived Church
  • Seven Habits Successful Church Consultants Develop in Their First Year - CCU Webinar

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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For Thom, it’s a present reality, for Sam it’s a prayer for the future. Listen as Thom and Sam discuss the attitudes each pray to avoid as senior adults in the church.

Highlights:

  • Have an entitled attitude because of my giving to the church
  • Say "I've done my time"
  • Focus more on recreation than serving
  • Complain
  • Be more concerned about my preferences than the needs of others
  • Lose my zeal for evangelism

Other highlights:

As a senior adult with discretionary income, give joyfully with no strings attached.
There is always a role for servants regardless of age.
For a senior adult with health issues, the role of prayer warrior is one way to stay connected to the church body.
Once you become preference driven, it is easier to become a complainer in the church.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • End of Year Sale
  • Pray and Go
  • Revitalize Network

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For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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There are good reasons and bad reasons to move from church to church. As leaders, it is important to understand healthy practices for when members of another church visit your church.

Highlights:

  • Listen to them.
  • Refuse to listen to them bash another pastor or church.
  • If necessary, suggest they reconcile with the pastor, staff, or members of their church.
  • In some cases, contact the pastor of their church.
  • Pray for all parties involved

Other Highlights:

Leaders don’t usually know why someone is considering a church move. Leaders must listen and listen with discernment.
Pastors have to work hard to push against a culture of complaining in the church.
Members who are disruptive at their previous church will likely be disruptive at their new church.
Handle criticism of another pastor as if the pastor is your friend.
Pray for all parties involved when members of another church visit your church.

Resources Mentioned:

  • End of Year Sale

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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The welcoming ministry at your church is incredibly vital to the growth of your church. Thom and Sam celebrate the progress being made and discuss how churches can continue to strengthen this ministry.

Highlights:

Celebrating the progress!
* The forgotten role of outside greeters
* Bring the tents back!
* Signage, signage, signage
* Still needed: sanctuary/worship service greeters

Other highlights:

Church greeters are not just for the inside of the building.
Welcome tents serve as a visual point of reference for guests.
Most church members don’t think about signage because they don’t need signage.
A church without good signage is like a home that says “no trespassing”.

How do we close the gap between visitors who arrive early and members who are always late?

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • End of Year Sale
  • Becoming a Welcoming Church
  • We Want You Here
  • Signage Checklist

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Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Nations on the verge of war use it. A group of children on the playground may even physically draw it. Regardless of who evokes it, the metaphor of a line in the sand is strong. Thom and Sam discuss the four occasions when a pastor should draw a line in the sand.

Highlights:

When there is a threat to core and foundational biblical issues.
* When the pastor's family is being attacked.
* When there is a toxic person wreaking havoc.
* When the church refuses to reach beyond its walls.

Other highlights:

A definition of heresy and what it’s not. Don’t overuse or expand the definition of heresy but defend the Gospel at all costs.
Always ask the question of intent and patterns when facing criticism of family.
A line in the sand may look like moving on to another calling.
A critic is rarely a toxic person.
What to do with an intentionally inward focused church.

  • Sam Rainer Online
  • End of Year Sale

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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What is the difference between church adoption, church fostering, and church revitalization? Thom and Sam have a helpful and interesting discussion on new trends taking place in North American congregations.

Highlights:

Church adoption: a church comes into the family.
* Church fostering: a church is brought into the family for the short term.
* Church revitalization: a church regains health internally.

Other highlights:

The term of adoption has been helpful and provided context for the new relationship.
Church fostering may lead to church adoption, but the goal should be to help and provide leadership for a season.
There is no loss in church fostering. It is simply called ministry.
The unintended by-product of church fostering, adoption, and revitalization is the creation of a strong leadership pipeline.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Church Answers
  • Revitalization Bundle
  • End of Year Sale

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Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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We hear more and more about attendance frequency becoming a pain point for many churches. After over a decade of having this conversation, Thom and Sam discuss the one key reason many churches are still fighting attendance declines.

Highlights:

Revisiting the Concept of Attendance Frequency
* The Priority/Expectations Factor
* The Weekend Worker Demographic
* The Focus on Us Instead of Them
* Groups, groups, groups

Other highlights:

For the church to exist it must gather.
One of three people in the U.S. workforce is unable to attend a Sunday morning service due to a work conflict.
The gig and entrepreneurial economy are having an impact on church attendance.
Personal preferences always kill priorities.
Group involvement can have a huge impact on church frequency.

  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Will - Nine Traits of the Outwardly Focused Christian
  • Gen Z Webinar

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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Thom and Sam spend today’s episode discussing seven fiercely defended traditions in the church, why these particular traditions are so sensitive to many, and how you can help leaders be agents of positive change within your congregations.

Highlights:

Worship Style
* Role of pastor
* Worship Time
* Specific rooms in the church facility
* Order of Worship
* One site only
* Business and committee structure of the church

Other highlights:

What is the biblical role of the pastor?
What is the "hired man" mentality?
How do the expectations of the pastor create tension?
The changing of service times disrupts people's lives more than you would think.
Even small changes in the order of worship can create tension because people feel the change.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • Putting an End to Worship Wars by Elmer Towns
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Gen Z Webinar - Seven Critical Ways Gen Z Will Shape the Church in 2020

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Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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What in the world is a Berry Bucket? If you don’t think this is a relevant topic for your church join Thom and Sam as they discuss the Berry Bucket and how it is often the source of church conflict.

Highlights:

Understanding the Concept of the Berry Bucket
Why Years Two and Three Are the Most Common Berry Bucket Conflict Years
The Communication Issues with the Berry Bucket
Surviving the Berry Bucket

Other highlights:

How is the Berry Bucket created?
How are existing church members threatened by the Berry Bucket?
Conflict with the Berry Bucket can depend upon what type of new church member is acquired.
It will benefit the leader to over communicate the wins and advantages of the Berry Bucket.
A pastor can change the pace of change with tenure.
A church may be declining in growth and still experience the difficult challenges of the Berry Bucket.

Resources:

  • 2020 Revitalize Network Convention
  • Books by Carl F. George
  • Church Answers
  • Cyber Week Deals/a>

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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Wouldn’t you like to know what the future holds for your church? Special guest Dave Travis from Generis joins Thom and Sam as they jump in their time machine and discuss issues and trends church leaders must know for 2020.

Highlights:

What are some demographic issues facing churches in 2020?
* Does church attendance matter?
* What is meant by "more compact facilities"?
* What is the future of smaller churches?
* What is the trend in video-based churches versus live preaching?

Other highlights:

What can church leaders learn from the long-story of demographics?
Where will millennials and future generations live and how does it impact church growth?
What tools can be used to engage church members beyond Sunday?
What is the new dream for church growth and facility usage?
The 4 story process explained.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast:

  • What's Next 2020
  • Generis
  • Cyber Week Deal

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Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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In today’s episode, Thom and Sam discuss an incredibly common topic and major pain point for many churches: change and why resistance to change exists.

Highlights:

The hunger for stability in a rapidly changing culture.
Church members confusing desires with doctrine.
The issues surrounding slow pace of change in most churches.
The large gap between leadership pace and congregational pace.

Other highlights:

Sometimes church members confuse desire with doctrine.
There is nothing wrong with traditions, but traditions are not doctrine.
The more inward the church, the more resistant that church will be to change.
The more outward the church, the more receptive the church will be to change.
A pastor can change the pace of change with tenure.
How we bring people into the church will influence the pace of change.

Resources:

  • 48hr Black Friday Sale
  • Obstacles in the Established Church: How Leaders Overcome Them
  • EST Podcast
  • Church Answers

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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Today Thom and Sam discuss the purpose of the local church as a key instrument of the Great Commission. Discipleship is the primary tool the church uses to fulfill the Great Commission. The conversation today covers the importance of making disciples and characteristics of discipleship.

The difference between decisions and disciples
The biblical path of the early Church
Accountability is difficult outside of the local church
Fighting perceptions about the local church

Other highlights:

In the Great Commission, the decision to follow Christ is the decision to be a disciple.
The instrument God uses to make disciples is the local church.
If you become a member of the local church, then you are expressing a willingness to be held accountable.
The church doesn’t exist for itself, but as a representative of the gospel in the community.

Resources:

  • Effective Rural Church Coaching
  • Evangelism in the 21st Century: The Critical Issues
  • Evangelism in the Early Church
  • EST Podcast
  • Revitalize & Replant Podcast
  • Revitalization Hero Story

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
To learn more about all 12 of Vanderbloemen's Differences, visit VanderDifference.com.

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Are you following a long-term pastor? Did a long-tenured pastor return to your church as a member? Thom and Sam discuss five considerations when following a long-tenured pastor. This is a great episode about leading well and honoring those who have come before you.

Honor your predecessor. No disparaging comments.
For a season, let your predecessor know about major changes.
Consider taking your predecessor up on any offer to stay away for a while.
If appropriate, ask your predecessor to preach on occasion.
Be respectful of any family members of your predecessor in the church.

Other highlights:

Starting with negativity is a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially in the church.
The longer the tenure of a pastor the more ingrained in the community they become.
The best way to get support from a predecessor is to keep in regular communication.
The good leaders will step away from a ministry if only for a season, to allow the new leader to establish themselves.

Resources:

  • SEBTS MA Church Revitalization
  • Effective Rural Church Coaching

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The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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Church practices change with cultural norms. The norm in the church used to be everyone gathering at one time in one place. Today, Thom and Sam discuss changing church practices and five ways to address an oversized sanctuary.

5 Ways to Address the Oversized Sanctuary:

Understand the "why" behind the trends.
* Use curtains or ropes.
* Close off the balcony.
* Remodel the facility.
* Focus on a larger fellowship area.

Other highlights:

A common renovation in churches today include expanding the lobby or common space and reducing the main worship center.
The average size of a new worship center is getting smaller.
Large worship centers were built because church practice required one service each morning. Today churches hold multiple services requiring less space for Sunday worship.
Culturally the fellowship time is now happening before and after the worship service. An open lobby space could revolutionize your church culture.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • Effective Rural Churches Webinar
  • EST.Church Podcast
  • Church Answers
  • Cosco & Associates

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Many churches are in the midst of their annual budgeting. Thom and Sam discuss five ways your church budget might be broken. Included in this episode are topics like processes, facility costs, personnel costs, and resourcing outward-focused ministry.

  • The budgeting process is old and stale.
    The church has not seriously examined its facility costs.
    The church has not seriously examined its personnel costs.
    Expenditures are almost all inwardly-focused.
    There is little thought given to Jerusalem. (Acts 1:8)

Other highlights:

Zero based budgeting forces your church to re-think every expenditure.
The longer you defer church maintenance costs the more expensive they may become.
Making personnel changes in a church doesn’t always mean deleting positions. Personnel changes could mean changing job descriptions.
Senior Pastor’s can’t ask staff members to be outwardly focused if they don’t resource them to be outwardly focused.

Resources:

  • Cool Solutions Group
  • Belay Solutions
  • 2020 Micro Consultations

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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From church idols to church busyness, Thom and Sam discuss the major reasons why your church might be stuck. Sometimes the reason a church is stuck is that there is a fear of change, other times because of a bully. Listen in as Thom and Sam talk about the issues and potential solutions.

Reasons a church might be stuck:

  • There is an idolatry of the past.
  • Critics and bullies are holding the church hostage.
  • The pastor has been burned in the past and fears leading change.
  • The church likes evangelism in theory only.
  • The church has become activity driven.

Other highlights:

The goal of fostering a church is to help them return to a state of independence.
Trust that breaks down will eventually be detrimental to any relationship.
Fostering is local churches helping local churches.
God gave you a specific address for a specific reason. Loving your neighbor applies to people and churches.
If leadership is not aligned, then you should not move forward.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • 2020 Micro Consultations
  • Simple Church
  • Zero-Based Church Scheduling Blog
  • Zero-Based Church Scheduling Podcast

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Today Thom and Sam discuss five problems of having too many “main things.” As the frequency of church attenders decreases you will depend on fewer people more frequently. Leaders will burn out those most committed to the church.

  • Church members cannot focus on more than one or two priorities.
    There is a challenge with infrequent attenders
    A leader cannot emphasize multiple main things well.
    One or more of the main things will fade.
    Members will grow weary.

Other highlights:

People today are busy. Is it possible that the church is contributing to the busyness of people?
Lack of focus is not due to an impure heart but a result of too many ideas.
Churches are declining because of fewer attendants and members attending less frequently.
Ideas become less potent when there is a flood of ideas that are never implemented.
When everything is a priority, nothing is.

Resources:

  • 2020 Micro Consultations

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
To learn more about all 12 of Vanderbloemen's Differences, visit VanderDifference.com.

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In today’s episode, Thom interviews Sam about four things your church should know about fostering another church. There are neighboring churches in your community struggling and need your church’s love. Listen in as the discussion covers leadership tips and boundaries for fostering churches.

  • The motive has to be pure.
  • Most fostering will not become adoptions.
  • The leadership factor still remains key.
  • Fostering beyond 18 to 24 months can create dependence.

Other highlights:

The goal of fostering a church is to help them return to a state of independence.
Trust that breaks down will eventually be detrimental to any relationship.
Fostering is local churches helping local churches.
God gave you a specific address for a specific reason. Loving your neighbor applies to people and churches.
If leadership is not aligned, then you should not move forward.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • Church Answers
  • Vanderbloemen Strategic Partnership
  • Vanderbloemen Expansion
  • Join Revitalize Network

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Today Thom and Sam welcome Joel Wayne, lead pastor for Chapel Pointe in Hudsonville, Michigan, and author of Steer: Eight Practices to Drive Leadership. In this episode, Joel discusses four neglected practices of leaders trying to shape culture. Key learning is to address splinters before they become infectious.

Four Often Neglected Practices of Most Leaders

  • Shaping (Shifting) Culture
  • Maintaining Motivation
  • Establishing Default Settings
  • Pulling Splinters

Other highlights:

In order to shape a culture, you have to know what you are shaping towards.
Every culture grows toward what feeds it.
We often begin meetings by critiquing things that are going bad. In order to change culture begin meetings by celebrating what is going well.
Remind your staff on a regular basis what God is doing in your midst.
Continual small nuggets of positive encouragement prevent you from having to come up with one big celebration.
Don’t wait to address problems that are blistering underneath the skin.
Splinters are potential infections. If you don’t address the splinter it will become a bigger problem later.

About Joel Wayne:

Joel Wayne has spent twenty years improving leadership and cultivating a healthy culture within organizations and churches in Connecticut, Kentucky, and Michigan. He currently serves as lead pastor for Chapel Pointe in Michigan and is the founder of VSI Leadership, a business and leadership consulting group. Joel's dynamic communication style conveys his enthusiasm for developing strong leaders focusing on VISION, STRATEGY, and IMPLEMENTATION to create an overall organizational reset. He currently lives in Michigan with his wife and four children.

Resources:

  • Steer: Eight Practices to Drive Leadership
  • Joel Wayne
  • 2020 Micro Consultations
  • Church Vision Statement

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
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Thom and Sam are joined by Dr. Chuck Lawless from Southeastern Seminary. Today’s discussion is on six shifts in church health and revitalization.

The six shifts:

  • The local church emphasis in church revitalization
  • The institutional emphasis in church revitalization
  • The micro-movement
  • The return to resource-led revitalization
  • The neighborhood church movement
  • The facility adjustment issue

Other highlights:

We are finally catching up on providing resources and training for church revitalization
In order for a big movement to happen, it is going to have to happen through the smaller neighborhood churches.
Pastors and other leaders often need a starting point for revitalization.
It is very common to find a large worship center and a small congregation.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • SEBTS MA in Church Revitalization
  • SEBTS MDIV in Church Revitalization
  • SEBTS DMIN Church Growth and Revitalization
  • Revitalize Network
  • Revitalize Network Annual Meeting
  • Church Answers
  • Cornerstone Bible Church
  • 2020 Micro Sign Up
  • Pray and Go
  • Church Answers Consulting
  • Cosco & Associates

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
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Does your welcoming ministry feel stale and stagnant? In today’s episode, Thom and Sam discuss four reasons why churches become less welcoming. Every ministry can get in a rut or routine. Listen in on how you can become a more welcoming church.

  • Leaders in your welcoming ministry are not getting constant reminders.
  • New members of your welcoming ministry have not been trained.
  • Pastors are failing to check for themselves.
  • Pastors take it off their priority list.

Other highlights:

A welcoming church has to be consistently persistent.
You have to be on your “A” game every week.
When visitors walk into a smaller church they are expecting to be welcomed well.
Consistent vision casting from the leader is important.
Any ministry has the potential to get into a rut and routine.
A guest’s first impression will begin to occur within the first 7 seconds of being onsite at your church.

Resources:

  • Becoming a Welcoming Church
  • Secret Guest Survey

Episode Sponsors
The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

Vanderbloemen has 12 Vanderbloemen Differences that allow them to serve their clients better than anyone else. One of those is Theology Matters. Vanderbloemen's staff has more seminary and theological experience than any other search firm with 250+ collective years of church leadership experience.
To learn more about all 12 of Vanderbloemen's Differences, visit VanderDifference.com.

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In this episode, Thom and Sam discuss a key barrier to church growth, parking. If you are leading a healthy and growing church parking will be an issue. Listen in as the discussion focuses on six ways churches are dealing with parking shortages.

The six questions from today’s podcast:

Ask key church leaders to park in remote places.
Some churches use shuttle parking, at least for a season.
More churches are starting a non-Sunday morning service to deal with space constraints like parking shortages.
When a church becomes multi-site, parking shortages are often relieved.
Nearby businesses are often happy to allow church members to park on their property.
Some churches reconfigure their parking for more effective use.

Other highlights:

Church leaders often arrive early and leave late and do not notice parking issues.
As culture has changed, we have fewer people coming to church per car.

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • I Am a Church Member
  • The Biggest Demographic Churches Are Missing
  • Sandals Church
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Revitalize and Replant

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Today’s episode is an important topic in the life of the church leader. Anxiety could come from a number of sources including staff, congregational members, elders, or other church expectations. Thom and Sam take this episode to give some tips on how to find help and stay healthy.

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Thom and Sam discuss the possible scenarios in which an internal candidate can transition into a lead pastor role. The discussion considers several perspectives including the internal candidate, external candidate, and potential impact on the church.

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Eric Roberts joins the podcast today to discuss how to build a worship ministry. Eric has created over 300 free videos to help churches raise up skilled worship leaders. Training through Eric’s ministry, worshiptheking.com, includes training on guitars, drums, sound, and much more.

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Every church has varying membership requirements. In today's podcast Thom and Sam discuss membership classes and the strengths and weaknesses of church expectations.

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The local church is responsible for engaging the community. Many churches today are declining because they are too inward focused. In today's episode Thom and Sam discuss the basics of engaging the community and neighborhoods around the church.

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Today’s episode features new co-host Sam Rainer, Lead Pastor of West Bradenton Baptist Church in Bradenton, FL and President of Church Answers. The discussion today is about neighborhood church adoption.

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This is Jonathan Howe’s last episode on the podcast. For those who may have missed it, he was recently named the Vice President for Communications at the SBC Executive Committee. So today, we are saying goodbye to “The Voice.”

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This is Jonathan Howe's last week on the podcast. For those who may have missed it, he was recently named the Vice President for Communications at the SBC Executive Committee. So this week, we are saying goodbye to "The Voice."

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • Church Answers

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen has been serving churches for nine years, but did you know that Vanderbloemen also serves Christian schools, nonprofits, and Christian businesses? So if you're listening, and you know a Christian school, nonprofit, or values-based business that is hiring, contact our friends at Vanderbloemen for your staffing needs.
For more information, visit Vanderbloemen.com.

The mission at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and fulfill the Great Commission. The school offers more than 40 different degree programs, including the new Master of Arts in Church Revitalization in partnership with Church Answers and the Revitalization Network. This 37-hour degree is designed to help students move established churches from flatlining to flourishing.
Learn about this program and more by visiting sebts.edu. Where are you going? Southeastern will help you get there.

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Your church can become more welcoming regardless of how welcoming you may think it already is. Today we cover six simple adjustments that cost little to nothing that will have exponentially great results.

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Increasing generosity is not just about asking for more money more often. It's about building the spiritual discipline of giving.

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We recently highlights seven changes are facing today. In this episode, we discuss how to combat these changes.

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We hear from hundreds and hundreds of pastors every week. Many of them are hurting. Today, we cover seven most common ways church members hurt their pastors.

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Troy Pollock from Pushpay joins us today to discuss church technology and how you can better reach Millennials in your church.

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Children of pastors often feel like they live in glass house. Today, we take a look at an older post from ThomRainer.com on their thoughts about being seen as a pastor's kid.

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What you celebrate, you become. And today we discuss ways churches can celebrate how God is working in them and through them.

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One of the most frequently asked questions we get asked relates to when it's time to take a pastorate or leave one. Today we cover seven ways to sense it's time to leave.

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Change in a church does not happen overnight. Leading a group of people to change takes time. Today we look at six reasons why longevity is so critical to change.

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Determining the correct pace of change is often the most important aspect of leading change—because change is needed in nearly every church situation.

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Metrics have a bad reputation in some churches. In others, they're too much of the focus. Today, we discus why you should take a balanced approach to metrics.

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When a pastor hears the phrase "People are saying . . . ", it brings a great deal of anxiety. But should it? Today, we discuss the reasons for the anxiety and how to deal with it.

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Pastoral attire seems to be a hot issue in almost every church. Today, we discuss the response to another recent podcast on the subject and provide a few updates.

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Debt can drag down a church's finances and keep it from being able to minister as it would like to. So when a church retires its debt, it's typically a cause for celebration.

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Pastoral vacations can lead to some disagreements between church members—mainly on whether or not the church should know it's coming. Today we discuss both sides of the issue.

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Every church thinks they're a guest friendly church. But as we discuss today, guest friendliness is not something at which every church excels.

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Church culture is important to the outreach of a church, and subsequently, how much members will invite others. Today we discuss how inviting can create and improve the church culture.

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When toxic members are present in a church, resources are spent on overcoming the fallout of toxic members. As a result, members are less likely to invite others to church.

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There is a pendulum swing in church leadership circles as it relates to the viewpoint of church metrics. Numbers and tracking numbers aren't inherently bad, but they can be abused.

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Churches who want to become healthier often need outside eyes and a fresh perspective. Today, we discuss how consultants (interventionists) can help.

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Pastoral attire has changed dramatically over the past few decades. Today, we examine why that has happened and how to adapt to this change.

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Preachers sometimes say some strange things from the pulpit. Today, we discuss some of the things that get said that can cause problems for a preacher.

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Almost every pastor has had to deal with being fired—often for little to no reason. Today, we discuss a recent post on the topic and explain it further.

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The pace of decline for many churches is accelerating. The stats are quite alarming. Today, we cover a recent post on the topic.

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Church members who are unifying are church members who pray for their church. Today, we discuss seven areas that you can pray for your pastor and church staff.

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Church members who are determined to be unifying can change the entire ethos of a church, and a church with unifying church members is a blessing to a pastor.

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We've discussed Sunday evening services before on the blog and podcast, but things haven't changed much in local churches. The services are still declining on the whole.

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The first 90 days of a pastor's tenure can set the tone for the future of ministry. Today, we update our discussion on the topic with some new insights.

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The Baby Boomer generation, one of America's largest generations, has shaped our churches for the past 75 years. Today, we discuss how to better reach them as they entire retirement.

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America's next generation, Gen Z, is starting to influence and shape the church. Today, we look at five specific characteristics of this generation and how they are influencing the church.

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Corporate worship is stale in many churches. These six additions can help re-engage your members during corporate worship and spur them to further ministry.

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Pastors are faced with different ethical and moral issues in society on an almost daily basis. Today we highlight six major cultural issues facing pastors and churches today.

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Churches lose members and attendees for a variety of reasons. Some good. Many not. Today, we review a recent blog post on the most common reasons people leave the church.

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When Pray and Go launched earlier this year, we were excited about the potential it had for creating an outward focus in churches. The early reports are strong indicators that this is happening in churches across the country.

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Groups are one of the most important factors in getting people to stick with a church. The community that is built in groups helps your church members become more well-rounded disciples.

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Almost every church has some kind of facility issue. From being too big or not big enough, facilities rarely match the pace of a church's growth or decline.

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How ministers are trained has radically changed over the past few decades thanks mainly to the rise of digital training. Today, we discuss these changes and where they might be headed.

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The way churches hire staff is changing. Today we begin a three-part series on emerging trends in the church with a discussion on church staffing.

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Pastors often are hurt by church members or church circumstances. Today we discuss how to deal with this hurt and why you shouldn't just throw in the towel at the first sign of hurt.

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Low attendance days happen in the life of every church. While they are often unavoidable, you can potentially improve them and make them fewer and farther between.

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After discussing who the nominally churched are in the last episode, today we focus on how to reach them.

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To reach the nominally churched and to get them more involved in church, you must first understand them. Today we discuss who the nominally churched are before we discuss how to reach them in the next episode.

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With the criticisms pastors get, it can be easy to have a quick temper. Today, we discuss reasons for losing your temper so that pastors may recognize them and better deal with them.

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Co-pastoring is rare but is also seen in some churches in different forms. Today we discuss the pros and cons of co-pastoring and some paths forward for the practice.

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Dying churches often exhibit symptoms of dying along the way. Today we cover seven of these symptoms and how to combat them.

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Autopsy of a Deceased Church highlighted 12 reasons churches die. This week, we are looking back at what we've learned in the five years since it was published and highlight a new related video resource.

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It sounds paradoxical, but some churches will see overall growth in attendance while their giving decreases. How is this possible? Today we explain.

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Taking risks is part of leadership. Today we discuss a few risks taken during my ministry and how some worked and how some didn't.

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Church splits aren't quite as prominent as they used to be, but they can still be a problem for some churches. Today, we discuss nine reasons for them.

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Churches and church leaders often struggle to know when to discontinue a ministry or to pivot to something else. Today, we discuss how to process the decision to discontinue a ministry in your church.

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There are often certain characteristics found in pastors who are effective preachers. Today, we discuss seven of those characteristics.

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Some church fights actually are fading. Today we discuss those and the reasons why they are fading.

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The practice of ordination has come under scrutiny recently, so we took the time in this episode to discuss its importance and the need to be thorough in the process of ordaining ministers.

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Groups are important to discipleship in the church. Today we discuss why both open and closed groups are needed and how they can benefit your church.

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Churches can sometimes make unwise decisions when it comes to building facilities. Today we cover seven of them and how to avoid them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If your church is running short on worship space, consider adding another service before adding millions of dollars of debt.
  • Churches should plan on maintenance because deferred maintenance will alway cost you more and your facilities will suffer.
  • A church gym is not a silver bullet to reach young families.
  • One of the biggest hidden deterrents to church growth is inadequate parking.

The seven facility mistakes we discuss are:

  • If we build it, they will come
  • Too big worship centers
  • Lack of master planning
  • Not planning on maintenance
  • Gyms will be our youth group
  • Too small gathering place
  • Inadequate parking

Resources mentioned in today's podcast

  • Cool Solutions Group
  • Envelope3
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Generis

Rainer on Leadership is a member of the LifeWay Leadership Podcast Network

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Today’s episode is sponsored by Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Midwestern offers more than 25 degrees at both undergraduate and masters level that are fully attainable online. From Business to Bible, Counseling to Christian education, prepare for your future at your own pace and in your own location.
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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped thousands of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Having someone walking along with you in ministry is important. Today we discuss how a coach can specifically help you as you look to lead a revitalization.

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We constantly hear from pastors wanting to see prayer increase in their churches. The secret to becoming a praying church is to...pray.

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Stewardship is important for churches, and to increase stewardship, you have to be intentional about it and you have to resource it well.

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The oldest members of Gen Z are just entering college and the work force. Today, we discuss a recent Wall Street Journal article on Gen Z and the generation's implications on the church.

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Corporate prayer is instrumental in shaping the DNA of a church. A praying church is often one who realizes that they are fully dependent on God's power.

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More people often means more problems. And that is the case with megachurches when it comes to finding pastors.

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We get a lot of questions through Church Answers and at the blog. Today, we take time to answer some of the unique ones we receive.

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Growth in a church doesn't have to be the result of a large strategy. Today we discuss how a few small things can lead to big growth.

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We are asked for insights into different areas of church life on a consistent basis. Today, we cover the seven most frequent issues pastors come to us with.

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Ministry can be disheartening at times. Today, we discuss how you can stay encouraged in ministry.

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Church facilities can cost churches more than they ever imagined. Without continuous assessments and upkeep, facilities can eat up funds that would be best used for ministry.

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Ministry routines and rhythms can get out of balance at times. Today we discuss what areas are commonly most in need of a reset for pastors.

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In episode 506, we discussed things former pastors missed from their time as a pastor. Today, we look at the other side of the coin and discuss things pastors don't miss.

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When pastors leave the pastorate, they inevitably miss certain things about pastoring. Today, we discuss the five we hear most frequently.

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We are starting to see more and more churches offer alternative worship service times. Today we discuss the when, where, and how of this trend.

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The term "internet church" brings a mix of emotions and reactions from church leaders, but if your church is online, there are a few best practices to cover. Today, we discuss eight of them.

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Worship attendance swings can be dramatic in local churches. Today we discuss why that is and how to combat it.

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Numbers are important, but they aren't ultimate in the church. Today, we discuss why you should be counting and how, but we also discuss how to avoid making numbers your focus.

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Critics are real in the church. And for many pastors, they are incessant. Today, we discuss how to deal with the constant critic in your church.

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We celebrate episode 500 with donuts and a discussion on why churches are really cranking up their intentional outreach this year.

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Church members and ministry circumstances can hurt pastors. It will happen, and pastors need a response plan. Today, we discuss how to handle being hurt in ministry.

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We kick off 2019 with 10 reasons we are optimistic about churches. From an openness to consulting to church revitalization, we are seeing God move in churches in fresh ways.

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Tim Songster of Cosco & Associates joins us to discuss his new book on healthy church design and how churches can best navigate through a building program.

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On this Christmas day, we discuss some common regrets by pastors as well as how to avoid and overcome them.

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Alignment is essential if you want a healthy church staff. Today we discuss how to improve the alignment of both your staff and your church.

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We've found that many pastors are forced out unknowingly by churches. Today, we cover five ways your church may unknowingly be pushing your pastor away.

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Not a week goes by without me being asked to recommend a resource for some aspect of stewardship in the church. Today, we cover five of the ones we recommend the most.

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Inward focus is natural for churches. It takes intentional effort and supernatural power to overcome this inward focus. Today, we discuss six reasons why it is so difficult to overcome.

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Interventions can meet a great need in churches—and many churches need them. Today we discuss five types of interventions, and I tell the story of my strangest church consultation moment.

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A call to ministry is intensely personal, but for many pastors the call shares a few common themes. Today, we discuss six of those themes.

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Sunday comes every week for a pastor. And that means a sermon needed nearly every week. Today, we discuss how to combat sermon block if and when that happens.

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Preaching trends are changing in churches. Today, we look at why many preachers are preaching less every year and why that's a good thing.

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Mike Harland joins us on the podcast to answer one of the biggest questions in church worship services today: why is it so loud?

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Like us all, pastors and church leaders only have a certain amount of time in their week. So it's important to know what can lead to time drain during the week.

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Honeymoons always end. There are somethings that can be done by a new pastor to extend them, but there are definitely some other things that can be done to cut them short.

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Data shows pastoral tenure is increasing. Today we examine why more pastorates are reaching double digit tenure.

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Social media can be great for expressing yourself, getting news, meeting new friends, and living out your faith. The problem comes when we post something not so smart. Today we cover six areas to avoid on social media.

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Groups that get donations usually have visibility of who gives what. But what about a church? Should a pastor know who is giving and how much? Today, we discuss.

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Miscarriage is a difficult live event for those going through it. It's often not handled well by ministers, either. Today we discuss how to better handle these events in life and ministry.

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We asked our members at Church Answers for the wildest criticisms they had ever received. The answers did not disappoint.

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Regret often comes when it's too late to change things in a church. Today, we discuss five of the most common regrets we hear from churches.

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We get a lot of questions here at Rainer on Leadership. Today, we take some time to talk about vacations with church members, altar calls, and the perfect pastoral work week.

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My latest book, Scrappy Church, was written to offer hope to churches who think they may not have a future. God is not done with your church yet.

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We need healthy churches. I've committed my ministry to helping churches grow healthier. But what does a healthy church look like? Today, we discuss seven traits they exhibit.

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Legacy giving, or inherited funds, is something that churches often do not pursue. Today we discuss why that's often a mistake and how to do so.

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We recently ran a Twitter poll to find out the most dealt with sacred cows in churches. The responses were both hilarious and worrisome.

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Handwritten notes are a lost art for many. Today, we discuss why they are so important and how you can use them to boost encouragement in your church and ministry.

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Leadership in the church tends to fall to those who are either the loudest or who want it the most instead of who is spiritually mature enough to handle it. Today we explore why this happens and how to avoid it.

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I recently announced the launch of Revitalize Network—a 501c3 nonprofit organization focused on helping churches revitalize. Today, we discuss the details of the network and how you can join us.

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With my upcoming retirement from LifeWay, we take time to look back on my 13 years as president. We discuss the challenges, the wins, the fun times, and the walk on the beach that changed the course of LifeWay forever.

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Declining attendance isn't as much of an issue in churches as declining frequency of attendance. Today we discuss those who miss frequently and how to solve that.

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Church unity is an issue in many churches. Fighting, gossip, and bullying can really play havoc on unity. Today, we discuss why and how churches can become more unified.

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Pastors often fall into the trap of being people pleasers. Today, we discuss why and how you can say no to requests or even demands from church members.

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Church staffing can be tricky in today's churches. On this episode we discuss reasons church staffing issues can hurt a church and how to deal with them.

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Discipleship is something churches say they do, but also something they don't always really understand. Today we explain why.

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Tim Cool joins us to discuss facility management and why a free building could be the most expensive building your church has.

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Many churches aspire to excellence, but unfortunately many of them miss the mark. Today we discuss how to excel in your church.

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Burnout is a real issue for many, and pastors are not exempt. Today we discuss how church members can help their pastor avoid it.

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Pastoral transition happens all the time. Today we discuss what makes for a successful interim pastorate and how InterimPastor.University can help.

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There are several things you can do in worship services to improve the experience for guests and members. Today we discuss five such things—four of which cost nothing.

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A recent LifeWay Research study reported on the invite habits of American churchgoers. Today, we examine the results and discuss how to correct the problems.

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William Vanderbloemen joins us to discuss the problems churches often face when they are pastorless.

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If churches want the next generation of members to give to their full potential, digital giving options are a must. Today, we explain why.

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Tony Morgan joins us to discuss statistical trends he's finding in churches today and what those trends can mean for your church in the future.

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Shannon Miles joins us today to discuss her new book, The Third Option, and the rise of working from home.

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Is your church aligned with God's intended mission for her? A post by Sam Rainer serves as the basis of today's discussion on warning signs that you might be drifting from God's mission.

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Money is a subject too many pastors avoid—but they shouldn't. It's important to preach and teach on biblical stewardship. Today we explain seven ways that can lead to increased giving.

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Guest friendliness has been a constant theme on this blog and podcast over the past few years. There's even a book that came out of these discussions. Today, we look at a classic post on the subject and unpack several ways churches actually push guests away.

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Every single day, 1,000 Boomers are hitting retirement age. This includes Boomer pastors. Today we discuss the consequences of this reality and also highlight why many are choosing Interim Pastor University to prepare for their next stage of ministry.

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Churches of the future will have many of the same components of churches today, but there are changes that will take place. Today, we cover five of those changes.

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Churches are asked often to help fund or partner in missions. Today, we discuss how to make those decisions thanks to a post by Sam Rainer.

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A recent study by LifeWay Research showed that 15% of church members have considered leaving their church in the past six months. Today, we discuss why.

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Jim Sheppard, CEO of Generis, joins us today to talk about a new, free eBook (The Big Shift) and to discuss how your church can best adapt to the changing patterns in church member attendance.

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I get asked this question on nearly a daily basis. Pastors from all over are wanting to know how to deal with angry church members.

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Josh Bryant, the Church Law Guru, joins us to discuss how your church can prepare for and respond to a #MeToo accusation.

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Sexual abuse in the Church has become a major issue for pastors and church leaders. Today, we discuss why this is an important moment for the Church to get right in the way things are handled.

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Podcast Episode #443

Chris Martin, the Millennial Evangelical, joins us to discuss Ministering to Millennials and how your church can better equip and engage Millennials.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Systematic theology and classical theological training are more popular with Millennials than previous generations.
  • We are seeing more theological interest in laity from Millennials than other generations.
  • The church is a family—it should act like one.
  • It's hard to hate someone you're praying for.

About Ministering to Millennials and Chris Martin
What if I told you that you could fill your church with Millennials in three easy steps? I'd be lying, that's what. What if I recommended you simply add some mood lighting to your worship, order some organic, fair trade coffee for your baristas, wear lots of plaid on stage, and then you'd have Millennials lining up to worship Jesus? Nope. Still lying. But what if I told you that by considering cultural trends and proclaiming the gospel, your church may have more opportunities to reach and equip Millennials than you do now? Now we might be onto something.
Chris Martin is a content strategist at LifeWay Christian Resources, a co-founder of LifeWay Social, and leader of the youth at City Church in Murfreesboro, TN. He founded MillennialEvangelical.com in 2014 to help pastors better understand, reach, and equip Millennials.

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Applications are now open for Vanderbloemen's fall pastor coaching network at their Houston headquarters in September and November. There are two networks - one for Lead Pastors and one for Executive Pastors. Each group is limited to 16 people. It's a roundtable, close-knit network where you will grow as a leader so that you can grow your team and ultimately grow your church.
If you’re interested in joining, visit vanderbloemen.com/coaching for more information.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • MillennialEvangelical.com
  • Ministering to Millen...

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Churches continue to be shaped by the changing digital world. Today, we discuss eight specific ways churches have been changed by technology and digital resources.

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Ministry never stops. Because of this, it can be quite exhausting. Today, we discuss how to combat this exhaustion.

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When it was published 15 years ago, The Unchurched Next Door provided insight into reaching those far from Christ with the gospel. Today, we review the book and the research that made it possible.

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Social media can be tricky for pastors and church staff. Who to connect with? Who to ignore? It's not easy, so today we provide seven tips for navigating Facebook.

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Staff reviews can be tricky for some pastors and church leaders. Today we discuss tips for doing those well.

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When Surprising Insights from the Unchurched released in the early 2000s, we didn't realize nearly 20 years later that the research would still ring true.

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Legal expert and lawyer Josh Bryant joins us to discuss the five most important legal issues facing churches today.

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Podcast Episode #435

Personnel teams at churches have a difficult job because they're often tasked with oversight of people they don't see but a few times a week. Today we discuss some of the challenges they face.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • To accurately assess someone's work performance, you need to have regular oversight of their work.
  • Pastors, make sure you're in regular communication with your personnel team.
  • All personnel confrontations and decisions should be well documented.
  • Office hours are often the most misunderstood aspect of vocational ministry.
  • Vocational ministry doesn't have an off switch.

The seven challenges we cover are:

  • The biggest: not being there every day
  • Listening to only one side of the story
  • Being unduly influenced by power groups or individuals
  • Showing favoritism to a staff person
  • Failing to document their work and conversations
  • Not fully understanding vocational ministry
  • Not fully understanding compensation and benefit issues

Episode Sponsors
The ministry landscape is changing, and the need for biblical training is more necessary than ever. It’s time to get your Master of Divinity degree. The M.Div --Midwestern Seminary's flagship degree program -- is the primary track for ministry preparation. At just 81 hours, the Midwestern M.Div offers a complete foundation for full-time ministry leaders, offering everything you need, and nothing you don’t. Join other students in vibrant Kansas City as you train in a unique collaborative environment focused on the local church or study online in your current ministry context. Midwestern Seminary is developing a discipleship culture devoted to the local church and committed to God’s unchanging Word. Why not start your training today?
Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Applications are now open for Vanderbloemen's fall pastor coaching network at their Houston headquarters in September and November. There are two networks - one for Lead Pastors and one for Executive Pastors. Each group is limited to 16 people. It's a roundtable, close-knit network where you will grow as a leader so that you can grow your team and ultimately grow your church.
If you’re interested in joining, visit vanderbloemen.com/coaching for more information.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • LifeWay Compensation Study
  • Compensation Handbook
  • Becoming a Welcoming Church
  • We Want You Here

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Sam Rainer joins us to talk about the established church and why pastors should love them. We also highlight an upcoming conference for pastors of established churches.

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Mondays can be difficult for pastors and church staff. Today we discuss why and how to combat those rough Mondays.

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Pastors often leave a church for another opportunity too soon. Today we discuss eight reasons pastors leave too soon and how to combat the urge to jump ship too early.

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We have the best listeners. Whenever we travel, we are privileged to meet so many of you. Today, we answer listener questions on the podcast.

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Pastors have busy schedules, so time management is critical. Today we look at seven items on a pastor's schedule and how you can best manage the time they take.

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Staff issues can derail a church. And when a pastor doesn't know how to lead a staff, it's a disaster waiting to happen. Today we discuss six issues pastors often struggle with when they have a staff to lead.

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There are so many things you think you know until you live it. Today we talk about several things pastors and church staff won't learn until they get on the job. And I also tell the story of my worst wedding ever.

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There are many myths that are pervasive which keep church members from actively inviting guests to church or initiating gospel conversations with them. Today, we debunk them.

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Church members leave churches. It happens. Sometimes it can be avoided, sometimes it cannot. Today we cover seven warning signs that someone might be about to leave the church.

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Karl Vaters joins us once again to talk about how small churches should focus on growing healthier—not necessarily larger.

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How you follow up with guests often determines whether or not they will stick at your church. So these six keys are important for guest retention and assimilation.

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Art Rainer joins us to talk about church budgets, budgeting tools, and how churches can free up more money toward missions.

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Pastors and church leaders are always asking about apps that can help their productivity. Today, we highlight 15 apps that can help you with productivity and your growth as a pastor.

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Podcast Episode #421

The ministers' housing allowance is an oft misunderstood benefit. Today, we discuss the future of the housing allowance and if/when it might go away.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches have moved away from providing parsonages for pastors.
  • Ultimately, I believe the ministers' housing allowance will be ruled on by the Supreme Court.
  • If you're getting a minsters' housing allowance right now, I encourage you to live like you're not—because it will eventually go away.
  • The housing allowance is the most amazing tax benefit ministers get.

The seven factors we cover are:

  • Understanding the background of the housing allowance
  • The status in the court system
  • Incumbent upon the minister to be prepared
  • Review of the package versus pay
  • Most churches cannot or will not make up lost income
  • Begin preparing now as if it goes away
  • It's ultimately about trusting God, not the tax code

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The ministry landscape is changing, and the need for biblical training is more necessary than ever. It’s time to get your Master of Divinity degree. The M.Div --Midwestern Seminary's flagship degree program -- is the primary track for ministry preparation. At just 81 hours, the Midwestern M.Div offers a complete foundation for full-time ministry leaders, offering everything you need, and nothing you don’t. Join other students in vibrant Kansas City as you train in a unique collaborative environment focused on the local church or study online in your current ministry context. Midwestern Seminary is developing a discipleship culture devoted to the local church and committed to God’s unchanging Word. Why not start your training today?
Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Our friends at Vanderbloemen Search Group help churches and ministries build great teams by finding their key staff, but did you know they have a ton of resources around team building? Their newest addition is TheCultureTool.com, a free comprehensive staff engagement survey to help you build, run, and keep a great team. It's brand new and still in beta, so check out TheCultureTool.com to be on the cutting edge of this new tool that will help you improve your church staff culture.
Visit TheCultureTool.com to learn more.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Becoming a Welcoming Church
  • We Want You Here

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Podcast Episode #420

I have been asked this question several hundred times in the course of my ministry. Today, we cover the answers for it—because it's not an easy answer.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • No matter what metric you look at in churches, many of them are just not healthy.
  • I don't like organ music because it reminds me of funerals.
  • One of the greatest points of resistance to change is in church music.
  • When you're in ministry, you shouldn't make any major ministry decision without praying with your spouse.
  • Just because you go from a church to a secular job doesn't mean you're out of ministry—you just have a new mission field.

The six considerations we cover are:

  • The reason for the increased frequency of the question
  • Have you and your spouse really prayed about the question?
  • Is the pressing issue something you can adjust?
  • Where will you go?
  • What is the degree of pressure?
  • Understanding the push and the pull

Episode Sponsors
Our friends at Vanderbloemen Search Group help churches and ministries build great teams by finding their key staff, but did you know they have a ton of resources around team building? Their newest addition is The Culture Tool, a free comprehensive staff engagement survey to help you build, run, and keep a great team. It's brand new and still in beta, so check out TheCultureTool.com to be on the cutting edge of this new tool that will help you improve your church staff culture.
Visit TheCultureTool.com to learn more.

The ministry landscape is changing, and the need for biblical training is more necessary than ever. It’s time to get your Master of Divinity degree. The M.Div --Midwestern Seminary's flagship degree program -- is the primary track for ministry preparation. At just 81 hours, the Midwestern M.Div offers a complete foundation for full-time ministry leaders, offering everything you need, and nothing you don’t. Join other students in vibrant Kansas City as you train in a unique collaborative environment focused on the local church or study online in your current ministry context. Midwestern Seminary is developing a discipleship culture devoted to the local church and committed to God’s unchanging Word. Why not start your training today?
Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Becoming a Welcoming Church
  • We Want You Here
  • Church Answers

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If you want to close the back door of your church and keep members longer, these eight traits should be evident in your church.

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Even though the economy has rebounded some churches still struggle financially—and some members struggle with giving faithfully. Today we cover the five reasons giving often decreases.

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This resource-laden episode walks through six predictions for the future of churches. We've seen these trends over the past few years and now they are becoming a reality.

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William Vanderbloemen joins us today to discuss the importance of workplace culture in the church.

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Most every church thinks it welcomes guests well. Unfortunately, many are not welcoming at all. Today we discuss what welcoming churches focus on to more effectively reach guests.

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Easter is just around the corner. So today, we take a look at nine keys to being a guest friendly congregation on Easter.

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The Worship Guru, Mike Harland, joins us again today to discuss how you can use your worship ministry to help become a more welcoming church.

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Pastors often face financial pressure because salaries depend on giving of the church. If giving drops, salaries can be in jeopardy. Today we look at what to do when that happens.

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Churches across America are facing facility issues ranging from lighting and code requirements to having too much space. Tim Songster from Cosco & Associates (ChurchDesign.com) joins us to discuss how best to deal with these issues.

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There's a continual dialogue between pastors and our team at ThomRainer.com and Church Answers. Because of this, we hear from pastors on an ongoing basis.

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Conflict is inevitable in the workplace. But there are things you can avoid that can help limit the conflict. Today, we cover six causes of conflict and how to overcome them.

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Echo chambers can be disastrous for leaders. Today we discuss ways you can protect yourself from leading in an echo chamber.

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Hiring in the church can be tricky at times. Today, we expound on a post by Chuck Lawless that looks at some warning signs to be on the lookout for when hiring a minister or staff member at your church.

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Listener questions are always fun to answer. Today we cover a wide-ranging group of topics and answer several pressing questions from listeners.

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The relationship between pastor and worship leader is one of the most important church staff relationships there is.

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I love that the pastors we routinely interact with are always looking to improve. Today, we examine seven areas to focus on as a pastor that will help you serve your church better.

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An inward focus often leads to an unhealthy church. Unhealthy churches drift from their mission. Today, we discuss how to combat mission drift.

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Podcast Episode #402

We turn our attention to denominations today and examine eight reasons many of them are struggling.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Getting angry about your circumstances never accomplishes anything.
  • One major reason denominations boomed in the late 20th century was because they were reaching cultural Christians.
  • Infighting often causes denominations to make up a fight just to make sure there's a fight going on.
  • Denominational infighting keeps the denomination from focusing on the Great Commission.
  • Statistics and numbers are a reflection of denominational reality.

The eight reasons for denominational struggle that we cover are:

  • The common factor used to be theology
  • Anger at change
  • Holding on to the methods of the past
  • Deflected blame
  • Infighting
  • Refusal to see reality
  • Attempts to change with old wineskins
  • Failure to see their clear purpose

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary is interested in helping you get to the field faster. And they’re serious about training leaders for the church. That’s why they’ve created the all-new Accelerate Program. In Midwestern’s Accelerate Program, students earn both Bachelor of Arts degree and Master of Divinity degree in just 5 years of intensive study. That’s a B.A. and an M.Div. at the same time. This innovative residential program combines rigorous academic training with practical ministry preparation, resulting in one of the most effective programs around, so that you can pursue your ministry calling as soon as possible.
Two degrees in five years – all in one program: Accelerate at Midwestern Seminary. Take the next step by visiting mbts.edu/accelerate.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

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Complexity cripples too many churches. They want to simplify, but don't know where to start. Today, we identify barriers to simplifying your church.

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We celebrate our 400th episode by discussing four keys for how churches can be successful in their ministry this year.

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After the discussion surrounding a blog post earlier this week, we look at the pertinent question surrounding the topic of the internet church: should you count them in your weekly worship number?

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Bryan Miles returns to the podcast to discuss how the virtual work environment is affecting churches and how churches can benefit from virtual workers.

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Church consultants can be very valuable and effective for churches if they are used well. Today we discuss when to get one, what to look for , ad what the outcome should be.

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Churches are busy. Some are too busy for their own good. So today, we discuss what a zero-based church schedule might look like and how to practice the exercise on your own.

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The Church Curmudgeon (David Paul Regier) joins us to talk about humor and worship in the church.

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A lot has changed in our world over the past 10 years. Today, we highlight some major shifts in the church.

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Our final episode of 2017 features listener questions ranging from topics of dying churches to leaving churches to dealing with grief.

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As we close out 2017, we answer a few questions from listeners. Like many questions we receive, these have a great deal to do with the changing church landscape.

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One of the most frequently asked questions I get deals with how to find time for sermon preparation. The key if finding a rhythm in your prep. Today we discuss how.

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Every year, we take a look a the trends we expect to see in the new year. Today, we look at the trends for 2018.

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Whether a church is in decline, plateaued, or growing, sticking to the status quo can hurt the church. Church is often needed, and to lead change, you often have to break out of the status quo.

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Ever known a leader who didn't lead? They may have had the position to do so, but just didn't follow through with the action. Today, we discuss why.

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Tim Cool returns to the podcast today to discuss facility issues churches often face and how you can tackle them in 2018.

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Decisions have to be made in the church. Unfortunately our desire to be nice and avoid hurting someone's feelings can often lead to either a bad decision or simply not making one that's needed.

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Dean Inserra joins us today to explain how City Church Tallahassee has used community events and organization to connect church members to the community.

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Groups are important to the vitality of a church. As we discuss today, groups are often the catalyst for healthy growth in a church.

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We often think of mentoring as passing on life skills. While that's true, in the church it can be used to pass on spiritual disciplines as well.

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Rarely do people push back against conventional wisdom. But as we share today, maybe they should.

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While some circumstances do call for quick pastoral turnover, it’s hard not to wonder if some churches fire their pastor (or the pastor bails) too quickly.

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Ready or not, Christmas is coming. That means churches are planning events, socials, and special services.

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Renowned Bible teacher Beth Moore joins us to tell her story on a special episode of Rainer on Leadership.

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Cold feet often plagues pastors and their decision making. Today we discuss reasons for this cold feet syndrome and how to battle it.

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Pastors often deal with discouragement on a weekly—or even daily—basis. Today we discuss how to fight ten sources of pastoral discouragement.

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Churches like to be busy. Unfortunately busyness can hurt a church's effectiveness. Today we discuss this problem and how to deal with it.

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Pastors and church staff do a lot of great things. Unfortunately, they sometimes do some stupid things too.

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Will Mancini joins us to discuss how churches can better connect with guests and mistakes they make that hurt those connections.

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Darrel Girardier joins us to discuss how bet to operate your church's communications efforts for both online and in print.

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We routinely hear from pastors' wives and ministry spouses. Their feedback is often heartbreaking. Today, we expound on their frustrations.

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Volunteers are important for churches. And it's even more important to keep them. Today, we discuss six ways churches often lose volunteers.

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Daniel Im joins us to discuss his new book, No Silver Bullets, and five shifts you can make that will radically your ministry.

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LifeWay research recently released a study of financial issues in the church. Today, we discuss these three issues and ways churches can better prepare themselves financially.

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Podcast Episode #368

Reactivity can hurt a pastor's ministry, but so many pastors are more reactive than proactive. Today, we examine seven traits of a proactive pastor.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When looking ahead, plan and communicate for the future.
  • A proactive pastor is one who brings chaos back to order.
  • The more you develop relationships, the more freedom you will have to lead.
  • Sermon prep should have more importance on your calendar than anything else you do as a pastor.
  • Proactive pastors do not focus on critics.
  • You will be hit with criticism as a pastor. How much will you let it detour you from what you're called to do?
  • You can't do away with critics, but you can do away with unhelpful reactions to them.
  • Emotions should follow actions, not determine them.

The seven characteristics we cover in this episode are:

  • Looks ahead.
  • Develops relationships well.
  • Calendars in blocks of time.
  • Does not focus on critics.
  • Finds joy in the day-to-day work of ministry.
  • Has a long-term perspective.
  • Prays for their own leadership.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary is interested in helping you get to the field faster. And they’re serious about training leaders for the church. That’s why they’ve created the all-new Accelerate Program. In Midwestern’s Accelerate Program, students earn both Bachelor of Arts degree and Master of Divinity degree in just 5 years of intensive study. That’s a B.A. and an M.Div. at the same time. This innovative residential program combines rigorous academic training with practical ministry preparation, resulting in one of the most effective programs around, so that you can pursue your ministry calling as soon as possible.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Five Big Problems for Small Churches, featuring Karl Vaters – Rainer on Leadership #338
  • Why It Takes Five to Seven Years to Become the Pastor of a Church
  • Revitalize & Replant

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Pastors often come seeking advice. Today, we cover ten of the most frequent requests we get.

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Growing as a leader is important to grow in ministry. Today, we discuss a post by Sam Rainer on the five ways you can grow as a leader in the church.

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Leaders in the church often struggle on their own. They are at their most effective when they have someone coaching them and pushing them to realize their full potential.

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Pastors and church staff are often evaluated poorly. This often stems from a lack of clarity as to what the job actually entails.

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Podcast Episode #363

Leaders often struggle to let go and move on. And it's often for one of these seven reasons.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors and church staff members in their 20s and 30s want to know how to finish well.
  • Coasting in ministry is basically telling God "I'm not going to do what you've called me to do."
  • If your church you pastor averages 200 in attendance, you have 200 people who think they're your boss.
  • Change can sometimes be easy for the leader and extremely difficult for those who work for the leader.

The seven symptoms we cover in this episode are:

  • Coasting.
  • Hanging on.
  • Weariness.
  • Misplaced identity.
  • Change aversion.
  • Failure to stay current.
  • Regret.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Millennials
  • Identity

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Mondays are ofter quite difficult for those in ministry. It's the day many want to throw in the towel. Today, we explain six reasons why you shouldn't quit.

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New campuses and new church plants often create an energy established churches and campuses do not. But how much of a difference does it make?

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Church revitalization, like several other things in the church, is not easy. There are no magic bullets, and because it's hard, church revitalization often fails.

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Churches are dying all over the country. However, their legacy of ministry can live on if the right decisions are made by the leadership.

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How much growth in growing churches is due to evangelism? Not as much as you would hope. We discuss effective evangelistic churches and more on this week's episode.

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We continue our focus on evangelism and churches by revealing five surprising insights that were found in the research on effective evangelistic churches.

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Ministries run on the backs of volunteers. Here are ten ways you can invest in your volunteers to create passionate servants in your ministry.

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Revitalization is needed in nearly two thirds of churches in America. Today we discuss four paths for revitalization and the challenges of each.

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Statistics of doom and gloom for churches are all the rage—especially for those who specialize in helping churches. But are they correct? Not always.

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The mind of a leader is important to his or her success. Today, we discuss seven thoughts that can derail your leadership decisions.

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Leaders often face decision making roadblocks that affect the health of their church or organization. Today we discuss how to overcome these roadblocks.

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Vocational ministry is not the cake walk many make it out to be. And sometimes men or women enter ministry for the wrong reasons.

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Leaders should desire to leave their church or organization better than when they arrived. Today, we tackle eight characteristics of leaders who leave a legacy that lasts.

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Dwayne Pickett, pastor of a large megachurch in Jackson, MS, joins us to discuss his new book and how inner city ministry isn't really that different than ministry in other contexts.

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In churches who are dying, you often hear statements like the ones we cover today. Today we explain how to identify the personalities of sick churches.

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Podcast Episode #347

We have discussed evangelism a lot over the past few weeks and even launched a new site focused on it at EvangelismRenewal.com. Today we discuss six statements that can kill evangelism in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Evangelism is often the least natural ministry in many churches.
  • If there is not explicit intentionality about evangelism, it will wane in a church.
  • Evangelism is not the sole responsibility of the pastor and church staff.
  • If we depend on a single evangelistic event, we abdicate our daily evangelistic responsibility.
  • Don't think of evangelism as a once-a-year church event.
  • We should be highly intentional and prayerful about connecting with unbelievers.
  • The most effective evangelistic churches have two main characteristics: obedience and prayer.

The six statements that kill evangelism are:

  • “That’s what we pay our pastor to do.”

  • “Our church members are just not evangelistic.”

  • “Our denomination does not help us.”

  • “We emphasize evangelism once a year in our church.”

  • “I don’t know anyone well who is not a Christian.”

  • “We don’t have the resources.”

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers
  • MBTS state t-shirts
  • InviteYourOne.com
  • The Unchurched Next Door

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Podcast Episode #346

It can be frustrating to work for a bad leader. But does that mean you have to leave immediately or attempt a coup? Not at all. Today we cover six steps to consider when you work for a bad leader.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A bad leader is not the same thing as a bad person.
  • A primary characteristic of the best leaders is decisiveness.
  • If you work for a bad leader, follow them in the areas you can.
  • You don't always have to have positional authority to have influence.
  • Good communication from a leader helps others know the reasoning behind decisions that are made.
  • If you are looking for the good in your leader, you will likely find it.
  • Praying for someone may not change that person, but it likely will change your heart toward them.
  • You will never work for (or be) a perfect leader.

The six steps we discuss are:

  • Support your leader.
  • Consider that you may be wrong.
  • Lead as best you can in your area.
  • If the relationship allows, ask non-threatening questions.
  • Seek to affirm your leader whenever it is possible and genuine.
  • Leave.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • How to Lead When Your Leader Is Not Leading Well
  • The Peter Principle
  • Church Answers
  • Leading from the Second Chair – Rainer on Leadership #072

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Podcast Episode #345

We get questions every day from several venues—blog comments, emails, tweets, and so many more. Here are the top 10 that we get the most and how to answer them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The starting point for a church's revitalization is different in every situation.
  • Your church is usually farther along in its need for revitalization than you realize.
  • It's amazing the number of pastors who haven't been trained to deal with church budgets.
  • Some people handle conflict and personnel well. Most don't.
  • Sometimes you must make the inevitable the immediate.
  • Changing your church's polity is not a magic bullet for church health.
  • It doesn't matter what type of church polity you have if you have the wrong people in leadership roles.

The 10 questions we cover are:

  • Where do I begin to lead my church toward revitalization?
  • What do I do about our aging church facilities?
  • How do I handle church financial issues?
  • How do I handle conflict and personnel issues?
  • What is the best leadership structure for a church?
  • What are the best practical ministry tools?
  • How do I establish a vision for my church?
  • How do I deal with power struggles in the church?
  • How do I lead change in the worship services?
  • Can I survive?

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers
  • MBTS state t-shirts
  • The Need for Church Replanting featuring Mark Clifton – Rainer on Leadership #320
  • Cool Solutions Group
  • The Importance of Church Facility Stewardship featuring Tim Cool – Rainer on Leadership #317
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Podcast Episode #344

Improving your preaching and teaching doesn't happen accidentally. It takes intentionality and work. And today we cover 15 ways you can improve your preaching or teaching.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Intentionality is always key to improvement.
  • What gets calendared gets done.
  • Sermon prep alone is not sufficient for the personal devotional life a pastor needs to have.
  • Pastors need to know their congregation. It's hard to preach to a congregation that you do not know.
  • One of the most important things you can do for your church is to pray for your pastor.
  • Every sermon should have solid exegesis, exposition, and application.
  • It's beneficial to take down notes on your preaching as soon as possible after you finish.

The 15 improvement suggestions we discuss are:

  • Assume you need to improve.

  • Consider the last time you intentionally improved your approach.

  • Read the Bible and pray every day.

  • Forsake sin in your life.

  • Spend more time with your congregation.

  • Enlist a prayer team.

  • Study preaching and teaching.

  • Listen to other preachers.

  • Invite others to help you prepare.

  • Simply and clearly answer the “what,” “so what,” and “now what” questions.

  • Practice.

  • Do immediate reflection.

  • Listen to and watch your own sermons or lessons.

  • Invite unchurched folks to listen to your sermons or lessons.

  • Take care of yourself physically.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers
  • The Pastor and Church Revitalization featuring Andrew Davis – Rainer on Leadership #332

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Podcast Episode #343

Stability is often a goal for churches. Unfortunately stable churches are often stagnant churches. So when we talk about stable churches today, it's in that context. And there are five reasons that can be a very bad thing for a church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Stable doctrine can be good thing. Stagnant ministry is not.
  • A stagnant church is not a church on mission.
  • Comfort is often the enemy of obedience.
  • For too many church members, the extent of their missions involvement is just giving money.
  • One of the biggest mistakes churches make is not being intentional about starting new groups.
  • If you're not creating new groups, your church is likely inwardly focused.
  • Being a part of a local church means making a commitment to focus on others.

The five points we cover are:

  • A stable church is not a church on mission.

  • Comfort is the enemy of obedience.

  • Stable churches are not reaching their communities.

  • Stable churches do not create new groups.

  • Members of stable churches want the focus to be on their preferences.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Five Reasons Why Stability Is Bad for a Church
  • Church Answers
  • Evangelism in the Early Church
  • Technicolor
  • PerceptGroup.com
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #342

Regular church attendance has waned in recent years as the commitment level from members has dropped. Today, we address five major reasons for this drop in attendance.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Is the church so important that you need to gather with other believers on a regular basis? Yes.
  • It is extremely difficult to make disciples of church members if you don't know where they are.
  • Culture is not causing churches to compromise. Churches are compromising and culture is saying it's okay.
  • The way you bring people into a church will show them the expected commitment level for the future.
  • Those who are leaders in the church set the example of commitment for the rest of the church.
  • If leaders in your church sporadically show up, the rest of the members will see that and follow suit.
  • Unfortunately, there are a significant number of Christians who don't see church attendance as important.

The five reasons we discuss are:

  • We are minimizing the importance of the local church.
  • We worship the idols of activities.
  • We take a lot of vacations from church.
  • We do not have high expectations of our members.
  • We make infrequent attendees leaders in our churches.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Cradle, the Cross, and the Crown

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Podcast Episode #341

There are danger signs in any vocation. But if you ignore these, it might be more than just your job that you lose—it could be your ministry that's lost. Thanks again to Chuck Lawless for the post from which these warning signs come.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Living for your days off is a miserable way to live in ministry.
  • If you consistently don't get enough rest and sleep, you likely won't produce good results at work.
  • Don't try to feed the congregation without first feeding yourself.
  • If you're not happy and content in the work to which God has called you, people will notice. You can't fake it.
  • Your family is your first line of ministry.
  • Pastors should invest in assistants to help with administrative work.
  • When you work a ministry schedule, you need a system for returning calls and emails.
  • Don't make friends just to use them as conduits to find your next place of ministry.

The 13 warning signs we cover are:

  • Living by a “get me through the day” philosophy.
  • Losing vision.
  • Developing poor sleep patterns.
  • Declining spiritual disciplines.
  • Repeating lessons and sermons.
  • Faking joy and excitement.
  • Frustrating family members.
  • Magnifying minors.
  • Failing to return emails and phone calls.
  • Misdirecting affections.
  • Decreasing exercise.
  • Focusing on a “grass is greener” syndrome.
  • Avoiding people who speak truth.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Seven Ways to Deal with Gnats in Ministry
  • BELAY (affiliate link)

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Podcast Episode #340

Raechel and Amanda from She Reads Truth join us to discuss how they got started, what went into the production of one of the hottest Bibles on the market, and what's next for the She Reads Truth family.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • She Reads Truth was born from the desire to read God's Word more.
  • "When we create reading plans, we want to let Scripture interpret Scripture."
  • The She Reads Truth Bible is a process over two years in the making.
  • The She Reads Truth Bible is intentionally designed to spotlight Scripture.
  • I have never seen anything take off like the She Reads Truth Bible.

About Raechel Myers and Amanda Bible Williams
Raechel Myers is always on the lookout for beauty, goodness, and truth in everyday life. Co-founder and CEO of She Reads Truth, Raechel has a bachelor’s degree in housing and environmental design, and is not afraid to paint a whole house over a long weekend. She longs to cook artisanal meals, but loves Chinese takeout. She lives south of Nashville, Tennessee, with her three favorite people.
Amanda Bible Williams likes words and books more than just about anything. She holds bachelor’s degrees in English and psychology, nearly a master’s in religion, and a deep love for a farmhouse east of Nashville, Tennessee, where she lives with her husband and their three children. Chief Content Officer of She Reads Truth, Amanda spends her days happily rearranging sentences and explaining that her maiden name really is Bible.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • She Reads Truth
  • SheReadsTruth.com
  • She Reads Truth App
  • She Reads Truth Bible

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Podcast Episode #339

If any of these danger signs are present in your church, you need to take note. They can signal decline, dead theology, or even death of the church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There is a growing danger of the exclusivity of Christ being lost in many churches.
  • Any rationale that minimizes evangelism is contrary to Scripture.
  • Evangelism doesn't just happen. It requires intentionality.
  • Actions should emanate from your preaching of the Word.
  • Your church's missions and evangelism should focus locally as well as globally.
  • When you insist on always getting your way in a relationship, the relationship eventually will deteriorate.

The five danger signs we cover are:

  • Doubts about the exclusivity of salvation through Christ.
  • Waning efforts at evangelism.
  • Making doctrine and works either/or.
  • Forgetting Jerusalem.
  • Fighting rather than going and doing.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Five Imminent Dangers in Churches

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Podcast Episode #338

Karl Vaters joins us to discuss issues found most often in small churches. However, these issues manifest themselves in any size church in any setting.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Small churches are not a problem, virtue, or excuse.
  • Just because your church is small does not mean you can't do good ministry.
  • There's not a single command to the New Testament church that can't be accomplished by a small church.
  • The sooner you can assess a Sunday service or church event the better.
  • Churches should purposefully and intentionally equip members for ministry.
  • It is a pastor's job (according to the New Testament) to equip others to do the work of ministry.

The five items we discuss are:

  • Holding on to Stale Traditions.
  • Poor or Nonexistent Planning.
  • Not Enough Assessment or Evaluation.
  • Too Much Inward Focus.
  • Depending on the Pastor Instead of Making Disciples.

About Karl Vaters
Karl Vaters has been a small church pastor for more than 30 years—the most recent 25+ years in his current church, Cornerstone Christian Fellowship in Fountain Valley, California. His popular blog, Pivot, is hosted at ChristianityToday.com/pivot and focuses specifically on issues related to leading in the small church.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. Their Fall Lead Pastor and Executive Pastor Coaching Networks are now open for registration, and our very own Dr. Rainer will be speaking at the Fall Lead Pastor Coaching Network.
So if you're a Lead Pastor or an Executive Pastor looking for peer roundtable coaching, check it out at vanderbloemen.com/coaching. It's limited to 16 folks, so apply today before it fills up.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Grasshopper Myth

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Podcast Episode #337

These eight signs are almost always evident in churches that are on their way to death. Does your church exhibit any of these?

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Blogs create fans, podcasts create family.
  • Four consecutive years of decline indicate a problem that must be addressed.
  • If your congregation is mostly senior adults, you're only a few funerals away from closing the church doors.
  • Don't sit and expect younger people to come to your church. You have to work to connect with them.
  • In churches that are on their way to death, members often fight fiercely for their preferences.
  • One of the most sacred cows in dying churches is the parlor.

The eight issues we cover are:

  • There has been a numerical decline for four or more years.
  • The church does not look like the community in which it is located.
  • The congregation is mostly comprised of senior adults.
  • The focus is on the past, not the future.
  • The members are intensely preference-driven.
  • The budget is severely inwardly focused.
  • There are sacred cow facilities.
  • Any type of change is met with fierce resistance.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Eight Signs Your Church May Be Closing Soon
  • The Need for Church Replanting featuring Mark Clifton – Rainer on Leadership #320
  • Reclaiming Glory

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Podcast Episode #336

Mike Harland is back to talk about those things which can become private distractions to our worship.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church leaders would rather not talk about "dress code" for those leading worship, but it can be problematic.
  • As a leader, you have to be responsible for people in your ministry.
  • In the social media age, ministry leaders need to be aware of how those in their ministry present themselves online.
  • "Online fighting will damage your ministry and is a negative testimony."
  • If you're a ministry leader, you're accountable for your actions—so should the people be who are in your ministry.
  • If you're not willing to hold accountable those in your ministry, you're not leading well.
  • When you display spiritual leadership, you have spiritual credibility to address problems spiritually.
  • "Walk close and clean before the Lord."

The four items we discuss are:

  • The longest Monday of my ministry
  • Spiritual integrity of the platform in a social media age
  • Accountability of leadership
  • Spiritual leadership of the Worship Leader

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Dealing with Public Distractions to Worship, featuring Mike Harland

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Podcast Episode #335

Art Rainer joins us to talk about generosity and money matters related to his new book The Money Challenge.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • God has designed us not as hoarders but as conduits through which His generosity flows.
  • Debt cripples your ability to live generously.
  • Pastors are often hesitant to preach on finances as a way to avoid conflict that may result.
  • When we give, we should have an eternal perspective for our sacrifice.
  • When we are financially healthy, we have a greater ability to be generous for the Kingdom.
  • Social media has made "keeping up with the Joneses" exponentially worse.
  • Give generously. Save Wisely. Live Appropriately.

About Art Rainer:
Art Rainer is the Vice President for Institutional Advancement at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He holds a Doctor of Business Administration from Nova Southeastern University and an MBA from the University of Kentucky. Art lives in Wake Forest, North Carolina with his wife, Sarah, and their three children.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Money Challenge

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Podcast Episode #334

Nearly every pastor I talk with says their church is just too busy. So why does this happen? Why do we let it become like this? Today, we tackle eight reasons.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In the past, churches looked to programs to grow the church. That's not the case today.
  • There's nothing wrong with programs as long as they are the means, not the end.
  • Program-driven churches give the appearance of growth, but programs aren't a good measure of church health.
  • More church activities do not necessarily mean more church ministry.
  • We shouldn't settle for mediocrity in the church.
  • Simple Church is not all about cutting programs. It's about having a process of discipleship.
  • Churches naturally gravitate toward silo behavior.
  • Silo behavior adds to the busyness in churches.
  • It's always easier to say "yes" and add programs than to say "no" and delete them.

The eight reasons we discuss are:

  • Activities became synonymous with ministry.
  • Programs and ministries are added regularly, but few or none are ever deleted.
  • Programs and ministries become sacred cows.
  • The alignment question is not asked on the front end.
  • Silo behavior among the different ministries of the church.
  • Lack of an evaluation process.
  • Ministry becomes facility-centered.
  • Lack of courageous leadership.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • PerceptGroup.com
  • Simple Church
  • Breakout Churches
  • How to Kill an Ineffective Program or Ministry – Rainer on Leadership...

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Podcast Episode #333

Churches often find themselves in a rut or a case of the doldrums. Today, we cover five ways your church can snap out of a negative spiral.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It's hard to stay mad at someone if you're praying for that person.
  • Ongoing ministry and missions should be taking place in the local community of a church.
  • Some leaders have too much pride to admit they've made a mistake.
  • People see straight through inauthentic apologies.
  • Outside eyes can help you see things you otherwise would not see.
  • The healthiest leaders are those who get ongoing training and coaching.
  • Church members and other staff can totally tell when a staff member or pastor has checked out.

The five ways to reverse negative sentiment that we discuss are:

  • Call for a time of prayer.

  • Lead a major ministry or service effort in the community.

  • Ask for forgiveness.

  • Get a fresh perspective.

  • Make a commitment to stay.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Pastoral Leadership, Prayer, and Church Health
  • Five Imminent Dangers in Churches
  • Facility Audit
  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • For the Church at the SBC Annual Meeting

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Podcast Episode #332

Revitalization continues to be a topic of interest in churches, and today Andrew Davis, pastor of FBC Durham, NC, joins us to talk about his journey of revitalization and his discipline of Scripture memorization.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "When a church needs revitalization, there are typically toxic forces at work in that church."
  • Pastors need allies, friends, and spiritually-minded people in the church who will pray for them.
  • "None of us has the level of commitment that Jesus has for the local church and universal church."
  • "The unleashing of the Word of God bring life and strength and health to a church."
  • It is very tempting to take inordinate credit for success in ministry.
  • In revitalization, there will be key moments when you have to step out in courage and lead.
  • "There's a difference between a healthy church and a perfect church. You'll never find a perfect church."

About Andrew Davis:
Andrew M. Davis is pastor of First Baptist Church of Durham, North Carolina, and a visiting professor of church history at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. Chairman of the governance committee of the Gospel Coalition, Davis has written articles for TGC's popular website and has spoken in plenary and breakout sessions at TGC's national conference.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Revitalize: Biblical Keys to Helping Your Church Come Alive Again
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • 9Marks
  • The Reform of First Baptist Church of Durham
  • He’s Memorized 42 Books of the Bible and You Can, Too

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Podcast Episode #331

We cover seven regrets many pastors and church staff have and how to overcome them. And we also talk about Chuck E. Cheese.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Seminaries are great, but no school can teach everyone everything needed for ministry.
  • Critics will always be present for leaders.
  • There can be healthy critics; it's just hard to see them that way.
  • When faced with a difficult situation, do you find the opportunity or the danger?
  • Pastors are prone to blame outside factors for church problems.
  • Church can be an evil mistress for a pastor.
  • Sharing ministry is a step of faith.
  • Don't be a ministry hoarder.

The seven regrets we discuss are:

  • Lack of practical training for local church ministry.
  • Overly concerned about critics.
  • Failure to exercise faith.
  • Not enough time with family.
  • Failure to understand basic business and finance issues.
  • Failure to share ministry.
  • Failure to make friends.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers

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Podcast Episode #330

Ever wondered what your church wants from its pastor? Today, we cover the top ten things church members desire in a pastor.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A church wants to know that their pastor loves them.
  • Effective preaching requires adequate time for preparation.
  • Much of a pastor's ministry is judged as effective or not based upon the preaching ministry.
  • Social media background checks are becoming standard when hiring a pastor.
  • We are leaving a blueprint of our lives when we interact on social media.
  • An organization without a path forward becomes an uneasy organization.
  • A lot of people can have great ideas. Not many people can execute them, too.
  • There is nothing wrong with having fun as a leader.
  • Most leaders are not transparent enough.

The ten items we discuss are:

  • Love of congregation.
  • Effective preaching.
  • Strong character.
  • Good work ethic.
  • Casts a vision.
  • Demonstrates healthy leadership.
  • Joyous.
  • Does not yield to critics.
  • Transparent.
  • Models evangelism.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • LifeWay named on the top employers in the nation by Forbes
  • There Is No Such Thing As Work-Life Balance

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Podcast Episode #329

Distractions are a real part of worship services. Mike Harland joins us today to talk about how to eliminate—or at least minimize—distractions in your worship service.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Music leaders should see themselves as the enemies of distraction in worship services.
  • Churches that aren't extremely careful with their slides can be disruptive to their worship service.
  • Presentation software can be a positive or a negative when you're using it in worship services.
  • Powerpoint typos are avoidable but churches still make those mistakes.
  • With the tools churches have access to, worship teams should never be unprepared.
  • "Sunday morning is not rehearsal time for the worship team. Sunday morning soundcheck time."
  • You'll never get complex right if you can't get simple right.

The five distractions in worship we cover are:

  • The curse of power point...
  • "We're singing that?"
  • Bubba's on the soundboard, Homer's on the lights...
  • Hi-tech or No-tech
  • Quality over aesthetics

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • LifeWay Worship
  • Worship Life Podcast
  • Worship Life Conference

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Podcast Episode #328

A post by Chuck Lawless serves as the basis for today's podcast. Dr. Lawless has been consulting with churches for nearly two decades and shared ten things he had learned from dozens of church consultations.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Most of the time, when a church consultant is called in, it is too late.
  • Every church should consider having a health check-up every three years.
  • The primary purpose of contracting a church consultant is to have outside eyes that will point out things the church is blind to.
  • Most pastors and lay leaders don't know the attendance trends in their own church.
  • Just because a church is growing numerically doesn't mean it's growing transformationally.
  • The pulpit has a primary purpose: the proclamation of the Word of God.

The ten items we discuss are:

  • Churches often wait too long to address decline.
  • Statistics really are helpful.
  • Prayer in unhealthy churches is reactive rather than proactive.
  • Churches often settle for numerical growth rather than life transformation.
  • Churches do not know their community.
  • Most churches aren’t ready for conversion growth if God were to send it.
  • Sometimes the most obvious suggestions seem the most revolutionary.
  • The leader in the pulpit matters.
  • In most churches, somebody wants the congregation to make an eternal difference.
  • God is still growing His church.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • ChuckLawless.com
  • The Lawless Group
  • Pastoral Leadership, Prayer, and Church Health – Rainer on Leadership #316
  • Transformational Church Survey
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Podcast Episode #327

Warren Bird joins us today to talk about how your church can break growth barriers at any level.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • People are in your community. Are you ready to reach them?
  • "Pastors shouldn't be the only minister in a church. They should be the minister maker."
  • "Hire developers before you hire doers."
  • "It's not how many seeds are in an apple, but how many apples are in a seed."
  • We will lead change, or it will lead us.
  • "In anything you do in ministry, are you taking someone with you and teaching them?"
  • The Great Commission cannot be dichotomized into evangelism or discipleship. It's both.

The seven myths about breaking growth barriers we discuss are:

  • It can't be done here
  • I could do it if I could work longer hours
  • We could break the 200 barrier if we could hire a _______.
  • The people God has given us are afraid to grow.
  • I'm not wired to develop and coach the leaders we need,
  • God's got us in a different season right now. I don't think he wants us to grow.
  • We could do it if we were in different facilities.

About Warren Bird
Warren Bird is research director for Leadership Network, the nation's leading catalyst for helping innovative church leaders move from ideas to impact. An ordained minister, he teaches at Alliance Theological Seminary. He is also author or coauthor of twenty-eight books, including Next: Pastoral Succession That Works. He and his wife, Michelle, live in a suburb of New York City.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • How to Break Growth Barriers: Revise Your Role, Release Your People, and Capture Overlooked Opportunities for Your Church
  • The Everychurch Guide to Growth: How Any Plateaued Church Can Grow

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Podcast Episode #326

Millennials are being called to established churches, so today we cover six reasons they should answer those calls. Thanks to Sam Rainer for the outline for today's podcast.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Established churches are more likely to be more generationally diverse than church plants.
  • A sense of history of the church is invaluable to a new pastor.
  • Sometimes an established church's history can be damaging to its reputation.
  • If you're being considered to pastor a church, ask other pastors in the area about the church before you make your decision.
  • There are a lot more opportunities to serve in an established church than in new churches.
  • Established churches need good pastors too.
  • I wish Millennials were more enthusiastic about leading in established churches.

The six reasons we discuss are:

  • Diversity includes multiple generations.
  • The older generations will teach you things your own generation may not.
  • Established churches tend to be more stable.
  • Younger people need a sense of history.
  • Established churches are more rooted in the community.
  • There are a lot more of them.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • SamRainer.com
  • Est. Podcast
  • Volunteer Apocalypse

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Podcast Episode #325

Listener feedback has been great recently, so we take some time to answer your questions on this week's episode. We cover everything from hiring to boring churches to problems with former staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If a ministry event is high on resources and involvement but low on results, it may be time to pull the plug on it.
  • You hire in the church based on Christian commitment and a sense of call.
  • Pastors should be careful when taking on the title of pastor emeritus.
  • The title "pastor emeritus" can be very confusing for church members and those in the community.
  • Pastors who follow those who left due to moral failure have to build more trust with the congregation.
  • Sometimes enthusiasm in one area of ministry will spill over into other areas that are completely unrelated.

The listener questions we ask are:

Les asks:
How do you determine when an event/outreach just isn't going to develop as you had hoped vs. giving it one more year or one more try?
Cameron asks:
How is hiring in the church changing? How is it, or how should it be different from the secular world?
Jim asks:
How do I deal with a pastor emeritus who thinks the church should be more like it was when he was pastor? He still refers to himself in the community as pastor emeritus even though he hasn’t been on staff for more than a decade.
James asks:
9 months ago the founding and senior pastor of 27 years stepped down after admitting a 4 year affair with a woman in the church. Half of the church left. Everyone is wounded. But thankfully we have very strong and committed leaders. What 3 or 4 things / actions / behaviors would you recommend to a new pastor walking into that situation? Within the first few months? Year? 2-3 years?
Matt asks:
What do I do if our church is boring? We've been attending for about a year now and nothing has changed a lot not much growth maybe a couple families. The preaching is expository style but it's more of a verbal commentary with not much application. Not many kids, not enough to have bible studies because the ages are so wide, no greeters you will walk into an empty sanctuary. they have a high view of Gods word and that's what keeps us continuing. It's causing some division in the household because one wants to go and the rest of the family wants to visit other churches.
Quentin asks:
Hello, I'm a pastor and this is my fourth year there. The ministries where on fire my first 2 years. Now there is a dramatically drop in our choir and youth ministry. It's like the leaders settle for the bare minimum, and that trickles down to the rest of the members. I've tried to encourage them, offered corrective measures, and attempted to help them. However, no avail. Service on Sundays are starting to really reflect this issue. Can you help?

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.

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Podcast Episode #324

Construction debt can be debilitating for churches, but there can be a way out. Today we discuss the unintended consequences of building too big and how to overcome them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you build too big of a church facility, these things may happen.
  • Don’t let unneeded building debt replace needed ministry funding.
  • Unwieldy debt can get a church off message. They start thinking about surviving instead of thriving.
  • It’s likely that less than 1% of churches have done a facility usage study in the past five years.
  • There’s a perception that if you build a new church facility, people will come. That is simply not the case.
  • People are more attracted to a church because of relationships and ministry, not facilities.
  • Dealing with “the good ole days” is one of the most challenging thing any leader will face.

The eight consequences of building too big are:

  • Debt becomes shackles.
  • Morale is hit hard.
  • Leaders spend too much time with a new narrative.
  • Utility costs are too high and burdensome.
  • They built it, but they didn’t come.
  • The church becomes dangerously nostalgic.
  • There are fewer financial resources for ministry.
  • The church has difficulty finding good successor pastors.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Importance of Church Facility Stewardship featuring Tim Cool – Rainer on Leadership #317
  • CoolSolutionsGroup.com
  • Envelope3.com
  • The Money Challenge
  • When Not to Build
  • Church Answers

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Podcast Episode #323

Ministry résumés are a frequent topic for questions. So on today's episode we discuss all the details that go into a good résumé.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Want to make your ministry résumé stand out? Do it well.
  • The most common grammatical mistake on résumés is the use of random capitalization.
  • Use appropriate fonts on résumés.
  • If you’re going to put a photo on your résumé, make it a good one.
  • Do not inflate attendance numbers on your ministry résumé. You will be found out.
  • When applying for a job, follow the instructions for applying.
  • Résumé hyperbole will lead potential employers to question your character.

The nine résumé qualities we discuss on the episode are:

  • A highly qualified person proofread the resume for grammar, style, and appearance.
  • There are no gaps in dates of employment.
  • The resume had a great photo.
  • The resume presented statistics clearly and truthfully.
  • The applicant only sent what was requested.
  • The resume included a narrative of accomplishments, rather than just positions with dates of employment.
  • The order of the details on the resume reflects the priorities of the organization more than the applicant.
  • Most of the resume uses the active tense.
  • Good resumes avoid “cutesy” attempts to stand out.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Nine Ways to Make Your Ministry Résumé Stand Out

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Podcast Episode #322

Mike Harland is back to talk worship and this time we discuss labels of music styles and if it's possible to have a congregation unified about worship styles.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "The lack of unity in worship is an indictment on the worship that's happening in our churches."
  • "You cannot build unity in a church around a music style."
  • "Because of music style trends, we've seen a generational segregation in the church."
  • "By naming a service after a style of music, you're setting it up to disappoint the attendees."
  • "When you name a service based on stylistic worship, you're painting yourself into a corner."
  • "When planning musical worship, instead of thinking music genres, think worship moments."
  • Worship planning is spiritual preparation, not just musical preparation.
  • Worship is our response to God's revelation.

The five points we discuss about unity in worship are:

  • Carefully select your language
  • Aim for atmosphere & moments, not music style
  • vary accompaniments/voicing
  • avoid template worship planning
  • Focus on what doesn't change

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Worship Life Conference

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Podcast Episode #321

Staff culture is important for healthy churches. Today, we talk with Bryan and Shannon Miles who lead the #1 staff culture in the U.S. according to Entrepreneur magazine.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "You can't ask others to do things you're not willing to do as the leader."
  • "As a leader, you can't force or create a policy that you're not willing to live and die by as well."
  • "Not everyone carries the same vision for the church that you do."
  • Sometimes we take leadership so seriously that we don't have any fun.

The four keys for healthy staff culture we discuss on the episode are:

  • Lead by example
  • Invest in your culture
  • Share common values
  • Focus on the people

About Bryan & Shannon Miles and BELAY
Bryan Miles is CEO & Co-founder of BELAY. Bryan (alongside his wife, Shannon) lead a US-based virtual solutions company that has over 550 people on payroll ... all working from home, virtually. Additionally, his company has been named to the Inc 500 list in both 2015 and 2016.

BELAY provides business-grade virtual services such as assistants, bookkeepers, copywriters, and webmasters - to leaders and fast-paced organizations and churches across the country. Their robust selection of services allows your organization to scale when and where you need it most.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • BELAY

  • Team members acknowledge their weaknesses to one another

  • Team members voice their opinion even at the risk of causing disagreement
  • Team members offer unprovoked constructive feedback to one another

  • The Ideal Team Player by Patrick Lencioni
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Podcast Episode #320

Church replanting is becoming more and more of a need as more and more churches face death. More than 4,000 churches a year die every year, but through replanting, they can live again. Today, Mark Clifton joins us to explain how.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church replanting is working with churches so that they don't die or rescuing their resources if they do.
  • 90% of SBC churches that close are in areas where the population is growing.
  • "An empty church is like an abandoned castle of a long forgotten king."
  • "Empty, dead churches rob God of His glory."
  • "We've got more church plants that need space than we can imagine, and we have churches closing every week. We need to get them together."
  • "Church replants generally value the process of decision over the outcome of decision."
  • Churches don't have to die. They are not without hope. They can live again through replanting.
  • "The remaining members in a dying church are not in the way of your ministry, they are your first step in your ministry."
  • "You know an idol is false when you're afraid of losing it."
  • "One characteristic of a dying church is an over-reliance on programs."

About Mark Clifton
Mark Clifton is a pastor, church planter, church revitalizer, mission strategist, coach, and mentor to young leaders. He has planted numerous churches and most recently replanted a dying urban core church in Kansas City, MO. He has led numerous national conferences on church planting and revitalization, consulted and coached leaders, churches and denominational entities throughout North America, and has taught in a variety of settings including colleges and seminaries. Mark has been planting, replanting and providing strategic mission leadership since 1978.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Reclaiming Glory by Mark Clifton
  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • ChurchReplanters.com

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Podcast Episode #319

A recent post on the urgency needed in many churches struck a nerve with many readers. Today, we unpack that post and talk about nine much needed changes for many churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We must be intentional about reaching people instead of depending on easy growth in the church.
  • We cannot go into our holy huddles wanting church to be about ourselves.
  • Comfort and stability when unchecked can often lead to entitlement in the church.
  • Churches that have an entitlement mentality are churches who are already on the path to death.
  • The intentionality about sharing the gospel has faded away in many churches.
  • There are so many good things churches do to the neglect of the best things they could be doing.
  • A church's inward focus ultimately leads to inward fighting in the church.

The nine changes we discuss on the episode are:

  • Churches must stop bemoaning the death of cultural Christianity.
  • Churches must cease to see the church as a place of comfort and stability in the midst of rapid change.
  • Churches must abandon the entitlement mentality.
  • Churches must start doing evangelism.
  • Churches must stop using biblical words in unbiblical ways.
  • Churches must stop focusing on minors.
  • Churches must stop shooting our own.
  • Churches must stop wasting time in unproductive meetings, committees, and business sessions.
  • Churches must become houses of prayer.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Urgent Church
  • Six Warning Signs That a Church Has a Problem with Entitlement Mentality – Rainer on Leadership #315
  • Pastoral Leadership, Prayer, and Church Health – Rainer on Leadership #316
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Podcast Episode #318

Based on several research projects over the past two decades, it's safe to say pastoral tenure is increasing. Today we look at six reasons behind this increase.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastoral tenure has almost doubled over the past 20 years.
  • Baby boomer pastors know that if they leave a church, it will be tougher to find another one because of their age.
  • We are not seeing the "ladder climbing" when pastors would move from church to church like we used to.
  • Bigger churches don't always equate to better ministry positions.
  • We need both catalytic church planters and community church planters.
  • Long pastoral tenure connects you with a community.
  • Only 10% of senior pastors live in a church parsonage.

The six reasons for increased pastoral tenure we discuss are:

  • Baby boomer pastors are delaying retirement.
  • Moving to larger churches is no longer considered a career path by many pastors.
  • More pastors feel called to a community as well as a church.
  • Financial insecurities impact the mobility of some pastors.
  • Many pastors are less likely to move for family reasons.
  • More pastors understand the benefit of staying at one place longer.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Six Reasons Pastoral Tenure May Be Increasing
  • The Lifecycle of Pastors

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Podcast Episode #317

Nearly every church has a facility. But not every church stewards their facility well. Tim Cool joins us to discuss facility stewardship and how churches can save money on their facilities in the long run.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Everything on earth has been entrusted by God to us to care for.
  • Stewardship in the church isn’t just about money.
  • The expenses needed to take care of a facility are not an optional thing, they are an inevitable thing.
  • We know facility issues will come up in the church, it’s prudent for us to plan for them.
  • Facilities won’t save souls. They are tools for us to use to see people saved and to disciple the saints.
  • Churches need four master plans—ones for ministry, finance, facility, and sustainability.
  • Church utility costs should average between $1 and $1.50 per square foot.
  • Effective facility usage can lead to more effective ministry because you’re able to put more resources into ministry.

About Tim Cool:
Tim Cool is founder of Cool Solutions Group, and has assisted nearly 400 churches, (equating to over 4 Million Sq Ft) throughout the United States with their facility needs. He has collaborated with churches in the areas of facility needs analysis, design coordination, pre-construction and construction management as well as life cycle planning/facility management. Cool Solutions Group is also the developer of eSPACE Facility Management software products including Event Scheduler, Event Registration, Work Order Management, Life Cycle Calculator and HVAC integration. Tim is also the author of three books, Why Church Buildings Matter: The Story of Your Space, Church Locality (co-authored with Jim Tomberlin) and Plan 4 It: The 4 Essential Master Plans For Every Church as well as a church Facility Management manual entitled Intentional Church Series: Facility Stewardship. Tim lives in Charlotte, North Carolina with his wife of 32 years, Lisa, and supports his triplet college students at Appalachian State University.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • CoolSolutionsGroup.com
  • Plan 4 It
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Podcast Episode #316

I recently spoke at a church in central Arkansas. What I discovered was a prayer ministry entering its 15th year. Here are my takeaways from the experience.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Prayer should fuel every ministry in a church.
  • There tends to be less conflict when a church's ministries are rooted in prayer.
  • Praying churches are typically unified churches.
  • Churches high on prayer and low on conflict often have long-term pastors.
  • Is an intentional prayer ministry the missing ingredient in many of our churches?
  • An intentional prayer ministry broadens what prayer is all about.

The eight points we discuss in this episode related to pastors and prayer are:

  • A unique story of one church
  • A missions minded congregation
  • Conversions resulted
  • Less conflict in the church
  • Requires tenacious leadership
  • Requires accountability
  • Results in long-term tenure
  • Is it what is missing in most of our churches?

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Valley Baptist Church - Searcy, AR

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Podcast Episode #315

Entitlement is a real problem in many churches. So today, we discuss warning signs you might see in a church that has a problem with entitlement mentality.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The pervasive force affecting the Millennial generation is entitlements.
  • We are living in an entitled atmosphere, and it’s affecting our churches.
  • One of the ways the church can be counter cultural is by having a non-entitled mentality.
  • Don’t assume that everyone in your new member class is already a Christian.
  • Every church membership class should be a gospel conversation.
  • Service in the church is one antidote to entitlement in the church.
  • Many times, entitled leaders seek out places of influence in the church.
  • Leaders who put off difficult decisions become leaders with even more difficult decisions.
  • You will feel a lot more pain down the road if you avoid making difficult decisions when needed.

The six warning signs we discuss are:

  • Failure to state clearly the expectations of church membership on the front end.
  • Failure to make certain as possible that members are Christians.
  • Seeking numerical growth at all costs.
  • Failure to remind the congregation regularly what it means to be a part of the body of Christ.
  • Allowing the most entitled members into positions of key leadership in the church.
  • Failure to deal with difficult issues.

Episode Sponsors
The Timothy Track, from Midwestern Seminary, offers select residential M.Div. students placement in internship positions in a local church in the area. Now you can complement your studies with in-the-field ministry experience. In addition, all Timothy Track students will receive up to 12 credit hours for the internship and a 50% tuition scholarship for the first year.
Find out more at mbts.edu/TimothyTrack.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • How the Entitlement Mentality Crept into Our Churches

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Podcast Episode #314

Released just this month, the Christian Standard Bible is optimal point for accuracy and readability. Trevin Wax joins us to shed light on this new translation and highlights some of its unique characteristics.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When selecting a Bible, you shouldn't have to choose between accuracy and readability.
  • The CSB Translation team went through every verse and asked if it's as accurate and as readable as possible.
  • Capitalization of divine pronouns can often force a translator into making theological decisions.
  • "We should be grateful for the wealth of biblical resources we have."
  • The CSB is a translation that is solid enough for scholars and easy enough to read for new Christians.
  • "The response to the CSB has been overwhelmingly positive."
  • Not all Bible translations are stewarded by Christian organizations—the CSB is.

The points we discuss with Trevin are:

  • The philosophy of optimal equivalence
  • Changes from HCSB to CSB
  • Putting CSB on the map in relation to other translations
  • We shouldn’t have to choose between word-for-word and dynamic
  • CSB is a great primary translation because it's an optimal blend of accuracy and readability
  • Ultimately, we want more people reading the Bible

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Christian Standard Bible - This link contains all the information for all the Bibles mentioned in today's episode.

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Podcast Episode #313

Easter is only three weeks away, so today we cover a few trends we are seeing in churches as we lead up to Resurrection Sunday. Also, we talk pants splitting, camels falling, and sets burning.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If your worship center is already at +70% capacity on Sundays, you might consider adding a service on Easter.
  • Churches should be taking advantage of Facebook advertising for Easter.
  • Facebook advertising is the most effective and cost efficient advertising churches have available to them.
  • The purpose behind high attendance invite days is to show members that people will come when invited.
  • Should you have an Easter sunrise service? It depends.
  • Do what is effective for your church; don't just do what other people do.
  • Try something special and unique with your Easter guest follow-up.

The eight Easter trends we discuss are:

  • Adding services
  • Adding venues
  • Facebook advertising
  • Special emphasis for inviting
  • Tradition is contextual - Sunrise services, egg hunts, etc.
  • Involvement in community Easter activities
  • Cantatas are still popular for churches with choirs
  • Special follow up emphases.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Invite Your One
  • Church Answers

Easter Set Catches on Fire
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Podcast Episode #312

Churches can measure so many things—giving, attendance, involvement and much more. But what should they measure? Today, we talk assessments, lead metrics, lag metrics, and how churches can more effectively assess what's going on in their church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Try to do a secret guest survey at your church at least once a year.
  • General attendance trends are a critical lag metric for churches to use.
  • Worship attendance is a lead metric for financial giving in the church.
  • The reason many downtown churches decline is because demographics change and the churches don't adjust.
  • When you begin to reach a different demographic community, a church has to change what it does and how it does things.
  • One of the least measured metrics in churches is conversion growth.
  • What gets measured gets rewarded.
  • Small group attendance is the bridge between worship attendance and ministry involvement.

The 12 metrics for church assessment which we discuss are:

  • Secret guest survey
  • General attendance trends
  • Demographic trends for same period
  • Racial/ethnic composition of the church vs. the community
  • Conversion trends
  • Ministry involvement trends
  • Small group attendance trends
  • Total giving trends
  • Budget giving trends
  • Weekly per capita giving
  • Facility audit

  • Children

  • Preschool
  • Restrooms
  • Signage
  • Exterior appearance
  • Parking

  • Incredible value of member interviews

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Secret Guest Survey
  • Percept Group
  • Facility Audit

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Podcast Episode #311

I hear far too often about the very real problem of preacher eating churches. We cover six traits that are found in these churches and how to remedy them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Many times, church members are unaware that pastoral tenure is an issue in their church.
  • There are bullies and power groups in nearly every church.
  • Perpetual church conflict works against the Great Commission.
  • If you are catering to a handful of families,whoever comes after you could be less successful because of it.
  • Too many pastors are expected to know needs about which they haven't been told.
  • Many pastors and staff are woefully under-compensated.
  • Before taking a new pastorate, talk to pastors in the area about the church.

The six traits of preacher eater churches we discuss are:

  • Their pastors don’t stick around long.
  • The church has bullies and power groups.
  • The church is in perpetual conflict.
  • The church has non-biblical expectations of the pastor.
  • The church does not believe pastors should be compensated adequately.
  • The pastor’s family is not supported.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Six Main Traits of Preacher Eater Churches
  • CareyNieuwhof.com
  • VSG Blog

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Podcast Episode #310

Kevin Ezell joins us to discuss trends in church planting, relief ministry, and missions in North America, as well as the Send North America Conference.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church planting takes more than a planter. It takes a team.
  • "Every believer is called to be on mission."
  • "There are needs to be met right in the shadow of our own steeple. But we don't see them."
  • "Find a need. Meet the need."
  • "Some churches are dying and either don't know it or won't admit it."
  • "Just because you're a church plant doesn't mean you can replant. Replanting is a specialty."
  • "I never saw a problem in the local church that an hour at Cracker Barrel couldn't solve."
  • "When people know you love them and that you work hard, they'll forgive a lot of things."
  • "If you really love someone, you're going to pray for them."

About Kevin Ezell & NAMB:
Dr. Kevin Ezell serves as the President of the North American Mission Board, providing strategic vision, direction, and leadership as NAMB works to reach North America through evangelism and church planting.
The North American Mission Board exists to work with churches, associations and state conventions in mobilizing Southern Baptists as a missional force to impact North America with the gospel of Jesus Christ through evangelism and church planting. They accomplish this goal through Send North America, their national strategy for mobilizing churches to plant churches and mobilizing church planters and other missionaries to assist with those efforts.

About the Send North America Conference:
The Send North America Conference is a two-day gathering of the church in North America. The heart of this gathering is to see a movement of people from within the church living out the mission of God in their everyday lives.

  • SendConference.com
  • Dallas - May 19-20, 2017
  • Orlando - July 25-26, 2017

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Podcast Episode #309

Regardless of the size of the church, the pastor typically has to manage a staff. They may be volunteers; they may be paid. So today, we cover ten traits pastors should develop as they manage their staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors need to have a compelling vision for their church.
  • Good bosses will always be looking to build up those who work under them.
  • If you want a certain behavior to be evident in your staff, you should be the one modeling it as the boss.
  • More leaders than not have trouble making difficult decisions.
  • Be confident in your decisions.
  • Everyone who works for you should feel like they are part of the team.
  • Church staffs should be seen as a team both internally and externally.
  • Pastors should communicate frequently and clearly to the staff.

The ten traits of great pastor bosses we discuss are:

  • Cast a clear vision and path.
  • Support other ministries.
  • Create a fun atmosphere.
  • Provide a good role model and example.
  • Be decisive.
  • Include other staff as part of the team.
  • Have the back of your staff.
  • Listen well.
  • Support the staff member’s family.
  • Communicate frequently and clearly.

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Podcast Episode #308

Regardless of the size of the church, the pastor typically has to manage a staff. They may be volunteers; they may be paid. So today, we cover ten traits pastors should avoid as they manage their staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • These principles can apply to any leader— not just pastors.
  • Usually a pastor does not have time to micromanage staff constantly—it typically happens in bursts.
  • When you avoid conflict, you're just creating another conflict later on.
  • When you take someone else's idea, it typically will not be executed well.
  • One of the best things a leader can do is to fall on his/her sword when it's needed.
  • Leaders are going to make mistakes. They need to own it.
  • Many leaders are so eager to lead that they fail to listen.
  • Different perspectives often make for a healthier and more robust decision.

The ten traits of bad pastor bosses we discuss are:

  • Micromanagement.
  • Avoiding conflict.
  • Avoiding making decisions.
  • Stealing credit.
  • Shifting blame.
  • Hoarding information.
  • Failing to listen.
  • Setting a poor example.
  • Having a poor work ethic.
  • Not developing staff.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
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  • Ten Ways Pastors Can Be Bad Bosses
  • @ThomRainer on Instagram
  • American Icon
  • Leadership Pipeline Conference

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Podcast Episode #307

Mark Dever joins us on the podcast to talk congregational singing, politics, DC life, and ecclesiology.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "In the 1960's church services started changing into rock concerts."
  • "I see too many churches get tied up in battles over music, which is a shame."
  • "Most pastors like good congregation singing when they hear it, but haven't thought a lot about how to get it."
  • "You want accompaniment and songs that will encourage the congregation to sing instead of plastering over them."
  • "If we don't have a solid definition of what a church is, all kinds of things begin to run out."
  • "A church is a regular assembly in which the Word of God is rightly preached and in which the ordinances are rightly administered."
  • We won't all make it into the future. We have to get others to carry the gospel into the future for us.

About Mark Dever:
Mark serves as the senior pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington, DC. A Duke graduate, Dr. Dever holds a M.Div. from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a Th.M. from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. in Ecclesiastical History from Cambridge University. He is the president of 9Marks Ministries and has taught at a number of seminaries. Dr. Dever has authored several books and articles, most recently, The Compelling Community and The Church: The Gospel Made Visible. Earlier books include What is a Healthy Church?, The Gospel and Personal Evangelism, Nine Marks of a Healthy Church, The Deliberate Church, Promises Kept: The Message of the New Testament, and Promises Made: The Message of the Old Testament. He and his wife Connie live and minister on Capitol Hill, with Connie giving much of her time to creating a children’s curriculum (PraiseFactory). They have two adult children.

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Podcast Episode #306

Keith and Kristyn Getty stop by for a discussion on congregational singing and practical steps you can take in your church to help the congregation sing more.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors who take congregational singing seriously will lead churches who take congregational singing seriously.
  • "We are all called to sing and sing praises to God." Kristyn Getty
  • "So many people are spectating in church and not singing." Keith Getty
  • "Part of how every great movement has built deep believers is with the songs they sing." Keith Getty
  • "I want to be at a church where people sing together and encourage each other in song." Keith Getty
  • "We want congregations to be known by their singing, not by their music." Keith Getty
  • "We are created, compelled, and commanded to sing." Kristyn Getty

About Keith & Kristyn Getty
Keith and Kristyn Getty occupy a unique space in the world of music today as preeminent modern hymn writers. In re-inventing the traditional hymn form, they have created a catalogue of songs teaching Christian doctrine and crossing the genres of traditional, classical, folk and contemporary composition which are sung the world over.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Sing by Keith and Kristyn Getty
  • Getty Music
  • Getty Music Conference
  • Don’t Waste Your Christmas – Rainer on Leadership #082
  • Easter and Hymns with Keith Getty – Rainer on Leadership #111
  • Pastoral Tenure & Expository Preaching with Alistair Begg – Rainer on Leadership #070

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Podcast Episode #305

Evangelism in the church is waning, so today we cover 10 questions you can use to determine the evangelistic health of your church. Also, the "bee-line to the cross" quote is Spurgeon after all.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Relational evangelism without a gospel presentation is not really evangelism.
  • Once you move people to an outward focus, they stop thinking about themselves as much.
  • Many people don't pray for lost people by name because they don't know anyone outside their holy huddle.
  • We should be praying for eternal issues as much as (if not more than) temporal issues.
  • Becoming evangelistic requires getting outside of your comfort zone.
  • When you're a good evangelistic leader in a church, you're probably leading outwardly.
  • Small groups should be one of the most evangelistic tools a church has.
  • The priority of the leaders will become the priority of the church.

The 10 questions we cover are:

  • Are members more concerned about the lost than their own preferences and comfort?
  • Is the church led to pray for lost persons?
  • Are the members of the church open to reaching people who don’t look or act like them?
  • Do conflicts and critics zap the evangelistic energy of the church?
  • Do small groups and Sunday school classes seek to reach lost persons within their groups?
  • Is the leadership of the church evangelistic?
  • Do the sermons regularly communicate the gospel?
  • Are there ministries in the church that encourage members to be involved in evangelistic outreach and lifestyle?
  • Have programs become ends in themselves rather than means to reach people?
  • Is there any process of accountability for members to be more evangelistic?

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Podcast Episode #304

The post this podcast is based on really caused a stir. Today, we give a little more explanation as to the reasons the 11:00 AM worship service is disappearing and offer tips on changing your service time if needed.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When deciding what time to have a worship service, survey the church and the community.
  • 11:00 AM is rarely, if ever, the preferred time for a church's single Sunday morning worship service.
  • Too many church leaders want to reach Millennials without changing what they do or how they do it.
  • Most members would choose a mid-morning worship service instead of 11:00 AM service if given the option.
  • For many Millennials, a single 11:00 AM Sunday worship service doesn't fit their normal, everyday routine.
  • It's ok to have a single 11:00 AM Sunday worship service if your church has a good reason for it.
  • When changing things in a church, begin with the "why."

The five trends related to the 11:00 AM worship service which we discuss are:

  • When a church moved from one service to two, the 11:00 AM slot no longer made sense.
  • Churches with one service began to realize the disadvantages of the 11:00 AM service.
  • More people choose a mid-morning time if they have a choice.
  • Millennials are particularly averse to 11:00 AM services.
  • Some people perceive a church with a lone 11:00 AM service to be too traditional and out-of-touch.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
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  • Five Reasons the 11:00 AM Worship Service Is Disappearing
  • Who Moved My Pulpit?

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Podcast Episode #303

Men's ministry is lacking in many churches, so today we cover the four essentials churches should consider when launching or sustaining a men's ministry. This episode is based on a blog post by Eric Geiger and walks you through these four essentials with practical application focused on ministering to men.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Every man needs godly men connecting him to the church.
  • I cannot imagine going through life without having a purpose or mission.
  • Every man wants to be a part of something that is bigger than himself.
  • With new ministries, find a champion and resource them toward a specific mission.
  • One of the greatest needs in the church is to understand the big picture of Scripture.
  • Churches truly can have dynamic ministries to men by men. Many don't.

The four essentials we cover for ministering to men are:

  • Connected: Every man needs other godly men (Hebrews 10:24-25).
  • Discipled: Every man needs to grow (Colossians 1:28-29).
  • Challenged: Every man needs a holy mission (2 Corinthians 5:18).
  • Transformed: Every man has a master (2 Corinthians 3:17-18).

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  • What the Bible Is All About
  • Unfolded by Eric Geiger
  • Simple Church
  • LifeWay Men

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Podcast Episode #302

Unfortunately, pastors and staff members are forced out of churches every week. It's a pain that many in the ministry have felt at least once and maybe more. Today, we discuss how to respond when it happens to you.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • For the sake of your family, you can't have a victim mentality when you're forced out of a church.
  • If you're forced out of a church, take care of your family. Don't take it out on your family.
  • There's no perfect church because they're full of imperfect people.
  • You can't give up on churches just because one had toxic leadership.
  • When you're hurt deeply, one way to help the recovery is to remember how God has blessed you.
  • Self pity can be toxic—just like bitterness.
  • Silence from your friends when you're being forced out of a church is often what hurts most.
  • Don't ever stay on the sidelines when someone is going through the same pain that you've been through.

The seven responses we discuss are:

  • Take care of your family.
  • Pray with specificity.
  • Find a healthy church.
  • Move carefully before taking another ministry position.
  • Count your blessings.
  • Become an advocate for other victims.
  • Don’t give up.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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  • Who Moved My Pulpit?

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Podcast Episode #301

This is an episode we hope churches won't need to consult, but unfortunately many of them will. Extramarital affairs by pastors and staff are a reality and when it happens, churches need to be prepared.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches don't prepare for this because churches don't think they will need to be prepared for this.
  • There's this misunderstanding of grace sometimes where people think it means that anything goes.
  • After a staff member affair, one of the most important parts of a severance package is often counseling.
  • Churches should consider having outside help to guide them through the aftermath of a staff member affair.
  • The goal after any affair should be reconciliation of the marriages.
  • After a staff member affair, the congregation often goes through the five stages of grief.
  • It's nearly impossible to pray sincerely for someone and at the same time remain bitter toward them.

The six responses we cover are:

  • Terminate with compassion.
  • Don’t forget the staff member’s family.
  • Be forthright with the congregation.
  • Provide resources for reconciliation.
  • Don’t forget the pain of the congregation.
  • Begin a ministry of prayer for this situation.

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  • When the Pastor Has an Affair

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Podcast Episode #300

We celebrate episode 300 with cupcakes and listener questions. We cover everything from welcome packets to marketplace pastors to Bible Belt churches and refusing members or money.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It's good to include member stories in your guest welcome packet to tell how God is moving in your church.
  • You can have church bullies at any level—they can be lay leaders, staff members, or even pastors.
  • What someone may claim as a pastor being a bully could actually be a member just not getting his/her way.
  • Don't cater to every whim of church members to please people. It will burn you out.
  • I have turned down money from church members for one main reason—it had strings attached.
  • Churches should be selective in membership; churches need to know someone beforehe/she joins the church.
  • In the Bible Belt, there are people in the church who will not face the reality that they are not saved.

The questions we answer are:
From Wayne
What training do you believe is necessary for serving as a marketplace pastor? Since marketplace pastors are are limited in the amount of time they can realistically serve (I'm thinking primarily ministerial and administrative tasks), would it be best for them to serve on a team of "pastors/elders" or perhaps in a larger setting?
From Julie
What should my church include in our visitor welcome gift/packet?
From Lisa
I understand that some churches do have bully cartels. But some also have leaders who do not allow to be questioned by the church. What advice would you have for members in those churches?
From Joe
In the 2 years I have been ministering with my church, we have seen a shift in the average age of our congregation to a younger one. Along with this can come a shift in how we do ministry. We give more attention to families and our Sunday worship times have a more modern feel than before. None of this is exactly intentional, it's just kind of developing on its own like that. Unfortunately, we have some within our older crowd who are feeling neglected and left out. How can we effectively minister to them and with them without just creating a social group?
From Bill
Under what circumstances, if any, is it appropriate for a church to turn down someone asking to join the church?Under what circumstances, if any, is it appropriate for a church to turn down a contribution?
From Todd
Montana: 14.9 members for 1 baptism ratio
New York: 15.4 members for 1 baptism ratio
New England: 15.5 members for 1 baptism ratio
Dakota: 15.7 members for 1 baptism ratio
Iowa: 15.7 members for 1 baptism ratio
Pennsylvania-South Jersey: 16.9 members for 1 baptism ratio
Alabama: 59.2 members for 1 baptism ratio
North Carolina: 59.3 members for 1 baptism ratio
Texas: 65.2 members for 1 baptism ratio
So my question is why do you think this phenomenon is occurring? In what ways does the spiritually harsher climate outside of the Bible belt actually aid in advancement of the Great Commission? Are there lessons to be learned from these non-Bible belt churches as the Bible belt becomes increasingly secular?
From Greg
The crisis has occurred, the old pastor is gone. Conflict was the reason he left. There are hurt and hard feelings between some that remain. What steps are required for healing to occur in the congregation?
From Renee
We are aware of the difficulty within our church as a dying church. There is little to no evangelistic effort - no new non-churched members over the past 5 years. Any growth over the past 3 years has been transfer growth. The majority of our congregation is in denial about the path our church is on without change. The opponents are preserving the church to the point of death.

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Podcast Episode #299

Jimmy Scroggins joins us again and leads us through the major changes he had to make at Family Church as well as what he learned in the process.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Don't waste a good crisis."
  • "When you have the crunch of a crisis, people give you more latitude to make hard decisions."
  • "The toughest change we had to make was cancelling the singing Christmas tree."
  • A multi-site strategy can sometimes drive a name-change for a church.
  • "Don't let the structure of your polity crush your pursuit of vision."
  • "Your church polity should give the pastor and leaders the ability to pursue and lead vision."
  • "Multi-site lets you try out things at other sites that you'd like to do at your main site."
  • "An outward-focused evangelistic culture is the most important development we've seen in our church."

About Jimmy Scroggins
Jimmy is husband to Kristin, father to eight, and lead pastor of Family Church—a network of neighborhood churches dedicated to reaching families in South Florida with the gospel.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Multi-Site Church for the Rest of Us, featuring Jimmy Scroggins – Rainer on Leadership #287
  • Marketplace Bivocational Ministry, featuring Jimmy Scroggins – Rainer on Leadership #294
  • Three Circles App

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Podcast Episode #298

Greeters are important to the first impression your church makes with guests. So, today, we talk about where greeters should be, what they should do, and how to train them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Every church may think they have greeters, but many actually don’t.
  • If I led a church, I would have greeters in the parking lot.
  • Door greeters are an extension of your church security because they are the first line of defense.
  • Greeters should be able to recognize guests and help them find their way when they arrive.
  • Consistency of greeters helps them to know members and recognize guests.
  • The worship center greeter may be the most important one because typically guests sit down and no one talks to them.
  • Greeters need training. They need more than just to say hello and shake a hand.
  • Greeters are a part of your church’s outreach, hospitality, and evangelism efforts.

The eight points we make about the importance of greeters are:

  • The Parking Lot Greeter
  • The Door Greeter
  • Trained to See the Stranger
  • The Forgotten Worship Center Greeter
  • Train Your Greeters
  • Keep the Ministry Fresh
  • Stay Late
  • The Second Greeter Greeting

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  • Leading Change in the Church
  • Mere Church
  • Church Answers

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Podcast Episode #297

Unanimous votes are rare when pastors are hired. But what if the vote isn't even close to unanimous? Well, on today's podcast we discuss a recent post on how to respond when that happens.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Cases can be made both for and against secret ballot votes to call pastors and staff.
  • A pastoral candidate's age difference from the congregation average can lead to a less positive vote.
  • It can be difficult for a new pastor to follow a long-term pastor.
  • "If you're a well-loved, long-term pastor, work on succession planning."
  • Lack of familiarity with a staff position can cause a vote to be lower than normal.
  • Sometimes, low votes to bring on a staff member is more about a faction in the church than the candidate.

The seven questions to ask are:

  • Was the vote secret ballot or open vote?
  • What is the history of the church in voting to call pastors and staff?
  • Are you replacing a well-loved pastor or staff member?
  • Is the position new to many people?
  • How long has the position been vacant?
  • Are there factions and conflict in the church?
  • Were there internal candidates who did not get the position?

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Next by William Vanderbloemen
  • 2017 Pipeline Conference
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Should a Staff Person Fill the Pulpit When There Is No Pastor?

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Podcast Episode #296

Multisite used to be something only large churches tried. Now, smaller churches are getting in on the strategy. Today we discuss why this is a good thing for smaller churches to consider.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • All things being equal, "new" reaches people more than "old."
  • You can start a new church/site/service and reach people you wouldn't reach with an established church/site/service.
  • Going multisite is often better a stewardship of funds than building a massive facility.
  • The Millennial Generation is a leasing generation.
  • Leasing a facility for multisite makes it financially less risky and often assuages some concerns from church members.
  • Worship service gathering sizes are getting smaller to create greater senses of community and intimacy.
  • Multisite provides smaller churches the ability to grow while keeping worship gatherings smaller at the same time.
  • The multisite approach allows you to experiment.

The seven reasons smaller churches are going multisite are:

  • More effective at reaching people.
  • Better stewardship, especially with facilities.
  • Acceptance of non-churchy facilities
  • Acceptance of leasing instead of owning
  • They tend to be mid adopters.
  • The desire to keep the worship service smaller.
  • Processes and bugs are being worked out.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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  • 50 States + Canada Virtual Tour
  • The Bridge Church, Spring Hill

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Podcast Episode #295

When you hear these statements often as a pastor, you should be concerned. These statements are often lead indicators of church death.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Evangelism should be an outgrowth of who we are in Jesus Christ.
  • Evangelism is not necessarily a program or technique. It should be a way of life.
  • When we give money as an offering to our church, we are saying "This is God's money."
  • Churches should focus on meeting true needs, not catering to member preferences.
  • Threats to withhold tithes and offerings are a personal attack on the church staff.
  • Change has always happened in churches, but now change is happening more rapidly.
  • Every generation needs to ask "What can I do to serve the Body of Christ?"

The six statements that can kill a church which we cover today are:

  • "We pay our pastor to do evangelism."
  • "Without our money, this church would be in trouble."
  • "This church is not meeting my needs."
  • "We pay the salary of the pastor and staff, so they should listen to us."
  • "We will let the next generation deal with change."
  • "I was here years before the pastor came; I'll be here years after he's gone."

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  • Six Statements That Can Kill a Church

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Podcast Episode #294

Jimmy Scroggins returns to talk bivocational marketplace ministry and church-based ministry training.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you're going to reach every neighborhood, you're going to need multiple models of church planting.
  • The economics of urban church planting often do not work for the "launch large" model.
  • "There are a lot of people in our churches who feel called to pastoral ministry but don't see a pathway for it."
  • "Most pastors would be shocked at the number of people in their church who feel called to ministry."

About Jimmy Scroggins
Jimmy is husband to Kristin, father to eight, and lead pastor of Family Church—a network of neighborhood churches dedicated to reaching families in South Florida with the gospel.

Episode Sponsors
Are you getting prepared for the changing ministry landscape? Get your Master of Divinity degree at Midwestern Seminary. The M.Div—Midwestern’s flagship degree program—is their primary track for ministry preparation. At just 81 hours, the Midwestern M.Div offers a complete foundation for full-time ministry leaders, offering everything you need, and nothing you don’t. Join other students in vibrant Kansas City as you train in a unique collaborative environment focused on the local church or study online in your current ministry context. Midwestern Seminary is developing a new culture of discipleship devoted to the local church and committed to taking God’s unchanging Word into a rapidly changing world. Join the movement today.
Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • Multi-Site Church for the Rest of Us - Rainer on Leadership #287

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Podcast Episode #293

Last week we discussed how to respond when church giving increases. Today, we look at the other side of the coin—decreased giving. Unfortunately, of these too scenarios, this one is far more common.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • You have to know why church giving has decreased before you can respond strategically.
  • Pastors, be transparent with the staff when facing financial decline in the church.
  • Don't try to hide bad news when you're pastoring a church.
  • There should be ongoing staff discussions throughout the year about budget spending.
  • When budgets get tight, you find out what's essential and what's not.
  • If you don't make budget adjustments throughout the year, you're likely to have a budget battle at the end of the year.
  • The #1 budget question to ask: what is best for the church moving forward?
  • Church budgets should be vision-driven.
  • The vision of the church should drive the budget of the church.

The seven responses to decreased giving that we cover today are:

  • Find out why
  • Determine if it is ongoing or temporary
  • Be transparent
  • Find out where unspent budget possibilities lie
  • Determine: essential, important, optional
  • Make adjustments before year end
  • Create an accurate next-year budget

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #292

In my trends for 2017, I mentioned an increased intentionality on evangelism in the church. Today, we look at five keys to evangelistic growth in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The top 6% of evangelistic churches reach one person each year for every 20 in attendance.
  • The author of salvation is God—not an evangelistic methodology or a program.
  • What a pastor leads and makes important is how the church will respond.
  • I've yet to find an evangelistic church who is not led by an evangelistic pastor.
  • Evangelistic growth, evangelistic atmosphere, and evangelistic environment are all tied together.
  • Church leaders need to be in the habit of sharing their faith and inviting others to church.
  • The more you celebrate evangelism in the church, the more it will happen in the church.

The five keys to renewed evangelistic growth which we discuss are:

  • A small group of church members dedicated themselves to pray for an evangelistic harvest.
  • Pastors make evangelism a personal priority.
  • Leaders in the church teach church members to invite people to church.
  • These churches love the communities in which they are located.
  • These churches have consistent, usually weekly, efforts to connect with unchurched people in the community.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • 10 Major Trends for Churches in 2017
  • Invite Your One
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #291

Today's episode may be a dream for many church leaders. But often, more money for churches can lead to more problems for churches if not handled well.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Today's podcast episode may be about the dream scenario for many pastors and churches.
  • Faster growing churches tend to have lower per capita giving.
  • Giving patterns of families often follow life stages, so determine if increased giving is ongoing or temporary.
  • I prefer the lag approach to church staffing rather than the lead approach.
  • High cash reserves can discourage giving and show a lack of faith.
  • Low cash reserves can indicate a church is not prudent or not planning for the future.
  • In many churches, we erroneously treat the previous year as the base for what will happen the next year.

The nine responses to increased giving that we cover today are:

  • The surprising place where many churches get in trouble
  • Find out why
  • Ask for an age breakdown
  • Determine if ongoing or temporary
  • Be careful before adding personnel
  • Check reserves
  • Be exceedingly careful with one-time gifts
  • Make certain next year's budget is accurate but conservative
  • Postscript: Faith or prudence?

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #290

At the beginning of each year, we predict trends to look for in the church during the coming year. Today we explain why I chose these ten trends for 2017.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In some ways, outreach and evangelism were easier in the past. A greater intentionality is needed today.
  • The gospel does not change, but how we reach people with it does.
  • If you don't have a child protection policy in your church, you are living dangerously.
  • If you have a church credit card, you need checks and balances to ensure all purchases are church related.
  • My hope is that denominational leaders will see church closings as an opportunity instead of a reason for despair.
  • Longer pastoral tenure is correlative to better church health.
  • Healthy churches are being led by leaders who are in a continuous learning mode.

The 10 church trends for 2017 which we discuss are:

  • Renewed emphasis on evangelism.
  • Renewed emphasis on practical ministries.
  • Increased frequency of allegations of child sex abuse in churches.
  • Increased financial fraud in churches.
  • The multi-site movement becoming a neighborhood church movement.
  • An acceleration of church closures.
  • Church acquisitions becoming normative.
  • Worship center downsizing becomes normative.
  • Longer pastoral tenure.
  • The remarkable shift toward continual learning.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Invite Your One
  • Invite Your One featuring Jeremy Roberts
  • Belay Solutions - Church Bookkeeping
  • Multi-Site Church for the Rest of Us, featuring Jimmy Scroggins
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Podcast Episode #289

We look back at our trend predictions for 2016 and see how we fared.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Decreases in worship center size have much to do with the Millennial generation and their desire for community.
  • Replanting and church acquisitions are becoming the preferred methods for successful church revitalization.
  • When people move into gentrified communities, churches typically follow.
  • There has been a doctrinal renewal that has taken place in the church in recent years.
  • If a pastor is not involved in small groups, the church probably doesn't have the healthiest possible groups system.
  • Pastor search committees are realizing they often don't know how to find the best available candidates for a vacancy.
  • Churches that are declining are typically declining at a more rapid pace than ever before.
  • I still think the clock is ticking on the ministerial housing allowance, and it will go away within the next decade.

The 16 trends from 2016 that we cover today are:

  • Church security as the fastest growing ministry.
  • Decrease in worship center size and capacity.
  • Increase in successfully revitalized churches.
  • Rapid growth of coaching ministries for pastors and church staff.
  • Increase in the numbers of churches in gentrified communities.
  • Increased emphasis on practical ministry training.
  • Increasing emphasis on groups in churches.
  • Fewer segregated churches.
  • The rise of the mini-denomination church.
  • Increased pastoral tenure.
  • Rise of alternative ministry placement organizations.
  • Increase in the number of Millennials who are Christians.
  • Accelerated decline of 100,000 American congregations.
  • Churches no longer viewed favorably by many governmental units.
  • More bivocational pastors and staff.
  • Dramatic changes in senior adult ministries.

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Podcast Episode #288

Churches often find themselves with ministries that no longer fit their needs or the needs of those in the community. But pastors often struggle to eliminate them. Today, we discuss how to kill ineffective ministries to allow your church to be more efficient with time and money in ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Most of our churches are too busy, and many have programs or ministries which are no longer effective.
  • Many times we allow ministries to persist because we have a false perception of their effectiveness.
  • Most ineffective ministries will die naturally if leadership doesn't support them.
  • Do the ministries of your church align with your church's vision and mission?
  • Churches need to get honest about effectiveness when it comes to budgeting funds for a ministry.
  • When a ministry is eliminated, the leaders of that ministry often feel devalued.
  • Most church ministries are started out of chaos without a strategic plan for effectiveness.
  • The challenge in ministry is to have a clear vision and stick with it.

The seven steps to killing a ministry or church program which we discuss are:

  • Count the cost
  • Let it die naturally
  • Demonstrate how it is not aligned
  • Have an honest discussion with a key leader of the ministry
  • Minimize funding
  • Find other places for the ministry leaders to serve
  • Have clearly established criteria on the front end

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Breakout Churches
  • Simple Church

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Podcast Episode #287

Jimmy Scroggins joins us to tell the story of Family Church in West Palm Beach, FL, and how they have moved to a model of neighborhood churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If a church calls you as its pastor after not having one for five years, you were not at the top of their list.
  • "We decided to abandon the regional megachurch strategy in favor of a network of neighborhood churches."
  • "Our current models of church planting aren't always financially sustainable in low income areas."
  • "Just because a city is diverse, that doesn't mean the area is culturally integrated. South Florida is."
  • "We are doing multi-site and church planting for the rest of us."
  • "You have to use the resources your church has to train the people you have at the highest level possible."
  • "Every pastor in every neighborhood can be training leaders to reach people who aren't being reached."

About Jimmy Scroggins
Jimmy is husband to Kristin, father to eight, and lead pastor of Family Church—a network of neighborhood churches dedicated to reaching families in South Florida with the gospel.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #286

Church bully cartels are a very real problem in too many churches. Today we look at cartels and how to confront them when they are present in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We have too many Christians who choose to remain silent when faced with sin in the church.
  • It's a sin to be silent when God has called us to speak up against injustice.
  • Christians are often hesitant to speak against injustice inside the church because of potential personal repercussions.
  • It takes a lot more courage to confront injustice inside the church than outside the church.
  • Church leaders must operate from a posture of courage, not from one of fear.
  • Church bully cartels cause church leaders to work from a posture of fear.
  • When the culture of a church turns negative it affects both the leadership and the membership.
  • A church bully cartel quenches the work of the Spirit in the church.

The five realities we discuss are:

  • When a cartel is allowed power, the church is already unhealthy.
  • A church cartel leaves carnages of wounded and dying people.
  • Church cartels drive away healthy leaders.
  • Church cartels cause church leaders to work from a posture of fear.
  • We are told in Scripture to manifest the fruit of the Spirit; the church cartel causes the church to do just the opposite.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Five Dangers of the Church Cartel
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Pastor
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church

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Podcast Episode #285

Church budgets and staff salaries are sometimes sore subjects in churches. Today we examine six trends in church budgeting and salaries that affect churches of any size or denomination.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Growing churches typically have lower per capita giving than established churches.
  • Having a large outside income at a church can discourage tithes and offerings from members.
  • One of the most rapidly growing trends in the church today is the outsourcing of support functions.
  • No matter the church, you can outsource some functions to save funds and create greater efficiencies.
  • We are seeing a gradual decrease in church staffing expenses as a percent of budget.
  • Church staffing needs should be evaluated constantly, not just addressed at budget time or when someone leaves.

The six budget and salary issues we discuss are:

  • Growing churches pay their pastors and staff slightly less than declining churches.

  • Only two percent of the churches’ budgets are funded outside congregational giving.

  • One third of the churches increased the outsourcing of staff over the past five years.

  • Overall church staffing costs have declined to 49 percent of the budget.

  • The attendance-to-staff ratio is 76:1.

  • About 81 percent of churches limit visibility of specific salaries to a board, a subcommittee, or senior staff.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • Church Compensation Trends featuring William Vanderbloemen
  • Nine Virtual Realities for Churches

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Podcast Episode #284

Jeremy Roberts joins us to discuss the results of his church's Invite Your One day. Invite Your One is an intentional high-attendance Sunday in which your church members are encouraged to invite others to church. Jeremy and his church saw remarkable results and today, he shares his story on the podcast.

Through the end of the year, the Invite Your One program is on sale for 50% off the regular price. For more information, visit InviteYour One.com.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • “When church members see others inviting friends to church, they will follow suit.”
  • “The day you choose to have a high-attendance event is extremely important.”
  • “Social media and word of mouth combined worked better than any other advertising we’ve ever done.”
  • You can’t have too many volunteers or too much parking on a high attendance day.
  • Test different types of connection/guest cards so you know what works best in your context.

About Dr. Jeremy Roberts:
Jeremy is married with two children and serves as the Lead Pastor of Church of the Highlands, Chattanooga, TN. He is an Adjunct Professor at Liberty University and Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, an author, blogger and podcaster.

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Podcast Episode #283

Mark Hall, founder of Casting Crowns, joins us to discuss worship, student ministry, and how he and Casting Crowns are rooted in their local church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Student ministry is all about discipleship."
  • "My goal for a student when they graduate is that they have their own walk of faith, not their grandmother’s."
  • "Worship can very easily swing towards more of an experience instead of being focused on who we are singing to."
  • "You can’t ditch Scripture just to make a line rhyme in a worship song."
  • "Ministry isn’t just talking and singing on stage."
  • "People can’t be the well you draw from in ministry."

About Mark Hall & Casting Crowns
Mark Hall is the lead vocalist for the Georgia-based contemporary Christian music group Casting Crowns. Four members of Casting Crowns currently minister at Eagle's Landing First Baptist Church in McDonough, Georgia, where they play during the Contemporary Worship service on Sunday mornings. They do the band part-time around their full-time work of discipling students at the church. They often tour from Thursday to Saturday so that they can be home for church on Sunday morning and Wednesday night.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Very Next Thing
  • Facing the Giants
  • Courageous
  • CastingCrowns.com
  • @MarkHallCC

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Podcast Episode #282

Jim Shaddix joins us to discuss what a healthy relationship between the pastor and worship leader looks like in the local church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "One of the hardest things to do as a worship leader is to worship personally."
  • "The tough part of a pastor working with a worship pastor is when they don't see eye to eye on worship practice."
  • "Worship leading should be a disciple-making event."
  • "If you are going to teach theology through music, the worship pastor needs a good theological lens."
  • "The personal discipleship of a worship leader will show up in the public worship leading."
  • "Humility and genuineness are needed in a worship pastor."
  • It is difficult for a worship leader to plan a service effectively when no input is provided by the pastor.
  • "Mentoring should be a part of all church ministry staff relationships."

About Dr. Jim Shaddix:
Dr. Jim Shaddix serves as Professor of Preaching at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, North Carolina He has pastored churches in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, and Colorado, and also served as Dean of the Chapel and professor of preaching at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary in New Orleans. Jim earned a B.S. in Education from Jacksonville State University in Jacksonville, Alabama, a Master of Divinity and Doctor of Ministry from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth, Texas, and a Doctor of Philosophy in Preaching from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
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Podcast Episode #281

Louie Giglio joins us to discuss the wedding of worship and theology and how the Passion movement has made that a cornerstone of its existence for the past two decades.

Passion is an annual gathering of 18-25 year olds. The next event will take place January 2-4, 2017, in Atlanta, GA, at the Georgia Dome, with more than 60,000 college students expected to fill up the dome and raise the banner of Jesus. Also, this week is a big price break registration deadline—prices go up December 1 so college students and their leaders need to register by Wednesday, November 30 this week to get the best prices. As a bonus to our listeners, if you want to save $20 off of the current price, use the rate code SAVE$20 at checkout.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Worship is our response to who God is and what He has done for us."
  • "A life lived best is a life lived for what matters most."
  • "The gospel is the engine of worship. Without the gospel, there is no worship."
  • "The biggest competitor to worship is a shortsightedness to the gospel."
  • "There's a new generation coming and someone has to be there to point them to Jesus."
  • "We didn't set out to make Passion worship albums. We set out as a theological movement with a theological core."
  • "The greatest thing in time, space, and eternity is the fame, the name, and the glory of Jesus Christ."

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  • Passion Conferences
  • Passion City Church

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Podcast Episode #280

Mike Harland joins us to kick off a four-part series on worship in the church by examining the four essential qualities of a worship leader.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Musical worship should be led skillfully."
  • "Music is not our message in the church. It is our language."
  • "Shepherds develop flocks. Musical artists don't develop people, typically."
  • "If a worship pastor is not relational, he/she can quickly become isolated from the rest of the ministries of the church."
  • "The worship leader who will have tenure and impact beyond the stage is someone who is relational with the people of the church."
  • "Because of the way churches setup their facility and staffs, the music suite can easily become isolated from the rest of the church."
  • "Worship pastors should be involved in the whole mission of the church, not just the music."

The four qualities we discuss are:

  • Musically excellent, but so much more
  • Has a high “RQ”
  • Can play QB, but doesn’t have to
  • Embraces the larger mission

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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  • LifeWayWorship.com

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Podcast Episode #279

When I look at what is happening in the Bible Belt, there are causes for concern as well as opportunities for growth. Today we look at why there is concern and how you can overcome those concerns.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Culture and people have changed over time, but many churches have not.
  • Many churches refuse to admit that the world around them is changing.
  • Cultural Christianity no longer exists—even in the Bible Belt.
  • Sometimes a church's habits become "the only way something can be done."
  • Some people are more obedient to the traditions of a church than they are to the Bible.
  • If you want to find out what a church's idols are, start changing the bylaws.
  • How do you change the culture in an established church? Slowly.

The eight causes of concern for Bible Belt churches we discuss are:

  • They don’t recognize the decline in cultural Christianity.
  • They have many “church rules.”
  • They have leaders who have never led in a highly unchurched mission field.
  • They confuse traditions with truth.
  • They do outreach the way they’ve always done it.
  • They have significant conflict due to frustration.
  • They are very slow to respond.
  • They have significant facility challenges.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Eight Reasons Many Bible Belt Churches Are in Trouble
  • Pastors and Writing with Jared C. Wilson – Rainer on Leadership #269
  • Who Moved My Pulpit?
  • 50 State + Canada Virtual Tour

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Podcast Episode #278

With 70-80% of churches in decline, many are looking for ways to reverse the trend. These five questions will help you address the issue of decline in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In the past, as much as 30% of church attendees came because they thought it was culturally necessary.
  • Even though rural areas are declining in population, there are still unchurched people to reach in each community.
  • One reason many church members don't stay at a church is because they come in with low expectations on them.
  • We have dumbed down what it means to be a church member so much that it often means nothing to people.
  • The competitive mentality between pastors of nearby churches is not nearly as strong as it once was.
  • If church membership is about "meeting my needs," then people will react to change poorly.
  • How someone dresses in church is not a gospel-centric issue.

The five questions to ask yourself to deal with decline in your church are:

  • How do we replace those who used to attend for cultural reasons?
  • How do we replace the Builder generation?
  • How do we replace all the people who have left to go to larger towns and cities?
  • How do we respond to the rapid transfers from our church?
  • How do we respond more quickly to the changes all around us?

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers
  • The Unchurched Next Door
  • Invite Your One
  • Five Things I Pray I Will Not Do as a Senior Adult in the Church
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #277

Healthy churches have healthy church staffs, but unresolved staff conflict can harm a church staff and keep a church from realizing her full potential. Today, we discuss how to handle 12 causes of staff conflict.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • I have seen too many pastors go into a church and get eaten alive because they had no relational skills.
  • Focus on how you can be the best leader with the staff you have been given.
  • A pastor should have a major role in selecting incoming church staff.
  • Chemistry is often bad when someone is in the wrong role for his/her skill set.
  • Regular staff meetings are needed to check the ministry alignment of the church.
  • Make certain your church staff is philosophically aligned and that action reflect that alignment.
  • Staff should be held accountable for their work ethic.
  • I would like to see churches be more consistent in showing appreciation to their pastor and staff.

The 12 reasons for staff conflict which we discuss are:

  • Many church staff persons are woefully trained in leadership and relational skills.
  • Often the church staff involved did not have a role in selecting their team.
  • The chemistry among the staff is bad.
  • The priorities among the staff are not aligned.
  • There is jealousy and insecurity.
  • There is clear insubordination.
  • Church staff have formed unhealthy alliances.
  • Communication is poor.
  • There are work ethic divergences.
  • The staff spend time pointing blame at each other.
  • Solutions are frustrated or thwarted.
  • There is a consistent lack of appreciation.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • Twelve Key Reasons for Church Staff Conflict
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Podcast Episode #276

Church financial issues can sometimes precipitate church death. So today we cover a post by Art Rainer on the warning signs that a church may be dying financially.

Also, we're collecting church budget data for a massive research project. If you'd like to participate, email your church budget to amy@churchanswers.com. Every participant will receive a free copy of the research once it releases, and the first 10 submissions will receive a free copy of Who Moved My Pulpit?

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Stewardship is part of the discipline of Christian life, therefore we should preach on it.
  • Pastors should not apologize for preaching on money and stewardship.
  • If members do not trust the church leadership, they will give less.
  • Consider starting your church budget process with your ministry expenses—not personnel or facility costs.
  • Offering more options for giving typically means all types of giving will increase.
  • Churches should constantly be evaluating how they are spending their money.
  • Churches should be taking steps of financial faith, not financial foolishness.

The eight signs of a financially dying church which we discuss on the show are:

  • Failed to preach and teach stewardship.
  • Took on too much debt.
  • Was not transparent with finances.
  • Used very few dollars to reach and minister to the community.
  • Did not have multiple options for giving.
  • Did not constantly evaluate how funds were spent.
  • Never took wise steps of financial faith.
  • The church relied on a few big givers.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Autopsy of a Financially Deceased Church

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Podcast Episode #275

Christmas is right around the corner for churches, so today we discuss 10 ways your church can better reach those in your community this Christmas.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Christmastime evokes feelings of tradition values that even secularists experience.
  • Nearly seven out of ten churches will have a Christmas Eve service this year.
  • Nearly two-thirds of churches will have Christmas Eve and Christmas Day services this year.
  • Christmas Eve is a time to go traditional with the service: candles, carols, etc.
  • Be sure to use your church Facebook page to promote all that's going on at your church during Christmas.
  • Set your Christmas Eve service times to work for the majority of your congregation and community.
  • Attendees expect candles at the Christmas Eve service.
  • Christmas services should be all-hands-on-deck for church staff.

The 10 Christmas keys we discussed are:

  • Christmas Eve is the time when the unchurched are most receptive to attending church.
  • Traditions are key: traditional hymns and carols, candlelight with Silent Night, etc.
  • The service should be brief, 30-minutes max.
  • Begin promotion the first week in December.
  • Maximize your church Facebook page
  • Have a very simple registration card: first name, email, guest or member, prayer request. Ask everyone to complete it.
  • Combine Invite Your One with Christmas Eve services
  • Prepare for multiple services in most churches, at the very least for greater attendance.
  • Informal is usually the best approach.
  • Plan for staff to have time off post-Christmas.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Podcast Episode #274

Drawing from a recent post on bad church guest experiences, we discuss how churches can respond to or avoid some of these issues.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors typically do not hear about bad guest experiences because the guest simply does not return.
  • Any time you're expecting big crowds, be sure to prepare your members and remind them to sacrifice for others.
  • Sometimes church members need confronting over the way they treat church guests.
  • Some of the most strategic greeters need to be in the worship center greeting those who are seated and waiting.
  • Be sure kids ministry volunteers follow procedures and know where all the kids in their care are.
  • The stand-and-greet-time can inadvertently train your members to think there's only one time to be friendly at church.
  • You've got to follow up with all guests to know if there are issues with how they are treated when visiting your church.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Galactic Starveyors VBS
  • Ministry Grid Greeter Training

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Podcast Episode #273

Maintenance mode can take over in any church regardless of its age or its size. Today, we discuss how to combat it and how to stay focused on the mission.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Regardless of the age or size of a church, the natural tendency is to turn inwardly focused.
  • Reversing the natural tendency of a church requires a supernatural response.
  • Churches often have too many activities because they won't get rid of the ones that need to go.
  • Almost any time you try to stop doing something in a church you will meet resistance.
  • When you do something different that how a church has always done it, you will have conflict.
  • Strategy is implicit and explicit throughout Scripture.
  • There are very few times when culture is amenable to the church.
  • A church's attitude has to turn around before the actions of the church will turn around.

The 11 reasons churches move from growth to maintenance are:

  • It is a natural tendency.
  • Too many activities (keeping the plates spinning).
  • Failure to kill programs and activities
  • Conflict
  • Lack of strategic leadership
  • Pet programs and preferences
  • Biblical drift
  • Excuses
  • Lack of faith
  • Lack of courage
  • Comfort

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #272

Church compensation is always a hot topic of discussion, so on a recent trip through Nashville, William Vanderbloemen stopped in to discuss some new research and what he's seeing right now in church search.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Large churches are starting to move toward merit-based bonus compensation for the senior pastor.
  • "It's not helpful for everyone to know everything about the pastor's compensation package."
  • Outsourcing administrative staff is only going to increase in church offices.
  • "Churches are paying more money to fewer people on staff."
  • "Children's curriculum has outpaced the pipeline of qualified children's ministers."
  • Churches should spend their staffing money on ministerial roles, not administrative roles.
  • "Great student pastors can often make great children's pastors."
  • "Student ministry, like children's ministry, is mostly about ministering to the parents and volunteers."
  • The ownership and usage of parsonages is actually on the rise in churches.

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Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Search
  • LeadNet.org/salary
  • eaHELP (affiliate link)
  • BadHireCalculator.church
  • Uncontainable

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Podcast Episode #271

Zechariah 4 serves as the textual basis for today's discussion on being a biblical church member.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A healthy church is nothing more or nothing less than healthy church members.
  • The New Testament is clear that believers are to be a part of a local church.
  • When someone is struggling with change in the church, the first thing you do is treat them pastorally.
  • The reality for many churches is "change or die."
  • No matter the size of the church, whether big or small, we all serve a big God.
  • "Building the House of God" means having a witness that reaches those who don't yet know Christ.
  • As a church gets busier, the two things that get neglected most are prayer and evangelism.
  • Don't make anyone else the scapegoat for your evangelistic weakness.

The four commitments church members must make are:

  • I will wake up to reality.
  • I will seek God, not my preferences.
  • I will believe God can overcome all obstacles.
  • I will build the house of God.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Will
  • 50 States + Canada Virtual Tour

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Podcast Episode #270

We cover listener questions on a host of topics including multi-level marketing in the church—something we've never really discussed on the podcast or blog.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Fellow church members should not be seen as targets for multi-level marketing and sales.
  • One of the worst things an associate pastor can do is become disloyal to the pastor.
  • Pastors should get over the idea that they should only be working in the office.
  • It takes intentionality to build relationships with non-Christians.
  • Church leaders should prescribe curriculum or curriculum choices to their groups.
  • You have to be intentional about training small group leaders.
  • It's always easier to connect training to weekly worship service times because people are already on campus.

The five topics we cover in the questions are:

  • Multi-level marketing and sales in the church
  • Leading from the second chair
  • Building relationships with non-Christians
  • Helping members financially
  • Selecting groups curriculum and training leaders

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Leading from the Second Chair podcast episode with Brad Waggoner

Questions covered on today's podcast
From Matt
Within all of the churches I have been a part of there is the issue of the attending salesmen. It could be a member who has an insurance company, owns a mechanic shop or sells Avon. Often I have an impression or an overt request, that because the members offer goods and services it is expected that everyone within the church "network" use their product. What is the best course of action for leaders and congregants to take, especially if one would rather use other sources for the same product?
From Eric
I am a young pastor and I am only in my fourth year of full-time ministry as the associate pastor in our church. I have tried to move slowly in creating change and I have done my best to be sensitive to the feelings of our congregation when the need for change arises, but they often see me as nothing more than a young pastor who just wants to change for the...

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Podcast Episode #269

Jared Wilson joins us today to talk about how writing informs blogging and vice versa as well as what it's like to go from pastoring in one of the most-churched states in America to one of the least-churched.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The way people consume content online has really changed over the past 10-15 years.
  • "I would rather have my preaching drive the way I blog than the way I blog drive my preaching."
  • "Sermons need to be driven by a text; blogposts don't."
  • "The blog world is a great place to test drive content and process how you think about a topic."
  • "The downside of being on the front end of something is that you don't really know what you're doing."
  • "I was in a place in New England where people weren't Christians and knew they weren't."
  • "Be patient enough that you're not pushing people, but leading them."
  • "You find what a church's idols are by changing things."

About Jared C. Wilson:
Jared C. Wilson is the Director of Content Strategy for Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and Managing Editor of For The Church, Midwestern's site for gospel-centered resources.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Gospel-Driven Church
  • jaredcwilson.com
  • Gospel Wakefulness

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Podcast Episode #268

We conclude our two-part series on multiple styles of worship in today's episode. If you missed part one on why you shouldn't have multiple styles of worship (Episode 267), you can listen to it here.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Overall, I am more for a singular style of worship at a church than multiple styles.
  • Most communities do not have an abundance of musicians, which makes multiple worship styles difficult.
  • Most of the time, we change worship styles by default, by accident, or by crisis.
  • Don’t presume one style that is in style is the style for the style of the day.
  • The demographics and psychographics of an area might call for a style of worship that might surprise your church.
  • Treating one style of worship service in your church as a step child will cause division and conflict.

The five reasons to have multiple worship styles are:

  • It is absolutely necessary for the unity of the church.
  • You truly have multiple types of congregations.
  • You have an abundance of different types of musicians.
  • It is a part of a prayerful and well-thought strategy.
  • There is a strong effort and intentionality to avoid the stepchild syndrome.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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  • Percept Group

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Podcast Episode #267

In this first part of a two-part series on worship styles, we look at why you shouldn't have multiple styles of worship at your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Multiple service styles can create a sense of superiority or inferiority in a church.
  • When churches have multiple worship styles, it's often easy to tell which the pastor prefers.
  • There are a lot of things your church can do, but that doesn't mean that you should actually do them.
  • Churches have made themselves so incredibly busy and complex.
  • Multiple worship styles can drain resources and people from other ministries of the church.
  • Sometimes change is just not possible because of change resistance in the church.
  • More than a few pastors have changed churches because the worship style changed and they could not adapt.
  • Blended worship is an actual style, it is not a compromise between traditional and contemporary.

The seven reasons not to have multiple styles of worship are:

  • It can created a divided congregation.
  • It is usually difficult to find quality musicians for the multiple styles.
  • The stepchild syndrome is common.
  • It can create a misaligned congregation.
  • It can add to the busyness of the church.
  • Conflict can arise over preferred times of worship.
  • It can force the preacher to make choices as well.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Who Moved My Pulpit?

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Podcast Episode #266

Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., joins us to talk about cultural issues in the church and how pastors can best minister in our changing cultural landscape.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • “In about 25 years time, we’ve seen the most concentrated, high-velocity social change that human beings have ever experienced.”
  • “We need pastors whose intuition and worldview are shaped by the Scripture, not culture.”
  • “We need pastors who can abstract themselves from culture and think strategically about it.”
  • “Millennials at seminary are not a product of nominal Christianity. They have a life shaping relationship with Jesus.”
  • “A church needs to be very clear in terms of its policies on whom it will marry.”
  • “Pastor, you’re not wrong when you think that the whole world has changed. It has.”
  • “Defining reality is an important part of Christian preaching.”
  • “Every conversation is an opportunity to be a gospel conversation.”

About Dr. Mohler:
Dr. R. Albert Mohler Jr. serves as president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Boyce College and has been recognized by such influential publications as Time and Christianity Today as a leader among American evangelicals. In addition to his presidential duties, Dr. Mohler hosts two programs: “The Briefing,” a daily analysis of news and events from a Christian worldview; and “Thinking in Public,” a series of conversations with the day’s leading thinkers. He also writes a popular blog and a regular commentary on moral, cultural and theological issues at albertmohler.com.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • AlbertMohler.com
  • The Briefing
  • Thinking in Public
  • The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
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Podcast Episode #265

Its rare to find a church who doesn't think they are friendly. But don't be fooled, not all churches are friendly. They just think they are.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Many churches are not friendly because the people are in holy huddles.
  • You have to have an eye for those you do not know in the church if you want to be genuinely friendly.
  • I know they're probably out there, but I've yet to meet a church guest who likes the stand-and-greet time.
  • The stand-and-greet time can (and often does) become a substitute for genuine friendliness.
  • Are your announcements in code or could someone unfamiliar with your church understand them?
  • After the pastor, the first staff member I would hire is probably a children's minister.
  • If your church wants to reach young families, you have to be reaching and ministering to their kids.
  • Guest friendliness is an overflow of who you are the rest of the week.

The six reasons why churches really aren't friendly to guests are:

  • The holy huddle syndrome.
  • The stand-and-greet satisfier.
  • The I-don’t-live-here reality.
  • The insider language mystery.
  • The unhappy kid/unhappy parent problem.
  • The 6 + 1 dilemma.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Secret Guest Survey
  • Church Facility Audit

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Podcast Episode #264

Discipleship is critical to many aspects of the church, but today we discuss the link between the lack of discipleship and dropping out of church. It's a much closer link that you might think. Disciple's Path is but one resource we mention that might help combat this.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches where people demand to be served instead of being servants have ceased being Biblical churches—they are religious country clubs.
  • When people see church as an option, church membership and attendance becomes disposable.
  • Once you start treating church as disposable, that's when you begin to drop out.
  • If we truly have a servant attitude, we won't see church attendance as optional.
  • If you don't challenge someone on the front end, you will have trouble holding them accountable later on.
  • People want to be a part of a church that is making a difference.
  • Discipleship often begins with preaching—but it does not end there.
  • The most common characteristic found in true disciples is daily Bible reading.
  • The most common question I get from pastors about discipleship is "where do we start?"

The four reasons for dropping out of church that we discuss are:

  • The disposable mindset.

  • People aren’t serving.

  • People aren’t challenged.

  • People aren’t discipled.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Disciple's Path
  • Discerning Your Call to Ministry, Featuring Dr. Jason Allen

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Podcast Episode #263

This recent post at ThomRainer.com sparked an intense debate on the subject of pastors and visitation. So today, we highlight that post and the points made in the post and the comments.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors are to equip members for the work of the ministry.
  • If a pastor is doing all the ministry in a church, the members are having their God-given mandate taken away.
  • Many of our congregations today have a “serve me” mentality.
  • If the pastor is only caring for the people in the church, the people will only care for the people in the church.
  • The lives of your members inform your sermons, but the Text guides what you preach.
  • So many times pastors are worried about pacifying the saints that they fail to reach out to sinners.
  • If you take away from a pastor’s outward focus, you’re likely taking away from the church’s evangelistic push.
  • Pastoral turnover is too high in a lot of denominations.
  • Biblical church members want to be a part of a church that’s making a difference.

The 15 reasons why pastors should not be the only ones visiting members are:

  • It’s unbiblical.
  • It deprives members of their roles and opportunities.
  • It fosters a country club mentality.
  • It turns a church inwardly.
  • It takes away from sermon preparation.
  • It takes away from the pastor’s outward focus.
  • It takes away vital leadership from the pastor.
  • It fosters unhealthy comparisons among the members.
  • It is never enough.
  • It leads to pastoral burnout.
  • It leads to high pastoral turnover.
  • It puts a lid on Great Commission growth of the church.
  • It leads pastors to get their affirmation from the wrong source.
  • It causes biblical church members to leave.
  • It is a sign that the church is dying.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #262

I'm often asked for advice on discerning a call to ministry. Dr. Jason Allen joins us to flesh out this call and discuss his new book on the topic.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Every Christian everywhere is called to minister."
  • "The first sign of a call to ministry is an intense, all-absorbing desire for the work.”
  • "God has very clear expectations for how the minister should live."
  • "Ministry is not a one-time threshold to cross; it's an ongoing accountability to God's Word and God's people."
  • "The testimony of the church in many ways hinges on the testimony of those who lead it."
  • "The church is responsible for the leaders they call."
  • "Churches are cosigning on the lives of students they send to seminary."
  • "If the gospel is not the center of ones passion in ministry, one won't last too long in ministry."

About Dr. Jason Allen:
Dr. Jason K. Allen serves as president of Midwestern Seminary. He has served as pastor and interim pastor of churches in Alabama and Kentucky over the past fifteen years. He currently serves the church more broadly through writing and preaching ministries, including his own website (jasonkallen.com) and podcast (Preaching and Preachers). He and his wife, Karen, have five children: Anne-Marie, Caroline, William, Alden, and Elizabeth.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Discerning Your Call to Ministry
  • Midwestern Seminary
  • JasonKAllen.com

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Podcast Episode #261

The relationship between the music leader and a pastor is one of the most important relationships in the church. In this episode Mike Harland explains why.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • “What happens on Sunday morning isn’t two things (music and preaching)—it’s one thing (worship).”
  • “Worship is not a performance ministry. It’s a discipleship ministry.”
  • “There needs to be a cadence of communication between the music leader and the pastor.”
  • “A church can sense the health of the relationship between the pastor and music leader.”
  • “If you're looking for a worship leader, you better know the pastor's heart and what to look for.”
  • “The relationship between pastor and music leader is much like that of a marriage.”
  • The relationship between pastor and music leader is one of the most important personal relationships in the church.

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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Worship Life with Mike Harland

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Podcast Episode #260

Virtual outsourcing can be a real advantage for churches when used appropriately. We cover nine areas that can save churches time and money in this episode.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Sometimes it’s better to have someone on the outside do things for you that aren’t core to the ministry of the church.
  • Too many leaders hold onto everything, and they start doing things they do not need to be doing.
  • An outside search firm doesn’t replace your search committee. It makes the committee more efficient & effective.
  • It’s important to have a web developer who understands the unique online needs of churches.
  • When outsourcing tasks in the church, make you you partner with church-centric groups.
  • Imagine doing your church announcements and people actually paying attention.
  • When done correctly, outsourcing can lead to better quality, better stewardship, and a more professional end product.

The nine areas of virtual outsourcing that we discuss are:

  • Virtual assistants - eaHELP
  • Virtual pastor and staff search process - Vanderbloemen Search Group
  • Virtual bookkeeping - MAG Bookkeeping
  • Virtual mobile app developers - Twenty:28
  • Virtual graphic designers - 99 Designs
  • Virtual web design and development - Mere Church
  • Virtual webmaster - Render
  • Virtual writers - Ellipsis
  • Virtual Announcements - Pro Video Announcements

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America, exists to train leaders For The Church. The local church is God’s “Plan A” for the proclamation of the gospel, and there is no Plan B. And this is Midwestern’s vision and heartbeat—equipping pastors and other ministry leaders who are called to expand God’s mission in the world through the local church. At Midwestern Seminary: they train leaders ‘For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Podcast Episode #259

Dying churches is a frequent topic on the blog. Today, we discuss four specific models of churches that can be considered on a path to death.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Without the centrality of Scripture, you don't really have a church.
  • The natural tendency of a Christian or a Church is to drift away from Scripture.
  • If you look in the mirror and ask the right questions, you will get a dose of reality.
  • There's a big difference in a country club and a church.
  • The country club church is pervasive in western culture.
  • Church business meetings are typically a time of dread for pastors and staff.
  • A "Bad Words Church" ultimately becomes a toxic church.
  • A lot of churches are metaphorically burning down, and no one is yelling "FIRE!"

The four types of dying churches we discuss are:

  • The Ex-Bible Church
  • The Country Club Church
  • The Bad Words Church
  • The Ex-Community Church

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more at mbts.edu/mdiv.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Why Conservative Churches Are Growing
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #258

Reflecting on a post by Sam Rainer, we discuss the parameters of when office hours are needed—and not needed—for church staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Does your staff have a good work ethic? Do you trust them? Are they accountable?
  • At least a modest number of office hours is a good thing for church staff.
  • The world of ministry is not an 8-5 job.
  • Ministry does not happen on a set schedule.
  • Many pastors never feel like they are “off duty.”
  • A church staff is there to do ministry, not just to serve the pastor.
  • If I don’t trust someone on my leadership team, I don’t want them on my team.
  • Most church revitalizations come from churches who love their community enough to be in their community more and more.

The seven reasons for not requiring office hours that we discuss are:

  • The church bubble is often the church building.
  • Ministry does not happen on a set schedule.
  • The pastor is selfish.
  • People are more accessible because of technology.
  • Trust.
  • Fewer walk-ins.
  • Creating a culture of going.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Keys to a Multi-Generational Worship Ministry
  • Six Reasons Why Church Members Choose One Worship Service Over Another

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Podcast Episode #257

Other than salary and benefits, these ministry tools of the trade can be some of the most helpful for pastors and church staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • These items are extremely helpful for pastors and staff when doing ministry.
  • If you want to make a pastor or staff member happy, tell them they have a book allowance.
  • If churches can't afford to pay for the cost of continuing education, they can at least consider giving time off if needed.
  • I have been delighted with how churches have started making coaching available to pastors and staff.
  • Pastors in civic clubs have great opportunities to meet community leaders.
  • Your church might not be able to provide all of these, but churches can provide at least some of them.

The thirteen tools of the trade we discuss are:

  • Computer
  • Cell phone
  • Books
  • Online Study Library
  • Conferences
  • Continuing education
  • Automobile
  • House
  • Book Shelves
  • Health Club Membership
  • Subscriptions
  • Coaching
  • Civic Club Membership

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • WORDsearch: Visit myWSB.com and register for an account. Use redemption code: G42VVVWP9R to access your free Pastor’s Library.
  • MyLeadershipPipeline.com
  • ChurchAnswers.com
  • Ministers’ Housing Allowance – Rainer on Leadership #035

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Podcast Episode #256

As multiple worship services become more normative, the reasons people choose one service over another are not quite as simple as worship style.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Yes, some people choose a worship service based on style, but there are often other reasons.
  • Small group timing will affect what worship service people choose to attend.
  • When planning new service times, understand the motivations for people coming at different times.
  • More than ever before, people are making week-to-week decisions on which worship time to attend.

The six reasons church members choose one service over another are:

  • Language preference.
  • Time preference.
  • Style preference.
  • Group preference.
  • Family situation.
  • Week-to-week decision.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Keys to a Multi-Generational Worship Ministry
  • Six Reasons Why Church Members Choose One Worship Service Over Another

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Podcast Episode #255

Mike Harland joins us again to discuss worship in the church and how multiple styles can segregate generations within a local community of faith.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches are looking to go back to one worship style more than they are looking to move to multiple worship styles.
  • "If our worship and Bible study are segregated, the generations in the church never interact with one another."
  • "Placating musical preferences created a generational divide in many churches."
  • "I think we've put a little too much faith in a church's music style as an attraction."
  • "I'm afraid many churches changed their musical style out of desperation to grow the church."
  • "In most churches with multiple styles, there is a winning service and a losing service."
  • "The family unit is the most important small group unit in the church."
  • "God didn't call us to make music; He called us to make disciples."
  • "There are churches who do multiple worship styles well."

The four topics we discuss are:

  • Churches moving back to one style for all generations
  • Generational Interdependence
  • Great examples to learn from
  • The "Experiencing God" principle

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Worship Life with Mike Harland
  • LifeWayWorship.com
  • The Church at Station Hill
  • Community Bible Church
  • The Children's Worship Series
  • Multi-Gen

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Podcast Episode #254

Church bullies are a problem in many churches. Here are eight ways to spot them in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church bullies don't just have one of these symptoms, but multiple.
  • A strong personality does not a bully make.
  • You can't argue your way into favor with a church bully.
  • Arguing with a church bully can make things even worse.
  • Times of growth in a church often cause church bullies to try and keep the status quo.
  • The worst thing we can do sometimes is ignore problems in the church and think they'll go away on their own.

The eight signs of church bullies are:

  • They are among the first in the church to tell you how much they love you.
  • They have strong personalities.
  • They are highly opinionated.
  • They are terrible listeners.
  • They build unhealthy alliances.
  • They murmur and gossip.
  • They do most of their toxic work in darkness.
  • They have been to several churches.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • The Insanity of God featuring Nik and Ruth Ripken – Rainer on Leadership #251
  • Fourteen Symptoms of Toxic Church Leaders
  • Top Trends and Biggest Mistakes in Pastor Searches, featuring William Vanderbloemen – Rainer on Leadership #237

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Podcast Episode #253

Experience takes time and doesn't come without mistakes. Today we discuss a recent post on rookie pastors and the mistakes they make as well as how to avoid them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Most rookie pastors have never had to handle HR issues until they're in charge and then have no experience.
  • You should not go into personnel issues without guidance or someone by your side.
  • If you're a pastor, you will get criticism. It comes with the territory.
  • The pastorate is the place for both workaholics and lazy bums.
  • It is so easy for pastors not to be disciplined with their time.
  • You can find help in almost any area. You just have to ask.
  • You can have friends; you can have people you hang out with; but you cannot show favoritism in the church.
  • Leaders are learners.

The eight mistakes to avoid are:

  • They handle personnel issues with difficulty.
  • They amplify criticisms.
  • They are not disciplined with their schedules.
  • They don’t often ask for help.
  • They demonstrate favoritism.
  • They don’t seek feedback or coaching.
  • They don’t continue their education.
  • They are influenced by the latest fad or group.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Eight Common Mistakes Rookie Pastors Make
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #252

Healthy churches of tomorrow will likely reflect these characteristics.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastoral longevity doesn't guarantee health in a church, but a series of short pastorates almost guarantees an unhealthy church.
  • Most churches that have consistent health have consistent leadership.
  • Many Millennial pastors don't see church hopping or ladder climbing as part of their future.
  • As culture becomes more hostile to churches, you church's community presence becomes more important.
  • New members' classes allow you to instill an outward focus into new members in the church.
  • Setting expectations and providing information are essential to assimilation into the life of the church.
  • The more adversity a church has, the more opportunities for gospel witness it has.
  • The assimilation rate for someone connected to a group is five times higher than someone attending worship alone.
  • When people are excited about their church, they naturally invite others to come.

The 10 signs of healthy churches 10 years from now are:

  • They have the same pastor they did ten years ago.
  • The pastor, staff, and church members have a decade of calling to the local community.
  • The church will be as diverse as the community.
  • The church will have responded to its international mission field in its own backyard for ten years.
  • The church will have had a consistent and strategic outward focus for a decade.
  • All new members the past ten years will have attended a new members’ class.
  • The church will have seen the cultural changes of the decade as opportunities rather than threats.
  • At least 80 percent of the worship attendance will have moved to a small group over the decade.
  • At least 50 percent of the attendance will have invited at least four people to church each year.
  • Every year for ten years these churches will have become more joyous and fun.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Podcast Episode #251

Nik and Ruth Ripken join us to discuss The Insanity of God and their story of God's faithfulness.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "On the mission field, you can't look at lost people in the eye and say 'I want to quit.'"
  • "When our son died, it's not that it didn't rip my heart out, it just felt like it was our turn."
  • "Our kids would be stoned off their bikes in South Africa because they were mistaken for Afrikaners."
  • "Until you cross the street to be with people, you don't really realize who they are."
  • "What is it going to cost us to share Christ with our neighbors?"
  • "It's in the context of breaking bread with others that walls come down in our lives."
  • "The loneliest person in the church is the pastor."

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Podcast Episode #250

Our mailbag is overflowing, so we answer a few listener questions about topics related church leadership.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Hospitality is a desire to bring people into your social sphere and should be modeled by pastors.
  • Sometimes there are low-hanging fruit at your church that you don't need to pick.
  • Look at the demographics of your community and see where your church can be most effective.
  • Ask the question: What is one easy change we could make that would make an immediate impact in the church?
  • Vision shouldn't be dictated, but dialogued.
  • Churches typically err on the side of not giving enough information when a staff member is let go.

The questions we answered in this episode are:

From Aaron
In looking at the qualifications of the pastor (1 Timothy, Titus), one qualification that gets overlooked is "hospitality." I find very little written on this even in commentaries. What does hospitality look like—especially in the life of the pastor?

From Brent
I recently heard a radio program where the pastor said his church was no longer doing "outside" weddings because of the political climate today. The question is, how do we use our facilities more with the public when that could open us to lawsuits or living outside of our beliefs?

From Kent
It seems like a majority of articles related to church leadership over the last couple of years have been devoted to the subject of reaching Millennials. While I don’t disagree that this is a crucial topic for the church, are we putting too much emphasis on Millennials?

From Andy
I am in the process of transitioning from a church of around 700 in attendance to a church of 120 (both numbers are Sunday mornings). My prior position was as the children's minister at the larger church, and my new position is as the Pastor of a one man staff church. How long do you wait before making any changes, what are best practices to make connections and meet the people? Should I begin instituting new ministries at the start or shore up the ones already in place? What are some good ways to make sure I don't lose my family in the process of transition? Should I have a live camel in the auditorium?

From George
How much of your vision do you share with the church? And how much do you just do without comment? Can you overshare and just give people more opportunities to worry or question?

From CJ
I am not a pastor but I have deep concerns for what is happening in my church which is on the decline and in my opinion spiritually dead, if not, critically ill. Is there an appropriate time to ask a pastor to move on from a church? Is it wrong to confront a pastor on activities of an ethical nature?

From Kevin
Could you suggest what transparency might look like before the church when a staff person is let go? We released a office staffer for a culmination of on-going issues such as a willingness to allow on-going immoral issues in their home, continual negative public comments regarding the church, a continual practice of going to various church members to borrow money and then not pay it back, in addition, she had ceased to take part in the church (she is a member). These things were addressed over time with her as we deemed appropriate. We were counseled not to say too much publicly in order to avoid potential 'wrongful termination' situations. Yet, the couple are contacting people in the church and sharing inaccurate information and stirring up more divisiveness.

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Podcast Episode #249

Time wasting can be a problem regardless of what line of work you're in. Today we examine time drainers and how they can lessen your ministry effectiveness.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Don't take people away from their main task by filling up their schedules with meetings.
  • Check your bylaws to see if you really are required to have certain meetings or are just having them out of habit.
  • Deal with inquiries immediately instead of scheduling time for meetings later in the week.
  • When you're glad you have something to distract you, that's a sign of a bad meeting.
  • Meetings need definite end times to be the most efficient.
  • You don't have to answer every phone call at the time it comes in.
  • To save yourself from distraction, turn off as many smartphone notifications as possible.
  • A productive assistant will make you more productive as well.

The eight time drainers we solve are:

  • Regularly scheduled meetings
  • Add-on meetings
  • Non-productive meetings
  • Telephone calls
  • Social media complexity
  • Old school secretaries
  • Time in the car
  • Counseling

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • eaHELP (affiliate link)
  • Eight Time Drainers of Pastors and Staff (and Eight Solutions)

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Podcast Episode #248

Community-focused churches often have these nine traits. Also in this episode, we talk about civic organizations and call an elk.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If I were the new pastor at a church, one of the first things I would do is get to know the community leaders.
  • Unfortunately in some communities it has taken crisis to force churches to be more involved in the community.
  • The church should show itself as a servant of the community in one way or the other.
  • Churches can be involved in their community no matter how big or small of a church they are.
  • There will be times when the community will make requests of your church. Look for ways to meet those needs.
  • Look for needs where your church can go to the community without asking for anything in return.
  • Don't miss the opportunities you have to invite others to church. Typically, people are more receptive than you expect.
  • This is not a checklist for one person, this is a checklist for the church.

The nine signs of a community-focused church are:

  • Reaches out to community leaders
  • Intentionality about being where the people are
  • The community of eating out and coffee houses
  • Helping where the community says they need it
  • Intentionally evangelistic
  • Intentionally invitational
  • In the key civic groups
  • In key political meetings
  • In the schools

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Search
  • JoshuaStraub.com
  • Data.Point
  • SBC This Week

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Podcast Episode #247

Pastors go through several emotions when church members leave. Today, we cover five reasons why.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Even when someone has a good reason for leaving a church, it still feels very personal when they leave.
  • It's not just pastors who hurt when church members leave. Staff, members and leaders do as well.
  • Almost every community has a "hot church" that some church members chase after.
  • New members classes allow churches to discuss and deter serial church hopping.
  • It's normal for pastors to hurt when church members leave.
  • There is a grief process for pastors when a church member leaves.
  • Pastors, if you ever get to a point where a church member leaving doesn't hurt, you've got a problem.

The five reasons it hurts when a church members leaves are:

  • It feels like personal rejection.
  • Relationships have developed.
  • There has been much time invested.
  • There is concern for the overall morale of the church.
  • There is a fear others will follow.

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Who Moved My Pulpit?

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Podcast Episode #246

Carey Nieuwhof joins us once more to talk about the nuts and bolts of podcasting for pastors and church leaders.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "You can be innovative in your podcast format. It's your show."
  • Producing a podcast is often something done in the margins.
  • "A host's unique contribution to a podcast is relationships and interviews."
  • "Let your podcast guest be the hero, and they can take you places in your episode."
  • "If you're in someone's ears through a podcast, you can build a greater relationship with them,"
  • "If you're going to commit to releasing a podcast you need to hit release dates."
  • "If you miss release dates, you lose trust from your audience."

About Carey Nieuwhof
Carey is the author of several best-selling books, including the Amazon #1 best-selling Lasting Impact: 7 Powerful Conversations That Will Help Your Church Grow. He is also the author of Leading Change Without Losing It and co-author of Parenting Beyond Your Capacity.
Carey writes one of today's most widely read Christian leadership blogs at www.careynieuwhof.com and hosts the top-rated Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, where he interviews some of today's best leaders. He speaks to North American and global leaders about leadership, change and personal growth.
Carey Nieuwhof is the founding pastor of Connexus Church, a growing multi-campus church north of Toronto and strategic partner of North Point Community Church. Prior to starting Connexus, Carey served for 12 years in a mainline church, transitioning three small congregations into a single, rapidly growing church.
He and his wife Toni live near Barrie, Ontario and have two sons.

Episode Sponsors
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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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  • Pastors and Podcasting - Episode #245
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Podcast Episode #245

Carey Nieuwhof drops by to talk podcasting for pastors and church leaders.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "If you struggle with something in ministry, it's likely someone else has as well."
  • "Podcast guests are typically very accommodating."
  • "Don't have anything on your podcast that you're not passionate about."
  • "I want to get people on the podcast who are going to help listeners."
  • "Check your motivation before starting anything new."
  • "15 minutes of boring is 15 minutes too long."
  • "Subject matter often drives podcast downloads more than guest notoriety."

About Carey Nieuwhof
Carey is the author of several best-selling books, including the Amazon #1 best-selling Lasting Impact: 7 Powerful Conversations That Will Help Your Church Grow. He is also the author of Leading Change Without Losing It and co-author of Parenting Beyond Your Capacity.
Carey writes one of today's most widely read Christian leadership blogs at www.careynieuwhof.com and hosts the top-rated Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, where he interviews some of today's best leaders. He speaks to North American and global leaders about leadership, change and personal growth.
Carey Nieuwhof is the founding pastor of Connexus Church, a growing multi-campus church north of Toronto and strategic partner of North Point Community Church. Prior to starting Connexus, Carey served for 12 years in a mainline church, transitioning three small congregations into a single, rapidly growing church.
He and his wife Toni live near Barrie, Ontario and have two sons.

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Search
  • CareyNieuwhof.com
  • Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
  • Lasting Impact

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Podcast Episode #244

Staff conflict creates division in churches and leads to an unhealthy church. It's something to deal with head on with wisdom and grace.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The pastor should play a major role in hiring new church staff.
  • Try to give inherited staff a chance when you come on as a new pastor.
  • There seems to be more church staff conflict today than there has been in the past.
  • When the congregation has conflict with one another, that fosters staff conflict as a result.
  • The purpose of church members and staff is to serve, not to be served.
  • Generational divides in the church go much deeper than worship style.
  • Because of looser accountability in churches, staff tend to drift toward either workaholism or laziness.
  • Sometimes we use grace to cover for and allow for bad work habits.
  • If you have conflict on your staff, you need to deal with it in order to become a healthy church.

The eight points of staff conflict we cover on the episode are:

  • More likely to occur when leader does not choose own staff.
  • Conflict seems to be happening more frequently.
  • Resolution groups are not much help.
  • Common issue: "old school vs. new school"
  • Another reason: the lazy staff person.
  • There is an unwillingness of many churches to address staff conflict adequately.
  • Alternative plan: focus efforts outwardly
  • Don't kick the can.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Church Answers
  • Search
  • Why Pastors Often Leave Their Church in the Third Year

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Podcast Episode #243

Make the most out of your next ministry conference with these five tips.

Also in today's podcast, we discuss the upcoming Pipeline Conference. You can find out more about the event at the conference website: MyLeadershipPipeline.com. Early registration ends July 31, and you can save 15% on registration by using the promo code rainer16 at checkout. There are even group rates for you to bring your entire leadership team to the conference.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • You can communicate the content of a conference to coworkers, but not the spirit of a conference.
  • Some of the best church leaders I know are constant learners.
  • When you take your leadership team members with you to a conference, you show that you value the entire team.
  • Go to conferences with the attitude that you expect to learn while there.
  • Just the act of writing something down helps you remember it later.
  • Even the greatest expository sermon should have life application as well.
  • Great preaching is not just informational, it's transformational as well.

The five ways you can make the most from a ministry conference are:

  • Go as a team.
  • Go to learn, not just listen.
  • Write it down and take it with you.
  • Discuss it.
  • Implement it immediately when you get back.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Discerning Your Call to Ministry
  • LifeWay Leadership
  • Leadership Pipeline Conference
  • 5 Leadership Questions with Barnabas Piper and Todd Adkins
  • Content Inc.

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Podcast Episode #242

Discussions on pastors and funerals as well as what to watch for, what to have prepared, and what to avoid.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Know the community traditions related to funerals.
  • Don't just read a script when officiating a funeral. Personalize it if at all possible.
  • Have a personal policy of what funerals you will do and whether you will do out of town funerals.
  • Know who else will be speaking at a funeral you're officiating.
  • Be prepared to intervene if things go off the rails at a funeral.
  • If possible, try to be the last speaker at a funeral to have the ability to share the hope of the resurrection.

The eight key issues regarding funerals that we cover are:

  • Decide your parameters for doing funerals.
  • Know the traditions of the community.
  • Meet with the family to personalize the message.
  • Brevity is best.
  • The issue of the financial charge.
  • Expectations of the family.
  • Expect something different.
  • Share the gospel in your message.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • Fifteen Crazy Things That Happened at Weddings
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Podcast Episode #241

Mike Harland returns to the podcast to discuss worship as discipleship.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Discipleship is something that should be passed from generation to generation in our families.
  • The most quoted book of the Bible is the book of Psalms.
  • Every spiritual discipline you can think of is represented in at least one psalm.
  • Music should be used as a tool to help us make disciples in the church.
  • Music is the most powerful discipleship tool God has given us.
  • In many churches, worship ministry is more performance-based than discipleship-based.

The four topics we cover related to worship as discipleship are:

  • The Biblical Model of Discipleship
  • The Bible without the Psalms
  • Music and Memory
  • Concentric Circles of DiscipleMaking in Worship Ministry

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Song of Moses - Aaron Keyes
  • Music and Memory
  • Worship Life with Mike Harland

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Podcast Episode #240

Discussions on pastors and weddings as well as what to watch for, what to have prepared, and what to avoid.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you're in the South and getting married on a Fall Saturday, prepare for possible low attendance.
  • You really don't know your spouse until you're married and living with one another every day.
  • Premarital counseling is a great way to use older couples as mentors in your church.
  • From my perspective, me doing a wedding is an endorsement of the marriage.
  • Weddings are theological events.
  • You need to know a couple's expectations of you as their wedding officiant.
  • I don't recommend pastors setting a specific wedding fee.
  • I don't think couple realize how many hours go into a wedding from the minister's point of view.

The nine key issues regarding wedding that we cover are:

  • Your personal beliefs.
  • Make counseling a requirement.
  • Get to know the couple.
  • Share Christ with them.
  • Understand the expectations for attendance.
  • The issues of the financial charge.
  • Make the ceremony personal.
  • Work with the wedding coordinator.
  • Know your limitations.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • A Letter I Gave to Couples Who Wanted Me to Perform Their Wedding Ceremony
  • Fifteen Crazy Things That Happened at Weddings

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Podcast Episode #239

We cover a recent blogpost on warning signs for dying churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • These are signs of churches that are not just unhealthy but that are dying.
  • If a church does not have strong theological roots, it's not really a church—it's a civic club.
  • Unfortunately, good pastors and staff from all over are emotionally and verbally beaten up by church members.
  • Criticism is the great distraction to the Great Commission.
  • Most evangelistic churches in the past were program-based. The programs have since stopped.
  • If something does not change, we could see nearly 100,000 close in the next 10 years.
  • Is your church getting close to any of these markers of dying churches?

The five types of dying churches we cover today are:

  • Those with shallow roots.
  • Those that are self-entitled.
  • Those that are negatively critical.
  • Those that are ignorantly idolatrous.
  • Those that are evangelistically anemic.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Who Moved My Pulpit?
  • Why Conservative Churches Are Growing
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #238

Discuss the characteristics of generous churches and how to tell if your church is a generous one or not.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Weekly per capita giving is one of the best numbers to use to measure financial health of a church.
  • The average weekly per capita giving in the U.S. is $30.
  • There are certain types of financial campaigns that are more likely to get people involved.
  • Churches that have foundation funds tend to be the least generous.
  • It's good to know if your church is financially dependent on a few giving units or if the giving is spread throughout the church.
  • We should give cheerfully, not reluctantly.

The six characteristics of a generous church are:

  • Weekly per capita giving.
  • Trends in budget giving.
  • Responsiveness to special offerings
  • Giving relative to the socioeconomics of the community.
  • Not overly dependent on one or a few giving units.
  • A biblical understanding of stewardship.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Podcast Episode #237

William Vanderbloemen joins us to talk about the top trends and biggest mistakes he and his company are seeing in pastor searches. Stick around for the end and hear William's answer to the question "Should a pastor send an unsolicited resume to a church?"

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Why does the business world have a better plan for succession than the church?
  • It's easier to find a job when you still have a job.
  • The biggest mistake pastors make in the search process is giving up too early.
  • The biggest mistake churches make in looking for a new pastor is having the wrong people on the search committee.
  • Including negativity when trying to reach a positive never works.
  • There's a huge fear of the unknown that sometimes keeps pastor search committees from making good decisions.
  • Pride and fear are the greatest stumbling blocks to a pastor search committee.
  • The greater part of instruction is being reminded of that which you already know.

About William Vanderbloemen
William has been able to combine over 15 years of ministry experience as a Senior Pastor with the best practices of Executive Search to provide churches with a unique offering: a deep understanding of local church work with the very best knowledge and practices of professional executive search.

Prior to executive search, William led growth and innovation in churches in North Carolina, Alabama, and Houston. During his time in Alabama, William had the chance to help rebuild and relocate an ailing congregation, and lead them to new levels of growth. At 31, he was elected Senior Pastor for the First Presbyterian Church of Houston, a church of about 5,000 adults and 1,500 children strong. It is Houston’s oldest congregation.

William also has experience as a Manager in Human Resources in a Fortune 200 company, where he focused on integration of corporate culture and succession planning.

All of these experiences have come together with his pastoral work to form a unique gift for helping churches and ministries connect with the right key people.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Podcast Episode #236

Discuss an article by Art Rainer on how to make a poor first impression and apply it to churches. Impassioned discussions on proper handshake etiquette and hugs are also included.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church members are often friendly...to the people they already know.
  • Don't wait for a guest to ask a question. If you see they need help, help them.
  • People want to know you are interested in them when they visit your church.
  • Relationships are the #1 thing that brings people to a church, keeps them, and gets them involved.
  • When you meet a new guest at church, it is a time to listen to them, not debate with them.
  • Not everyone is a hugger.

The nine ways churches can make a terrible first impression are:

  • Wait for them to approach you.
  • Make your handshake at weak as possible (or as strong as possible).
  • Avoid eye contact. Instead, look at their eyes.
  • Don’t use the other person’s name.
  • Talk about your successes a lot.
  • Act bored when they talk.
  • Whenever possible, vehemently disagree with them.
  • Don’t crack a smile.
  • Don’t say goodbye.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • Nine Ways to Make a Terrible First Impression by Art Rainer
  • Secret Guest Survey

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Podcast Episode #235

Discussion about challenges that are related to following a long-term pastor. We see this often in other walks of life such as sports and coaching changes. So we shouldn't be too surprised that it is an issue in the church as well.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • As a general rule, a long-term pastor who leaves a church needs to stay away and give the new pastor time to grow into the role.
  • Funerals and weddings are indicators of who you want closest to you when it comes to clergy.
  • It takes about five to seven years after a long term pastor leaves for the new pastor to be seen as the pastor.
  • If a pastor has been at a church longer than seven years, the chances of the successor having a short term pastorate are high.
  • I would never go to a new church as pastor without talking with the previous pastor first.

Eight challenges to consider when following a long-term pastor are:

  • Will the previous pastor stay at the church and community?
  • Being compared to the previous pastor.
  • When the previous pastor is called on to do weddings and funerals.
  • Five years to forget.
  • Often the successor is the interim.
  • The search committee typically does not understand the dynamics.
  • Have a heart-to-heart conversations with the previous pastor.
  • Honor the previous pastor.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Leadership and the Local Church with John C. Maxwell
  • Fifteen Crazy Things That Happened at Weddings
  • Fifteen Crazy Things That Happened at Funerals
  • Search by William Vanderbloemen

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Podcast Episode #234

Discussion about issues related to the recent transgender bathroom controversy.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One of the worst things you can do is to avoid or ignore difficult moral issues in your preaching.
  • Sexuality and gender identity are biblical issues we must address in the church.
  • We must teach on difficult moral issues with biblical clarity.
  • If you haven't gotten question on this topic from your church members yet, you will.
  • Don't make unnecessary enemies and lose your ability to speak truth into the lives of others.
  • This is not an issue that is going away. It's only picking up momentum in our culture.
  • Stay true to the Bible—recognize sin as sin, but love people as well.

The five guiding principles we cover for dealing with gender identity issues are:

  • Don’t ignore the issue.
  • Teach with clarity, not nuance.
  • Display a genuine concern for people who identify as transgender.
  • Give practical advice.
  • Don’t make unnecessary enemies.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • What Pastors Can Do about the Gender Neutral Bathroom Controversy

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Podcast Episode #233

We welcome back Mike Harland to discuss church worship preferences and arguing over doubtful issues (Romans 14).

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The subject of worship runs through the entire Bible. Who we worship and serve is of utmost importance.
  • Style of music is generally the most frequently debated worship issue in the church.
  • The tunes to a lot of our great hymns were originally for bar songs.
  • Don't argue about doubtful issues—pursue unity and love.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • LifeWay Worship
  • Worship Life with Mike Harland
  • Search

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Podcast Episode #232

We cover seven demographics for pastors and church leaders to know about their community. And surprisingly, there are also riveting discussions about table tennis and Nashville geography included in this episode.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Sometimes we have ministries that don't actually meet the needs of the community because those ministries are what we've always done.
  • Consider using pin maps to map out where members and guests are coming from in the community.
  • Socioeconomic issues in the community can greatly impact giving in the local church.
  • What would our churches look like if ministries were based on current needs of the community rather than tradition?

The seven community demographics pastors should know are:

  • Population trends.
  • Family composition.
  • Ethnic and racial composition.
  • Natural demographic boundaries.
  • Church attendance pin map.
  • Household income.
  • Key psychographic data.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • PerceptGroup.com
  • Preaching and Preachers

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Podcast Episode #231

Discuss a recent post on church outreach and how it has changed over the past few decades.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We still need personal contact with non-members for evangelistic reasons.
  • The first place people come into contact with your church is likely no longer the worship service but the church website.
  • As much as things change, one thing remains the same—the gospel still works.
  • When it comes to evangelism, do something.
  • Most of the time, multi-site and multi-venue are done to intentionally reach new people, not accommodate existing members.
  • Growing churches have shifted from a "you come" posture to a "we go" one.

The seven shifts we are seeing in church outreach are:

  • From in-home visitation to lunch or coffee shop visits.
  • From newspaper ads to Facebook ads.
  • From worship services to the church website as the front door.
  • From complex gospel presentations to simple gospel presentations.
  • From multi-service to multi-venue and multi-site.
  • From attractional to going.
  • From national and international giving to contextual giving.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • For the Church in St. Louis
  • FTC.co
  • LifeWay Breakfast in St. Louis

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Podcast Episode #230

We discuss five areas where change often fails and discuss everything related to the new book, Who Moved my Pulpit?

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Prayer should be the foundation of everything we do in the church.
  • A change leader needs to be in prayer and needs to enlist others to pray as well.
  • Prayer is not a perfunctory step in leadership.
  • More leaders pray well about change than communicate well about change.
  • You cannot over-communicate in the church.
  • You can't just communicate what needs to be changed, but why and when as well.
  • Churches will either lead change or be changed.

The five reasons change leadership often fails are:

  • Not praying
  • Not assessing unintended consequences
  • Not communicating
  • Not dealing with people issues
  • Not modeling positive leadership

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Resources

  • Who Moved My Pulpit?
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Change Leadership Kit

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Podcast Episode #229

Discussion about recent post on relational IQ and leadership and the importance of relational skills to effectiveness in ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Relational IQ begins with a foundation of a vibrant prayer life.
  • If you have a healthy relationship with God, you'll likely have a healthy relationship with others.
  • There's nothing wrong with talking about yourself, as long as it's not to the exclusion of everything else.
  • Relationships are commanded by Scripture.
  • A healthy sense of humor is one where you are able to laugh at itself.
  • The first reaction we should have to criticism or anything negative should not be defensiveness.
  • Just like you can always learn more cognitively, you can always learn more relationally.

The seven characteristics of relationally intelligent leaders are:

  • They have a vibrant prayer life.
  • They ask about others.
  • They rarely speak about themselves.
  • They are intentional about relationships.
  • They have a healthy sense of humor.
  • They are not usually defensive.
  • They constantly seek input.

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • For the Church in St. Louis
  • FTC.co
  • The Levity Effect
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #228

Discussion about few causes of negativity in the church and how pastors can help deal with negativity and even stop it from happening on the front end.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Every church will go through a challenge or lull. The question is "how long will you stay in it?"
  • Any time there is negativity, there is the possibility of it snowballing.
  • To fix an issue without a needed apology is not fixing an issue at all.
  • Be careful about having a perpetual naysayer in an outwardly-focused ministry.
  • Those who are rowing the boat are less likely to be the ones rocking the boat.
  • Transparency and truthfulness from church leadership are absolutely necessary for a healthy church culture.
  • Some of the most significant failures take place because people are unwilling to face the facts.
  • Even in the greatest negativity of the Old Testament, it's still pointing to the greatest hope to come: the incarnate Christ.

The seven ways to address negativity in the church are:

  • Apologize.

  • Turn more outwardly focused.

  • Get the naysayers involved.

  • Be transparent and truthful.

  • Bring together a coalitions.

  • Willingness to face the brutal facts.

  • Preach, teach, and speak about biblical hope.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Resources

  • Team of Rivals
  • Built to Last
  • Good to Great
  • Crash Course
  • For the Church at the SBC in St. Louis

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Podcast Episode #227

We update listeners on 10 current reasons that pastors are leaving the ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Don't go into ministry unless you are called.
  • I wonder how many pastors' dreams have died, and they are now struggling to move forward.
  • More pastors are forced/asked to resign than those who are outright fired.
  • Pastoral care can be taught in seminary, but you'll never be prepared for all that may come your way as a pastor.
  • The only reason you should be in ministry is if you have a sense of call.
  • Your call to ministry not only calls you but sustains you as well.
  • Don't mistake traditions in the church for stability.
  • Don't start a church as an escape from problems. Start a church to reach a community.

The 10 reasons we are seeing pastors leave the church are:

  • Worn out from conflict.

  • Dreams that have died.

  • Forced resignations.

  • Overwhelmed with responsibilities.

  • Don't understand how to do some aspects of ministry.

  • Realized they didn't have a call.

  • Overwhelmed with cultural changes.

  • Can't keep up with changes.

  • Desire to start a church.

  • Desire to go into marketplace ministry.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Is God Calling Me?
  • Who Moved My Pulpit?

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Podcast Episode #226

We welcome Mike Harland back to the podcast to discuss a trend we've noted before—the disappearance of choirs in the church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The church choir as we have known it historically is disappearing.
  • Church choirs are doing less presentational music and more congregational leadership signing.
  • The line between choir and praise team has blurred in many churches.
  • The choir ministry should be a disciple-making ministry, not a performance ministry.
  • Many churches don’t have choirs because they don’t have someone to lead the choir.
  • In the early stages of a church’s life, the entire congregation is the choir.
  • The largest choir in every church is the congregation.

The four areas Mike addresses are:

  • What is a "choir?" and are we sure they are disappearing? (Role and function)
  • Where did choirs come from? (Biblical and historical view of choirs)
  • Strategy or necessity? (The leadership gap)
  • The largest choir of every church. (Congregational singing)

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Resources

  • Why Congregational Singing Is Waning
  • LifeWay Worship
  • For the Church in St. Louis at the SBC Annual Meeting

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Podcast Episode #225

We discuss a post by Sam Rainer on what you inherit when you become a pastor at a new church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Many new pastors move too quickly because they don't have buy-in from the existing members.
  • One of the first things to do as a new pastor in a church is to learn the people.
  • Most of the time, you inherit a staff as a new pastor and that can be a difficult transition early on.
  • Everything changes when a new pastor comes to a church except the expectations of the people.
  • In your first year, listen to stories of those in the church. They'll tell you expectations the members have.
  • Change agents do a lot of listening.

The six things you inherit as a new pastor are:

  • You inherit people.
  • You inherit a culture.
  • You inherit a staff.
  • You inherit a schedule.
  • You inherit expectations.
  • You inherit traditions.

Episode Sponsors
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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • For the Church in St. Louis at the SBC Annual Meeting
  • What Is the Best Time for a Worship Service?

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Podcast Episode #224

We take a look at a few areas in which Millennial pastors are seeking help. We hear from pastors of all ages, but Millennial pastors seem to be dealing more with these six common issues that any others.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Millennial pastors have a desire to be mentored.
  • Millennials will inevitably have the responsibility of supervising with staff who are older. Many are unprepared.
  • You really don't know someone in a work environment until you actually work with them.
  • One area of church finance that can be confusing is the rules on designated funds.
  • I love the Millennials' emphasis on family.
  • Most Millennials don't want to lead the family life that many of their boomer parents displayed.
  • Your ministry begins with your family. You have a ministry and the first line of that ministry is your family.

The six areas where Millennial pastors seek help most frequently are:

  • Feedback on sermons
  • Dealing with staff issues
  • Understanding church finances
  • Time management
  • Life and family balance
  • Practical ministry

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • ArtRainer.com
  • The Millennials

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Podcast Episode #223

We discuss a recent post on ten statements pastors ofter hear which make them cringe.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • These statements should make you want to pray more for your pastor.
  • There is really no reason to keep criticism in anonymity in the church.
  • The seven deadly words in a church: "We've never done it that way before."
  • Use the history of the church as an example of change in the past to make change in the present for the future.
  • Giving "through the church" instead of "to the church" conveys a greater sense of mission for tithes and offerings.
  • There is a false assumption in many churches that the pastor or staff do not have a lot of work to do.

The ten cringeworthy statements we discuss are:

  • “I love you pastor, but...”
  • “Why didn’t you visit her?”
  • “Gotta minute?”
  • “Have you heard this podcast pastor?”
  • “Pastor, people are saying...”
  • “We’ve never done it that way before.”
  • “I do pay your salary, you know.”
  • “I wish she had heard that sermon.”
  • “I wish I worked just a few hours a week like you.”
  • “Your kids need to behave like pastor’s kids should behave.”

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Ten Sentences That Make Pastors Cringe
  • Seven Reasons Your Pastor Is More Than a Podcast
  • One Sentence That Pastors and Church Staff Hate to Hear

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Podcast Episode #222

A descriptive look at six church practices that are fading in many North American churches. These fading practices cross almost all theological and denominational lines.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Few churches do Sunday evening worship well. Most don't do them well or don't do them at all.
  • So many churches did away with programmatic evangelism, but never replaced it with any other evangelistic efforts.
  • The majority of churches in North America do not have anything intentional in place for local evangelism.
  • If people are joining a church, there's a natural assumption that it's evangelistic. But most times, it's not.
  • Mark Dever and the IX Marks group have helped bring the importance of regenerate church membership to the forefront.
  • The Millennials are moving the church to an outward focus more than any other factor.

The six church practices that are fading are:

  • Sunday evening worship
  • Programmatic evangelism
  • In-home visitation
  • Easy membership
  • Inwardly busy church
  • Seasonal revivals

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Resources

  • The Decline of Sunday Evening Services
  • Whatever Happened to Sunday Evening Services?
  • What Is a Healthy Church?
  • What Is a Healthy Church Member?
  • Nine Marks of a Healthy Church
  • Church Memberers...

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Podcast Episode #221

Discuss about the origins of Sunday morning worship service times as well as the most common times and some not-so-common worship times.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Your worship service start times will be influenced by capacity, culture, and convenience.
  • Why not be convenient with the worship service start time at your church?
  • 11:00 AM is typically the latest start time you will see for churches with one service.
  • Often worship times are dictated by parking capacity and not worship center capacity.
  • You might be able to reach an underserved segment of your community with a non-Sunday morning worship time.
  • 8:00 AM on Sunday morning is fast becoming the most preferred worship time for Boomers.
  • It's ironic that we consider 8:00 AM an early time for worship—but not for work.

The six considerations we discuss regarding worship times are:

  • 10:00 AM Sunday: the most popular time.
  • 11:00 AM Sunday: the most traditional time.
  • A time that is at the top or bottom of the hour.
  • A time to reach those who can't come on Sunday morning.
  • 8:00 AM Sunday: the Boomer time.
  • A memorable time, like 11:11 AM.

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Kairos at Brentwood Baptist

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Podcast Episode #220

We discuss a recent post on why announcements can cause so many problems in local churches. From announcements being forgotten to members getting upset their announcement was short or not done by the right person, announcements often cause an undue amount of conflict in a church. So we discuss the problem and give some ways to solve it as well.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church announcements can affect the gospel centrality of your church because they can take away from time devoted to preaching the Word.
  • Visual aids can help announcements be remembered but can also be distracting.
  • No matter what your prescribed time is for announcements, you will likely always go over that time limit.
  • Announcements can totally interrupt the flow of worship.
  • People are interested in church announcements that apply to them. If it's not for them, they often tune out.
  • You have to have a system of deciding which announcements get placed where.
  • Emphasize things of importance to the entire church when making announcements.

The five ways announcements can cause problems are:

  • Someone’s announcement is left out.
  • Someone’s announcement gets more emphasis than others.
  • The announcements take too long.
  • The announcements interrupt the flow of worship.
  • Most people forget announcements.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • 10 Ways to Improve Announcements in Your Church
  • How to Make Announcements in Worship Services
  • Nine Observations about Announcements in Worship Services
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Podcast Episode #219

Discussion about seven relevant trends that churches are facing when it comes to facilities. From the shift to smaller gathering spaces to what types of spaces are being built, facility trends are changing where and how local churches gather.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches will continue to close as the Builder Generation continues to die.
  • Millennials have swung the pendulum away from big box churches to more intimate settings.
  • Church facilities are some of the most underutilized facilities we have.
  • Church facilities can be used more effectively if the community is a part of the usage.
  • Small groups attendance is significantly greater when held on campus than when held in homes.
  • To be Christian is to no longer be favored in most communities.
  • When a church goes into a community, the entire quality of life in the area goes up.

The seven facility trends we discuss for the future of American churches are:

  • More acquisitions and mergers
  • Even smaller worship centers
  • More creative types of facilities
  • Seven-days-a-week usage
  • Community-focused
  • More on-campus small groups
  • More governmental opposition

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • For the Church Luncheon at the SBC Annual Meeting
  • Sojourn Community Church
  • Lyle Schaller
  • The Seven-Day-A-Week Church

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Podcast Episode #218

A recap about a recent post on the outreach methods churches used to promote their Easter services. While we cover what worked, we also take a look at what didn't work and why some of these ideas seemed to fall short.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Personal invites are still the best way to get people to come to your church.
  • Don't start anything in your church without first praying about it.
  • Prayer should be integral to everything you do as a church.
  • A lot of churches do nothing extra for Easter because they think people will naturally come anyway.
  • Personal conversations are still the most effective way to invite people to attend your church worship service.
  • Online promotion is the most effective way for churches to spend dollars earmarked for marketing.
  • If your church goes door-to-door to invite people, take the time to talk to people.
  • When you strategically plan your outreach, you see greater participation and more opportunities for success.
  • Strategic planning is a stewardship of time.

The six things that seemed to work for churches were:

  • Personal Invites.
  • Facebook Promotion.
  • Coordinated Graphics.
  • Door-to-door Invites.
  • Intentional, Strategic Planning.
  • Prayer.

The four things that didn't work were:

  • Door-to-door Drop-offs.
  • Extra Signage.
  • Doing Nothing.
  • Not Planning.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu/Rainer and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Search by William Vanderbloemen
  • Invite Your One
  • The Next Future Church Staff Position: Pastor of Community Evangelism

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Podcast Episode #217

Discussion about why we are optimistic about the state of the church in North America. The sky is not falling, and here are seven particular reasons why that is the case. And we even snuck an Al Gore reference into today's episode.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The influx of church planters has been a good thing for the state of the church in North America.
  • Church splits are no longer the most common way new churches start, and that's a good thing.
  • Church planters are starting more churches with evangelistic DNA than ever before.
  • New churches have the opportunity to have a more intentional evangelistic DNA than established churches.
  • Millennials are pushing churches toward more of a community emphasis.
  • One of the main reasons the American church has been unhealthy over the past few decades is because of its inward focus.
  • It's hard to say a church is about others when it spends all of the church's money on the members.

The seven reasons for optimism in American churches we discuss are:

  • New churches replacing dying churches
  • New churches truly becoming evangelistic
  • Balance of practical and classical training for pastors and staff
  • Better use of facilities
  • Millennials moving church members to the community
  • Re-examination of church budgets
  • Church revitalization

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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Podcast Episode #216

We lament the decline of evangelism in many local churches and discuss ways to assess whether or not your church is effective when it comes to evangelism. Also, I highlight a humiliating defeat in sports to my grandson.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • I would rather a church have a programmatic evangelism emphasis than none at all.
  • Pastors, keep track of the annual number of faith conversions in your church.
  • One of the great travesties in many churches today is a dichotomy between evangelism and discipleship.
  • The number one correlation of evangelistic churches is evangelistic pastors.
  • A church that has an evangelistic reputation is one that has a good reputation.
  • Healthy, evangelistic churches are typically known in the community for caring for the community.
  • 95% of the non-Christian, unchurched community are receptive to faith conversations.
  • If your church is not seeing a lot of conversions from adults, it's likely because your adults aren't sharing their faith.

The six points we discuss about evangelistic effectiveness of churches are:

  • Keep track of total annual conversions.
  • Look at trends of those annual conversions.
  • Calculate the church's conversion ratio: Average attendance / total annual conversions (under 20:1 is good).
  • Is the pastor personally evangelistic?
  • Does the church have an evangelistic reputation in the community?
  • Does incarnational ministry become transformational ministry?

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Podcast Episode #215

Mike Harland joins us to discuss four main reasons that congregational singing is waining as well as three ways you can reverse this trend in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In many churches, the hymnal is no longer the primary source of songs for the church.
  • We often move on from one song to the next before the congregation really knows a song well enough to sing it.
  • One of the main reasons congregational singing is waning is simply because people don't know the songs.
  • In many churches, we've created an atmosphere that everything about the room says you're here to watch, not worship.
  • If you set up your facility to feel like a theater, don't be surprised when your church members act like a theater audience.
  • When worship leaders are too artistic, the congregation tends to stop singing and watch.
  • Pick a handful of songs that you come back to over and over so that your people know them well.
  • More and more people are realizing we need to do a better job of raising up the next generation of worship leaders.

The four reasons we discuss related to the waning of congregational singing are:

  • New Song Velocity — “I don't know that song."
  • The Atmosphere of Observation — "You don't want me to sing."
  • The Rise of the Worship Artist —“I can't sing that song."
  • The Misuse of Technology — "I can't hear anyone else."

Three things churches can do right now to help their members engage in singing:

  • Turn the lights up
  • Sing songs the church knows
  • Turn the sound down and vary the accompaniment

About Mike Harland

Mike Harland grew up in Mississippi, graduated from Delta State University and New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, and has led churches in worship leadership roles for most of his life. Since 2005, Mike has served as the Director of LifeWay Worship, the music arm of LifeWay Christian Resources. He is a published author and songwriter who sings and speaks nationally and internationally. Mike and his wife Teresa serve in the children’s, discipleship, and worship ministries of Brentwood Baptist Church and live in Franklin, Tennessee. They have three grown children – Lee, Elizabeth, and John.

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Podcast Episode #214

Discussion about a recent post on pastors and social media. Too often, unnecessary problems are caused because of what's posted to social media. These 10 commandments won't fully eliminate those problems, but they will reduce them greatly.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • You represent Christ in all you do. Do you represent him well or poorly?
  • Regardless of any disclaimer you may put on your social media account, your views do reflect on your employer.
  • Some of the most heated online arguments are over things that those who arguing can't even control.
  • Even if you delete a tweet or blog post, it's highly likely that somebody, somewhere still has a screenshot.
  • Often times we are so busy doing good things that we neglect great things.
  • When it comes to politics, people have a long memory about what others have said online.

The 10 social media commandments of pastors and politics we discuss are:

  • You shall remember you are an ambassador for Christ.
  • You shall remember you are your church to many people.
  • You shall not be a stumbling block to unbelievers.
  • You shall refrain from posting when your emotions are high.
  • You shall remember that others are often posting in the throes of their own anger and emotions.
  • You shall remember your words are permanent.
  • You shall understand some members of your congregation likely have a different view than you.
  • You shall not be a distraction to the gospel.
  • You shall be aware of the long political memory many people have.
  • You shall be aware that your political opinions may cause disunity with other churches in the community.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Podcast Episode #213

We discuss a recent project by Rich Birch. He donated $10 online to 10 different churches to see what the results of giving online would be from some of the leading churches in the US. He published his results in a free PDF that's available to download. So today we welcome Rich to the podcast to discuss those results and other aspects of online giving including how smaller churches can use this tool.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Giving patterns in both churches and non-profits are changing.
  • If your church has online giving, make it easily visible on the homepage of your church's website.
  • A slow, lengthy process for online giving will discourage and frustrate those trying to give.
  • More people are starting to use recurring giving when they choose to give to their church online.
  • When churches set up online giving, it must be simple and strategic.
  • Rather than just providing a receipt, consider a more pastoral and personal response to those who give online.
  • Online giving platforms are another way to reinforce the vision of your church.

About Rich Birch
Rich has been involved in church leadership for more than 15 years. He currently serves as a part of a four member Lead Team at Liquid Church in the Manhattan facing communities of New Jersey. Rich oversees communications, weekend service programming, campus expansion and special projects at Liquid Church. A featured speaker at conferences like Orange and WFX, Rich is married to Christine and lives in Scotch Plains, NJ, with their two kids and one dog.

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Podcast Episode #212

We discuss a post from Chuck Lawless on gossip in the church and four ways to combat it in the church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Gossip is a sly and sneaky sin that can destroy the unity of a church.
  • Gossip points to self importance; ministry and service point to the importance of others.
  • There is never a time when gossip helps or builds up.
  • Once gossip is out about someone, it's hard to correct it if it's false.
  • Gossip not only hurts the reputation of the subject, but of those who pass it on as well.
  • If someone gossips about someone to you, they'd likely gossip about you to someone else.
  • Gossip is a very evil and destructive force within the church.
  • Churches should have an environment of trust that does not allow for gossip.
  • Every church covenant should address gossip.

The nine ways gossip destroys a church are:

  • It’s evil.
  • It’s idolatrous.
  • It’s self-centered.
  • It’s divisive.
  • It’s often deceptive.
  • It harms reputations.
  • It destroys trust.
  • It indicates hypocrisy in the church.
  • It risks God’s judgment.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Podcast Episode #211

We discuss a topic we get questions on quite often: time management. The biggest key to time management is having a calendar and sticking with it, but in ministry, that can be difficult. So we highlight that and how to handle your time when ministry gets off schedule.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It's easy to get busy in ministry and not do the right things.
  • In most parts of the country, there is a college nearby where you can find someone who would intern at your church.
  • You need to plan hospital visits to maximize effectiveness and minimize time spent.
  • Instead of doing tasks you like first, do those that are critical first.
  • Put everything on your calendar, and add time to it if possible to account for contingencies.
  • Life happens, so sometimes a calendar gets blown up.
  • Counseling is the one area that can eat up time more than any other aspect of ministry.

The 12 keys to making time when you have none are:

  • Don’t be a perfectionist
  • Learn what equipping really means
  • Identify potential interns
  • Plan ministry visits strategically
  • Stay within your ministry guardrails
  • Prioritize your work (“gotta do’s” go first)
  • Understand the difference in “want to do” and “have to do”
  • Learn the secret of batching
  • Calendar project preparation and contingencies
  • Stick to your schedule
  • Be cautious of scope creep (counseling)
  • Do not compromise personal devotion and family time

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Podcast Episode #210

We discuss a recent post on guest follow-up and offer some tips on how to improve it in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One of the questions I get all the time is "How do we get guests to return to our church?"
  • Door-to-door visitation still works in some churches and communities, but not many.
  • Most churches put a lot more effort into events at the church facility than they do for being in the community.
  • In most churches a 20% return rate for guests should be the benchmark.
  • Most church members don't know what a church does for follow-up because the staff do it all.
  • Some type of follow-up with church guests should happen within 24 hours of a visit.
  • Let the context of your community dictate how you do followup after an initial contact.
  • Every church should have a plan for how to follow-up with guests.

The six reasons churches struggle with follow-up are:

  • The church has no plan in place for follow-up.
  • Follow-up takes place outside the walls, a place of discomfort for many church members.
  • Follow-up ministry is not as splashy as other ministries.
  • Follow-up ministry can become discouraging.
  • Follow-up ministry is not emphasized or recognized by leadership.
  • Follow-up ministry is not even considered a ministry in many churches.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Podcast Episode #209

Discuss a recent post on the four highest worship attendance days of the year. We also discuss the best ways to use these to your advantage as a church with intentional follow-up and strategic planning.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A Christmas Eve service is the number one time to reach those who are unchurched.
  • Those who are unchurched and lost don’t really consider Easter as a day for church.
  • Easter is a great time to promote groups because those who usually attend are nominal attenders.
  • You will have more non-churched guests for a Christmas Ever service than any other time of the year.
  • You have got to be strategic and intentional when following up with guests.
  • Churches should be strategic about high attendance days and not let these come and go without a plan.

The four high attendance days we cover are:

  • Easter
  • Christmas Eve
  • Mother's Day
  • Contextual Day

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Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • RevitalizedChurches.com

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Podcast Episode #208

We cover a pair of recent posts on how your church can effectively use Facebook and Twitter.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Many times pastors do not realize how critical daily Bible reading is to the overall discipleship of the church.
  • The ministry benefits of blogging as a church staff member far outweigh the time and effort it takes to blog.
  • The more your church is known in your community, the more opportunity you will have to impact the community for Christ.
  • Your posts on Facebook and Twitter should be targeted to your audience on each specific network.
  • Post engaging content on social media that people will want to share.
  • If a parent requests a picture of their child to be removed from social media, take it down. Don’t make it an issue.
  • Not every church event needs a Facebook event set up for it.
  • Encourage your members to share or retweet church social media posts—but post content worth sharing.
  • If your church is not using Facebook and Twitter, you’re missing a huge opportunity to reach people.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Five Ways Successful People Tackle Monday Morning
  • The Shape of Faith to Come
  • ifttt.com
  • Four Critical Steps to Get Guests into the Side Door of the Church
  • For The Church - St. Louis

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Podcast Episode #207

Discussion about the issues surrounding a church feeling too empty or too full and how to combat those issues.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Your church worship facility will feel full to attendees when it’s above 80% capacity.
  • From a conceptual point of view, it’s easier to deal with the "too full" problem than the "too empty" problem.
  • Churches that are often most effective with reaching new people with the gospel are new churches or new multi-site venues.
  • Alleviating a "too full" feeling in a worship service can often result in a "too empty" problem.
  • Sometimes pews become a problem when a church service is too empty because they can’t be moved.
  • Church mergers are becoming a greater option for churches that are shrinking.
  • In a church merger, leadership and DNA needs to come from the healthy church, not the dying one.

The ways we discuss solving the too full and too empty problems are:

  • Solving the Too Full Problem

  • Multi-service

  • Multi-venue
  • Multi-site
  • Plant a new church

  • Solving the Too Empty Problem

  • Use false walls or portable walls

  • Set up fewer seats
  • Move to another venue
  • Consider a building program
  • Possible church mergers

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Cosco Church Design

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Podcast Episode #206

We discuss a recent post on pastor and staff benefits. These points come from Richard Hammar's 2016-2017 Compensation Handbook for Church Staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Too many pastors are retiring and have little to no retirement savings.
  • I'm very concerned about many of our pastors who are in poverty when they retire.
  • If you have an automobile allowance for your pastor or staff, that needs to be a reimbursement instead.
  • Pastors put more miles on their car than 80% of other vocations.
  • If your church doesn't provide auto reimbursement, you're essentially reducing the salary of the pastor and staff.
  • Life and disability insurance are very low cost benefits churches should look to provide to staff.

The seven concerns we share about pastoral staff benefits are:

  • Fewer than half of solo pastors receive any health insurance benefits.
  • Almost three-fourths of full-time worship/music leaders receive health insurance benefits.
  • Many full-time church staff receive no retirement benefits.
  • Almost all full-time staff get paid vacations.
  • Only six in ten full-time pastors and staff get any type of automobile reimbursement.
  • Very few full-time ministry staff receive either life insurance or disability insurance.
  • The parsonage as a benefit has all but disappeared.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • Guidestone
  • ArtRainer.com
  • For The Church - St. Louis

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Podcast Episode #205

A look at how churches can better steward their facilities and how to deal with opposition to facility usage.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • College football stadiums are possibly the only large facilities used less often than most church worship centers.
  • Ministry is about using resources to reach people for Christ. It's not about hoarding resources.
  • If your church lets outside groups use its facility, a clear rental policy needs to be in place.
  • We've been doing the same things for so long that we rarely stop and ask "is this the best use of our space?"
  • A facility usage audit is often critical to growing your small groups on campus.
  • The type of seating you place in your worship center determines what else can be done in that room.
  • Stage size is something to consider when making any changes to seating or design of a worship center.
  • Church facilities are one of the largest expenses in a church budget. We should steward those expenses well.

The eight ways your church can use your church facilities more effectively are:

  • Determine your philosophy of sacred space
  • Partner with other organizations
  • Create a church within a church
  • Have a clear rental policy
  • Do a facility audit (including space audit)
  • Think creatively about space
  • Think wisely when purchasing new fixtures and seating.
  • Check your insurance policy for any specific exclusions

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources Mentioned in Today's Podcast

  • Brentwood Baptist Deaf Church

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Podcast Episode #204

We discuss a recent post on frustrations that pastors often face and how to overcome many of them.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • These are the types of things that happen to pastors every week.
  • God has put us in local churches to be actively involved.
  • Too many church members want to "keep the pastor humble" by paying them little.
  • There are relatively few pastors who have adequate business training.
  • Sermon prep can be difficult in a church office. But if a pastor studies elsewhere, complaints come in about not being in the office.
  • When members leave a church, pastors often take it personally.
  • Pastoral concerns over church budgets are very real and very pressure-packed.

The 10 frustrations pastors often face that we cover are:

  • Church members who treat church attendance as a low priority.
  • Criticisms over minutia.
  • Concern over financial wellbeing of family.
  • Expectations to understand the business and leadership side of church life.
  • Complaints to or about family members.
  • Inadequate uninterrupted sermon prep time.
  • Losing church members.
  • Concerns over church budget.
  • Declining or plateaued church.
  • Designated giving toward personal preferences.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Am a Church Member Reaches One Million Units Sold
  • Five Things You Should Know about Pastors’ Salaries
  • The Pastor's Salary
  • ArtRainer.

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Podcast Episode #203

We are taking questions from listeners on a wide range of topics from communicating in conflict and staff reviews, to spiritual gifts and missionary support. Thanks again to all who submit questions. If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here on Church Answers.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When it comes to resolving conflict in the church, communicate formally and personally—not through email or a text.
  • If you have an ongoing interaction with your staff, staff reviews should just be a formality.
  • If it takes putting words on paper for someone to know how you’re assessing their performance, you’re not leading well.
  • I’m concerned when those doing staff reviews in the church aren’t in a position see that person work everyday.
  • When deciding on which missionaries to support directly, the first question to ask is doctrine.
  • It’s always better for a church to support missionaries who have a common vision and focus.

The questions we answer today on the podcast are:
From DOUG
Can you talk about how using email or facebook messenger or texting is not a good means of communicating with people, but discuss better ways of communicating and dealing with conflict? How can I be a better leader/pastor in this area of communication and conflict?


From STEPHEN
How can churches do more to welcome and minister to families with disabilities? What churches are doing this well?


From ED
My question is somewhat four fold from the same topic, staff reviews.
1) How often should staff reviews be done, if at all?
2) Who should conduct the reviews?
3) Should staff reviews be done formally, as in a written record, or informally, just table top conversation?
4) Should staff review be open to review or sealed with confidentiality?


From BERNARD
First of all your book I am a Church Member. The whole meaning of being a church member is to receive membership as a gift from God, and when a member SERVE. How do I know where to serve? How do I know what is needed? Some say your spiritual gifts are your direction. How do I know where my spiritual gifts are?


From TOM
I have been struggling with saying thank you for gifts and compliments. When I greet people at the back after a message, the response from the people is always "nice message pastor." I find it difficult to respond with a genuine response that does not sound sarcastic or "quirky." I have responded with "it's God Word, I am just the deliver" but it seems like the wrong response. Are there any good remarks after someone pays you a compliment or gives a gift?


From BEN
I am a part of a church leadership team that has a lot of missionaries, supported at a very small amount, with little to no partnership with any of them. The previous pastor had taken on a ton of them, and we don't really know any of them. We really feel like we want to restructure our program. How would you suggest we do that? When choosing new missionaries to support is there any specific questions you would ask?

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Podcast Episode #202

We answer the single most asked question we get: how can we grow groups in our church? Groups are vital to the evangelistic outreach and internal discipleship of a church, and it's essential that you multiply groups to grow your groups.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One of the primary purposes of a small group should be to multiply itself.
  • Childcare is typically the biggest logistic hurdle for churches with in-home small groups.
  • Most churches are not outwardly focused because their groups are inwardly focused.
  • I've never seen a church be Great Commission focused for the long term without a strong groups ministry.
  • Churches that depend on big worship events without focusing on groups have a backdoor that is wide open.
  • I see many churches who have ambitious goals with no date to meet them by. The goals are never reached.
  • Celebrating new groups builds momentum for even more new groups.

The nine steps to growing groups in your church that we cover are:

  • Share a vision for the mission of your group.
  • Build a new leadership team to facilitate the new group (and provide them with training and practice).
  • Determine the type of new group you will form.
  • Choose curriculum and/or study resources for the new group.
  • Ask someone to serve as a host and determine the logistics of the new group meeting.
  • Determine who will go with the new team.
  • Begin a countdown, and pray for the new group.
  • Celebrate!
  • Keep casting a vision for multiplication.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Resources

  • 9 Steps to Small Group Multiplication
  • GroupsMatter.com

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Podcast Episode #201

We discuss missions and how churches should be involved both local and globally. We also cover some common mistakes and misconceptions churches suffer from as they look to mobilize their people for missions.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • You should both give to and be involved in missions.
  • The answer for missions in too many churches is to pay, pray, and get out of the way.
  • Many people think only of missions overseas. The reality is that the mission field has come to us in America.
  • Many churches are giving and doing missions but are dying because they aren't reaching their local community.
  • True missions-minded churches are reaching people in both their local community and around the world.
  • Don't neglect Jerusalem for Judea, Samaria, and the ends of the earth.

The six missions mistakes and misconceptions we cover in this episode are:

  • We should take caution that our giving not replace our doing
  • The problem with Vacationaries
  • We often think of missions as only taking place overseas
  • The congregation may not understand the missions opportunities the church is supporting
  • Not all missions efforts require special training
  • We consider certain types of giving as missions giving when it’s really not

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • ChuckLawless.com

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Podcast Episode #200

We discuss a recent post on pastor and church staff compensation based on data from the 2016-2017 Compensation Handbook for Church Staff. This resource is valuable to any church and I encourage you to get a copy.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church budget size is a greater influencer on church staff compensation than church attendance size.
  • Many traditional music ministry positions are changing into roles that encompass media, music, and creative arts.
  • The cost recovery time for a pastor who gets a doctoral degree seems to be around 4-5 years.
  • I know health benefits are expensive, but I didn't expect that more than 1/3 of lead pastors aren't offered them by the church.
  • A lot of pastors are uncomfortable with taking raises if their salary is a publicly discussed item in the church.
  • In many of our churches, we do not have people monitoring compensation and benefits for pastors and staff.
  • Tenure has decreased in importance as a factor in pastor and staff compensation.
  • There appears to be a ceiling on youth pastor compensation.

The 10 fascinating compensation facts we cover in the episode are:

  • Church income is the number one indicator for compensation levels for all church staff.
  • The highest paying positions in order are pastor, executive pastor, and worship/music leader.
  • Church staff compensation varies by type of community.
  • Education is still a factor in compensation.
  • Fewer than two-thirds of lead pastors receive health insurance as a benefit.
  • One half of all pastors did not receive a raise in the past year.
  • Compensation varies little with length of tenure for all staff positions.
  • Churches in mainline denominations tend to offer higher compensation to their pastors and staff.
  • Youth pastor compensation does not change significantly from smaller to larger churches.
  • Female fulltime children/preschool ministers make 14% more than their male counterparts.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
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Podcast Episode #199

We discuss the etiquette and principles related to hosting a guest preacher or speaker at a church. Be sure to listen for the story about the boa constrictor. Needless to say, Jonathan isn't a fan of snakes.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Host churches should cover the cost of travel and meals for guest preachers.
  • Lodging for guest speakers/preachers should be generous and comfortable.
  • For a guest preacher, base the honorarium off your pastor’s salary.
  • When determining what to pay a guest speaker, take into consideration the full amount of time given up for the event.
  • A small gift for a guest speaker’s family is a great way to thank them for sharing their loved one with your church.

The six considerations that we cover for hosting and compensating a guest preacher or speaker at your church are:

  • Cover the cost of travel.

  • Reimburse for their meals.

  • Lodging should be generous and comfortable.

  • Base the honorarium off your pastor’s salary (including housing allowance) - half a percent per service.

  • Different events call for different levels of compensation.

  • Remember the speaker’s family as well.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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Resources

  • How Much Should You Pay a Guest Preacher?

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Podcast Episode #198

Will Mancini joins us to discuss his latest book, God Dreams, and talk about how church leaders can effectively cast vision.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We shouldn't relegate the idea of being visionary to "superstar" pastors and leaders.
  • Visionary leadership is accessible to all church leaders. Vision is for everyone. Vision is for every day.
  • Visionary leadership is about serving people with a simple picture of where you're going next as a church.
  • Clarity isn't everything, but it changes everything.
  • It's not about what vision you choose, but whether or not everyone is on the same page with the vision that is chosen.
  • We don't need to be afraid of having a vision for our church.

About Will Mancini
Will Mancini wants you and your ministry to experience the benefits of stunning, God-given clarity. As a pastor turned vision coach, Will has worked with an unprecedented variety of churches from growing megachurches and missional communities, to mainline revitalization and church plants. Will is the founder and team leader of Auxano and the author of two books: Church Unique and God Dreams.

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Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • GodDrea.ms
  • Auxano

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Podcast Episode #197

We cover eight simple tips your church can use to prepare for Easter in an effort to get more people to your worship service so that they may hear the message of the gospel through clearly communicated through the resurrection story.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Easter is the best time of the year to reach those who seldom attend church.
  • Easter is a time to enlist extra volunteers for several different areas of service in the church.
  • Easter can often be used as a launching point for a new service, site, or venue.
  • Easter is a prime time to connect people to small group or enroll them in a membership class.
  • Welcome cards are your only opportunity to know exactly who was new to your church.
  • Remember to update your church's website with any changes to times or schedules you may make for Easter.
  • Consider a quick audit of your church's website before Easter to ensure all information is accurate and updated.
  • Easter is the perfect opportunity for your church to try something new to reach the dechurched in your community.

The eight Easter planning tips we cover are:

  • Prepare to reach out to the dechurched
  • Enlist extra volunteers
  • Consider service or venue
  • Promote small groups
  • Take the opportunity to improve the facility
  • Reconsider welcome cards
  • Get your website ready
  • Consider Facebook ads

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
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  • The Secrets to Getting Guests to Fill Out and Return Info Cards
  • Eight Things Your Church Website Must Have

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Podcast Episode #196

Discussion about a recent blogpost that focused on the hurt ministry spouses often experience.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you look at any relationship, things get said unintentionally but they often still hurt.
  • When you come up to a ministry spouse, encourage them. Don't complain about their spouse.
  • It is unreasonable to think you are getting a 2-for-1 when you hire someone on church staff.
  • Sometimes church members just don't know how to interact with ministry spouses.
  • Going after a spouse to inflict pain on the minister is sinful and cowardly.
  • We need to stand up to bullies in the church and encourage ministers and their families.

The six most common ways ministry spouses get hurt are:

  • Complaints about their spouses.
  • High expectations about ministry involvement.
  • Complaints about the children.
  • Isolation.
  • Gossip and murmuring.
  • Going to the spouse with problems about the minister.

Episode Sponsors
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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

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Resources

  • The Pastor's Kid by Barnabas Piper
  • The Pastor’s Kid – Rainer on Leadership #062

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Podcast Episode #195

We discuss nine specific ways churches might be wasting money. As tight as finances are in many churches, these nine points of evaluation might be helpful for many churches to free up more funds for ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches often waste money by doing things the way they've always done them.
  • We often staff our churches the way it's always been instead of what's best for the church.
  • Staffing is one of the biggest expenses you have, and if you don't constantly evaluate it, you will spend money you don't have to.
  • I see any staff departure as an opportunity to evaluate if that position is needed for the future.
  • Facebook ads are one of the better uses of advertising dollars for churches—instead of media ads or billboards.
  • The arbitrary payments made to many instrumentalists often confuses pastors and church members.
  • Having policies in place for benevolence giving and accountability is a must for churches.
  • Do not expect people in the pew to be good stewards of their money if the church leaders are not stewarding church funds well.

The nine ways churches most commonly waste money are:

  • Not evaluating staff needs
  • Ineffective paid publicity
  • Arbitrarily paid instrumentalists
  • Paid child care
  • Unevaluated mission giving
  • Benevolence with no accountability
  • Underwriting trips
  • Church vehicles
  • Ineffective programs and ministries

Episode Sponsors
Midwestern Seminary, located in the heart of the Midwest, is one of the fastest growing seminaries in North America and offers a fantastic array of academic programs, including multiple online and residential options at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels. Midwestern’s new 81-hour Mdiv program, online program, and doctoral program have all been recognized as some of the most innovative and affordable in the country. There has never been a better time to begin your seminary education. Midwestern Seminary trains leaders 'For The Church.’
Visit them online at MBTS.edu and start your ministry training today.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.
Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

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  • What Does a Healthy Church Budget Look Like?

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Podcast Episode #194

We explain why mentoring is so important for your continued growth as a pastor or church leader. We also discuss some of our favorite questions and moments from my speaking engagements.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The question I get the most from pastors and church leaders is "how do I keep growing personally and professionally?"
  • The most effective church leaders are those who are being mentored.
  • The smaller you go in groups, the more you grow.
  • When you are being mentored, you are saying "I have not arrive, and I can still learn."
  • Everyone needs to be a continuous learner in some form or another.
  • Learning by mentoring is a sign of humility.

The five reasons pastors and church leaders need a mentor are:

  • A willingness to be mentored reflects an attitude of servant humility.
  • Leaders grow by learning from others.
  • Mentoring engenders some level of accountability.
  • Some of the most strategic leadership ideas come from two or more people together.
  • Mentoring offers great encouragement.

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Podcast Episode #193

We discuss a recent post on a new trend regarding pastors. Many pastors are choosing to continue to serve in secular vocations even when a church can afford to pay them for full-time work. These marketplace pastors are a growing trend worth a further look.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Marketplace pastors serve for part-time pay because they chose to, not because the church can't afford full-time compensation.
  • Marketplace pastors often have more opportunities for gospel conversations than those who are full-time pastors.
  • Pastors sometimes don't say or do things that need to be done because their salary is tied to keeping peace in the church.
  • I would say about 60% of active church members believe they are "the pastor's boss."
  • Pastors who are not completely dependent on a church financially tend to deal with critics differently.
  • Online training is the way to go for marketplace pastors.

The eight characteristics of marketplace pastors we cover today are:

  • The marketplace pastor serves in churches that could offer full-time compensation to the pastor, but they choose not to do so.
  • Marketplace pastors get their name by their desire to stay in the marketplace with one of their vocations.
  • Marketplace pastors tend to have extraordinary leadership skills.
  • These pastors have a high work capacity.
  • These pastors will have long tenures.
  • Marketplace pastors will be able to deal with critics more freely.
  • Marketplace pastors will be serving in a wide range of churches of varying sizes.
  • Marketplace pastors will get their ministry and theological training online.

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  • Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Online Education

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Podcast Episode #192

We cover six early indicators that someone might be on the verge of dropping out. These reasons are common in any size church, but many are reversible with the implementation of a monitoring system.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Simply put, church growth equals more people coming into the church than leaving the church.
  • Taking roll in small groups helps keep members accountable and to recognize when members may be having problems.
  • Each small group or class needs someone to monitor absences and follow up with those who miss.
  • Many times, family problems embarrass church members and they end up attending less frequently or drop out altogether.
  • The single most common family issue that leads to people dropping out of church is divorce.
  • Because of what it takes to keep people in the church who have had a moral failure, many pastors choose to do nothing.

The six leading indicators that someone is about to drop out of church are:

  • Decreased frequency in attendance
  • No longer attending a group
  • Decreased giving patterns
  • Major participant in a church conflict
  • Family problems
  • Moral failure

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.

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  • Nine Traits of Church Bullies

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Podcast Episode #191

We cover seven points regarding prayer in the local church including how best to incorporate prayer into worship services, how to pray, and the use of catalytic prayer events.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Somewhere in the midst of all of the activities of the Western Church, we have lost sight of prayer and its place in the church.
  • Simply put, the state of prayer in the local church is not good.
  • Prayer has to be modeled by leadership. If the leadership doesn't emphasize prayer, the church will not be a praying church.
  • A theology of prayer that becomes a "here are my needs" checklist leads to a weak prayer life.
  • Special prayer services can sometimes scare off introverts.

The seven points we consider regarding prayer are:

  • The state of prayer in local congregations.

  • The "why" of weak praying churches

  • The wrong assumption about having large crowds to pray

  • Integrating prayer effectively in worship services

  • Consider a catalytic prayer event

  • Evangelistic churches are praying churches

  • Try the "PIPPs"

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  • Evangelism in the Early Church
  • War Room Church DVD License
  • "And the Pips" from the Richard Pryor Show

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Podcast Episode #190

Pastor and author Robby Gallaty joins us to talk discipleship in the local church. Robby has several resources available to believers and churches to help with making disciples who make disciples. He also tells us a story about John Wesley that neither Jonathan nor I had ever heard. It's quite fascinating.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • How different would other people's lives be if we really got serious about making disciples who make disciples?
  • For years we have taught people how to share their faith, but have neglected to teach them how to share their life with others.
  • A return to discipleship is what is going to catapult ahead in the future.
  • Most Christians in churches don't know what to do to disciple others so they don't do anything at all.
  • People grow better in smaller environments.
  • If you break discipleship down to the bare minimum, people can follow the process.

About Robby Gallaty
Bio: Robby Gallaty is the Senior Pastor of Long Hollow Baptist Church in Hendersonville, TN. He was radically saved out of a life of drug addiction on November 12, 2002. In 2008, he began Replicate Ministries to equip and train men and women to be disciples who make disciples. He is also the author of Creating An Atmosphere to Hear God Speak (2009), Unashamed: Taking a Radical Stand for Christ (2010), Growing Up: How to Be a Disciple Who Makes Disciples (2013), Firmly Planted: How to Cultivate a Faith Rooted in Christ (2015), and Rediscovering Discipleship: Making Jesus’ Final Words Our First Work (2015).
Twitter: @rgallaty

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Podcast Episode #189

We cover seven worship service trends to watch for in the future. These are taken from the recent megachurch report from Leadership Network; you can find the entire megachurch report at LeadNet.org/megachurch.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One major positive of multi-site churches is that these churches can have a presence in multiple communities.
  • Churches are looking to remodel and update existing worship centers instead of building new ones.
  • Some church leaders are deciding not to have choirs to free people up to do other ministry.
  • Missions giving does not distract from regular giving, it typically enhances it.

The seven worship trends we cover today are:

  • The average number of locations a multisite church has increased from 2.5 to 3.5 per church.
  • The median seating size for main sanctuaries has fallen from 1,500 seats to of 1,200.
  • The use of organ used often or always in worship services fell from 28% to just 18% of all megachurches.
  • Having choirs perform in services often or always declined from 43% to 35% of congregations.
  • An increasing percentage of churches say that Communion is always or often a part of worship, rising from 51% in 2010 to 57% presently.
  • Median % of weekly worship attendees to total participants fell from 96% in 2005 to 82% in 2015.
  • Churches with greater emphasis on missions see higher financial giving.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • 12 Megachurch Trends to Watch

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Podcast Episode #188

We examine the second half of my 16 trends to watch for in 2016. We covered the first half of the trends in podcast #187.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In the future denominations will need to partner along side churches to resource them instead of pushing resources down to them.
  • Churches are having difficulty finding staff that they need. The old systems don't work anymore.
  • One of the major benefits of using a search firm to help find church staff is the speed of finding the right person.
  • Congregations are tenacious. They don't die easily.
  • The silver lining to churches dying is that new churches will have facilities available.
  • The increased adversarial role of government is making it difficult for churches in the US.
  • The entertainment focus of senior adult ministry is waning.

The eight trends we cover today are:

  • The rise of the mini-denomination church.
  • Increased pastoral tenure.
  • Rise of alternative ministry placement organizations.
  • Increase in the number of Millennials who are Christians.
  • Accelerated decline of 100,000 American congregations.
  • Churches no longer viewed favorably by many governmental units.
  • More bivocational pastors and staff.
  • Dramatic changes in senior adult ministries.

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Podcast Episode #187

We examine the first half of my 16 trends to watch for in 2016. We will cover the second half of the trends in podcast #188.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Some churches say they can't afford security measures. You can't afford not to have appropriate security measures.
  • Sometimes I think church worship centers are second only to college football stadiums in their limited usage.
  • Pastors and leaders who avail themselves to coaching typically have the healthiest churches.
  • More people are going into gentrified communities, and as a result, more churches are being planted there as well.
  • I celebrate the renewed emphasis of classical theological training in seminaries.
  • An all-Anglo church seems abnormal to many Millennials.
  • The Homogenous Unit Principle is a reality in many churches but should not be a strategy.
  • Church plants need to be strategic at the onset about not being homogeneous.

The eight trends we cover today are:

  • Church security as the fastest growing ministry.
  • Decrease in worship center size and capacity.
  • Increase in successfully revitalized churches.
  • Rapid growth of coaching ministries for pastors and church staff.
  • Increase in the numbers of churches in gentrified communities.
  • Increased emphasis on practical ministry training.
  • Increasing emphasis on groups in churches.
  • Fewer segregated churches.

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Resources

  • Ministry Grid Training for Church Security and Emergency Response
  • Healthy Church Trends: A Look Back
  • 12 Megachurch Trends to Watch
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #186

We take a look back at some healthy church trend predictions mentioned in a 2012 post to see how things have progressed over the past four years. Surprisingly, we see all 12 present in healthy churches today as we enter into 2016.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you read the Bible daily, you are more likely to become a more devoted follower of Christ.
  • If you're not doing ministry and missions in your local community, you're likely not a healthy church.
  • The SBC was the worst offender on lowering the bar of church membership. That has thankfully reversed.
  • Pastors of non-evangelistic churches don't lead in evangelism.
  • What your church celebrates and focuses on, people tend to gravitate toward.
  • Most churches don't have problems adding programs. They really struggle with eliminating them.

The 12 trends found in healthy churches are:

  • The churches have a high view of Scripture.
  • A large number of church members read the Bible daily.
  • The churches have a priority and focus on the nations.
  • The churches have a missional community presence.
  • The congregations have membership that matters.
  • The members are evangelistically intentional.
  • These healthy churches have pastors who love the members.
  • The churches allow their pastors to spend time in sermon preparation.
  • There is clarity of the process of disciple making.
  • These churches do less better.
  • The process of discipleship moves members into ongoing small groups.
  • Corporate prayer is intentional and prioritized.

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Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • The Shape of Faith to Come
  • I Am a Church Member
  • Surprising Insights from the Unchurched
  • Simple Church
  • Nine Surprises in Worship Services That Made Guests Return

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Podcast Episode #185

We discuss some new research from Leadership Network on the state of megachurches in North America. This research summary, Recent Shifts in America’s Largest Protestant Churches: Megachurches 2015 Report, is available to download at the Leadership Network website.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Just like churches of any size, there are good megachurches and there are bad megachurches.
  • I do not recommend a church counts online service viewers in its worship attendance total.
  • If a church is not emphasizing small groups, it is a weak church.
  • The healthiest churches (regardless of size) have pastors who are being mentored or coached.
  • Sanctuary sizes are getting smaller as churches have more services instead of building larger buildings.
  • A church will likely see a higher growth rate with multisite than with one site.

The 12 findings about American megachurches we cover today are:

  • 79% of megachurches say yes, 41% of comparison churches say yes to the question: Do you strongly agree that your congregation has a clear mission and purpose?
  • 62% of megachurches are multisite, up from 46% five years previously.
  • The average number of locations for multisite megachurches is 3.5 up from 2.5 five years previously.
  • Megachurches average five services per weekend.
  • 45% of megachurches have worship services that considerably vary in style between services.
  • 81% of megachurches say that global missions are a major emphasis or specialty of the church.
  • 30% of megachurches host an online campus.
  • 79% of megachurches say small groups are central to their strategy of Christian nurture and spiritual formation.
  • 74% of megachurches have an internship or mentoring program.
  • 57% of megachurches serve communion always or often as a part of worship, up from 51% five years ago.
  • The median seating capacity of a megachurch main sanctuary is 1,200, down from 1,500 five years ago.
  • Growth rate over the past five years of younger megachurches (91%) is much higher than that of older megachurches (39%).

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Also, don't miss this special offer that's only available in December. The first 15 churches that start a search this December will receive a free VanderCoaching subscription. VanderCoaching is their video coaching curriculum that helps church leaders build, run, and keep great teams. It includes over 50 videos on topics like hiring, firing, staff reviews, church legality, and volunteers. It's normally priced at $1,000.00, but you'll get it for free if your church starts a search in December.

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Resources

  • MegaChurch Research from Leadership Network
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #184

We discuss a recent post on the decentralization of facilities and leadership. At the core of these changes is a desire to move away from centralization. And this trend may be one of the most significant trends of the American church in a century. So today, we share seven profound implications of this trend.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We have to be training our church leaders more in leadership competencies.
  • Unfortunately many of our church leaders and pastors have been trained well in theology but not practical ministry.
  • If a church is dying, it needs significant change. It basically needs to become a different church.
  • Ten years from now, multisite churches will be as common as multi-service churches.
  • I have never seen a church over-communicate.
  • In a multisite or multi-service church, you must have a consistent DNA across the sites and services.

The seven implications of decentralization in churches are:

  • Potential polity and procedural changes
  • Congregational adaptation
  • Functional choices of decentralization
  • New sub classifications of churches due to shifts in preaching models
  • Greater need for greater communication
  • Learning how to "transfer DNA"
  • New financial realities

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Also, don't miss this special offer that's only available in December. The first 15 churches that start a search this December will receive a free VanderCoaching subscription. VanderCoaching is their video coaching curriculum that helps church leaders build, run, and keep great teams. It includes over 50 videos on topics like hiring, firing, staff reviews, church legality, and volunteers. It's normally priced at $1,000.00, but you'll get it for free if your church starts a search in December.

Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group and VanderCoaching by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Mike Glenn Podcast

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Podcast Episode #183

We discuss a recent post by Chuck Lawless on why we don't evangelize as well as ways to encourage evangelism in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We have an evangelism tragedy that is taking place in our churches.
  • Continue to do ministry and missions, but let it be explicitly about the gospel—not just meeting physical needs.
  • Many mission trips have become tourist trips for many church members.
  • We unfortunately have a lot of church members in America who are practical universalists, syncretists, and inclusivists.
  • If it comes down to losing our job or being an obedient Christian, we should always choose the latter.
  • Fear cannot be our reason for not evangelizing.
  • Find me an evangelistic church and you will find an evangelistic pastor.
  • I will never buy the argument that we have enough churches in a community.

The nine reasons Christians don't evangelize are:

  • Many don’t know what “evangelism” is.
  • We have few evangelistic role models.
  • Some church members aren’t convinced about lostness.
  • Some churches have provided no evangelism training.
  • Fear of the unknown halts our efforts.
  • We’ve “gotten over” our salvation.
  • Pastors aren’t taking the lead in evangelism.
  • We don’t really know many lost people anyway.
  • We don’t care about non-believers.

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Also, don't miss this special offer that's only available in December. The first 15 churches that start a search this December will receive a free VanderCoaching subscription. VanderCoaching is their video coaching curriculum that helps church leaders build, run, and keep great teams. It includes over 50 videos on topics like hiring, firing, staff reviews, church legality, and volunteers. It's normally priced at $1,000.00, but you'll get it for free if your church starts a search in December.

Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group and VanderCoaching by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Breakout Churches
  • The Unchurched Next Door

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Podcast Episode #182

Discuss a few reason why pastors—Millennials in particular—may not be moving from church to church as often as in the past.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We are moving toward more church names based on the community in which they reside and away from denominational names.
  • Millennial pastors seem to place more thought in how their families will handle moving from church to church.
  • Pastors can be just as fulfilled in a church of 200 as they can in a church of 2,000.
  • Pastors, do not measure your worth in Christ by numbers or the size of your church.
  • Success in ministry is measured mostly by faithfulness, not fruitfulness.
  • Pastors should go into a church with the intention of being there for the long haul.

The five reasons pastoral tenure could increase are:

  • Pastors want to invest their lives in a community.
  • Pastors want more stability for their families.
  • Pastors don’t measure ministry success and fulfillment by numbers and size.
  • Pastors are starting new churches.
  • Pastors are leading church revitalization.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.

Also, don't miss this special offer that's only available in December. The first 15 churches that start a search this December will receive a free VanderCoaching subscription. VanderCoaching is their video coaching curriculum that helps church leaders build, run, and keep great teams. It includes over 50 videos on topics like hiring, firing, staff reviews, church legality, and volunteers. It's normally priced at $1,000.00, but you'll get it for free if your church starts a search in December.

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Podcast Episode #181

John C. Maxwell joins us to discuss his latest book, Intentional Living: Choosing a Life That Matters. We also cover a few leadership topics related to the local church like pastoral tenure, the need for leadership training, and how to make a difference that outlasts your life. Check out Start7Day.com for more free resources from John C. Maxwell on living intentionally.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Everything worthwhile in life is uphill."
  • "If we don't live an intentional life, we never get to the things that are worthwhile."
  • "Living intentionally means turning good intentions into good actions."
  • "We have people in the pews every week who have just dumbed down their lives."
  • "The big picture always has Jesus in the middle."
  • "The most underrated word in the English language is 'consistent.'"
  • "Our success is determined by what we do everyday."
  • "Most people don't lead their life—they accept their life. They don't write their life—they read their life."
  • "If you're an insecure pastor, you're always going to have trouble with the guys who have pastored before you."
  • "Successful leadership all starts with intentionality."

About John C. Maxwell
John C. Maxwell, the #1 New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker who has sold more than 25 million books, was identified as the #1 leader in business by the American Management Association® and the world’s most influential leadership expert by Business Insider and Inc. magazine in 2014. In that year Dr. Maxwell also rec
eived the Mother Teresa Prize for Global Peace and Leadership from the Luminary Leadership Network. His
organizations—The John Maxwell Company, The John Maxwell Team, and EQUIP—have trained more than 5 million leaders in every one of the world’s nations. For more information visit JohnMaxwell.com.
Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church.

Also, don't miss this special offer that's only available in December. The first 15 churches that start a search this December will receive a free VanderCoaching subscription. VanderCoaching is their video coaching curriculum that helps church leaders build, run, and keep great teams. It includes over 50 videos on topics like hiring, firing, staff reviews, church legality, and volunteers. It's normally priced at $1,000.00, but you'll get it for free if your church starts a search in December.

Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group and VanderCoaching by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #180

We discuss the connection between pastoral tenure and church health. We continue to see a pattern of healthy churches led by long-term pastors. While we have no statistical correlation, it simply makes sense that a pastor who sticks with a church through thick and thin will see that church become healthier over time.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastoral tenure is a lot more difficult than academic or business tenure.
  • I believe pastoring is the most difficult leadership assignment there is.
  • Pastors who seek mentoring and help are the ones who are most likely to experience revitalization.
  • A church doesn't accidentally start revitalizing. It is a very intentional process.
  • It is absolutely imperative for a pastor to live in or near the community of the church.
  • It is not a bad thing to go through conflict or crisis in the local church.
  • Going through conflict is not unusual. Not having conflict is not normal.

The six reasons pastoral tenure is so important are:

  • Our research continues to show a strong correlation to pastoral tenure and church health.
  • The breakout years of pastoral tenure typically begin after years 5 to 7.
  • Relationships take time, particularly in church leadership.
  • Nearly nine out of ten churches in America are in need of turnaround leadership.
  • Community relationships and impact take time as well.
  • Pastors and churches will have had time to go through a crisis or conflict.

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  • Breakout Churches
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #179

With the Christmas season quickly approaching, we take time to discuss how to make the best use of holiday events and services. You will likely have more unchurched people in your services during the Christmas season that any other time of the year. These six tips will help you maximize your effectiveness during the holiday season.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • People are more open to be prayed for during the Christmas season.
  • This is a great time of year to both be a blessing and remind people of the blessing that Jesus is.
  • People who are not in church are more receptive to an invite during the holiday season.
  • A Christmas Eve service is by far the easiest time of the year to get the unchurched to attend a service.
  • Any time you have a church event, you should learn things that will help you in the next event.

The six holiday outreach considerations we cover today are:

  • Pray for your community
  • Pray for the hurting during the holidays
  • Look for opportunities to minister
  • Don’t forget the unchurched - especially on Christmas Eve
  • Understand the power and limitations of special events
  • Prepare for the next event

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Big Oak Ranch
  • Five Secrets To Getting Church Guests To Return Cards

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Podcast Episode #178

We discuss how churches—intentionally or not—choose to die. Whether it be elevating negotiables to the status of non-negotiables or just refusing to face reality, churches often choose to die rather than choosing to change.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When a church has an attitude that the pastor works for them to meet their needs, it's already dying.
  • Many churches who feel they are "the friendliest church in town" truly are friendly...to one another.
  • Pastors too often blame new churches or megachurches for their church's failure to reach their community.
  • A church who is all about what it is against is on a path to dying as a church.
  • There are some church members who would rather let people die and go to hell than to lose their preferences in church.

The five ways churches act in such a way that they effectively choose to die are:

  • They refuse to face reality.
  • They are more concerned about greater comfort than the Great Commission.
  • They are unwilling to accept responsibility.
  • They are too busy fighting and criticizing.
  • They are confusing non-negotiables with negotiables.

Episode Sponsors
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Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Auxano
  • I Will
  • Twenty Five Silly Things Church Members Fight Over

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Podcast Episode #177

We love hearing from listeners and readers here at ThomRainer.com. Recently, we asked for your church guest experiences and the feedback was overwhelming. I wrote a post with the best and worst experiences and today we discuss that post as well as how my dog, Marley, likes his hamburgers dressed at Sonic.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If church members or staff take guests to lunch, a personal connection to the church is more likely.
  • Apprehension is the norm when a guest comes to a church for the first time.
  • Using insider language confuses church guests and alienates them.
  • If you have a stand-and-greet time, make sure it is a genuinely friendly time and not contrived.
  • Make sure your greeters are trained well and use good common sense.

The guest experiences we cover today are:

  • Seven Great Experiences

  • “They went out of the way to make my children calm and happy.”

  • “A lady befriended us and took us to her small group.”
  • “The pastor offered to take us to lunch.”
  • “A church member wrote our children a letter after meeting us.”
  • “The church was clean and had great signage.”
  • “A church member invited us to lunch.”
  • “We were greeted in the parking lot and walked to where we were supposed to go.”

  • Seven Bad Experiences

  • “I didn’t know what they were talking about. It was a lot of internal language and acronyms.”

  • “No one spoke to us.”
  • “We were given ear plugs when we walked in.”
  • “My wife and I are a mixed race couple. The greeter suggested we might be at the wrong church.”
  • “The friendliness seemed contrived and fake.”
  • “They asked us to stand up and introduce ourselves.”
  • “The greeter gave me a children’s bulletin and told me I could color on it. I’m twenty years old.”

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #176

Today we answer a few listener questions. As always, you can submit your questions on the podcast page.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors who lead after a church splits need a long-term view.
  • Discipleship is the act of becoming more like Christ.
  • The gospel is all about reconciliation.
  • When pastoring after a split, be prepared to give a great deal of pastoral care.
  • Behavior which harms the body of Christ should be confronted and reconciliation should be the goal.

The listener questions we answer this week are:
Kevin:
What advice would you give to a new minister of a recently split church as he assumes the pastoral responsibility of the remaining portion of the original congregation?
Aaron:
I'm a 22 year old pastor and I hear over and over again the importance of discipleship. I know what it is, I know what it means, but I don't know how to do it. Where do I start? Do you have resources that you recommend for helping me to start disciplining?
Jefferson:
As the Church, what role should we play in dealing with racism, especially when a church is multicultural? Do we have a responsibility to help bring reconciliation?
Janet:
Do you believe it is true that we/the church cannot address bad behavior among our members because they are volunteers and not employees? How can we begin to change to culture of the church back to healthy accountability?
John:
Why are so many Christians silent in churches when a church bully(ies) are dishing out their abuse? How do they understand what it means to show Christ like love?
Stephen:
My church's membership is growing smaller and older. Most members don't understand or use social media. They don't focus well on planning, delegation, goal-setting, establishment of timetables or deadlines. Financially strapped, they focus on prayer at THE solution while waiting for divine intervention to send them the money and the members they desperately need. However, I believe that God wants them to roll up their shirtsleeves nd do something besides praying and waiting.
Todd:
I have been in ministry for two decades now. I have served in children's, youth, college, young adult, interim, and missions roles. I was also a senior pastor for a year. I left that pastorate feeling led into church planting. That journey led me to eventually being part of a team and assisting another lead planter for a season. Towards the end of the time in that role I started looking for a full time job in the ministry again. I have been looking for almost three years now. Discouragement has been difficult at times. I have heard from some churches but not many. I am unsure where to turn or what to do at this point. I have had my resume listed with the state conventions in several states as well as directly contacted a number of DOM's in an area where my wife and I might like to live. My question is what can and should I do at this point? I feel stuck in a secular job, where I work as hard as I can, but I do not feel fulfilled in. And at times I worry some of my most productive years are being wasted outside of ministry.

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Podcast Episode #175

In a recent post, I discussed one of the more difficult aspects of church leadership—having to fire a staff member. Some readers took issue with the post, especially point #2. So today we discuss that post and further explain the why and the how of having to let a staff member go.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If there is a staff member out of alignment with the rest of the leadership, it can hurt the ministry of the church.
  • When hiring and firing, you need to consider competency, culture, character, and chemistry.
  • Some of the dumbest mistakes made when firing someone are made when you don;t get enough input.
  • When discussing performance issues with staff, always document insufficiencies.
  • No staff member should ever be surprised if they are let go. You should make multiple documented efforts to correct issues before reaching that point.
  • It's always easier to get a job if you have a job.
  • It's always better to encourage someone to find another position while they are still employed than to just cut them loose.

The six principles to remember when you have to let a staff member go are:

  • Pray about it fervently.
  • Make certain the “bad fit” was real.
  • Seek input from others.
  • Go through due process.
  • Show compassion.
  • Try to anticipate unintended consequences.

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #174

We discuss a recent post by Chuck Lawless on Christian leadership. Dr. Lawless provided nine introspective questions to determine if one is truly a Christian leader.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Does who you are in private match who you are in public?
  • We are often uncomfortable changing the status quo because sometimes the status quo provides our paycheck.
  • Great leaders are always looking beyond the present and to the future.
  • Great leaders are always trying to develop those whom they lead.
  • Positional authority is not always the same thing as real leadership.
  • If you see people as God sees them, you will invest time in them.

The nine questions you can ask yourself to determine whether or not you are a leader are:

  • If others knew my life intimately, would they want to follow me?
  • Am I uncomfortable with the status quo?
  • Do I have a picture of a bright future?
  • Do I see people as God’s gift or as a means to an end?
  • Is anyone following me?
  • Am I investing in anyone personally?
  • If I leave, will the ministry carry on well?
  • Am I continuing to learn?
  • Am I accountable to somebody for my godliness?

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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Resources

  • 9 Questions to Determine if You’re a Christian Leader
  • Be Humble. Stay Hungry. Always Hustle. - Podcast Episode with Brad Lomenick
  • Harvard Business Review
  • Henry French Dunks over David Dockery

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Podcast Episode #173

One of the most popular posts every year at ThomRainer.com is the annual listing of the largest churches in the Southern Baptist Convention. While we don't typically talk about specific denominations here on the blog or podcast, today Micah Fries joins us to discuss the SBC 500—a new list of the largest 500 churches in the SBC—and what we can learn from them. For the complete SBC 500 list, visit ThomRainer.com/SBC500.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Megachurches are not only reaching people for Christ, but they are increasing in number as well.
  • Southern Baptists are becoming a more urban denomination because the American population is becoming more urban.
  • We are seeing an intentional push toward diversity in leadership reflected in the megachurches of the SBC.
  • Of the top 20 largest SBC churches, 20% are predominantly non-anglo churches.
  • The number of non-anglo churches in the SBC has increased by 66% over the past 15 years.
  • The average tenure for senior pastors in the top 20 largest churches in the SBC is just under 22 years.
  • Big churches are dependent on big population areas. You can be an effective church without being a big church.

The four main takeaways we found when analyzing the SBC 500 were:

  • The South—and particularly Texas—is the epicenter of SBC megachurches.
  • Non-Anglo churches and megachurches are on the rise in the SBC.
  • Revitalization works have led to great growth among some traditional churches in the SBC.
  • Pastoral tenure is vital for long-term significant church growth.

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • SBC 500
  • @SBC500
  • Breakout Churches
  • Effective Evangelistic Churches

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Podcast Episode #172

We discuss a recent post on the non-negative reasons pastors give for leaving a church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Not everyone can lead a church of a certain size well.
  • The enemy likes nothing more than to get us involved in the Great Distraction.
  • Pastors, do you give so much attention to the negatives that you're neglecting the positives of pastoring?
  • There are two things churches don't do enough intentionally: corporate prayer and evangelism.
  • Sometimes a church needs certain leadership based on size and sometimes based on personality.

The five main reasons pastors give for leaving a church are:

  • “The church has grown as much it will under my leadership.”
  • “I am just not a good fit for this church.”
  • “I’m spending most of my time putting out fires.”
  • “The church has grown too large for my leadership skills.”
  • “The church needs to relocate, and I’m not the person to lead them.”

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
Feedback
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Resources

  • Church Answers Live
  • RonEdmondson.com
  • Cosco & Associates

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Podcast Episode #171

While church planting is garnering much attention (deservedly so), church revitalization is becoming more and more important throughout North America. In today's episode, we discuss this topic and why pastors sometimes feel unqualified or even fearful to lead a revitalization effort. We also talk about barbecue...because...well...Jonathan likes food.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Substantive changes in a church typically don't take hold until a pastor has been at a church for 4-5 years.
  • The most common way to face reality in a church is to look at a 10-year attendance pattern.
  • Revitalization is not something that happens with a snap of a finger.
  • You don't revitalize a church in your power. You do it through God's power.
  • There are a lot of pastors and church leaders who just don't want to ask for help.
  • If there were no risk in church revitalization, every church would be revitalized.
  • Don't get into revitalization if you're afraid to lead by faith.

The eight reasons pastors are afraid of revitalization are:

  • Revitalization requires a long-term vision for a church
  • It requires facing reality
  • It demands patience
  • It requires prayer
  • It might require asking for help
  • It requires “stick-to-it-ness”
  • It might mean hurting people you love
  • It requires taking a risk.

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Spurgeon Library
  • Edley's Bar-B-Que
  • Martin's Bar-B-Que
  • Breakout Churches
  • Revitalized Churches

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Podcast Episode #170

Discussion about a recent post on churches who are stuck in the 80's. We also chased a rabbit and ended up discussing a few sitcoms.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Culture change scares people to death, especially when it moves away from their moral values.
  • Church programs are not the easy answer anymore.
  • You can't plug and play the Holy Spirit.
  • Programs can often become an excuse for people not to do what they should be doing outside of the program.
  • Many church members want a me-focused church because it is comfortable to them.
  • We shouldn't be asking what we can do to stop culture change, but how we can meet people with the gospel in a changing culture.
  • Some churches would rather die than to get out of the comfort of the past.

The eight ways churches are stuck in the past are:

  • They are trying to shelter themselves from culture.
  • Programs were easy answers.
  • Churches largely catered to the needs of church members in the 1980s.
  • Change was more incremental.
  • Church growth was easier.
  • Denominations provided solutions.
  • Others did evangelism for the members in the 1980s.
  • Some churches would rather die than to get out of the comfort of their 1980’s paradigm.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Simple Church
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church

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Podcast Episode #169

Volunteers are crucial to many ministries in the church. Without volunteers, many ministries would simply not function. So what do you do to get more volunteers in the church? We cover that and more in this episode.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Spontaneous, informal recognition often means more to volunteers than planned, formal recognition.
  • One of the toughest things to do is find a volunteer for an activity that has no end date.
  • You have to show the need for volunteers to generate interest from potential volunteers.
  • Starting new groups typically enhances assimilation, provides new venues for leaders, and should increase evangelistic effectiveness.
  • Too many leaders focus on what's wrong instead of what's right.
  • I know of no other organization where volunteers are more important than they are in the local church.

The eight ways you can increase volunteer involvement in your church are:

  • Publicly recognize them
  • Involve current leaders in recruitment of new leaders
  • Offer them breaks
  • Show interest in their ministry
  • Start new groups - show the need
  • Spotlight successes in the church
  • Train them well
  • Equip them well

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
Feedback
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Resources

  • MinistryGrid.com
  • SmallGroup.com
  • GroupsMatter.com
  • Explore the Bible
  • Bible Studies for Life
  • The Gospel Project

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Podcast Episode #168

We discuss a recent post on senior adult churches who are wanting to reach a younger generation and the consequences of not being willing to change to do so.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • True power in a church comes from God through the prayers of His people.
  • Any successful ministry in a church begins with the power of prayer.
  • Two areas in which churches often lack intentionality: evangelism and prayer.
  • Churches who are reaching young adults have seniors who are intentionally making relationships with younger Christians.
  • If you expect young families to come to your church, your children's area needs to be ready before they come.
  • Unfortunately, when faced with a life or death choice, most churches end up choosing death over change and life.

The five ways churches comprised mostly of senior adults can reach younger members are:

  • Praying for younger people to come to the church.
  • Being willing to change.
  • Expanding their social circles to younger people.
  • Starting Bible studies with younger adults.
  • Asking younger adults to be “missionaries” to the older-adult congregation.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
Feedback
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Resources

  • Do Churches Practice Age Discrimination in Hiring Pastors and Staff?
  • Pastoral Leadership and Missions with David Platt

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Podcast Episode #167

Discussion about nine practical and easy ways churches can use the internet and online communities to share the gospel and reach out to those far from God.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The #1 time unchurched people are open to accepting an invite to church is Christmas Eve.
  • If churches don't have an email list, they need to start building one to communicate more effectively.
  • More than ever, churches have tools available to communicate with people. They should put them to use.
  • The same power of the Holy Spirit we see in the Book of Acts still lives in believers today.

The nine ways churches can use social media and the internet for outreach are:

  • Develop social media accounts to share info about the church
  • Provide an online “Welcome to (your city)” PDF with local municipal info
  • Share inspiring quotes and Bible verses online for others to pass on
  • Send out a weekly eNewsletter with church info and announcements
  • Blog about outreach event results to encourage participation in upcoming events
  • Post sermon videos to YouTube
  • Develop an online prayer ministry for the community
  • Use Periscope for some of your church events
  • Share photos of community events and places on your church website.

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Volunteers are the lifeblood of your church. How can you build, run, and keep a great volunteer team? Join Tim Stevens and Sarah Robins from Vanderbloemen Search Group on Oct 22nd to learn the best practices of building a contagious volunteer culture. Sign up for the free webinar "How To Build A Great Volunteer Team" here.
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Resources

  • Church Answers Live
  • @JimmyScroggins

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Podcast Episode #166

We talk church pastoral leadership and missions with David Platt. David was in town a few weeks back for LifeWay Chapel and a few other events and was kind enough to join us to discuss the IMB, how pastors can lead their churches on mission, and the struggles he faced as a pastor.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There is a very real sense in which the Word does the work.
  • The beauty of pastoring is that you don’t have to be ultimately innovative or creative—you’ve gotta be faithful.
  • Part of the role of a pastor is to develop leaders.
  • Global missions is the purpose for which we have breath on the planet.
  • No matter what size church you’re in, seek for the Spirit to call out missionaries from the church.
  • There are great ways for us to do short-term missions trips that have long-term effects.
  • Short-term missions ends up fueling long-term missionaries.
  • People won’t be what they can’t see.

About David Platt:
Dr. David Platt, President of the IMB and founder of Radical, is deeply devoted to Christ and His Word. David’s first love in ministry is making disciples, sharing, showing, and teaching God’s Word in everyday life. He has traveled extensively to serve alongside church leaders throughout the United States and around the world. David and his wife Heather have four children, Caleb, Joshua, Mara Ruth, and Isaiah.
Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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Podcast Episode #165

We discuss a recent post on 10 more barriers to church guests. As we mention in the podcast, the first barrier is not an easy one to overcome, but the other nine are low-hanging fruit for churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Some guest barriers are so natural to a church's environment that they go unnoticed.
  • For parents of children, checking the kids in at a new church is often a time of anxiety.
  • An abundance of memorial plaques in a church tells guests your church is living in the past.
  • Unnecessarily taking up seats at church tells guests that they are not welcome to sit near you.
  • There are certain barriers to church guests that members cause but are blind to.
  • Simple barriers to church guests can become barriers to them hearing the gospel.

The ten barriers to church guests we discuss today are:

  • The congregation was old.
  • There was clutter everywhere.
  • People were gathered in cliques talking to each other.
  • People got the aisle seats first.
  • There was inadequate signage for people with small children.
  • There was no worship guide or bulletin.
  • The check in process for children was slow and disorganized.
  • There were memorial plaques everywhere.
  • The service did not start on time.
  • People were saving seats.

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Church Answers Live
  • jonathan.howe@lifeway.com
  • Five Reasons Your Church Might Consider Using eBay to Increase Giving
  • The Sermon Starts in the Parking Lot - Danny Franks
  • Nine Things a Church Bulletin Must Have
  • How to Make Announcements in Worship Services

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Podcast Episode #164

Lets talk church bulletin requirements. Not only should you have a bulletin, but it should have these nine things as well.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • At sporting events or concerts, you typically have an informative program available to you. Why should churches be any different?
  • Church bulletins should be geared more toward guests than members.
  • I know of too many churches who people have emailed about the church and have gotten no response.
  • Even the smallest church can have a dedicated prayer request line via email or phone.
  • When everything is in the bulletin, people remember nothing.
  • Perforated cards for guests have a much lower response rate than loose cards.

The nine things a church bulletin must have are:

  • Worship times
  • Physical address of church
  • Website and social media links
  • Email, and telephone contact
  • Prayer request contact
  • Sermon notes
  • Major events
  • Vision or mission statement
  • Order of service

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
Feedback
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Resources

  • Nine Essentials for Guest-friendly Church Bulletins
  • How to Make Announcements in Worship Services
  • Church Answers Live

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Podcast Episode #163

On Friday's podcast episode, we discussed signs that you are leading or pastoring in maintenance mode. Today, we give seven ways to overcome and to break out of maintenance mode. Finally, don't miss the discussion about the 180 Test.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There are a lot of pastors and staff who are in maintenance mode and want to break out.
  • The most powerful thing you can do to break out of maintenance mode is to pray.
  • If you are outwardly focused in your leadership of the church, the congregation will likely follow.
  • You have to be intentional about developing a mentorship that is outwardly focused.
  • Show me an evangelistic church, and I'll show you an evangelistic pastor.
  • A church will drift inwardly until there is intentionality to move outwardly.
  • Take the 180 Test: Commit to do outwardly-focused ministry for at least three hours a week for a month.

The seven ways to move out of maintenance mode are:

  • Pray about it
  • Be truthful
  • Seek allies
  • Develop a mentorship
  • Be an example
  • Be repetitive
  • Take the 180 Test

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • ChuckLawless.com
  • ChurchAnswers.com

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Podcast Episode #162

A recent post on signs that you are leading or pastoring in maintenance mode. In our next episode we will discuss ways to overcome this.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The church is not only built for those who are there but for those who are not there as well.
  • One of the primary roles of a pastor is to equip the saints for the work of ministry.
  • Mentoring is a great form of equipping.
  • Pastoral care should be done throughout the congregation.
  • If you are too caught up in maintenance mode in your church, you'll end up neglecting your family.
  • A lack of joy is a lead indicator that you are pastoring in maintenance mode.

The tens signs you’re leading in maintenance mode are:

  • The pastor is not equipping others.
  • Pastoral care of members is increasing.
  • The pastor does not take time to connect with non-members and non-Christians.
  • The pastor deals with members’ complaints at an increasing rate.
  • The pastor worries more about the next phone call, conversation, or email.
  • The pastor experiences greater family interference time.
  • The pastor is reticent to take vacation time or days off.
  • The pastor is reticent to take new initiatives.
  • The pastor has no vision for the future.
  • The pastor has lost the joy of ministry.

Episode Sponsors
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.

Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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Resources

  • Surprising Insights from the Unchurched

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Podcast Episode #161

We hear from churches all over the country about how God is working in their churches and how they are seeing people come to new life in Christ. So on today's episode, we discuss nine relational evangelism ideas that are working in churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The easiest way to connect with a non-Christian is over a meal.
  • I do not understand why we do not pray for evangelistic opportunities more.
  • We have to be intentional about developing relationships with non-Christians.
  • Non-Christians are more open to coming to a Christmas Eve service than any other time of the year.
  • If you're not doing a Christmas Eve service, you're missing a great opportunity.
  • Align your church programs to intentionally create evangelistic opportunities.

The nine relational evangelism ideas that work are:

  • Partner with a Christian student group on a local college campus and host a late night coffee/study session during finals week
  • Encourage members to have a meal a week with an unchurched family
  • Frequent the same coffeeshop/restaurant and develop relationships
  • Go to the same non-Christian barber/stylist
  • Pray for opportunities each day to develop relationship with non-Christians
  • Join an organization to connect with non-Christians
  • Develop meaningful relationships with your non-Christian co-workers
  • Gift Christmas gifts (like baked goods) to your neighbors
  • Teach in an ESL class

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
Feedback
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Resources

  • The Master Plan of Evangelism
  • Tony Merida on Church Planting, Bivocational Pastors, & Orphan Care
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Podcast Episode #160

Brad Lomenick joins us to discuss his new book, H3 Leadership, and one of the most popular features on his blog—the young influencers list.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The "what's next?" for us is often the "what's now?"
  • If you don't understand your true identity in Christ as a leader, you're never going to be effective and have impact.
  • Don't let what you do define who you are.
  • The habit of execution is perhaps the most important quality of leaders today.
  • Leaders today have to be able to get it done.
  • You can be a great idea person, but if you can't get it done, the ideas don't matter.
  • If there is one major area where execution is lacking in the church, it's with outward focus.
  • Your legacy as a leader will be as much defined by the way you hand something off as by the way you build it.

The three points from H3 Leadership which we discuss are:

  • Humble (Who am I?)

  • Hungry (Where do I want to go?)

  • Hustle (How will I get there?

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Podcast Episode #159

We discuss a blog post from the early days of ThomRainer.com on change leadership.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Every organization is changing constantly. Good leaders recognize this and lead in the change.
  • Our methods may change, but the Word of God never does.
  • One of the best ways to be aware of the change in your church is to be on the lookout for it as it happens.
  • Real leaders surround themselves with people who can speak into issues from different perspectives and with more knowledge.
  • Courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is moving forward even when you fear.
  • Do not think for a moment that it is easy to be a change leader.
  • Five characteristics of a change leader: self awareness, awareness of reality, humility, courage, and decisiveness.

The five characteristics of successful change leaders are:

  • They assume that change is taking place at an increasing pace
  • They put the organization they lead above themselves
  • They are willing to look in the mirror
  • They don’t think they have all the answers
  • They are courageous

Episode Sponsors
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Church of the Highlands
  • I Will
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #158

We discuss a recent post on what churches look for—and avoid—when hiring a new pastor. Please note that when we reference age discrimination, we are referring to more of a preference for and a discounting of candidates of certain ages, not the classic legal definition of the term.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Not all intentional age discrimination in a church is malicious.
  • A pastor in his 40s typically has an easier time finding a church job than a pastor in his 30s or 50s.
  • The age of 55 is a psychological barrier for many churches when hiring, and it's a shame.
  • There are many pastors doing the most effective ministry of their career who would be considered "too old to hire" by some churches.
  • It's much easier to find a job when you have a job.
  • When churches limit their pastor search to young pastors, they could be missing out on some very experienced candidates.
  • Young pastoral candidates could bring enthusiasm and originality to many churches in need of both.

The six considerations about age discrimination we discuss are:

  • Age discrimination is common in many churches.
  • Churches do not discriminate maliciously.
  • Many churches determine candidate profiles by surveying church members.
  • Those excluded from consideration are on both ends of the age spectrum: the younger and the older.
  • Many members use the “+15” mental calculation to determine if a candidate is too old.
  • Churches are missing some great opportunities narrowing their focus to a certain age.

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Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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  • Pastoral Succession
  • Trends in Pastoral Job Searches and Succession

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Podcast Episode #157

Discussion about guest communication cards and so much more—including my allergies.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Drop-in visits to church guests have become exceptions rather than the rule.
  • Some guest cards look more like a census survey than an info card.
  • The bare minimum for guest info cards: first name, email address, and prayer requests.
  • The lower the barrier for guests, the more likely they are to return information cards.
  • I speculate churches would double or triple the number of guest cards turned in just by simplifying the info on the card.

The secrets to getting guests to fill out and return info cards are:

  • There needs to be time to complete it
  • Guests fear a visit & the motive
  • Phone info is held most closely
  • Most churches overcomplicate the guest cards
  • Less is more
  • Use digital registration for guests if possible
  • Have a place for prayer requests
  • Don’t make guests stand out
  • Consider offering a small gift in return for the card

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Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.

Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • I Will
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Podcast Episode #156

We discuss a recent post on church committees and why they often impede progress in many churches. We also provide alternate methods to a committee structure and ideas on how to best communicate a change to the committees in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Not all church committees are bad. Not all church committees lack purpose.
  • You will likely get some level of pushback or anger when you change a church committee’s purpose or structure.
  • Think diligently before starting a committee. It is a lot easier not to start a committee than to kill a committee.
  • Committees conform to the doctrine of the perseverance of committees.
  • Nomenclature matters with church structures such as committees or ministry teams.
  • Doing away with committees is not the solution to the ills in a church, but they are symptomatic of a church’s ills.
  • Churches overly focused on committees are often in decline and inwardly focused.

The five problems many church leaders have with church committees are:

  • The committee has forgotten its purpose.
  • Some committees meet even if they don’t have a reason to meet.
  • Some committees attract control freaks.
  • It’s hard to kill a committee.
  • Unnecessary committees and committee meetings replace ministry.

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Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is a dynamic community of learners who are serious about ministry preparation biblical studies theological reflection and cultural engagement. Their faculty are gifted men and women who minister as much through research and writing as through local church involvement but their primary ministry is teaching and caring for students. Find out more about TEDS at Divinity.TIU.edu.
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  • How to Lead a Staff Meeting Well
  • Seven Things Search Committees Should Do After the Pastor Is Selected

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Podcast Episode #155

Discuss the process of interviewing from the pastor's perspective, but we also discuss topics related to those searching for a pastor. We also discuss an all-too-common faux pas pastors make when interviewing as well as a mistake I made when I took my third pastorate.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Search committees often don't give a full representation of the church to a new pastor.
  • If there are certain theological stances you will be preaching on, convey that during the search process.
  • Pastors, don't hide your belief system in order to get a job.
  • Most of the time, search committees do not ask appropriate doctrinal questions of potential pastors.
  • A church's website will tell you a lot about the church—both good and bad.
  • I recommend all new pastors do a demographic and psychographic study of the area around the church.
  • A lot of interviewing is common sense, but when in the interview process, common sense often falls aside.

The 10 mistakes pastors make when interviewing with a new church are:

  • Exaggerating their previous successes
  • Believing everything the committee says
  • Being intentionally unclear about their beliefs
  • Not asking the right questions
  • Majoring on the minors
  • Failing to discuss compensation later on or discussing too early
  • Not contextualizing their ministry ideas and terminology to the church
  • Use of the phrase “In my current church” or “In my previous church"
  • Failing to ask others about the church
  • Not doing your homework on the church

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #154

We welcome Stephen and Alex Kendrick to the podcast. Their new movie, War Room, opens today in theatres nationwide. I encourage you and your family or small group to see the movie this weekend, because it will absolutely rekindle a hunger for prayer in your life.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • "Our culture has put man on the throne and we are in a mess because of that."
  • "War Room is unapologetically bold. It is a call to prayer."
  • "War Room is a visual parable on the power and importance of prayer."
  • "Prayer should not be about praying comfortable or convenient prayers."
  • "Every one of our movies has been one answered prayer after another."

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Podcast Episode #153

What pastors need to know about business and answer a few questions from the listeners of Rainer on Leadership. As always, you can ask your questions on the podcast page.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Most churches have as much as half of their membership who are not very active.
  • Casual dress means service and giving will be casual about as much as high church attire means they will be higher.
  • Pastors need to know basic business principles when leading a church.
  • Most pastors and staff members do exhibit a grateful heart.
  • Every church needs some type of succession plan regardless of the age or tenure of the pastor.

The questions we cover on the podcast are:
JEREMY - I'm holding my first pastorate in a church that needs revitalized. With that said, I have this lady on the mission board, who only comes to church when the mission committee meets (she is the secretary and writes the checks). Then when she does come, she does not join us in the sanctuary. Instead, she sits in the fireside room. This lady is also a long time member. How should I address this both with the leadership and her?
COLEMAN - Your recent podcast, about church attire was so timely because we are at a dynamic new church, that has a casual dress code. My wife likes me in a suit and I also want to set an example for my young sons who are impressionable. We are from the midwest, but live in California now, so casual is acceptable. But if the attire is casual, what else is? Tithing, Service, Values? Old church was too old, and out of touch. New church too hip, casual approach. Whats a young family to do?
PAUL - You mentioned in your post on 10 things you wish you knew before becoming a pastor that you wish you'd known how important a business acumen would be in pastoral ministry. I am training to become a pastor, and like yourself, I love God and His Word, but my knowledge of business is pretty weak. I would like to know more about this; what, specifically, would you suggest new pastors know in this area?
SCOTT - Why don't churches come together cooperatively? This could be an outreach event, a service ministry project, youth groups....anything. It seems that we stay to ourselves, or our denominations. If we are ALL the body of Christ, what's stopping us from doing this?
TERESA - Should pastors express gratitude to their congregants for kindnesses shown to them and their families, including gifts and services?
PHIL - What are the signs of a church's need for an intentional lead pastor succession plan?

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Podcast Episode #152

We discuss a recent post on guest friendliness and seven steps churches are taking to increase their friendliness toward guests. Whether your church has a dedicated greeting time in the service or not, these principles will increase the friendliness in your church and help you retain guests better.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When you conclude services on time, your members have more time to greet other members and guests.
  • Signage eliminates barriers for church guests because they will more easily know where to go.

The seven ideas for increased guest friendliness in the church are:

  • Conclude the services on time.
  • Use the most outgoing members in critical places.
  • Ask your most extroverted members to sit by guests and converse with them.
  • Ask your most extroverted members to mingle intentionally before and after the service.
  • Have clear signage that lets guest know where to go.
  • Encourage people to speak to each other at the end of the service.
  • Have people wear shirts or badges that clearly indicate they are available to help others.

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Podcast Episode #151

Talking about a recent post on what keeps churches from growing. While we cover the six main issues listed in the blog post, don't miss the bonus at the end.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It's much more difficult to lead a church to growth today than it was a few decades ago.
  • I don't think most church leaders realize most attendance decline is due to less frequent attendance from members.
  • I love the theological resurgence we've seen in our churches.
  • Don't be the leader who is so far out in front of your people that you're mistaken for the enemy and get shot in the rear.
  • Conflict and disunity is a great Great Commission distraction.
  • Unresolved conflict in a church leads to disunity.
  • The most expensive church hire you'll ever make is the wrong one.

The six reasons church growth is more difficult today are:

  • Cultural Christians are much less likely to attend.
  • More committed Christians are attending less frequently.
  • An overcorrection to practical ministry.
  • Activities replacing ministry.
  • Growing conflict and disunity in congregations.
  • Entitlement mentality among some church members.

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  • I Will
  • The Activity Driven Church
  • Five Problems with Church Committees
  • Simple Church
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #150

Today we discuss a recent post by Chuck Lawless on discipleship and cover eight steps that can lead to more effective discipleship in your church. We also reveal some lead indicators which show that discipleship is growing in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The entire Bible is a discipleship passage—not just certain verses.
  • You will catch more people by example than by dictating.
  • Discipleship is not just content delivery.
  • Pastors will work for hours upon hours on their sermons but many don't have a clue what is being taught in the small groups in their churches.
  • True accountability takes place in healthy relationships.
  • One of my pet peeves is the silo-ing of evangelism and discipleship.
  • Committed church members used to be at church three times a week—now it's three times a month.
  • Just because you're showing up at church doesn't mean you're growing as a disciple.
  • If a mom and dad aren't training their children, they are missing one of the most effective forms of discipleship.
  • Oddly, one of the lead metrics of discipleship growth in a church is giving.

The eight steps to more effective discipleship in your church are:

  • Lead by example.
  • Focus on content, application, and accountability.
  • Ensure evangelism is part of the process.
  • Church attendance is a good start but it's not everything.
  • It takes time and patience to change the discipleship DNA of established churches.
  • Personal mentoring is one of the most effective forms of discipleship.
  • Your personal discipleship must not be neglected.
  • Parents need to be trained to make disciples in the home.

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  • LifeWay.com
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Podcast Episode #149

Discuss the activity-driven church and how that has hindered ministry in many churches. Churches doing activities for activities' sake have created an insulated membership and stifled community involvement. Today we talk about how to get your church back on track with activities that match the purpose of the church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church activities are often the end instead of the means for churches.
  • Activity-driven churches often believe they are being more spiritual or church-health-oriented when they're doing those activities.
  • Busyness in the local church is one of the biggest deterrents to evangelism.
  • So many believers get busy doing church things that they don't get to know unchurched people.
  • Are you asking what the purpose is of every church activity?
  • Too many churches are involved in activities which do not accomplish the mission of the church.

The seven points we discuss about activity-driven churches are:

  • Activity is not biblical purpose.
  • Busyness can take us away from connecting with other believers and non-believers.
  • An activity-driven church often is not strategic in its ministries.
  • A congregation that is too busy can hurt families.
  • An activity-driven church often has no presence in the community.
  • Activity-driven churches tend to have “siloed” ministries.
  • Churches that focus on activities tend to practice poor stewardship.

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Resources

  • Simple Church
  • The Five Most Common Mistakes Church Leaders Make When Leading Change
  • Whatever Happened to Sunday Evening Services?
  • How Involved Should a Minister Be in the Community?
  • Unleashing the Church

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Podcast Episode #148

A recent post, Six Reasons Why Women May Be Leaving Your Church, really generated a lot of feedback. So much so, that we took today's episode to discuss the topic further and cover these six reasons. While they may apply to men in the church as well, these are specific issues we are hearing from women as to why they decide to leave a church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When they are overworked in the church, many women will disengage from church or just move to another one.
  • Generally speaking, women are more relational than men and can be more relationally hurt than men.
  • Children's ministry is one of the key areas for the church in the present and future.
  • If a church does not address safety and security issues in its children's ministry, it will not reach young families.
  • Most of the time, churches have funds to do what is needed. They are just spending the money elsewhere.
  • What you do in the workplace and at home is ministry—not just what you do at church.
  • If a husband does not attend church, it is extremely difficult for the wife to go by herself.
  • There is a big need for a church to have a place for a woman to connect in small group if her husband does not attend.

The six reasons why women may be leaving your church are:

  • They are overworked.
  • They do not feel valued.
  • They are relationally hurt.
  • There is a lack of quality childcare.
  • They are too busy.
  • Their husband does not attend.

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Resources

  • Ministry Grid
  • Six Reasons Why Women May Be Leaving Your Church

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Podcast Episode #147

We cover a few guidelines on dealing with giving in the church, who needs to know what, and how to assess current and potential leaders as it pertains to financial stewardship. Also, don't miss the story about the "budget pledge wall" at a church I once spoke at.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Violating the confidentiality of the giving records of church members is almost always grounds for dismissal.
  • Too often, church members put stipulations on their giving to try to gain influence.
  • Someone should not be an elder or deacon if they are not a regular giver of to the church.
  • If you're not a faithful steward financially, you're not qualified to be a leader in the church.

The six guidelines we cover regarding financial giving and accountability for churches are:

  • Financial information should be kept confidential
  • Generous giving should be expected from staff, leadership, and members
  • Giving should not be used a bargaining chip or for influence or positions in the church
  • There must be clear guidelines on the information senior staff can see
  • Some churches publish commitments of giving without a dollar amount (just share that a person or family has committed to give)
  • Violation of guidelines can destroy trust in the church

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Five Thoughts about Church Memorials
  • The Five Most Common Mistakes Church Leaders Make When Leading Change

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Podcast Episode #146

We discuss a recent blogpost on ministerial attire, and how that definition changes from church to church and region to region. Also in this episode, Jonathan managed to work in a Downton Abbey reference, and we completely sidestepped the women's attire discussion.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Demographic context matters a great deal in what a pastor wears in the pulpit.
  • The general trend, both culturally and in the church, is toward more casual attire.
  • Don't put your personal clothing preferences above your love for others.
  • Church attire is about more than just clothing. It's also about putting others above yourself.

The six points on ministerial attire we cover are:

  • Understand the demographic context
  • Understand the church’s expectations
  • Understand changes in fashion styles
  • Lead change gradually
  • Don’t put your preferences ahead of your love for others
  • Understand the emotional attachment

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Podcast Episode #145

Discussion about ministry involvement in the community for church leaders. We also reminisce about a few small festivals and town nicknames.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There has been a notable shift in how pastors and ministers connect in the community.
  • Most ministers are probably not involved sufficiently in the community.
  • You shouldn't treat your community involvement as a siloed activity. Connect it to your ministry in the church.
  • Some of the least used facilities in the nation are church buildings. Explore partnerships with community groups to use your facilities.
  • Churches and ministers should have a presence at major community events and festivals.

The 8 guidelines for connecting in the community are:

  • Most ministers are not involved sufficiently
  • “Explore” your community
  • Align your community involvement with your gifts and passions
  • Tether your community involvement to your church ministry function
  • Develop social relationships with those who are not already members of your church
  • Attend significant community events
  • Don’t isolate yourself from other ministers through your community involvement
  • Realize opportunities for prayer

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • How Many Hours Must a Pastor Work to Satisfy the Congregation?
  • Get Out: Student Ministry in the Real World

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Podcast Episode #144

We explain the 10 symptoms found in sick churches. Some may exhibit a few of these—others may exhibit all of them. Jonathan also shares an idea for a church food blog.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches without a joyous spirit are most likely to be ones in decline.
  • There needs to be a way to measure evangelistic fruit in your church.
  • A church with a conversion ratio higher than 40:1 is showing symptoms of evangelistic sickness.
  • Social ministry without sharing the gospel within the ministry context will not lead to evangelistic growth.
  • Consider hosting ESL classes on Sunday mornings as an entry point to worship services.
  • Church guest information cards have become too complicated and often ask too much information.

The 10 symptoms found in a sick church are:

  • Declining worship attendance.
  • Decline in frequency of attendance of church members.
  • Lack of joy and vibrancy in the worship service.
  • Little evangelistic fruit.
  • Low community impact.
  • More meetings than ministry.
  • Acrimonious business meetings.
  • Very few guests in worship services.
  • Worship wars.
  • Unrealistic expectations of pastoral care.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Breakout Churches
  • The Number One Reason for Decline in Church Attendance
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #143

A look at church vision statements and how they must be memorable, succinct, and connected to your church's discipleship process. If not, they will either fail or be quite ineffective.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A vision statement is God's specific plan for a specific church at a specific time.
  • Too many vision statements are abstract and don't click with the people in a church.
  • The vision statement of your church should mirror your church's discipleship process.
  • Every ministry in your church should align with your discipleship process and, as a result, your vision statement.
  • Vision statements fail when they are not actionable and are poorly communicated.
  • Ongoing reminders of the vision statement are required to make it stick with the members.

The six elements of a church vision statement are:

  • The vision statement must be biblical
  • Have the vision statement mirror you discipleship process
  • Keep the vision statement succinct and memorable
  • Ensure your ministries align with the vision statement
  • Develop an ongoing vehicle to communicate the vision statement to the members (front end, continuous)
  • Communicate expectations of the members in the vision statement

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  • The Decline of Sunday Evening Services
  • Simple Church
  • The Five Most Common Mistakes Church Leaders Make When Leading Change

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Podcast Episode #142

This week, my newest book, I Will, was released. So today on the podcast, we give an overview of the book and the resources related to I Will. Be sure to listen for the giveaway in the podcast and be one of ten winners who will get a free, signed copy of the book.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church membership is more about how you can serve than how you can be served.
  • If you're not in a small group, you're not a fully functioning member of the body of Christ.
  • The entire idea behind I Will is to get members focused outwardly.
  • Giving is one of the key indicators for being an outwardly focused church member.
  • You can tell a person's commitment to their church by looking at their giving statements.
  • Traditions are ok, but not when they become an idol in a church.

The nine "I Will" statements we cover are:

  • I Will Move from “I Am” to “I Will”
  • I Will Worship with Others
  • I Will Grow Together with Others
  • I Will Serve
  • I Will Go
  • I Will Give Generously
  • I Will Not Be a Church Dropout
  • I Will Avoid the Traps of Churchianity
  • I Will Make a Difference

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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Will
  • Simple Church
  • Southeastern Seminary

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Podcast Episode #141

Today on the podcast, Selma Wilson joins us to discuss the challenges and opportunities women face in leadership. Selma serves as vice president of organizational development at LifeWay Christian Resources and has been with LifeWay for more than 20 years.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The diversity and strength of your team makes you a stronger leader.
  • The team you put around you in leadership really matters.
  • The diversity of gifts and strengths on your leadership team will make you a stronger leader.
  • Don't ignore critics, but don't lead toward them. Keep the end in mind and don't let the critics divert you.
  • The role of pastor is one of the greatest leadership roles in the world.
  • To manage your time well, you need structure for your time.
  • There is no replacement for time. You can't get it back.
  • Half of a congregation is women. You need leaders in the church who can speak to women's issues.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • SelmaWilson.com
  • Selma on Leadership
  • Raising Godly Children
  • Journey magazine

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Podcast Episode #140

Today on the podcast we discuss a recent post about pastors and why they shouldn't throw in the towel and quit.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It is rare that a "storm" hangs over a church indefinitely.
  • Leaders always get attacked the most. Critics see leaders as a convenient target.
  • Critics are often upset with the change more than they are upset with the leader introducing it.
  • Many of your church members are fearful of the cultural changes taking place.
  • Churches shouldn't be anchored to methodologies. We should only anchor to the Word of God.
  • It is normal for pastors to want to quit at times, but remember He who called you will sustain you.

The encouragements that we cover for pastors who want to quit are:

  • Many storms pass quickly.
  • It’s probably not you.
  • The vast majority of the congregation supports you.
  • Remember your call.
  • Longer-term pastors see better days.
  • Hurting church members often hurt others.
  • It’s not better in other churches.
  • The changing culture frustrates many church members.
  • God is with you.

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Resources

  • 5 Stages of Pastoral Tenure
  • The Green Grass Syndrome

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Podcast Episode #139

Today on the podcast we tackle a problem every church has in some form—recruitment of volunteers. Whether you need teachers, small group leaders, ushers, or nursery workers, these seven keys will help you activate and retain volunteers in your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Too many times, we bring members into a church without letting them know the expectations of membership.
  • When looking for volunteers, talk about the "why" and the people impacted by the ministry.
  • Recruiting volunteers needs to be done one-on-one whenever possible.
  • If a church does not have an emphasis on small groups, it will be an unhealthy church.
  • The key to success in any organization is to get the right people and get them in the right place.
  • One of the reason we lose volunteers is because we have them doing things that make them miserable.
  • Find places for volunteers that match their passions and talents.
  • Many times it is helpful to have a point person in charge of all recruitment in the church.

The seven keys recruiting more volunteers in your church are:

  • Recruiting must begin at new membership or before
  • Recruiting must have more "why" than "what"
  • Recruiting is best when it is individual
  • The most effective recruiting takes place in small groups
  • Consider recruiting with definitive termination dates
  • Consider recruiting with alternating assignments
  • Get the right people on the bus, and the right people in the right seats on the bus (gifts and passion)

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Podcast Episode #138

Today on the podcast we discuss a recent post from Chuck Lawless entitled 12 Signs of Mediocrity in a Church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It is a sin to be good when God has called you to be great.
  • Churches should evaluate everything they do to determine how it can be done better.
  • Rather than doing several things poorly, do fewer things really well.
  • Without a clear strategy, you will likely not have effective discipleship in a church.
  • The essentials of a church's vision: a specific plan for a specific church at a specific time.

The twelve signs of mediocrity in a church are:

  • No plans for evaluation.
  • Tolerance of mistakes.
  • Poor maintenance of the church grounds.
  • Poor upkeep of the building.
  • No records of attendance, growth, etc.
  • No clear discipleship strategy.
  • Toleration of sin.
  • No class for membership.
  • Lack of vision.
  • Little attention to the nations.
  • No new workers in place.
  • Lack of “healthy chaos.”

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Resources

  • Breakout Churches
  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Will
  • ChuckLawless.com
  • Bulletin Bloopers
  • Simple Church

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Podcast Episode #137

We discuss how church culture has changed, is changing, and will continue to change in the future. Our society is pressing in on the church and will change much of how church is done, but we must hold fast to the unchanging Word of God in the midst of any change.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Cultural Christianity is ending.
  • As people change, culture shifts.
  • Society is changing so rapidly that it's confusing the church and confusing church members.
  • Some church members view outdated cultural realities as the way things ought to be, and that causes conflict in the church.
  • About 75% of churches are really resistant to change, but many don't realize it.

The six keys to dealing with power groups in your church are:

  • Remember the simple truth that culture is people
  • Leadership sets the tone
  • Rapid societal change is normative
  • Discern what is (1) unchangeable, (2) negotiable, and (3) must-changeable
  • Grasp the church resistance scale to determine the type of leadership needed
  • Look at the Autopsy principles

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • The Levity Effect
  • Six Reasons Pastors Should Not Quit Their Jobs on Monday
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • The Five Types of Change Resistant Churches
  • One church’s sunset means a new day for another

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Podcast Episode #136

Jackie Bledsoe joins us this week on the podcast to discuss ministry and family balance, technology, and his upcoming book, The Seven Rings of Marriage.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There are so many benefits to technology but we have to watch our use of it and eliminate distractions to our family.
  • Pastors basically have two families, and there is a natural tension between the two.
  • Our ministry at home is training ground for our ministry in the church.
  • Involve your family in ministry and use that time to serve and spend time together.
  • Looking for ideas for a date night with your spouse? Check out Jackie Bledsoe’s Date Night in a Box:
  • Churches often focus on men’s and women’s ministry while marriage ministry is relegated to just an annual retreat.

About Jackie Bledsoe:

Jackie Bledsoe is an Christian author and blogger based in Indianapolis, Indiana. He and his wife, Stephana, have one daughter, Jaicey, and two sons, Jackson and Joshua. Find out more about Jackie at his website JackieBledsoe.com.
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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Platform makeover
  • Platform University
  • Date Night in a Box
  • Seven Rings of Marriage: The Model for a Lasting and Fulfilling Marriage
  • JackieBledsoe.com

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Podcast Episode #135

On the podcast we discuss power groups—both positive and negative groups. I also found out something about Jonathan that I did not know before.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • I don't think any pastor has ever served in a church where there wasn't some form of a power group.
  • Gaining power for power's sake is a problem.
  • Every power group thinks they are doing good for the church. Many times they aren't.
  • Most power groups in the church are trying to return the church to an era that no longer exists.
  • When a negative power group exists in a church, align yourself with positive people.
  • Before confronting a negative power group in the church, ask for counsel from those whom you can trust.

The six keys to dealing with power groups in your church are:

  • Discern if the issue is really power
  • Try to understand motives
  • Grasp the "berry bucket" theory"
  • See if a direct approach will work (Matthew 18)
  • Develop key alliances
  • Determine if a work around or a confrontation will be best

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Five Stages of a Pastor's Ministry

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Podcast Episode #134

Discussion about financial barriers and budgets in the local church. As we mention in the podcast, if you want us to examine an item in your church budget, email jonathan.howe@lifeway.com.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Both browbeating people about giving and completely ignoring it are not healthy for a pastor.
  • The church should lead by example in good stewardship.
  • Zero-based budgeting is often the best budgeting method for churches.
  • Offering envelopes are antiquated—but they work to increase giving.
  • Millennials want to know the money they give is being spent well.
  • Millennials have little patience for waste when it comes to church budgets.

The six keys to breaking financial barriers in your church are:

  • Preach on stewardship
  • Live within your means as a church
  • Use powerful stories around the offertory time
  • Provide various means of giving
  • Use testimonies during the time of giving in the church
  • Understand the mindset of Millennials

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  • FIFA Corruption

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Podcast Episode #133

Today on the podcast we discuss a recent post on trends in worship service times.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Psychologically, when a church service goes past noon, it feels "too long" for many.
  • Early services are growing in popularity with young families and Boomers.
  • There is not rapid growth in non-Sunday worship services. The growth is steady, but slow.
  • Saturday night worship services in the South often struggle because of the popularity of college football.

The seven trends in worship service times are:

  • Churches with multiple Sunday morning services will soon be in the majority
  • The 11:00 am worship service is no longer the designated time for a majority of churches
  • Earlier Sunday morning services are gaining in popularity
  • The growth in the number of non-Sunday primary services is steady but slow
  • The number of churches with concurrent worship service times is small, but will continue to increase
  • The most popular worship times start between 9:30 am to 10:30 am
  • Worship wars over service times will continue to wane

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Podcast Episode #132

We cover a pair of posts on guest friendliness and what you should and shouldn't say to guests at your church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • If you tell someone they're sitting in your pew, they'll likely get up...and never return.
  • There is nothing good that comes from telling guests they are late and the service has already begun.
  • Parents do not want to put their children in a nursery when they are told it's a burden to keep their kids.
  • These issues can help churches break attendance barriers simply by being more guest-friendly.

The seven things you SHOULD say to guests are:

  • “Thank you for being here.”
  • “Let me help you with that.”
  • “Please take my seat.”
  • “Here is my email address. Please let me know if I can help in any way.”
  • “Can I show you where you need to go?”
  • “Let me introduce you to ___________.”
  • “Would you join us for lunch?”

The ten things you SHOULD NOT say to guests are:

  • “You are sitting in my pew/seat.”
  • “Is your husband/wife with you?”
  • “Are those your children?”
  • “The service has already begun.”
  • “There is not enough room for your family to sit together.”
  • “You will need to step over these people to get to your seat.”
  • “That’s not the way we do it here.”
  • “You don’t look like you are a member here.”
  • “Have you considered attending the church down the street?”
  • “The nursery is real full.”

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Tony Merida on Hospitality

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Podcast Episode #131

We cover an often overlooked aspect of ministry: counseling. Most, if not all, ministers will be needed for counseling at some point in their ministry. So it is important to establish guidelines for counseling for the benefit of both the minister and those seeking the counseling. We also discuss premarital counseling and whether or not ministers should perform the weddings of those who do not go through premarital counseling.

  • It is absolutely necessary to have safeguards in place for opposite gender counseling.
  • Pastors should be available to counsel members because many issues are specifically spiritual in nature.
  • Counseling is a great need in many churches.
  • Counseling policies should be in writing for the protection of the church and the minister.
  • Staff who enjoy counseling sometimes unknowingly neglect other duties by spending too much time counseling.
  • Premarital counseling was required for all couples for whom I performed the wedding ceremony.

The eight guidelines for counseling we discussed are:

  • Be careful with opposite gender counseling.
  • Know your limitations in counseling.
  • Have a system of referrals for outside counselors.
  • Get to know other professional counselors in the area.
  • Know your local rules and regulations regarding counseling.
  • Know the boundaries of your counseling abilities.
  • Get to know other staff in the area to learn localized counseling issues.
  • If illegal activity is discovered, immediately go to legal authorities.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Lifeworks Counseling Center - Longhollow Baptist Church

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Podcast Episode #130

There are a host of positive benefits to denominations. But their reputations can often be less than positive with those outside of the denomination. We often unfairly ascribe issues in local churches to a denomination as a whole as well as larger denominational issues to local churches within that denomination. So today on the podcast, we discuss the place denominations have in our church culture and their future.

  • Some denominations have negative doctrinal reputations. Others have negative personal reputations.
  • When it comes to denominations, the media often covers the nutty, the negative, and the naysayers.
  • Millennials are less denominationally tied than any other generation.
  • Many denominations see the redundancies and inefficiencies present in their structures and are changing.
  • Denominations anchor churches in a clear, common doctrinal position.

The eight reasons people are leaving denominational churches for non-denominational churches are:

  • Denominational churches have a negative reputation.
  • Denominations are known more for what they are against than what they are for.
  • There is too much infighting and politics in denominations.
  • The denominational churches are too liberal.
  • There is a general waning of institutional loyalty in institutions such as denominations.
  • Denominations have inefficient systems and organizations. They are too bureaucratic.
  • Some of the respondents could see no perceived benefit to belonging to denominations.
  • Denominations are not good stewards of their financial resources.

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Podcast Episode #129

We discuss many of the issues involved in moving to or from multiple worship services. In most cases, it's not just about adding an hour of programming. There are logistical issues almost at every turn, and communication and foresight are key parts to a successful transition.

  • Churches hold multiple worship services for various reasons: seating capacity, worship style, convenience.
  • The most successful moves to or from multiple worships come when the pain point is obvious to the congregation.
  • Volunteer needs in a church change dramatically when adding a worship service.
  • Many churches who over built a decade or two ago are now contracting the size of their worship space.
  • Churches need a breathing period to adjust to the new normal when they add a worship service.

The seven things you need to know about moving to or from multiple worship services are:

  • Know your attendance numbers & capacity
  • Start sowing the seeds with leadership early
  • Think about logistics
  • Consider volunteer needs and demands
  • Make the move when the pain point is obvious
  • Stay positive but be honest
  • Move forward with the new normal

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  • Cosco & Associates
  • Revitalized Churches

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Podcast Episode #128

We discuss why church members dislike change and ways that pastors and church staff can help ease this tension when a church begins to grow. This comes from a recent blog post entitled Seven Reasons Some Church Members Don't Want Their Churches to Grow..

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • When there is growth taking place, new people come into a church and things change.
  • Many times we are too concerned about our needs, our preferences, and our comforts in the church.
  • When churches grow, groups are the key to maintaining intimacy.
  • As a church grows larger, it has to grow smaller through groups.
  • Worship style continues to be an explosive issue in many churches.
  • Don't just explain the what of a change but the why as well.

The seven reasons some church members do not like church growth are:

  • Loss of familiarity.
  • Loss of memories.
  • Loss of comfort.
  • Loss of power.
  • Loss of perceived intimacy.
  • Loss of worship style.
  • Loss of worship time.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • Church Answers
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #127

We get several questions a week for the podcast. Some we answer in email responses. some we just can't answer for one reason or another, and some we use for episodes like this. Thanks to all who submitted questions that we used today. We will be sending each of you a signed copy of Autopsy of a Deceased Church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Parachurch ministries are good for college students to be involved in, but students also need to be in a local church.
  • There is a statistical connection between how much someone is plugged into a church and the likelihood of giving.
  • More churches are interested in preserving church culture than reaching Millennials.
  • Sometimes instead of running over people as a leader, you have to lead around them.
  • When following a long-tenured pastor, embrace the legacy that has been built.

The questions we cover today are:
Ryan — How might parachurch ministries (such as campus ministries) connect people to a local church?
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Justin — Is there any statistical connection/relationship between how "plugged in" (small groups, bible studies, volunteering, vs. attending some Sundays) someone is at church and how much they give monetarily?
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R.D. — How do you (as a teaching pastor especially) deal with more vocal church members who hold to unorthodox theological positions on gender issues and sexuality?
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Joseph — Are there churches really taking the steps to reach Millennials or are too many concerned with preserving church culture? A follow up could be: how can a church combine both of these practices (reaching and preserving)?
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Phillip — Do you have any recommendations for resources for pastors, lay leaders, and deacons of the "micro" (as opposed to the mega) - church?
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Mick — What safeguards should the potential new pastor require when being interviewed? Safe-guards which would protect the newly hired minister from unrealistic work expectations; from the disgruntled who might try to have him dismissed.
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Raymond — How does a pastor/minister/leader of a church help and guide a team/committee of volunteers when that group refuses to be helped/guided?
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Sean — How do you follow a long-tenured, well-beloved pastor in a church of any size? It seems to me the guy who follows the "legend", doesn't seem to last very long before he's fired or gives up and resigns. I've seen this many times where the transition doesn't go very well. What can the "new" hire do to help keep things going well?

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Resources

  • Robert Wuthnow - Faith and Giving
  • Albert Mohler - Theological Triage

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Podcast Episode #126

Discussion about Church Answers, a new monthly subscription program for church staff and leaders to go deeper into the topics we cover on the blog and podcast. You can find out more about how to be involved with Church Answers at ChurchAnswers.com/subscribe.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church staff should be leading by example by focusing on ministering to people outside of the church.
  • We get used to seeing things a certain way and don't realize obvious problems because of our comfort.
  • When there is serious conflict between staff members, there is a serious unity problem that can affect the entire church.
  • The two main causes for church staff conflict are conflicting vision and poor communication.
  • It is a sin to be good when God has called you to be great.
  • Churches who are not praying will become churches who are dying.

The five obstacles to breaking attendance barriers in the local church are:

  • Leadership that is not outwardly focused.
  • Failure to understand space issues.
  • Failure to get an outside perspective.
  • Staff conflict.
  • Failure to emphasize group and corporate prayer.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Church Answers
  • I Am a Church Member
  • The Church at Spring Hill
  • When Church Staff Turn Against Each Other
  • Breakout Churches

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Podcast Episode #125

Moral failures can be devastating to a church and to a church staff. Today, we cover nine specific ways to deal with this often cataclysmic event in the life of a church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There is an inclination to keep quiet when things go wrong in a church, but that often hurts more than helps.
  • Christ-like grace is forgiving but it understands that sin has its consequences.
  • The transition from denial to anger is often quick in the wake of a crisis.
  • It typically takes at least a year for a church to recover from a moral failure on staff.
  • The pastor can become an easy target for misdirected anger after a crisis in a church.
  • Once a moral failure has occurred on a church staff, the church's character is redefined.
  • There are few occurrences in the church which require greater leadership than when dealing with moral failure on staff.

The nine keys to surviving a moral failure on church staff are:

  • Be as transparent as possible.
  • Understand the different parties impacted by the failure.
  • Demonstrate grace in the midst of fallenness.
  • Understand that the church will go through the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
  • Be prepared to be the object of anger.
  • Recovery and acceptance is usually longer than we anticipate.
  • The church will likely lose members.
  • The church's character is redefined.
  • Strong leadership is required.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Nine Stupid Things I Did as a Pastor
  • Church Answers

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Podcast Episode #124

Leading change is one of the most difficult things pastors and church leaders will do in a church. But it's also one of the most needed things in many churches. So how a pastor or church leads through change will dramatically affect the results churches will have when changing. Today, we cover the five most common mistakes made when leading change. We also talk about elephants. Yes, elephants.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Many times, new pastors or leaders in a church make change before earning trust from the church.
  • Communication is not just telling others what needs to be done, but listening to them as well.
  • The more a leader listens, the more he or she earns trust.
  • When leading change, there must be a sense of urgency.
  • Bullet tests are often more beneficial in churches than a shotgun approach.
  • Fear is the last thing you need when initiating change in the church.

The five most common mistakes church leaders make when leading change are:

  • Failure to earn trust.
  • Not understanding the right pace.
  • Failure to articulate the need and the urgency.
  • Failure to form an informal alliance.
  • Not launching new initiatives as a trial run.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Church Answers
  • Napoleons's Rule of Thirds
  • Cosco & Associates
  • Visioneering Studios

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Podcast Episode #123

Not every church can provide every possible benefit listed in today's podcast for their staff. But most—if not all—churches can provide at least some of these. Extra benefits like the ones we cover today can foster staff and church unity, boost staff morale, and, as a result, increase the effectiveness of the staff and church. These benefits are worth considering for every church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches need to do their part in providing retirement options for staff; and staff need to save for retirement.
  • I would like to see more churches provide meal reimbursements for staff to build relationships with others.
  • Many position titles are antiquated. They reflect neither the value of the position nor an accurate representation of it.
  • Free babysitting for church staff is a tremendous blessing to staff families with kids.
  • When your church provides monetary or non-monetary benefits, you are telling the staff they are loved.

Ten Monetary Benefits Churches Can Provide:

  • Retirement
  • Insurance
  • Sabbaticals
  • Book allowance
  • Conference budget
  • Education reimbursement
  • Staff retreats
  • Meal reimbursement for ministry
  • Cell phone and mileage reimbursement
  • Gifts for the spouse

Eight Non-Salary Benefits Churches Can Provide:

  • A consistent day off
  • Bonus time off
  • Daycare/school if the church has one
  • Free registration for church events/meals
  • Extra books and other material you own
  • Share gifts
  • A position title that reflects the value of the ministry
  • Babysitting

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Guidestone.org
  • Five Reasons Your Pastor Should Take a Sabbatical
  • Developing a Healthy Church Staff

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Podcast Episode #122

This week I am excited to have Michael Hyatt on the podcast. Michael is the author of the New York Times bestseller, Platform: Get Noticed in a Noisy World. It is also a Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and Amazon bestseller. He's also the former Chairman and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers. Michael now writes, speaks, and coaches full-time. He lives just outside Nashville, is married, and has five daughters.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Social media has created an unprecedented opportunity for people to have access to and be influenced by Christian leaders.
  • Twitter is an opportunity for you to be a resource to other people.
  • If your church doesn't have a website, it doesn't exist. People won't take you seriously because they think you don’t care.
  • Consistency is more important than frequency when it comes to blogging.
  • Social media is both an insight station and an influence station.
  • If you're going to be active in social media, you need something to fill the well so that you have something to give out.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Platform: Get Noticed in a Noisy World
  • Platform University
  • Church Answers
  • @MichaelHyatt
  • BestYearEver.me
  • MichaelHyatt.com
  • This Is Your Life Podcast
  • Undone: Making Peace with an Unexpected Life
  • How Much Business Is Your Profanity Costing You?
  • RayEdwards.com

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Podcast Episode #121

Church unity, frankly, is lacking in too many of our churches today. Church splits, fights, and bickering are far too common. So today on the podcast, we look at eight simple steps that can help preserve church unity. These aren't an overnight fix, but they can set your church on a trajectory to promoting unity in the fellowship.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One of the major concerns in the church today is church unity.
  • Corporate worship gatherings in the church should be focused on prayer and the ministry of the Word.
  • A denomination will not be unified as long as the churches within it are not unified themselves.
  • Where two or more Baptists are gathered, there are three or more opinions.
  • Most disagreements in the church happen over the way things are done, not why they are done.
  • When you start comparing your church to others, you tear down the unity in your church.
  • The more you focus on prayer and Scripture, the more you'll bring the church together in unity.
  • The more the Body of Christ comes together in selflessness, the more unified a church will become.

The eight steps to church unity we cover in this podcast are:

  • Make prayer and Scripture the focus of corporate gatherings
  • Preach and teach about church unity
  • Put others before yourself
  • Talk to people, not about people
  • Be a part of the change you want to see
  • Stand up for the leadership of the church
  • Be willing to not get your way if it means advancing the mission
  • Don't compare your church to the one down the street or across town

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • 12 Reasons Churches Don’t Practice Church Discipline

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Podcast Episode #120

Effective pastors are grounded in the ministry of the Word and in prayer. And in today's podcast we build on that foundation with seven principles of highly effective pastors.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors who are really effective will have tough days but will have an unending passion for God's work.
  • The identity of a pastor should not be in being a pastor. It should be in Christ.
  • Effective evangelistic churches have effective evangelistic pastors.
  • If you are in a position of leadership, you will be criticized.
  • It is hard to love a critic when you are not praying for the critic.
  • Pastors need to be in the Bible daily to hear from God personally, not just for sermon prep.
  • Longevity doesn't always result in effectiveness, but short term pastorates often lack effectiveness.

The seven characteristics of highly effective pastors which we cover on the podcast are:

  • They have genuine enthusiasm.
  • They are great listeners.
  • Their identity is not their vocation.
  • They are intentional about personal witnessing.
  • They have unconditional love of their critics.
  • They have a gentle spirit.
  • They persevere.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Pastoral Longevity, featuring Mike Glenn
  • Why Pastors Often Leave Their Church in the Third Year
  • The Lifecycle of Pastors

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Podcast Episode #119

Staff unity is a critical component of church unity. A healthy staff usually serves a healthy church. So today on the podcast, we discuss 10 keys to building a healthy staff.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There are a number of church staffs who, for some reason, do not pray together.
  • When there is an issue with a church staff member, talk TO them not ABOUT them.
  • The healthiest mentoring takes place informally.
  • Comparing individual ministries in a church to one another can be demoralizing to a minister and fracturing to the church.
  • Just as one member of the Body is as important as the next, so one ministry of the church is as important as the next.

The 10 keys we cover in this podcast are:

  • Pray as a staff
  • Brag to the congregation about the staff
  • Don't complain to church members about other staff
  • Meet one-on-one at least a few times a year
  • View the staff as a team instead of as individuals
  • Get together outside of work hours
  • Don't compare ministry growth
  • Be willing to pitch in when needed—don't make other staff ask for help
  • Don't treat one ministry as more important than others
  • Realize each ministry is component of the entire ministry of the church

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #118

Church bullies are a real problem in many—if not all—churches. While you can attempt to safeguard your church through membership classes and high expectations, you will likely have to deal with a church bully at some point in your ministry. In today's episode, we discuss what to do with church bullies and even how to prevent them from doing damage in a church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Most church bullies would never think that they are bullies.
  • Church bullies rarely work alone. They make alliances to attempt to control the church.
  • High expectation churches are less likely to have problems with church bullies.
  • Low expectation churches lead to bullying because you don't have strong members to stand up to them.
  • Church membership classes often weed out church bullies at the beginning.
  • Bullies are always active in shaping a church to their preferences.

Here are the nine traits of church bullies we discussed on the podcast:

  • They do not recognize themselves as bullies.
  • They have personal and self-serving agendas.
  • They seek to form power alliances with weak members in the church.
  • They tend to have intense and emotional personalities.
  • They are famous for saying “people are saying.”
  • They find their greatest opportunities in low expectation churches.
  • They are allowed to bully because church members will not stand up to them.
  • They create chaos and wreak havoc. A church bully always has his next mission.
  • They often move to other churches after they have done their damage.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Nine Traits of Church Bullies
  • Nine Ways to Deal with Church Bullies
  • I Am a Church Member
  • I Will
  • One Sentence That Pastors and Church Staff Hate to Hear

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Podcast Episode #117

In may seem confusing, but most pastors leave their church in the third year and the average length of a pastorate is 3.6 years. Today we explain the math behind that and the reasons for it. I also answer the question "should the expectation of church growth be placed on a new pastor?"

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Pastors most often leave a church while in their third year.
  • When seeking a pastor, most churches say they want to change—but often really don't want to.
  • Sometimes, the most vocal supporters of a pastor in the beginning turn out to be the most challenging members later.
  • It usually takes around five years for a church to see a new pastor as "our pastor."
  • When you are in the throes of a crisis, it feels as if the crisis will last forever.
  • New pastors should not be expected to grow the church but instead be expected to fulfill the Great Commission.

The seven topics we cover in this podcast are:

  • The average pastor lasts at each church for 3.6 years
  • From honeymoon to warts - The first five years
  • Dreams are not fulfilled - Both for the church and the pastor
  • Green grass syndrome
  • When the true friends (or not) show themselves
  • The "golden" years: 5+
  • A need for clear expectations

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • The Grass Isn't Always Greener Podcast

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Podcast Episode #116

Salary is always a hot topic here on the blog and the podcast. And today we tackle a question we often receive: how to set a fair pastoral salary. Most churches handle this well, but many often struggle when deciding on what to pay new staff or even how much more existing staff should make. Most importantly, minister salaries should be handled with grace and fairness.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Demographics of the church and the surrounding community play important roles in setting a pastor's salary.
  • Education has come down slightly as a driving factor for setting a pastoral salary.
  • A spouse's compensation should never be taken into consideration when setting a minister's salary.
  • Men and women in similar ministerial roles with equal education and experience should be paid comparably.
  • Most pastors struggle financially. The extravagant pastor is the exception, not the norm.
  • Churches should use compensation studies and other tools to help determine the range of pay for ministers.

Here are six simple guidelines for setting a fair pastoral salary which we discussed on the podcast:

  • Usually starts with previous salaries: former pastor and incoming pastor.
  • Demographics of church and community.
  • The education factor
  • The problem with "packages"
  • The problem with counting spouse's pay
  • Overriding principle: Be gracious

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Five Most Common Ways Churches Determine Pastors’ Salaries
  • Seven Reasons the Pastor’s Salary Can Be a Source of Tension
  • Ministers Can Continue Using the Housing Allowance Per Court Ruling
  • Minister Compensation Database
  • The Minister's Salary

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Podcast Episode #115

Church budgets can often be the source of much contention and even more confusion. It doesn't have to be this way though. Knowing the basics of the budget and communicating the budget well to church members can eliminate a great deal of contention and confusion. So today on the podcast, we tackle the basics of church budgets.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • A church budget has to have clarity if it is to be healthy at all.
  • If you want a healthy church budget, make as much money available for ministry as possible.
  • Debt can be a tremendous hindrance to churches, but is often necessary for growth.
  • There is no reason even for a small church to not have some kind of budgeting software.
  • Quarterly church budget reporting is often the most effective practice.
  • Pastors should have help with church budgets, but also need to know the basics.

The seven topics we cover in this podcast are:

  • Budgets need to have clarity
  • Understand the three main categories: facilities; personnel; ministry
  • Understand the problem with percentages
  • Understand the impact of debt
  • There is a need for pastors and staff to understand budgets
  • Frequency of reporting depends on the church and polity

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Five Things Church Leaders Need to Know about Ministry Finance

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Podcast Episode #114

Pastors likely face one or more of these tensions every week, and sometimes on a daily basis. Most of these tensions are not between good and bad choices, but between two good choices. But the tensions exist regardless. And how a pastor handles them can be critical to the amount of effectiveness and satisfaction a pastor finds in ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Bivocational pastors and church staff are my heroes.
  • Pastoral ministry is a 24/7 vocation.
  • Most pastors rarely are able to say "no."
  • Ministry in the community by pastors and church staff is rarely seen by church members.
  • How much time a pastor spends in the office vs. the community is always a tension.
  • Sometimes we neglect the "best" because we are busy doing the "good."
  • The time most often neglected for pastors is that spent with non-Christians in the community.

The nine tensions every pastor faces are:

  • Family time versus church time.
  • Office time versus time in the community.
  • Being a people pleaser versus being a good steward.
  • Visiting for crisis needs versus visiting for commonplace needs.
  • Counseling versus referral.
  • Spending time with church members versus spending time with non-Christians.
  • Local church ministry versus other ministries.
  • Being prophetic versus being positive.
  • Long-term perspective versus short-term perspective.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • 10 Tips for Pastoral Care Visits
  • Nine Common Tensions Pastors Face

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Podcast Episode #113

The world around us is constantly changing. The Word of God, however, is not. We are still called to identify, raise up, and train the next generation of leaders in our churches. So today, we look at ministry training in the local church and how it is changing and becoming more and more accessible to both those pursuing vocational ministry options as well as all Christians looking to grow in their faith.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There is a false perception that theological education is only for vocational church staff.
  • Every Christian should be theologically trained.
  • One of the main purposes of small groups and Sunday School should be theological education.
  • Seminaries and traditional, formal theological education are still very valuable.
  • Churches—not seminaries—should be producing vocational ministers. Seminaries should then be training them.
  • Raising up the next generation of ministers and missionaries is the responsibility of the church, not seminaries.

The seven topics we cover in this podcast are:

  • Theology is important for all Christ-followers, not just church staff
  • Sunday School and Small Group Discipleship is a regular form of theological education
  • Special extended seminars and training are commonplace (Secret Church & others)
  • Online education has made theological education more accessible to laity
  • Seminaries are partnering with local churches for on-site teaching
  • Pastoral apprenticeships can train both theologically and methodologically
  • Local churches should seek to raise up the next generation of theologians and ministers

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • The Gospel Project
  • Ministry Grid
  • Liberty University
  • Criswell College

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Podcast Episode #112

Recently on the blog, I wrote about the emerging trend of annual renewal of church membership. While most churches are not ready for such a change, many are moving forward with this trend and have seen—in many cases—positive results. The churches who execute this process well often see growth in giving, attendance, ministry, and missions. So today on the podcast, we look at this trend and explain why it's working for so many churches.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church membership renewal goes contrary to where most churches are headed.
  • Most churches do not change well.
  • Incremental change is necessary to lead big changes in the church.
  • Younger churches accept change easier than established churches because the historical barriers just don't exist.
  • It takes most pastors at least five years to build enough trust in a church in order to make significant changes.
  • Accountability is key, more than anything else, on the issue of follow-up.

The 10 aspects of annual church membership renewal we covered were:

  • The early signs are that this practice can be a healthy move for a church.
  • Proceed with great caution. Most churches are not ready for annual membership renewal.
  • Incrementalism is necessary in most churches.
  • Membership classes are key.
  • Do not proceed with this process until you have seen it in other churches.
  • Communication is vital.
  • Younger churches tend to handle this change better than older churches.
  • Longer-tenured pastors are typically more able to lead this change.
  • Expect opposition. Annual membership presents significant change in most churches.
  • Follow-up is crucial.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Renewing Membership in Your Church - Video Series with Ryan Whitley
  • CrossPoint Church - Trussville, AL
  • Leading Change
  • How Churches Count Attendance

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Podcast Episode #111

This week, we welcome back a great friend of the podcast, Keith Getty. Fourteen years ago this Easter, In Christ Alone was debuted at an event in England. Now it is one of the most sung hymns not just on Easter, but every Sunday throughout the year. Keith stopped by to talk Easter, composing, hymns, and what's up next for the Gettys. As an extra bonus, we've included free chord chart downloads of a collection of Getty hymns as well as a raw cut of their latest hymn below.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • We have to sing of Christ's death and resurrection because in many ways, that's all we have (Gal 6:14).
  • Use Easter as a chance to sing great songs about the Cross and resurrection.
  • Each Sunday of the year, our songs should be shaped by the gospel—not just on Easter.
  • Great hymns sings simply. Like you've sung them all your life.
  • The challenge as a songwriter is to create something beautifully unique yet theologically rich.
  • For some, this weekend will be their only connection with the gospel this year.

In this episode, Keith listed his top five Easter hymns:

  • Jesus Christ Is Risen Today
  • To Thine Be the Glory
  • Crown Him with Many Crowns
  • When I Survey the Wondrous Cross
  • What Wondrous Love Is This

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • The Getty Collection - Music charts courtesy lifewayworship.com and includes:

  • In Christ Alone

  • My Soul Longs for the Lord
  • My Worth Is Not in What I Own
  • The Communion Hymn
  • The Power of the Cross
  • See What a Morning
  • Christ Is Risen He Is Risen Indeed

  • My Soul Longs for the Lord

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Podcast Episode #110

We will cover a recent post from Chuck Lawless on pastoral burdens.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • 70% of churches in America are declining.
  • Many times pastors determine their self-worth by how their church is doing numerically.
  • Pastors are often unfairly blamed for the moral failure of a staff member.
  • It's hard for pastors to have friends in the church because friends are perceived as favorites.
  • The "arms race" regarding church facilities over the past few decades has been counterproductive in many ways.
  • Overcoming burdens in ministry and life heavily depends on where your focus lies—on Christ or on something lesser.

The 12 most frequent burdens pastors face are:

  • Declining church growth.
  • Losing the support of friends.
  • Grieving a fall.
  • Sensing that the sermon went nowhere.
  • Losing vision.
  • Being lonely.
  • Dealing with unsupportive staff.
  • Remembering failures.
  • Dealing with death recurrently.
  • Facing personal jealousies.
  • Balancing family and ministry priorities.
  • Responding to criticism.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • 10 Things You Shouldn’t Say to a Pastor Right After the Sermon
  • The Most Frequent Burdens Pastors Face
  • The Most Frequent Burdens Church Staff Face
  • Pastors Today

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Podcast Episode #109

We constantly receive questions from listeners of the podcast and readers of the blog and use those questions to frame the content here at ThomRainer.com. Today we use a question from a listener to jump into a discussion about what to do when a staff member leaves.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The nature of ministry is relationship-driven.
  • The most expensive hire you'll ever make is the wrong one.
  • Don't assume that you can communicate too much.
  • If you were starting from scratch, would you need the same staff at your church?
  • In most of our churches across North America, our processes are ineffective.
  • Circumventing the pastor's buy-in when hiring a staff member is often a recipe for disaster.

Our nine suggestions for churches looking to hire a new pastor or staff member are:

  • Understand that a natural time of grief is needed
  • Over-communicate the process and timeline
  • Evaluate if the needs for that position have changed
  • Explain carefully the process to look for a replacement
  • Don't rush into hiring
  • Consider new methods of search
  • Get buy-in from key leaders (formal and informal)
  • Regardless of the process, the pastor must have buy-in
  • Background checks have changed and are mandatory

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Podcast Episode #108

I recently conducted an informal Twitter poll and asked what keeps Christians from evangelizing. The results were overwhelming and led to a blog post that generated quite a discussion. Today, we go deeper into that post and the comments that came from it.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • For those in ministry, you have to be intentional about having relationships with non-Christians.
  • Evangelism is an intentional effort.
  • Inviting people to church should not be the totality of our personal evangelism strategy.
  • Evangelism is not solely the role of pastors and church staff. It is the role of all Christians.
  • The problem of unregenerate membership is significant in our churches.
  • It is a sin to be good when God has called us to be great.

The main reasons Christians do not evangelize are:

  • Christians have no sense of urgency to reach lost people.
  • Many Christians and church members do not befriend and spend time with lost persons.
  • Many Christians and church members are lazy and apathetic.
  • We are more known for what we are against than what we are for.
  • Our churches have an ineffective evangelistic strategy of “you come” rather than “we go.”
  • Many church members think that evangelism is the role of the pastor and paid staff.
  • Church membership today is more about getting my needs met rather than reaching the lost.
  • Church members are in a retreat mode as culture becomes more worldly and unbiblical.
  • Many church members don’t really believe that Christ is the only way of salvation.
  • Our churches are no longer houses of prayer equipped to reach the lost.
  • Churches have lost their focus on making disciples who will thus be equipped and motivated to reach the lost.
  • Christians do not want to share the truth of the gospel for fear they will offend others. Political correctness is too commonplace even among Christians.
  • Most churches have unregenerate members who have not received Christ themselves.
  • Our churches have too many activities; they are too busy to do the things that really matter.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Evangelism in the Early Church
  • Four Thoughts from Non-Christians about Christians
  • Multiply

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Podcast Episode #107

For too long, many churches have not only been technologically deficient, but technologically averse. But many churches are now catching up through several different methods. On today's episode, we cover nine specific areas of technology that every church should consider using.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • There are people who will never attend some churches because the church websites are bad or lacking basic information.
  • Every church should be on social media to some degree.
  • Your church will miss a lot of stewardship opportunities if it does not have online giving available.
  • Customized curriculum is just another way the digital revolution is taking place in our churches.
  • Customized curriculum used to be cost prohibitive, but SmallGroup.com has made it accessible to all churches.
  • The technological world is a mission field for churches, and we need to be there.

The nine technological trends every church should consider are:

  • An effective, well-designed church website
  • Involvement in social media
  • Using the internet to find staff
  • Communication to church members through email and mass texting
  • Virtual staffing
  • Online giving
  • Customized curriculum
  • Training leaders
  • Video announcements

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • eaHELP
  • Seven Reasons Pastors May Need a Virtual Assistant
  • SmallGroup.com
  • Ministry Grid

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Podcast Episode #106

Many churches are averse to change when it comes to traditions. And pastors and church leaders often realize problem areas too late. So today on the podcast, we cover the ten most fiercely defended traditions in the church and discuss ways in which you can enact change if and when it is needed.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Worship and music style are not as divisive as they once were.
  • Items related the worship service (time, structure, elements, etc.) are the hardest to change in a church.
  • One of the ways that change can be implemented in a church is through a sense of urgency.
  • Smaller churches tend to have more expectations for pastors than larger churches.
  • Many churches have too many committees and non-functioning committees.
  • Business meetings have become a source of division in churches rather than one of direction.

The 10 most fiercely defended traditions are:

  • Worship and music style.
  • Order of worship service.
  • Times of worship service(s).
  • Role of the pastor.
  • Committee structure.
  • Specific ministries and programs.
  • Location of church facility.
  • Use of specific rooms.
  • Business meetings.
  • Staff ministry descriptions.

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Hold on Tight to Your Dreams - ELO
  • Leading Change — John Kotter
  • Simple Church
  • Is It Time to Rethink Church Business Meetings?

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Podcast Episode #105

Many times when we think about multisite, we think big churches. But now smaller churches are going multisite too. In fact, multisite is becoming almost as common as multiservice. So today on the podcast, we address this growing trend and explain why all churches—both big and small—should be considering multisite as an option.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Church trends are moving away from the large (1,000+) worship gathering.
  • There are a number of dying churches who are willing to be acquired and become another site of an existing church.
  • By retrofitting existing space instead of buying and building, the cost to go multisite can be significantly reduced.
  • One major key to successful multisite expansion is to have the right leadership in place.
  • There is simply not a good argument to support claims that "we don't need another church in town."
  • Some of the greatest resistance to going multisite is often not from the community but from within the church itself.

The 6 reasons churches need to consider multisite are:

  • Millennials moving away from large worship gatherings
  • Governmental restrictions on building and land
  • Difficulty in finding large plots of land
  • Acquisition of churches
  • Can take advantage of existing facilities (can be cheaper)
  • Reach people main campus would never reach

Episode Sponsor
Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Viral Churches
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Middle Tennessee Initiative

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Podcast Episode #104

I recently wrote a blog post on what church members say to their pastors right before they preach. It was surprisingly popular so we went a bit deeper into the discussion today.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It makes it really difficult to preach after someone has criticized you just moments before the sermon starts.
  • Many pastors are focused on the message right before the service.
  • This is typically an issue more in smaller churches than larger ones.
  • The mindset of a pastor right before preaching is typically one of prayerful focus.

The six points from the blogpost that we cover today were:

  • The time right before pastors preach is a time of prayerful focus for them.
  • If you speak to the pastor at that time, consider giving a word of encouragement or prayer support.
  • Consider holding back any criticisms of your pastor right before the sermon.
  • Consider holding back your request of your pastor to make an announcement.
  • Consider asking someone other than your pastor to handle a problem right before the sermon.
  • If possible, consider introducing people to your pastor after the sermon.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • Six Observations about Speaking to Pastors Right Before They Preach
  • How to Make Announcements in Worship Services

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Podcast Episode #103

A new members class is critical to informing prospective new members of information and expectations related to your church. In fact, I would suggest every church have a new members class. And today, we explain why its needed and how your church can benefit from it.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Typically, the more you expect from someone, the more you will get from them.
  • The backdoor of our churches is as big as it is today because we've set low expectations in the past.
  • New members who connect with a small group are nearly five times more likely to stay at a church than those who don't.
  • The more people know about a church and the more they are involved in a church, the more they feel a sense of belonging.
  • Church vision statements should be simple, short, and memorable.
  • You should offer ministry service opportunities to new members as soon as they join a church.
  • Being a part of a church means being a good steward financially.
  • The most effective new members classes are offered in one sitting.
  • One of the greatest evangelistic tools you have is your new members class.

The 10 reasons churches need a new members class are because this class...

  • Informs the member
  • Sets expectations
  • Moves members to small groups
  • Defines doctrine and polity
  • Closes the back door
  • Introduces staff
  • Clarifies vision or mission
  • Defines ministry opportunities
  • Establishes stewardship expectations
  • Provides guidance in the facilities

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Resources

  • High Expectation Churches
  • I Am a Church Member
  • Hunter Street Baptist Church

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Podcast Episode #102

The listeners of the podcast help us shape the content and topics with their questions and comments. So we always enjoy episodes in which we can touch on several questions that have come in. Today, we tackle everything from mentoring to building vision to connection cards to staff hiring.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • One of the first things a new pastor should do is to develop relationships within the new church.
  • When seeking a mentor, find someone with whom you can connect and trust.
  • What makes music in the church worshipful are the lyrics, so they must be understandable.
  • After pastor and worship leader, the "next hire" for a church is now becoming a children's minister.
  • Kids can't drive, so if you're going to offer robust children's programming, have the same for adults as well.
  • Bringing people in the right way through the front door of the church is the best way to shut the back door.
  • Building a vision should involve buy-in and collaboration.

Questions Covered in This Episode
Kris asks:
One concern I have in pursuing pastoral ministry is my ability as a millennial to shepherd an established church and make changes without getting burned out by resistance. What would you say would make this less scary---and what does longevity in a pastorate contribute to being able to make major changes as a senior pastor?
Dennis asks:
How does a new pastor or someone fairly new to ministry leadership select mentors? Is it important to stay within your denomination, or is it possible to glean knowledge from those outside your denomination? Would this lead to being seen as ecumenical or compromising?
Joel asks:
We have seen an increase in Connection Cards turned in, but we are still only collecting about cards from 1/3 of our guests. As a church we do not want to have everyone fill out connection cards every Sunday, but we do encourage everyone to use it to share prayer requests or change info or give new info to staff. What are some strategies we can use to increase our percentage of guests filling out the card and turning it in?
Phil
Our music director says that the excellence of the music comes first; if the words are incomprehensible, tough luck. Possible solutions?
Ron
For a church of 225 adults, what third staff member should a church consider to enhance growth?
Tim
I have heard it said that those who leave are likely to never come back. Should we try to visit them and try to get them to come back?
Don
How do you build synergy, focus, and vision within a church staff?

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  • Pastoral Longevity, featuring Mike Glenn
  • Obstacles in the Established Church
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Podcast Episode #101

We get questions from listeners every day for advice and with suggested podcast topics. Recently, a question about Millennials stood out so we used it to jump into our discussion in this episode about reaching Millennials. Doug asked:
What is being done or what should be done to broaden the scope of age to bring younger leaders to the table and therefore inspire them to invest more, be devoted and committed to promoting initiatives that we say we believe will change the world for Christ?
Some highlights from the episode include:

  • Anyone who is intentional about reaching others for Christ will reach more than those who are not. Intentionality is a must.
  • Churches need to understand that Millennials have different views than previous generations on social issues.
  • When Millennials look at a potential church, ministries and opportunities for their kids are major deciding factors.
  • If you want to reach a generation who cares about their children, the church must care about their children as well.
  • Millennials want to have intentional mentors to come along beside them.
  • Churches must offer Millennials opportunities to serve and to lead. Don't make them "wait their turn."
  • If your church is relying on the worship style or architecture to reach Millennials, you're relying on the wrong thing.

The six keys for churches to reach Millennials are:

  • Be intentional in engaging & understanding them
  • Be authentic
  • Offer ministries for their family and children
  • Offer to mentor them
  • Offer opportunities for them to serve and to lead.
  • Have a presence in the community.

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Resources

  • The Millennials
  • The Millennials Podcast featuring Jess Rainer

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Podcast Episode #100

Recording this podcast is one of the highlights of my week. And it's hard to believe we have made it to episode #100. Thanks to you, the listeners, for making this possible. To celebrate the occasion, we invited my pastor, Mike Glenn, to be our guest for this episode.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The role of the pastor is not to come in with a vision, it's to give birth to the vision God has already given to the church.
  • Transformation doesn't happen in a microwave oven. It's a slow, deliberate process.
  • Big visions are realized through small steps.
  • There's something about all of us together that reveals the greatness of God that can't be realized individually.
  • Too many pastors end up being David in Saul's armor.
  • We live in a time when the ministry often has to come before the message.
  • Hire slowly. Make sure when you hire someone that they match your culture and DNA.

About Mike Glenn
Mike Glenn is a graduate of Samford University and Southern Seminary. He's pastored churches in South Carolina and Tennessee and became the pastor of Brentwood Baptist Church in 1991. Under his leadership, the church has grown to a membership of over 9,000 and now has a total five campuses. He and his wife of 34 years, Jeannie, have two adult sons.
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Resources

  • Brentwood Baptist Church
  • The Deaf Church
  • Middle Tennessee Initiative
  • Mike Glenn Online
  • Kairos

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Podcast Episode #099

Pastoral care visits are a lost art for many pastors and church leaders. While not limited to pastors making them, these visits are often expected—or even required—for church staff. So today, we cover how to make these visits and proper hospital visitation etiquette. I also tell the story of first funeral I ever conducted, which might have been my most embarrassing moment ever in ministry.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Hospital visits or visiting others in the midst of tragedy shouldn't be limited to just church staff.
  • The larger the church is or becomes, the more impossible it becomes for one person to take care of all pastoral visits.
  • In many churches, the pastor is still expected to make all pastoral care visits.
  • It is more common today to have an appointment before making any in-home visits for the church.
  • Don't wear out your welcome when making pastoral care visits. Brevity is generally best.
  • Pastors can often receive unfair criticism if someone other that the pastor makes pastoral care visits.

The 10 tips for successful pastoral care visits are:

  • There are many types of pastoral visits: hospital; homebound; nursing home; tragedy; prospective member; funeral home; member visits; and others.
  • After a church passes 100 in attendance, it becomes physically impossible for one person to take care of all pastoral visits.
  • Learn where appointments are preferred.
  • Brevity is generally better.
  • Balance unreasonable expectations with a pastoral heart.
  • Learn the community context.
  • Know the proper etiquette for a hospital visit: knock; ask permission; don't sit on the bed; respect doctors and nurses; brevity is better; ask how to pray.
  • Learn as much as you can about pastoral visit expectations before you go to a church.
  • Equip others: staff, elders, deacons, other laity.
  • Handle awkward moments with grace.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization and online consultations. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Podcast Episode #098

Announcements in the church service may seem like a trivial issue. But for many churches, they carry great importance in how they are made, when they are made, and by whom they are made. So today, Jonathan and I explore this topic and how it relates to churches communicating what's important for their congregation to know.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • In churches, redundancy of communication is important.
  • I went to a church service recently and a business meeting broke out.
  • Announcements made during a worship service are often of utmost importance and for large audiences.
  • Pastors are often pressured to make certain announcements for certain people in the church.
  • Announcements made by the pastor from the pulpit carry more weight and emphasis than others.
  • The placements, style, and vehicle for announcements is a major issue of how a church communicates.

The nine observations about announcements in worship services are:

  • More church leaders do not think announcements should be a part of the worship services.
  • Large churches (700 and up in average worship attendance) are highly unlikely to have announcements as a part of the worship service.
  • Smaller churches (under 200 in average worship attendance) are very likely to include announcements as a traditional part of the worship service.
  • Video or projected announcements have grown commensurate with the growth of projected lyrics during the worship music.
  • With greater frequency, pastors limit making announcements unless they are a major or visional issue.
  • More congregations limit announcements before or during the worship services to those issues that affect most or all of the congregants.
  • Many pastors are still asked to make announcements right before worship services begin.
  • Pastors also receive pressure from different groups and individuals to make certain their announcements are made.
  • Most church leaders believe that the retention rate of announcements by members is low.

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This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization and online consultations. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Podcast Episode #097

Preparing to preach a sermon, or multiple sermons, each week is the most daunting and most important thing a pastor does as the shepherd of a church. So this week, we cover some essential practices for pastors to employ that will aid in sermon preparation.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Preaching should be one of the highest priorities in the ministry of a pastor.
  • Worship leaders love pastors who communicate what they are going to preach and when.
  • If you try to do sermon prep in your margins of time, you'll never have enough time and the sermons will suffer.
  • What gets calendared gets done. — Michael Hyatt
  • Add an extra 20% of time to your sermon prep time to have margin for emergencies.
  • Set a sermon completion target date. Try to make that earlier in the week to account for issues that may come up in the church.

The 9 keys for successful sermon preparation are:

  • Make it a priority
  • Determine your comfort level with planning in advance
  • Let your congregation know of the priority
  • Put it in your calendar
  • Allocate 20% more time than you think you will need
  • Allocate your time according to your study plan: reading the text, draft, commentaries, etc.
  • Determine a completion day: ex: done by Thursday
  • Be prepared to change
  • Don't leave out prayer

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization and online consultations. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • WORDsearch
  • Six Observations about Speaking to Pastors Right Before They Preach

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Podcast Episode #096

Bivocational pastors and church staff are my heroes. While there may be part-time pay involved, the job of ministry is always full-time. And those who work full-time in their secular jobs and still minister to and lead a local community of faith.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Bivocational pastors and staff have evangelism opportunities full-time staff do not.
  • Being a bivocational pastor or staff member breaks you out of your holy huddle.
  • The digital workplace allows people to work on their own schedule and is an extremely viable option for being bivocational.
  • Churches often know they need more staff leadership but can't afford it. Bivocational leaders are a great option.
  • Bivocational ministry will only increase in the years ahead.

The eight reasons bivocational ministry can be beneficial are:

  • A secular or marketplace job will put you in the middle of culture on a regular basis.
  • Full-time pastors and church staff often get missionally stale in their “holy huddles.”
  • Smaller churches are increasingly unable to afford full-time pastors or staff.
  • The digital world is offering more opportunities for flexible secular jobs than ever.
  • More churches are moving toward multiple teaching/preaching pastors.
  • More churches would like to expand staff, but don’t have the resources to do so.
  • A bivocational pastor or church staff can have greater freedom than a person in a full-time role.
  • A bivocational pastor or staff person has transferrable skills.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the Autopsy of a Deceased Church. Whether your church is vibrant or dying, Autopsy of a Deceased Church will walk you through the radical paths necessary to keep your church alive to the glory of God and advancement of Christ's Kingdom!. Find out more at thomrainer.com/autopsy.
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Resources

  • Larry Osborne Podcast
  • Kyle Idleman Podcast

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Podcast Episode #095

Finding a job in ministry can be difficult if you're just sending out resume after resume to church after church. Not only can it be difficult, it can be downright discouraging and frustrating. So today, we cover 10 tips for finding jobs in a ministerial context as well as a few resume tips. Many of them also apply to finding jobs in a secular environment.

We also answer the question: When should I tell my boss I'm looking at another job?

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • You should make any employment change a matter of prayer.
  • Don't let your heart be in another job while you're still in your current job.
  • Pastors often don't realize how much the church website personally reflects on them.
  • If you include a picture with your ministerial resume, make it a professional one—not one with your dog.
  • When you are leaving a church staff, be positive and focus on the blessings you received while at the church.
  • Unfortunately in some churches, even looking for a new job can be seen a treasonous offense and might lead to firing.

The 10 keys for finding a job in ministry are:

  • Make it a matter of prayer
  • Don't let the next position distract you from the present position
  • Do well where you are
  • Stay connected with others
  • Remember the "big three": your sermon podcasts; church website; social media
  • Do your homework on other opportunities
  • Ask someone else to recommend you (but don't overdo it)
  • Be highly responsive when someone contacts you
  • Get coaching with your resume
  • Leave well

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization and online consultations. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • The Grass Isn’t Always Greener
  • Revitalized Churches - Church Website Video Consultation

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Podcast Episode #094

Having weekly posts here at the blog from Chuck Lawless has been a huge blessing to me. Not only because it takes some of the workload off of me to come up with another article for the week, but because Chuck has such a great perspective on the Church and shares some incredible insights. We've covered some of Chuck's articles in the past on the podcast, and in this episode we discuss a recent post on worship music distractions.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Millennials are looking for authenticity in the worship service.
  • The pastor is expected to have a well-prepared sermon. The music should be well-prepared as well.
  • Worship is more than just a sermon or just music. It's the totality of how we glorify God corporately.
  • There should be clear planning between the pastor and music leader to tie in the music with the sermon.
  • Most worship leaders are gifted with different types of music.
  • When the music in a church service is too loud, it can distract from the act of worship.

The 10 distractions are:

  • Incomprehensible choir or praise team words
  • Unsmiling faces leading worship
  • Poor musicians or singers
  • Unprepared singers
  • “Preachy” music directors
  • Songs disconnected from the sermon topic
  • Difficult songs to sing
  • Weak use of media for lyrics
  • Poorly done blended style
  • Introducing new songs without teaching them

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the Autopsy of a Deceased Church. Whether your church is vibrant or dying, Autopsy of a Deceased Church will walk you through the radical paths necessary to keep your church alive to the glory of God and advancement of Christ's Kingdom!. Find out more at thomrainer.com/autopsy.
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Resources

  • Don't Waste Your Christmas
  • LifeWay Worship

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Podcast Episode #093

Ministry finance is an area many pastors and church leaders lack adequate training. So today, Jonathan and I discuss five areas of finance of which every minister should be aware.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Churches shouldn't be focused on money, but without it, there will be no ministry.
  • Pastors should at least know the broad parameters of the church budget.
  • It's one thing to know what the budget is. It's another thing to know if you are meeting budget with receipts.
  • Debt (or the lack of it) can radically change how a church can (or cannot) fund ministry with its budget receipts.
  • If there's one financial ratio pastors need to know, it's the weekly per capita giving.
  • Church leaders should stop being so shy and discuss stewardship of money.

The five things to know about church finances are:

  • Know the church budget
  • Know actual receipts
  • Know personnel expenditures
  • Know facility costs
  • Know weekly per capita giving

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Podcast Episode #092

Trend prediction is both an art and a science. It is a science in the sense that I utilize the good objective research of credible research organizations like LifeWay Research and others. It is an art in that I depend on observations, anecdotal information, and ongoing interaction with church leaders and members.

At the beginning of every year, I attempt to present to you the major trends for congregations for the coming twelve months. I review my predictions from previous years to see how accurate I am. I have come to two conclusions. First, I am far from perfect in my predictions. Second, I do have a decent track record.

Some of my trends are called “tipping points.” Formally defined, a tipping point is the critical moment in an evolving situation that leads to a new and somewhat permanent reality. In simple terms, a tipping point here means that something has changed in our churches to the point that it appears to be permanent.

So this week, Jonathan and I cover my 15 trends for 2015.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • The Millennial generation is almost insisting on smaller worship gatherings.
  • A larger percentage of church attendees are attending larger churches.
  • The multi-teaching pastor trend we are seeing in churches is a healthy trend for pastors and churches.
  • In 2015, less than 5% of churches in America will continue to hold a separate Sunday evening service.
  • The majority of churches in America have been isolated from their community in recent years. But that is changing.
  • Denominations are becoming more streamlined with more money going to the mission field.
  • A church that does not put an emphasis on small groups is likely not a healthy church.

The 15 trends to look for in 2015 are:

  • More partnerships between denominations and churches.
  • Continued increased in the number of multi-site churches.
  • Smaller worship gatherings.
  • Continued flow of people from smaller churches to larger churches.
  • The tipping point for a plurality of teaching pastors.
  • The tipping point of churches eliminating Sunday evening worship services.
  • Congregations growing in favor in their respective communities.
  • The beginnings of prayer movement in our churches.
  • More emphasis on congregational singing.
  • More focus on theological education in local churches.
  • The waning and reconfiguration of denominational structures.
  • A rapid increase in bivocational church staff.
  • Increased difficulty in matching prospective pastors with churches with pastoral vacancies.
  • Growth of verbal incarnational evangelism.
  • The tipping point for small groups.

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Podcast Episode #091

Staff meetings can often turn into death by meeting. However, when led effectively, they are actually productivity by meeting. Today, we cover eight keys to leading a staff meeting well.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Every church should have some kind of information card to gather guest or member info and prayer requests.
  • Most meetings have a point of diminishing return at the 60-minute mark.
  • Don't meet for the sake of meeting. If you don't have agenda items, don't meet.
  • Consider the personalities in your meetings. Know who needs to be asked to share and who shares openly.
  • One of the reasons many view meetings with dread is because they don't feel like anything is accomplished.
  • Never end a meeting wondering "where do we go from here."

The eight keys to effectively leading a staff meeting are:

  • Begin with prayer.
  • Have a clear and disciplined starting and finishing time.
  • Take some early time to talk about personal and family issues.
  • Have a prepared agenda and stick with it.
  • Keep the meeting moving.
  • Allow for input.
  • Ask questions.
  • End each meeting with clarity, assignments, and deadlines.

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #090

We welcome Brad Lomenick to the podcast. In this episode, we cover a recent blog post Brad wrote, 10 Key Leadership Lessons I’ve Learned over the Last Year in Handing off Catalyst.

Brad Lomenick is an Oklahoma native and the former director of Catalyst, a movement of young leaders focused on equipping, inspiring, and releasing the next generation of young Christian leaders through events, resources, consulting, content and connecting a community of like-minded Catalysts all over the world. He is also the author of The Catalyst Leader released in April 2013, and will be releasing a follow up book in September of 2015 entitled H3 Leadership.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Type-A leaders often lose themselves in pursuit of purpose and the passion fades.
  • It’s easy for leaders to wrongly place their identity in what they do instead of who they are.
  • Your job is not your calling. Your calling is a purpose. Your job is an assignment.
  • Our work rhythms need to include rest as well.
  • A sign of a good leader is that those around you flourish as well.
  • A sigh of great leadership is that your fruit will grow on other people’s trees.

The 10 key leadership lessons we cover are:

  • I got my smile back.
  • What I do is not who I am.
  • Getting out of the way is part of my responsibility as a leader.
  • Calling is demonstrated and reflected by seasons, and specific assignments within that season.
  • Margin matters.
  • I’m not winning if the people closest to me and working with me and for me are not fully flourishing.
  • Pruning is not fun, but is required if you want to lead.
  • My leadership was stale.
  • Good fruit is required.
  • Faithfulness and stewardship is the measure of ultimate success.

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Resources

  • Catalyst
  • The Catalyst Leader
  • H3 Leadership
  • 10 Key Leadership Lessons I’ve Learned over the Last Year in Handing off Catalyst

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Podcast Episode #089

First impressions are important for churches. And on today's episode, we cover seven main areas in which your church can make improvements to improve the first impression you make to new guests.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • Guests will go to your website before coming to your church facility. Make sure location and service times are prominent.
  • Churches are notorious for clutter—they become a Goodwill store that doesn't sell anything.
  • Visitors who come to a church for the first time don't know where to go. They need signage.
  • Using a mystery guest once or twice a year can help you identify issues guests to your church may have.
  • Church facility issues can easily turn off guests.

The seven key improvements your church can make are:

  • Church web site.
  • Clean up clutter.
  • Landscaping.
  • Directional signage.
  • Restrooms: clean with signage.
  • Fresh paint.
  • Parking lot signage.

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Podcast Episode #088

Millennial pastors and prospective pastors are often hesitant to take pastorates at established churches. There are some legitimate concerns and good reasons for this hesitancy—which we cover in this episode. However, established churches can offer a great opportunity for ministry to many pastors. Millennials should not be so quick to write off working with or pastoring at established churches. And in this episode, we tell you why.

Some highlights from this today's episode include:

  • Established churches are often perceived by Millennials to not be missionally focused.
  • It's natural for any organization, especially churches, to turn toward an inward focus.
  • Denominational loyalty is fading, but denominational ties are still important.
  • Many established churches are not community-centric.
  • I'm thankful for the rising interest in church planting. But it shouldn't be done to the neglect of pastoring established churches.
  • Simply put, we cannot abandon established churches.
  • Pastors, don't go into a church, make a lot of changes, then leave. Stay to see the fruit of the changes.

Five Reasons Why Millennials Do Not Want to Be Pastors or Staff in Established Churches

  • Millennials perceive established churches to have values that are entrenched in non-missional traditions.
  • They perceive that much time in established churches is wasted catering to members’ personal preferences.
  • Many established churches are denominationally loyal; but many Millennials see denominations as antiquated organizations.
  • Millennials don’t see established churches as community-centric.
  • Millennials see church planting as a far superior alternative.

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  • I Am a Church Member
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Podcast Episode #087

I'm excited to announce the expansion of Rainer on Leadership from weekly to twice a week. Over the past 20 months, we've seen a tremendous response to the podcast with more than 300,000 downloads so far. When I'm out speaking, I am routinely asked to cover specific practical ministry topics more on the podcast. So these Tuesday episodes will do just that. In this week's episode and the Tuesday episodes in the future, Jonathan and I will discuss some of the nuts and bolts of ministry as we concentrate on practical issues that relate to the church.

Some highlights from today's episode include:

  • It’s difficult for ministers to say no to church members even when their request might be outlandish.
  • There are too many ministers who do not want to hand off ministry.
  • The first two things that pastors and staff neglect when they get busy is personal prayer & devotion and exercise.
  • Pastor, does your calendar have adequate time for prayer, sermon prep, and your family?
  • Please God and your family first. If you're not pleasing them first, your priorities are out of order.
  • Ministers who don't have enough time are often ministers who don't plan their days.

The seven ways you can find more time in ministry are:

  • Learn to say no.
  • Learn to delegate
  • Exercise.
  • Calendar in batches of time.
  • Calendar margin.
  • Learning that you can't please everyone.
  • Go on a television and Internet diet

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Vanderbloemen Search Group is the premier pastor search firm dedicated to helping churches and ministries build great teams. They’ve helped hundreds of churches just like yours find their church staff and are uniquely geared to help you discern who God is calling to lead your church. Find out more about Vanderbloemen Search Group by visiting WeStaffTheChurch.com.
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Podcast Episode #086

In this first podcast episode of 2015, we expound on what discourages those in ministry. Like criticism, overcoming discouragement is a two-pronged approach. Ministers need to know how to handle it, and members need to realize how their actions can cause it.

Some highlights from this week’s episode include:

  • An active church member 15 years ago attended church three times a week. Now it's three times a month.
  • Church membership classes can help decrease the discouragement for staff by giving members expectations and information up front.
  • Pastors or staff members can run themselves ragged trying to meet personal demands placed on them from church members.
  • Many ministers lack business and administrative training but are expected to know how to run what amounts to a small business.
  • You have no right to attack the family of a staff person because of dissatisfaction with the minister.
  • Every church staff will have conflict and differences. It is normal. The key is how you resolve that conflict.

The ten issues we covered were:

  • Conflicts/complaining/murmuring.
  • Lack of fruit and spiritual maturity in church members.
  • Apathy.
  • Church members who leave the church for seemingly silly or no reasons.
  • Expectations by members/lack of time.
  • Performing tasks where the pastor/staff does not have competencies.
  • Meetings/committees.
  • Family concerns.
  • Staff issues.
  • Lack of volunteers.

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The Cross Church School of Ministry is a one-year residential ministry experience hosted by Cross Church and Dr. Ronnie Floyd. It uniquely designed to prepare leaders for life, ministry, and Gospel advancement globally. For more information about the Cross Church School of Ministry visit: www.CrossChurchSchool.com.

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Resources

  • The Number One Reason for the Decline in Church Attendance and Five Ways to Address It
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  • Seven Reasons Pastors May Need a Virtual Assistant
  • Pastors' Wives
  • Pastors' Kids

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Podcast Episode #085

In this final podcast episode of 2014, we cover a number of topics thanks to the listener questions that have been submitted over the past few months. Remember, if you have a question you'd like to have answered on a podcast, you can submit in the form at the bottom of the podcast page.

Some highlights from this week’s episode include:

  • When considering rebranding a church ask: "What is the gain?" and "What is the cost?"
  • Church membership is a voluntary activity, and you need to be careful overstepping that volunteer aspect.
  • The steps for church revitalization should be fully contextual.
  • When you have less-frequent business meetings, you tend to cover more substantive items during them.
  • The first thing dying churches must do is to face reality.

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Podcast Episode #084

Joining us this week is a great friend of the podcast, Dr. Ronnie Floyd. On this week's show, we discuss multi-site churches, multi-ethnic church staffing, Millennials, and leadership.

Some highlights from this week’s episode include:

  • The need of America today is a spiritual awakening—a time when God moves and millions come to Christ.
  • We can't fix ourselves. We need God to do that.
  • Local churches need to be ready for a new kind of leader. The Millennial leader is different.
  • Pastors are one of the few groups that don't have a residency, and that's one reason there is such a high failure rate.
  • A true New Testament church should be multi-ethnic, multi-generational, and multi-cultural.
  • Be faithful and intentional to reach the community around your church.
  • The greatest thing you can do for your life, family, and church is to have a deep walk with God.

About Ronnie Floyd
Dr. Ronnie Floyd has been a pastor for over 36 years. His experience, wisdom, and passion for God make him a powerful proclaimer of God’s Word. He teaches principles from the Bible that encourages and uplifts thousands of people all over the world via TV, the Internet, podcasts, radio, speaking engagements, and books.

Since 1986, Pastor Floyd has served as the Senior Pastor of Cross Church, Northwest Arkansas. In June 2014, Dr. Floyd was elected President of the Southern Baptist Convention.
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The Cross Church School of Ministry is a one-year residential ministry experience hosted by Cross Church and Dr. Ronnie Floyd. It uniquely designed to prepare leaders for life, ministry, and Gospel advancement globally. For more information about the Cross Church School of Ministry visit: www.CrossChurchSchool.com.
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Podcast Episode #083

We cover the biggest post we've ever had at ThomRainer.com. It was on how churches drive away guests, and more than 750,000 of you have viewed the post. In this podcast, we dive deeper into the reasons these items drive away guests and further evaluate the stand and greet time.

Also mentioned in the post is a new resource that releases Monday, December 8, on the keys to retaining guests more effectively. You can sign up to find out more about that here.

Some highlights from this week’s episode include:

  • I'm consistently amazed at the lack of signage in churches. It's like they expect people who've never been to their facility will know exactly where to go.
  • It's worse to have a bad church website than to not have one.
  • Church facility issues may seem petty to some, but in the end, they can turn people away from hearing the gospel.
  • There is a sense that the stand and greet time is a contrived exercise.
  • Every pastor tells me they are the friendliest church in town.
  • Church members should be thinking about others, especially guests.

Top Ten Ways Churches Drive Away First-time Guests

  • Having a stand up and greet one another time in the worship service.
  • Unfriendly church members.
  • Unsafe and unclean children’s area.
  • No place to get information.
  • Bad church website.
  • Poor signage.
  • Insider church language.
  • Boring or bad service.
  • Members telling guests that they were in their seat or pew.
  • Dirty facilities.

Seven Reasons People Dislike the Stand and Greet Time

  • Many guests are introverts.
  • Some guests perceive that the members are not sincere during the time of greeting.
  • Many guests don’t like the lack of hygiene that takes place during this time.
  • Many times the members only greet other members.
  • Both members and guests at some churches perceive the entire exercise is awkward.
  • In some churches, the people in the congregation are told to say something silly to one another.
  • Not only do some guests dread the stand and greet time, so do some members.

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Podcast Episode #082

This week we are joined on the podcast with one of the premier hymn writers of our day: Keith Getty. The Gettys are kicking off their Joy: An Irish Christmas tour this weekend, and Keith was gracious enough to join us for a quick taping of the podcast earlier this week.

As a special bonus to our listeners, The Gettys have provided a free download of the MP3s and sheet music for Joy Has Dawned and Jesus, Joy of the Highest Heaven. Click here to download.

Some highlights from this week’s episode include:

  • There are more people in our churches at Christmas who are yet to believe.
  • Christmas carols are the true crossover music of our time.
  • You can speak into the future by understanding the art forms of the past.
  • People not caring about singing in worship is a scandal.
  • Stop boring people by trying to have your music sound like the church down the street.
  • The highest call for musicians in churches is to accompany the congregation in singing.

The five things we discuss that churches can do to not waste Christmas:

  • Sing the gospel.
  • Build your Christmas around carols.
  • Get serious our congregational singing.
  • Artist should be creative and innovative with their Christmas music.
  • Use Christmas to focus on those who don’t come to church instead of those who do.

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Podcast Episode #081

Pastor and author Kerry Shook joins us on the podcast this week. On the show, we discuss Kerry's new book, multisite ministry, megachurches, and much more.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Sermons are only half over when you hear them. You need to live them out as well.
  • "It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." - John Wooden
  • We have to keep learning as pastors.
  • In those early days of our church plant, we got a lot more negativity from Christians than non-Christians.
  • Leadership tension is needed because it draws us closer to the Lord.
  • Dream big, pray hard, build people, and leave the results to God.

About Kerry Shook:
Kerry and his wife, Chris, founded Fellowship of The Woodlands, now Woodlands Church in 1993. Kerry believes that church should be engaging and fun, calling it “The Best Hour of Your Week.” He strives to eliminate the barriers of boredom, unfriendliness and fear that keep people from experiencing not just religion but a relationship with Jesus Christ. His messages are relevant, and his illustrations memorable.

Kerry Shook Ministries is a worldwide television ministry that broadcasts to a local, national and international audience. Pastor Kerry and Chris can now be seen by millions in 50 states and over 200 countries worldwide. Kerry and Chris have been married twenty-five years and have four children.
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  • BeTheMessage.org
  • 14 Questions Church Leaders Should Ask about Church Finances
  • Firsthand Faith

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Podcast Episode #080

Last week on the podcast we covered leaders of churches or Christian ministries who don't act in the most Christ-like of ways. This week, we flip that and examine the traits of healthy, tenured pastors and leaders.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Long-tenured pastors don't necessarily mean a church will be healthy. But several short-term ones almost guarantee it's not.
  • Praying daily for your congregation will not only give you a heart for your people but a spiritual and relational connection you would otherwise miss.
  • Don't treat your church as an island in the sea of your community.
  • You don't always have to get your way as a pastor.
  • Many pastors are short-term because they pick so many fights.
  • Healthy accountability is needed for healthy leadership.
  • Pastors need both organizational accountability and personal accountability.

The 10 traits we cover are:

  • They pray daily for their church members and staff.
  • They view their family as their first line of ministry.
  • They connect with and love people in their community.
  • They choose their battles carefully and wisely.
  • They welcome structures that make them accountable.
  • They spend time developing staff.
  • They expect conflict and criticism.
  • They connect with other pastors and ministries in the community.
  • They affirm both theology and practical ministry.
  • They ask long-term questions.

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The Cross Church School of Ministry is a one-year residential ministry experience hosted by Cross Church and SBC President, Dr. Ronnie Floyd. It uniquely designed to prepare leaders for life, ministry, and Gospel advancement globally. For more information about the Cross Church School of Ministry visit: www.CrossChurchSchool.com.
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Resources

  • Five Stages of a Pastor’s Ministry
  • Seven Ways the Pastor’s Family Comes Under Attack
  • How to Affair-Proof Your Marriage
  • Fourteen Symptoms of Toxic Church Leaders

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Podcast Episode #079

Unfortunately not all leaders of churches or Christian ministries act in the most Christ-like of ways. Some of these leaders, despite the Christian mission of the group they lead, create extremely toxic environments. Their leadership then hinders the growth of the church or ministry, and, if left uncorrected, often runs it into the ground. So this week on the podcast, we discuss the traits found in these leaders and what to do if you are one or work for one.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • There is a dark side to Christian leadership, and we should address these issues in the open.
  • As Christian leaders, we should exemplify the fruit of the Spirit.
  • The level of accountability in Christian leadership should be higher than that of secular leaders.
  • Toxic leaders get their joy by putting others down.
  • Toxic leaders rarely try to develop people. They use them up and cast them aside.
  • The more clear you are in your communication, the more you reveal who you really are.

The 14 traits we cover are:

  • They rarely demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit.
  • They seek a minimalist structure of accountability.
  • They expect behavior of others they don’t expect of themselves.
  • They see almost everyone else as inferior to themselves.
  • They show favoritism.
  • They have frequent anger outbursts.
  • They say one thing to some people, but different things to others.
  • They seek to dismiss or marginalize people before they attempt to develop them.
  • They are manipulative.
  • They lack transparency.
  • They do not allow for pushback or disagreement.
  • They surround themselves with sycophants.
  • They communicate poorly.
  • They are self-absorbed.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
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Podcast Episode #078

William Vanderbloemen joins us this week to discuss trends in pastoral succession and hiring practices. William Vanderbloemen has been able to combine over 15 years of ministry experience as a Senior Pastor with the best practices of Executive Search to provide churches with a unique offering: a deep understanding of local church work with the very best knowledge and practices of professional executive search. William, his wife Adrienne, have seven children and live in the Houston area.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Every pastor is an interim pastor.
  • The church is notorious for raising the flag at sunset.
  • Succession planning is not just a corporate principle. It is highly biblical as well.
  • A church is married to one man, and it's not the pastor—it's Jesus.
  • When churches are searching out pastors, the first rule is "slow down."
  • Churches hire too fast and fire too slow.
  • The most expensive hire you ever make is hiring the wrong person.
  • A lot of pastors and ministers lack the basic job seeking skills and resume writing skills.
  • Churches are now spending more more on fewer staff members. They have eliminated "middle management."
  • Carrying the weight of the things of God becomes too much for a man at a certain age.
  • Make sure your pastor has good financial planning.

Episode Sponsor
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Resources

  • Vanderbloemen Search Group
  • NEXT: Pastoral Succession That Works
  • Six Updates from Churches with Pastoral Vacancies
  • FindOurLeader.com

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Podcast Episode #077

Church revitalization is needed in almost any church. Churches don't have to be near death to be in need of revitalization. We discuss this growing need and offer a few solutions and encouragements to those leading their churches to new life.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • No church ever stays in perfect health.
  • Church revitalization is not a matter of "if", it's a matter of when.
  • Churches need to recognize their need for revitalization and accept the treatment needed.
  • The most difficult part of church revitalization is dealing with the relationships that are affected by change.
  • "If you don't stop changing things in this church, I will kill you."
  • There is hope and there are great possibilities for your church.

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This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • Revitalized Churches Video Consultation
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Obstacles in the Established Church
  • Seven Reasons Why We Should Not Give Up on Established Churches
  • Auxano

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Podcast Episode #076

The implications for church leadership are even more challenging when we realize how many Boomer pastors specifically will be retiring. This generation was, until recently, the largest generation in America’s history. Millennials now represent the largest generation.

Keep in mind that the ages of these pastors today range from 50 to 68. The Boomers have more pastors represented in their generation than any other. There are many pastors reaching retirement age every month. And I’m not sure our churches are ready for this transition. So this week, we analyze the issue and provide advice for both pastors looking to retire as well as churches with aging pastors.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • In the next 5-10 years there will be a wave of Boomer retirements.
  • What does a Boomer do when a Boomer retires? He keeps working.
  • There is not a magic age for pastors to retire.
  • 20 years ago, I never would have thought church mergers would be a recipe for revitalization.
  • Some pastors will hang on too long; others will not retire for financial reasons. Only a few will have good succession plans.

The five implications of retiring pastors covered in this episode were:

  • There will be more pastoral vacancies than qualified candidates.
  • Few churches are giving any thought to pastoral succession.
  • There will be an abundance of qualified pastors for interim and bi-vocational positions.
  • Some Boomer pastors will stay at their current positions into their late 60s and 70s.
  • Some Boomer pastors will lead their churches to merge.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • What Happens When Boomer Pastors Retire?
  • Next: Pastoral Succession That Works
  • Podcast with Kyle Idleman
  • Podcast with Larry Osborne
  • Ministers' Housing Allowance
  • RevitalizedChurches.com
  • Middle Tennessee Initiative - Brentwood...

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Podcast Episode #075

Social media has become one of the most effective ways for us to communicate. While there is so much good in social media, it can be used quite negatively. So in this episode, we consider seven warnings for church leaders to heed when using social media.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Approach social media with great care because what you say online will likely be with you as long as you live.
  • Employers are now doing four types of background checks: references, legal, credit, and social media.
  • The smiley face emoji is often the social media version of "bless your heart."
  • The beauty of social media is that there is no gatekeeper and you can post anything. The downside of social media is that there is no gatekeeper and you can post anything.
  • When you're angry and negative online, you don't just hurt your reputation; you hurt your family's reputation and your Christian witness as well.
  • I'm hearing about more and more ministers and pastors who do not get jobs because of their negativity on social media.

The seven warnings we cover are:

  • Consider anything you say on social media to be permanent.
  • You can be misunderstood often on social media.
  • Emoticons are not sufficient to soften what you have posted.
  • Attacks on other people’s character or positions are considered cowardly by many.
  • Too many Christian leaders are posting on social media in the heat of emotional moments.
  • Churches and other Christian organizations are checking social media of Christian leaders.
  • The non-Christian world is watching Christians attack each other on social media.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • Seven Positive Ways Christians Can Use Social Media
  • What the Unchurched Don’t Like About Christians

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Podcast Episode #074

We tackle a post by Dr. Chuck Lawless on church facility issues. In doing so, we cover everything from upright pianos to dirty diapers.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Paper signage can communicate you don't care about the professionalism of your church.
  • You wouldn't put children's furniture in adult classes, so why would you put adult furniture in children's classes?
  • If parents don't feel their kids are safe at a church, they likely will not return.
  • Facility issues communicate our level of concern about the quality of God's house.
  • Don't assume facility issues have no bearing on the perception of your church.
  • Consider hiring a mystery guest to evaluate your church from an outside perspective.

The 15 church facility issues we cover are:

  • No obvious main entrance.
  • An unmarked (or unattended) welcome center.
  • Paper signage.
  • Old information on screens or bulletin boards.
  • Unsecured children’s area.
  • Windowless doors in the children’s area.
  • “Big people” furniture in children’s rooms.
  • Clutter.
  • Open outlets in preschool rooms.
  • Dirty carpet.
  • Odors.
  • Unstocked bathrooms.
  • Poor lighting.
  • Few garbage cans.
  • Faded paint.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by RevitalizedChurches.com. Bringing together videos, books, and other resources from today’s top pastors, leaders, and authors, RevitalizedChurches.com is the premier online destination for Church Revitalization. Visit RevitalizedChurches.com today for your free download of 114 Things You Need to Know About Church Revitalization by Thom Rainer.
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Resources

  • Five Reasons Your Church Might Consider Using eBay to Increase Giving

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Podcast Episode #073

Our guest this week is Larry Osborne. Since 1980, he has served as one of the senior pastors at North Coast Church in Vista, CA. During that time, North Coast has grown from a fledging group of 128 meeting in a rented high school cafeteria to a multi-site church ministering to nearly 10,000 in weekend attendance. Larry joined us to discuss leadership, innovation, and much more.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • Change and innovation are twins separated at birth.
  • There is no value in innovation in the church. There is only value in the mission. Innovation must reflect the mission.
  • You don't have to be an innovator as a pastor.
  • You don't need buy-in if you truly want to innovate because if you wait for it, you'll never get it.
  • Ask for permission, not buy-in as a leader. People will give you permission long before they will give you buy-in.
  • In the church, the most powerful platform anyone can have is the role of preaching.

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This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastors.
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Resources

  • Innovation's Dirty Little Secret
  • Sticky Church
  • Sticky Teams

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Podcast Episode #072

Brad Waggoner returns to the podcast this week to discuss how to lead when you're not the top leader in an organization. Brad also tackles the question I hear most frequently from church staff: What do you do when you don't really agree with the pastor's vision for the church?

Some highlights from the episode:

  • A leader's success is built upon trust and alignment with the staff.
  • Work hard to stay aligned with the leadership in your organization
  • If the pastor does not have any role in the hiring of other ministerial staff, that is often a recipe for disaster.
  • Pastors need to feel comfortable with and trust those who serve alongside them.
  • As a second-chair leader, you have to genuinely care that you are helping the first chair succeed.
  • We are called to availability, not specifically a certain label in a certain position.

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Resources

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • A Culture of Trust

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Podcast Episode #071

This week cover symptoms often found in dysfunctional churches. As I state in the preface to the podcast, the list is not meant to be critical but eye-opening. There is hope for our churches, and that hope is found in Christ.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • If there are severe theological errors in a church, it may no longer be a true church.
  • Force-terminated pastors are too common.
  • The average tenure of a pastor is about 3.5 years.
  • There is a misperception that unchurched people are not receptive to invites to church. That is simply not true.
  • Churches that are "family-owned and operated" are often among the ones that close each year.
  • If you ever look for a perfect church, you will not find it.

The six symptoms of a dysfunctional church that we cover are:

  • Severe theological errors are pervasive in the church.
  • The church is known as a “pastor-eater.”
  • The congregation experiences severe conflict.
  • Hardly anyone in the community knows the church exists.
  • The church is declining while the community is growing.
  • The church is “family owned and family operated.”

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This week's podcast is brought to you by the HCSB Bible. Taking into account the significant advancements in scholarship, translation theory, and contemporary English usage, the HCSB will satisfy both those new to the faith and seasoned scholars. Visit HCSB.org for more information.
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If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • Five Stages of a Pastor’s Ministry
  • Seven Ways to Lead “Unleadable” People in a Church
  • Breakout Churches

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Podcast Episode #070

We are privileged to have Alistair Begg as our guest. In this episode, we discussed pastoral tenure, expository preaching, sermon preparation, the resurgence of Puritan theology, and more.

Some highlights from the episode:

  • A lot of pastors overestimate what they can do in a short time and underestimate what they can do over the long haul.
  • Think yourself empty, read yourself full, write yourself clear, and pray yourself hot.
  • Technology has been the big game changer in the church over the past few decades.
  • There is no ideal place to serve God except where He has placed you.
  • God's work done in God's way will never lack God's supply.—Hudson Taylor

About Alistair Begg:
Alistair Begg came to Parkside as senior Pastor in September 1983. His teaching is also featured on the radio program Truth For Life. He was born and raised in Glasgow, Scotland, and from there went to Trent University, London School of Theology, and Westminster Seminary. He and his wife, Susan, have three children. One book he believes every person should have in his or her personal library besides the Bible is The Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the HCSB Bible. Taking into account the significant advancements in scholarship, translation theory, and contemporary English usage, the HCSB will satisfy both those new to the faith and seasoned scholars. Visit HCSB.org for more information.
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Podcast Episode #069

We cover a recent post here at the blog written by Chuck Lawless on why church members don't invite others to church. Some highlights from the podcast include:

  • We have to keep an awareness before our church members that they need to invite others to church.
  • Don't be afraid of rejection. Celebrate those who accept your invitation.
  • Don't be reluctant to invite others because your church isn't perfect. No church is.
  • Pastors: when is the last time you instructed your congregation to invite others to church?
  • Don't discount the potential success you can have with a "Friend Day."
  • God uses us as His instruments to invite.
  • We often use excuses and rationalizations to mask our disobedience to the Great Commission.
  • Redundantly remind church members to invite others.

Here are the ten reasons church members don't invite others to church:

  • “I just don’t think about it.”
  • “I’m afraid I’ll be rejected.”
  • “The music isn’t that good.”
  • “The preaching isn’t strong.”
  • “We’ve got too many church problems right now.”
  • “Our church is already too crowded.”
  • “Nobody ever challenged me to invite anyone.”
  • “I don’t know how to start the conversation.”
  • “It’s the Spirit’s job—not mine—to bring people to church.”
  • “It’s too far for people to come.”

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Resources

  • The Number One Reason for the Decline in Church Attendance
  • The Unchurched Next Door

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Podcast Episode #068

The most common factor found in declining churches is an inward focus. When a church is only focused on itself, it will begin to fight amongst itself. However, when it is outwardly focused the bickering usually ceases. Some highlights from this week's show:

  • The true sign that a church is outwardly focused is that it is consistently doing things in the community.
  • Fighting at church business meetings hasn't necessarily decreased. But the frequency of business meetings has.
  • Any time you lead, you're going to be criticized. It comes with the territory.
  • I had a church member tell me "You are leading too many people to Christ. Our church is changing too much."
  • What year is it in your church?
  • We should revere the past, but we should not worship the past.
  • Culture is not the enemy. It is an opportunity.

The eight specific warning signs we discuss are:

  • There are very few attempts to minister to those in the community.
  • Church business meetings become arguments over preferences and desires.
  • Numbers of members in the congregation are openly critical of the pastor, other church staff, and lay leaders in the church.
  • Any change necessary to become a Great Commission church is met with anger and resistance.
  • The past becomes the hero.
  • Culture is seen as the enemy instead of an opportunity for believers to become salt and light.
  • Pastors and other leaders in the church become discouraged and withdraw from effective leadership.
  • If the churches are a part of a denomination or similar affiliation, meetings of those denominations mirror the churches in lost focus and divisiveness.

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This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
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Resources

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • I Am a Church Member
  • Lyle E. Schaller

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Podcast Episode #067

I am excited that our Fridays at ThomRainer.com will focus on my podcast, Rainer on Leadership. We will continue to offer free resources on different occasions. I am so thankful for the growth in both the blog and the podcast. I pray both will be a blessing to you.

We discuss one of the most popular posts from the past few months: Seven Ways to Hurt Your Pastor. I experienced every one of these in my pastorates. And if you are a pastor, I'm sure you have too. As we reflect on this post, we provide antidotes to these seven ways that church members hurt their pastor.

Here is a review of the seven ways:

  • Criticize the pastor’s family.
  • Tell the pastor he is overpaid.
  • Don’t defend the pastor.
  • Tell your pastor what an easy job he has.
  • Be a constant naysayer.
  • Make comments about the pastor’s expenditures.
  • Compare your pastor’s preaching and ministry unfavorably to that of another pastor.

To avoid these:

  • Encourage the pastor's family.
  • Thank the pastor for all that the pastor does at the church.
  • Take a stand for your pastor.
  • Understand the number of hours a pastor puts in each week.
  • Encourage the pastor instead of being critical.
  • Don't compare the pastor to the rare exceptions who live lavishly.
  • Tell your pastor how the sermons impact your life.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
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Resources

  • The Minister's Salary

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Podcast Episode #066

A lot of you are pastors. A lot of you are in leadership positions where every single move is watched and every word is parsed. It can be extremely difficult to lead with that pressure on you. So today, Dr. Danny Akin discusses leading your family, your church, or your business with all eyes on you.
Some quotes from Dr. Akin in this episode:

  • The key word that is missing in many marriages today is “commitment.”
  • When you’re committed to marriage to the end, when those hard times come, you’re motivated to work through it.
  • Too many men in ministry are helicopter dads, and that stifles the fun in the house.
  • Being in the ministry means living in a glass house. It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is. If you can’t handle that, then you may not need to be in the ministry.
  • It is a compliment to you as a mom or dad that your kids feel comfortable bringing their friends into your home.
  • We can’t please everyone. All that really matters in life is that you please God.
  • When you make a mistake, admit it and ask for forgiveness.

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Podcast Episode #065

With around 12 million Millennials in our churches today, their presence is making a dramatic impact on worship services. As we discuss on the podcast this week, this impact is not necessarily manifested in a desire for a certain style of music, but a desired authenticity in the worship service. In that regard, “style” of worship is not their primary focus. Instead they seek worship services and music that have three major elements.

  • They desire the music to have rich content. They desire to sing those songs that reflect deep biblical and theological truths. It is no accident that the hymnody of Keith and Kristyn Getty has taken the Millennials by storm. Their music reflects those deep and rich theological truths.
  • The Millennials desire authenticity in a worship service. They can sense when congregants and worship leaders are going through the motions. And they will reject such perfunctory attitudes altogether.
  • This large generation does want a quality worship service. But that quality is a reflection of the authenticity noted above, and adequate preparation of the worship leaders both spiritually and in time of preparation. In that sense, quality worship services are possible for churches of all sizes.

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This week's podcast is brought to you by B&H Publishing group and the book The Millennials. The Millennials is based on 1200 interviews with its namesakes that aim to better understand them personally, professionally, and spiritually. Chapters report intriguing how-and-why findings on family matters, their desire for diversity, Millennials and the new workplace, their attitude toward money, the media, the environment, and perhaps most tellingly, religion.
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Resources

  • The Millennials
  • I Am a Church Member
  • Keith & Kristyn Getty

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Podcast Episode #064

A recent post and podcast on changing trends in the church created quite a stir with one particular issue: Sunday night worship services. As Jonathan points out in this week's podcast, there are typically four options for churches on Sunday nights: no service, a copy of the Sunday morning service, a different but less-attended worship service, and a time of discipleship either on- or off-campus.

While some faith traditions have no history of Sunday evening services, many do. If you do have Sunday evening services or a time of discipleship, I would encourage you to examine what you do as a church and ask if that's the best thing for your context. While many churches are doing away with Sunday evening services, not every church should. If you continue to hold Sunday evening gatherings, be creative with what you do and make Sunday evenings work best for your church in your specific context.

That being said, here are the six main reasons Sunday evening worship services are on the decline:

  • The advent of Sunday evening services in many churches was a cultural adaptation for its time. Its decline or demise is thus a cultural response.
  • The disappearance of blue laws (mandatory Sunday closings) allowed many alternatives to Sunday evening worship, and many church members chose those options.
  • There has been an increasing emphasis on family time. Families with children at home particularly viewed one worship service on Sundays to be sufficient for them.
  • Many pastors simply do not have the desire, energy, or commitment to prepare a second and different sermon. Their lack of emphasis was thus reflected in the congregation’s lack of interest.
  • When many churches began offering services on alternative days, such as Fridays or Saturdays, there was neither the desire nor the resources to keep Sunday evening services going.
  • A number of churches, particularly new church starts, are in leased facilities. They do not have the option of returning on Sunday evenings.

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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.
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Podcast Episode #063

I am honored to host Lee Strobel and Mark Mittelberg to discuss the state of evangelism in the local church. While we are all commanded to share our faith with others, if we want to build evangelistic churches, we need the pastors to model it first. There are many ways to do this, and Mark and Lee share several ways this can be accomplished. From meeting for coffee, playing golf, barbecuing, to watching sporting events, we all have opportunities to engage in the lives of non-Christians and share our faith.

About Mark
Mark Mittelberg is a best-selling author, sought-after speaker, and a leading strategist in evangelism and apologetics-oriented outreach. He is the primary author (with Lee Strobel and Bill Hybels) of the updated Becoming a Contagious Christian Training Course, through which more than a million people have learned to effectively and naturally communicate their faith to others.
About Lee

Lee Strobel, with a journalism degree from the University of Missouri and a Master of Studies in Law degree from Yale Law School, was the award-winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune and a spiritual skeptic until 1981. His books include four Gold Medallion winners and the 2005 Christian Book of the Year (coauthored with Garry Poole). He and his wife live in Colorado
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This week’s podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastorstoday.

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Resources

  • The Case for Christ
  • The Case for Christianity Answer Book
  • Becoming a Contagious Christian
  • Becoming a Contagious Church

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Podcast Episode #062

Our biggest post ever at ThomRainer.com is related to pastors' kids. So when Barnabas Piper released his new book on the subject, we knew we needed to have him on the podcast to discuss the book, what it is like to be the son of a famous pastor, and the fishbowl that many PK's live in. His insights on the subject are helpful to pastors' kids, pastors, and laypersons alike. In the episode, we discuss The Pastor's Kid as well as seven things pastors wish church members knew about their kids.
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This week’s podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastorstoday.

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Resources

  • The Pastor's Kid
  • Seven Things Pastors Would Like Church Members to Know about Their Children
  • Seven Things We Learned from Pastors’ Kids
  • Pastors’ Kids – Rainer on Leadership #040

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Podcast Episode #061

Pastoral succession happens in every church. But most churches either have no plan for pastoral succession or a pretty one one if they do. However, one church that I know of has done a great job. That church is Southeast Christian Church in Louisville. Recently, Kyle Idleman was on campus at LifeWay so Jonathan and I sat down with him to discuss pastoral succession, his books, and pastoral ministry.
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This podcast was brought to you by Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary's Doctor of Ministry program. If you want more out of your ministry, want to study with a world-class faculty and need to stay where you currently serve, the DMin at Southeastern is the answer for you. Visit SEBTS.EDU/DMIN for more information.

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Resources

  • Not a Fan
  • Gods at War
  • Aha

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Podcast Episode #060

If you were attending a church worship service in 1955 and then returned to the same church in 1975, the changes would be noticeable but not dramatic. Churches were slow to change over that 20-year period. If you, however, attended a church worship service in 2000 and then returned to that same church in 2010, there is a high likelihood you would see dramatic changes in just ten years.

So today, Jonathan and I discuss some of those changes that are happening in worship services. The related post for this topic was one that caused a lot of discussion and at least a little controversy. In this week's episode, we share some of the reaction to the original post, dive deeper into some of the changes more, and I explain why I hate neckties.

  • Choirs are disappearing. From 1998 to 2007, the percentage of churches with choirs decreased from 54% to 44%. If that pace holds to this year, the percentage of churches with choirs is only 37%.
  • Dress is more casual. In many churches, a man wearing a tie in a worship service is now among the few rather than the majority. While the degree of casual dress is contextual, the trend is crossing all geographic and demographic lines.
  • Screens are pervasive. Some of you remember the days when putting a projection screen in a worship center was considered a sacrilege. Now most churches have screens. And if they have hymnals, the hymnals are largely ignored and the congregants follow along on the screens.
  • Preaching is longer. I will soon be in the process of gathering this data to make certain the objective research confirms the anecdotal information.
  • “Multi” is normative. Most congregants twenty years ago attended a Sunday morning worship service where no other Sunday morning alternatives were available. Today, most congregants attend a service that is part of numerous alternatives: multi-services; multi-campuses; multi-sites; and multi-venues.
  • Attendees are more diverse. The Duke study noted the trend of the decrease in the number of all-white congregations.
  • Conflict is not increasing. In a recent post, I noted the decreasing frequency of worship wars. The Duke study noted that overall church conflict has not increased over a 20-year period.
  • More worship attendees are attending larger churches. Churches with an attendance of 400 and up now account for 90% of all worship attendees. Inversely, those churches with an attendance of under 400 only account for 10% of worship attendees.
  • Sunday evening services are disappearing. This issue has stirred quite a bit of discussion the past few years.

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  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church

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Podcast Episode #059

From time to time, we wind up with a backlog of questions to cover on the podcast. This week, we chose some that relate to general pastoral advice.

CHRIS - BREAKING ATTENDANCE BARRIERS
Dr. Rainer, I have enjoyed the podcast and many of your books about the church. I pastor a church in a rural community and I am curious about the different attendance barriers. I have seen things on the 200 barrier but what about some of the other barriers. The church I am in seems to hit about 90 and go back down to 65-70. What kind of barriers are there around the 100 range?
DAN - GENERATION GAPS
Our church is an older congregation and we are a church of 100 or so. I am always struggling as pastor to find places of ministry for people who want to serve, younger as well as older people. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions of ministry ideas? I sometimes suggest tasks and sometimes it makes others who are already serving in those areas like they are not needed. I try to let them know it is a team effort. Thank you for any help you and your team could be.
JAKE - WHEN TO LEAVE
How do you know when to vacate the pulpit? How do the church leaders do that? How are other staff members involved in that process, if at all? Love the blog & podcast, thanks for all the hard work. Sincerely, a simple church youth guy at a 150 year old traditional church, stuck in the biggest rut ever!
BEN - FORMER PASTOR STILL THERE
I am beginning my 2nd year as pastor of a small rural church that includes the former pastor of 20 years. I am now the 4th man to pastor this church since he retired. This pastor is a good man, is emotionally supportive, and gives lip service to my leadership. How do I, as the new guy, lead a church to make some very necessary changes while the patriarch looks over my shoulder?
LENNY - DECEASED CHURCH
It looks like we are headed for a deceased church, with the majority of members over 70 years old and less than ten children still coming. Is there any hope for the church or are we putting too much effort and money into a dying church?
COLLIN - STAFF DEMANDS
How does one separate being a church staff member from being an active Church Ministry member?
BRIAN - CHURCH MEMBERSHIP
My church constitution and by-laws read that new members may be admitted to our church by transfer of letter from a church "of like faith and order." Many churches I am sure have the same language. And in years past, that was easy to decipher: Southern Baptist churches move letters to other Southern Baptist churches. But in this day of a lack of denominational allegiance, many people are members of many denominations and/or "non-denominational" churches, that line has become blurred. What do you perceive to be the essential issues that would be "of like faith and order?"
JUSTIN - PASTOR SALARY
How do you know when a pastor is getting overpaid? What If he is getting paid a lot but church is not having people come to Christ or being baptized?
KEN - GROUPS MATTER
Our church does pretty well with Sunday worship and small group discipleship. How important is one-on-one discipleship for church health and how would I develop it?

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Podcast Episode #058

Social media is fast becoming the preferred method of communication. It cannot be ignored. Not just by individuals, but by churches as well. So this week, I somewhat turn the tables on Jonathan and interview him on how churches can more effectively use social media and how pastors and leaders can use the platforms online out of gospel ambition instead of for personal gain. We cover a couple of posts from his blog (linked below) and the seven reasons churches need someone directing their social media.

  • Social media is fast becoming a preferred method of communication.
  • Having one individual lead social media will avoid the pitfalls of mixed messages.
  • A congregation’s social media expressions need a consistent voice.
  • A good social media director understands the language of the people.
  • One person acting as social media director can help give priority to the different messages the church needs to send.
  • A social media director can help find the church’s “sweet spot” in social media.
  • Effective social media needs ongoing attention.

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  • Four Keys to Better Blogging

  • Platform: Great Risk or Great Reward

  • Seven Common Comments Non-Christians Make about Christians

  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church

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Podcast Episode #057

On a recent post, friend of the blog Ron Edmondson requested we expound more on why pastors are sometimes hesitant to take jobs at established churches. Ron asked, and we listened. So today, we cover what an established church is (one who has been in existence for a sufficient amount of time so that it has patterns of behavior that are routine) and why they struggle to find capable, qualified pastoral candidates at times. We started with these ten reasons:

  • We don’t celebrate the victories of established churches and their pastors.
  • Church culture is increasingly negative, and some established churches have followed this trend.
  • Some pastors have the “grass is greener” syndrome.
  • We have failed to equip many pastors in leadership and relational skills.
  • There is often a chasm between the expectations of pastors and the expectations of the congregations.
  • The Internet age makes information readily available.
  • Established church members often compare their pastors to gifted orators on podcasts and other media.
  • More pastors are tempted to move campus pastor roles at multi-site churches.
  • More pastors are tempted to start new churches.
  • Giving is declining in many established churches, reducing the availability of resources the church once had.

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Podcast Episode #056

When it comes to how pastors are hired in churches, things have changed dramatically in the past few decades. These changes have established a new dynamic in what churches are looking for and how they are finding pastors. This week on the podcast, Jonathan and I discuss these changes and how pastors or those seeking to become pastors should adapt to these trends.

  • Church consolidations mean more pastors will report directly to another pastor.
  • Multisite and multi-venue churches will increasingly hire more pastors.
  • Established churches will have greater difficulty finding pastors that meet their criteria.
  • There will be an increased demand for bivocational pastors.
  • More churches will partner with seminaries to “raise their own” pastors.
  • More pastors will be gauged by their social media involvement in the pastor selection process.
  • There will continue to be growth in the number of megachurch pastor position openings.
  • Pastoral tenure will move in two different directions.
  • Pastoral mentoring will grow.
  • Denominational influence on pastor placement will continue to wane.

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Podcast Episode #055

Of the nearly 400,000 churches in the US, I would surmise that 90% of them, or roughly 360,000, are in denial about the current state of their church. But I'm an obnoxious optimist. I know God can still work through those churches, but it takes a great amount of work on the part of churches. Our world is changing dramatically, and if we're not keeping up with the pace of change, we will be left behind. So this week, we cover 10 dangers of denial that churches can easily fall into instead of changing and thriving.

  • The problems will only worsen.
  • Future generations are forsaken.
  • Leaders will have regrets.
  • Churches will miss opportunities for solutions.
  • There is no urgency for change.
  • Maintenance ministries engender frustration and conflict.
  • Churches in denial are usually disobedient.
  • Many of these churches will tolerate open and flagrant sin.
  • The church will lose its best members.
  • Comfort becomes an idol.

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Podcast Episode #054

I've written on pastors' wives a few times here at the blog and every time I do, people flock to the posts. So this week, we looked at these posts and discussed all things related to the pastor's wife: expectations, loneliness, parenting, friendships, the desire for mentors, and so much more. Here are the points we covered:

Seven Things Pastors’ Wives Wish They Had Been Told Before They Became Pastors’ Wives - April 2013

  • I wish someone had told me just to be myself.
  • I wish someone had prepared me to deal with criticism of my husband and me.
  • I wish someone had reminded me that my husband is human.
  • I wish someone had told me that others were watching us (the glass house syndrome).
  • I wish someone had told me there are some really mean people in the church.
  • I wish someone had told me how much my husband needs me to build him up.
  • I wish someone had told me that my schedule will never be normal again.

11 Things I Learned from Pastors’ Wives - January 2014

  • The number one challenge for pastors’ wives is loneliness.
  • These ladies need to know they have the love and support of their husbands.
  • A pastor’s wife does not want a church member to tell her what her “job” at the church is.
  • She would like church members to understand that neither she nor her family is perfect.
  • The pastor’s wife does not want to field complaints from church members about her husband.
  • The pastors’ wives who entered ministry with no forewarning about the issues they would face were the ones who stressed the most.
  • She does not want to be told she needs to work to support her husband and family.
  • While most pastors’ wives affirm their identity as a wife in ministry, they do not want that to be their only identity.
  • Many pastors’ wives believe they need training for their roles.
  • These ladies want to be reminded again and again to keep their focus on Christ.
  • Many pastors’ wives want a means where they can support one another.

Twelve Reasons Pastors’ Wives Are Lonely - February 2014

  • Superficial relationships in the church.
  • A busy pastor/husband.
  • Mean church members.
  • A conduit for complaints about her husband.
  • Broken confidences.
  • Frequent moves.
  • Viewed as a second-class person.
  • Lack of support groups.
  • No date nights.
  • Complaints about children.
  • Husband does not give the wife priority.
  • Financial struggles.

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Podcast Episode #053

This week marks the release of my latest book, Autopsy of a Deceased Church. So this week, we discuss the book, how it can be used in churches, and how it can encourage churches who might be sick to start down a path to health. If a church does not have a clear answer to "Why do we exist?" it will do things that are not of the greatest importance. It is my prayer that Autopsy of a Deceased Church helps sick churches identify that purpose and move toward health.
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Podcast Episode #052

Every pastor has said or done something he has regretted. It's inevitable that occasionally we will let down our families, our congregants, and ourselves. So I recently asked my followers on Twitter what they would want to do over as a pastor. Here were their top seven responses:

  • Said or wrote something out of anger. 
  • Obsessed with one or a few critics. 
  • Failed to admit a mistake. 
  • Neglected a family member for a church need. 
  • Pushed an initiative rather than getting buy-in.
  • Left a church too soon. 
  • Focused on/obsessed over another church in the community.

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Podcast Episode #051

Pastors receive a great deal of training in seminary and Bible colleges. But even the most scholarly pastors do not learn everything they need to know in a higher education environment. Like any other field, there is always a share of on-the-job training that you only learn once you are in the field. This week, we discuss 10 of those areas in which pastors will likely receive no formal training but still need in order to be the most effective pastor possible. The 10 areas are:

  • A new language—social media.
  • A non-Christian culture.
  • The decline of cultural Christians in churches.
  • A new work/life balance.
  • Unregenerate church members.
  • The community as a mission field.
  • Less automatic cultural respect of church leaders.
  • A more critical world.
  • A greater need for leadership skills. 
  • More churches in need of revitalization.

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Podcast Episode #050

Jonathan and I review a recent blog post on the struggles pastors face. I also tell the story of a certain gift basket delivery I received on a recent speaking trip. The eight struggles we cover are:

  • Criticism and conflict
  • Family problems
  • Stress
  • Depression
  • Burnout
  • Sexual problems
  • Financial problems
  • Time management

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Podcast Episode #049

Dr. Tony Evans was recently our guest at LifeWay. While he was here, Jonathan and I had a chance to sit down with him and record an episode of Rainer on Leadership. Dr. Evans is still one of the greatest influences on my ministry, and I was encouraged by this discussion about life, ministry, fatherhood, and more.

In our discussion, I we covered these questions and quite a few more:

  • What have been the significant shifts in pastoring that you've seen over the past 40 years?
  • What steps did you take to as a husband and father to strengthen your relationship with your wife and kids as your ministry grew in notoriety?
  • How did the way you handled the fame you experienced help your children to process that which they've reached in their respective careers?
  • How has your involvement as a chaplain in the NBA and NFL helped you as a pastor?

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Podcast Episode #048

Evangelistic conversion is solely the work of the Holy Spirit. No matter what method, idea or strategy you use, it will not be successful in human power alone. Yet, depending on what metric you use, just around 1 in 20 churches are growing through conversion growth. So this week, we discussed nine ways churches can become more evangelistic.

  • Pray that the church will become more evangelistic.
  • Pray for opportunities to share the gospel.
  • Become accountable to someone else for sharing the gospel.
  • Start new groups. 
  • Preach the gospel.
  • Celebrate new believers.
  • Get the gospel in all the ministries.
  • Evangelize young people in the church.
  • Have a meal with a non-believer.

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Podcast Episode #047

In a recent post, I listed seven reasons very active church members drop out. These aren't your casual members. These are the ones that are there in a leadership role or a serving capacity on a regular basis. We discuss the seven reasons they may drop out and provide ways for churches to keep these members involved when they show signs of leaving.

  • Moral failure.
  • Dropping out of a group.
  • Burnout.
  • Traumatic event. 
  • Dropping out of a ministry.
  • Major interpersonal conflict.
  • Gradual withdrawal.

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  • I Am a Church Member
  • The Activity-Driven Church
  • Melissa: An Interview with Frank Page
  • 10 Reasons for Church Conflict
  • The Number One Reason for the Decline in Church Attendance
  • Focus on the Family

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Podcast Episode #046

I had the pleasure of having my middle son, Art Rainer, join us to discuss how to communicate big change to an organization or church. Art serves as Vice President for Institutional Advancement at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, NC.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Whose responsibility is it to communicate big ideas,
  • What to do if the big idea fails,
  • How you can ensure everyone is on the same page—especially if the organization is a large one,
  • How to handle critics or detractors within the organization, and
  • Who some of the effective leaders are that Art has worked with.

One leader Art mentioned is the pastor he worked for while on staff at First Baptist Church of West Palm Beach, FL (now Family Church)—Jimmy Scroggins. And since Art brought up Jimmy, we couldn't let the opportunity pass to get the story behind one of the greatest YouTube clips of all time:

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  • The Effective Executive
  • The Everything Store
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Podcast Episode #045

If you are a leader, you will be criticized. If you are not being criticized, you are probably not a leader. The issue is not whether or not you will be the subject of criticism; the greater issue is how you should respond.

As a general rule, leaders should respond to criticism. I do my best to do so, or at that very least, ask someone in my organization to respond. Critics, more often than not, deserve a response. They need to hear from the leader who can give them his or her perspective. They need to hear from a leader in the event the response can be an opportunity for reconciliation.

But there are times when leaders should not respond to critics. In this episode, Jonathan and I list four such reasons. We also discuss two instances in which I never respond to a critic.
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  • Seven Leadership Lessons Learned from Critics
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Podcast Episode #044

Conflict happens in every church. This conflict is sometimes managed well. Other times, not so much. In a recent post here on the blog, I listed 10 reasons for arguments that arise in the church. They mainly include unfair expectations and misunderstood intentions but are common issues in many churches. You will notice that we don't discuss biblical and theological arguments in this episode. That's a completely different (and more lengthy) discussion. Here are the 10 reasons we discuss:

  • Worship and music style.
  • Volume of music in the services.
  • Reasons why churches die.
  • Proper attire for church services.
  • Pastors’ salaries.
  • Megachurches.
  • The number of hours a pastor works each week.
  • Why people leave a church.
  • Role of a pastor’s wife.
  • Perspectives on pastors’ children.

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  • The Pastor's Kid
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Podcast Episode #043

In a blog post earlier this year, I listed seven paradigm shifts facing the American church, This week, Jonathan and I expand on and explain those shifts which we are seeing on a daily basis.

  • From senior pastor to lead pastor.
  • From trust to trials.
  • From denominational to quasi-denominational.
  • From solo preacher to multiple teachers.
  • From attractional to incarnational.
  • From geography to affinity.
  • From low expectation to high expectation.

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  • I Am a Church Member
  • High Expectations: The Remarkable Secret for Keeping People in Your Church
  • Ministry Grid
  • Southeast Christian Church
  • Tony Merida Podcast Episode
  • Three Business Books I Recommend to All Pastors

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Podcast Episode #042

Earlier this week, I shared eleven common mistakes made by churches. That post garnered a huge reaction from you, the readers—so much so that Jonathan and I recorded an "emergency podcast episode" of sorts later in the day about the topics I discussed in the post. Whatever church you serve in or attend, these common mistakes can be fixed, and in most cases, fixed relatively easily.

  • Failure to have a informative, easy-to-use website.
  • Failure of pastors and staff to be actively involved in social media.
  • Failure of pastors and staff to understand they represent the church when they are involved in social media.
  • Failure to urge people to be a part of groups.
  • Failure of leaders to be actively involved in influencing the content of groups.
  • Failure of church members to be considerate of where they sit during a worship service.
  • Failure to have parking lot greeters.
  • Failure to have clearly marked guest parking.
  • Failure to have clearly marked entrances to the worship center.
  • Failure to have clearly marked entrances to the church offices.
  • Failure to have adequate restroom facilities.

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Podcast Episode #041

Tony Merida, a great friend of LifeWay, was at in town recently, and while he was here, Jonathan and I had a chance to record this episode of Rainer on Leadership with him.

Tony is an accomplished author (Faithful Preaching, Orphanology, Christ-Centered Exposition commentary series), pastor (Imago Dei Church in Raleigh, NC), professor (Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary), and speaker (Fuge, Student Life). In this episode, Tony and I discuss the benefits of a teaching team in the local church, how seminary education is beneficial, the church's call to care for orphans and widows, and the Meridas' story of adopting their five children.
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Podcast Episode #040

The most popular post I've ever had on this site was on pastors' kids. It was mildly popular when it was written back in the summer of 2013. It was even a top ten post for 2013, but then went viral nearly six months after it originally debuted when I posted my list of top posts of the year this past December.

The feedback has been quite overwhelming. Commenters shared both their pain and delight from their personal experiences as a pastor's kid. In this week's episode, Jonathan and I discuss that original post and what we've learned as a result thanks to the commenters.
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Podcast Episode #039

Unlike many jobs in the secular world, vacation policies for many pastors are not always spelled out in the clearest of manners. And it's not just policies for the number of days of vacation or how many Sunday's pastors can miss each year (if any), but policies are often needed for interrupted vacations as well. This week, Jonathan and I discuss a recent post on pastors and vacation as well as some reader questions about the uniqueness related to bivocational pastors. The five main questions I get related to pastors and vacation are:

  • How much vacation should I take? 
  • How many Sundays can I be out? 
  • What do I do if my vacation is interrupted? Should they be allowed to take an additional week? How do they make it up to their families?
  • Who covers for me while I’m gone? 
  • Should a pastor have mandatory vacation? 

Finally, Jonathan asks what could be the longest question we've ever had on the podcast.
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Podcast Episode #038

At the beginning of the year, I noted 14 predictions for the church in 2014 here on the blog (part one, part two). Jonathan and I discuss those 14 predictions and reasons behind them. My 14 predictions are:

  • Increased church acquisitions.
  • Downsizing of denominational structures.
  • Decline in conversion growth.
  • More megachurches.
  • Greater number of churches moving to a unified worship style.
  • Increased emphasis on high-expectation church membership.
  • Increased challenges for congregations to build and acquire land due to restrictive governmental policies.
  • More large churches will function like mini-denominations.
  • New worship centers will be built smaller.
  • Increased emphasis on small groups.
  • Longer pastoral tenure.
  • Local churches increasing their roles as ministry training leaders.
  • Church movement to the community.
  • More multiple teaching/preaching pastors.

Finally, as it does on many podcast episodes, the topic of church membership came up again. And this week, I gave two specific tips for pastors looking to clean or improve the membership rolls in their local church.
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This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit blog.lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church
  • The Death of the Mall and the Future of Church Buildings
  • Three Signs Worship Wars May Be Ending
  • Ministry Grid
  • Leadership Network Megachurch Research
  • Five Stages of a Pastor’s Ministry

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Podcast Episode #037

Every church I pastored had a disagreement at some point about the style of music. I'm guessing that if you're a pastor, you probably have the same story. If not, you must not have been a pastor for too long. In this week's episode, Jonathan and I discuss why worship wars happen, how to work through them, and three reasons we may see them becoming less frequent:

  • Fewer Churches with Different Services with Different Styles
  • Resurgence of Hymnody
  • Unifying of the Boomers and the Millennials

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit blog.lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • LifeWay Worship
  • LifeWay.com/Worship
  • Keith Getty
  • The Millennials
  • I Am a Church Member

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Podcast Episode #036

Like every area of life, a lot has changed in the past 30 years as it relates to pastoring. In a recent post, I listed seven specific ways:

  • Thirty years ago, most people in the community held the pastor in high esteem.
  • Thirty years ago, most people in the congregation held the pastor in high esteem.
  • Leadership skills are required more today than thirty years ago.
  • Interpersonal skills are required more today than thirty years ago.
  • Outreach was accomplished by getting people to come to church services thirty years ago.
  • Thirty years ago, there were very few “nones.”
  • The Internet and social media have made pastoring much more challenging than it was thirty years ago.

In this week's episode, we discuss these seven reasons as well as the need for pastors to be involved in social media, and story of my first funeral. It's one I'll never forget.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit blog.lifeway.com/pastorstoday.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Seven Ways Pastoring Has Changed in Thirty Years

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Podcast Episode #035

The recent ruling by U. S. District Judge Barbara Crabb of the Western District of Wisconsin reverberated through churches around the country. When Judge Crabb ruled unconstitutional a provision in the U. S. tax code that allows ministers to declare some or all of their ministerial income as a housing allowance, I heard from pastors all over the country asking "What does this mean?"
I wrote a post the week after the ruling and this week's podcast episode covers that post as well as some additional material. I would encourage you to share this episode with your pastors and with those who set personnel policies at your church. Times and laws are changing and churches need to be informed about these financial issues as we move forward.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastors.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Thoughts on the Court Ruling on the Ministers’ Housing Allowance
  • ERLC
  • Guidestone

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Podcast Episode #034

It doesn't matter where you work; there will always be challenges. Too often, we run from one challenge to a place where the grass looks greener only to discover another challenge. Many times, we would be better served to accept our current challenge instead of running from it because the next move never eradicates the issues automatically.
So what should you consider before leaving a job or accepting another offer? Before you make any career move, I recommend these six steps.

  • Pray about it.
  • Talk to your family.
  • Talk to a close personal friend.
  • Measure the opportunity.
  • Measure your giftedness.
  • Look at the opportunity God has presented to you and make a decision.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid, a leadership training platform which just launched on 11/12/13. Ministry Grid features more than 1,500 videos, including 200 free videos, and is fully customizable to the needs of your church with the option for you to add content, create tracks for different ministries, and track the progress of participants. Ministry Grid offers training for all areas of ministry from the parking lot to the pulpit. It's training made simple. For more information and to check out dozens of free videos or to visit the blog, go to ministrygrid.com.
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Podcast Episode #033

Todd Adkins joins us to discuss the need for improved leadership training in the church and how Ministry Grid can help local churches to produce better leaders and, as a result, healthier churches.
When we were preparing to launch Ministry Grid, our research showed that 75% of pastors surveyed did not have a plan to train their leaders. There were four primary reason for this:

  • Pastors don't know how to train others. It's not a leadership problem as much as it is a leadership development problem.
  • Pastors don't have time, nor do volunteers have the time to sit through lengthy sessions of training.
  • Churches can't afford it. The costs of training conferences or materials were simply too high.
  • There is no framework available to them to use to train their people.

I can relate to this a great deal. One of the areas in which I was deficient as a pastor was equipping the saints to do the work of ministry. If I had Ministry Grid, I would have been asking the questions:

  • What do I need for my church members to be equipped?
  • What are the priorities?
  • Who do I need to equip?

And if I had Ministry Grid back then, I would have been establishing answers to these questions right away. It would have helped me immediately. While I'm no longer pastoring, Ministry Grid is now here to aid in training the next generation of church leaders and pastors. You can find out more at MinistryGrid.com.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid, a leadership training platform which just launched on 11/12/13. Ministry Grid features more than 1,500 videos, including 200 free videos, and is fully customizable to the needs of your church with the option for you to add content, create tracks for different ministries, and track the progress of participants. Ministry Grid offers training for all areas of ministry from the parking lot to the pulpit. It's training made simple. For more information and to check out dozens of free videos or to visit the blog, go to ministrygrid.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Ministry Grid
  • The Perfectly Unified Church

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Podcast Episode #032

Churches are not as healthy as they once were. American churches, by and large, are in trouble. Only about 10% of churches are growing faster than the community in which they are located. Churches are becoming more comfortable, more complacent, more inwardly-focused and more conflict-focused. There are two large approaches to address these issues. One is a renewed emphasis on what it truly means to be a church member. The other is to move beyond focusing on just the church toward a more outward focus.
Yet I remain encouraged for the simple reason that we are beginning to ask the question "why." Once we begin to ask that question, we can begin to discern what some of the things are that we need to do differently. Turnaround is not easy. Problems typically did not occur overnight, and they can't be fixed overnight. But through God's power, it is possible.
We cover all of that and more on this episode of Rainer on Leadership. Also, while we don't mention it specifically in the podcast, Autopsy of a Deceased Church is now available for pre-order.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid, a leadership training platform which just launched on 11/12/13. Ministry Grid features more than 1,500 videos, including 200 free videos, and is fully customizable to the needs of your church with the option for you to add content, create tracks for different ministries, and track the progress of participants. Ministry Grid offers training for all areas of ministry from the parking lot to the pulpit. It's training made simple. For more information and to check out dozens of free videos or to visit the blog, go to ministrygrid.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Five Questions to Ask to See If Your Church Is Dying
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church by Thom S. Rainer
  • I Am a Church Member by Thom S. Rainer

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Podcast Episode #031

Every leader faces criticism. How you respond to that criticism typically indicates how successful you will be as a leader because some criticisms are valid—and some are not. So this week on the podcast, Jonathan and I discuss when to respond to criticism, how to respond, how to be proactive in preventing criticism. In this episode we highlight a recent blog post on the seven ways leaders can develop thicker skin. Those ways are:

  • Don’t take most of the criticisms personally.
  • Pray for the critic.
  • Develop a winsome spirit.
  • Be a transparent leader.
  • Pray for your own attitude.
  • Focus on the majority.
  • Look in the mirror.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid, a leadership training platform which just launched on 11/12/13. Ministry Grid features more than 1,500 videos, including 200 free videos, and is fully customizable to the needs of your church with the option for you to add content, create tracks for different ministries, and track the progress of participants. Ministry Grid offers training for all areas of ministry from the parking lot to the pulpit. It's training made simple. For more information and to check out dozens of free videos or to visit the blog, go to ministrygrid.com.
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Podcast Episode #030

Eric Geiger joins me to tell the story behind Simple Church. While the genesis of the book came from academic research for Eric's doctoral work, the findings were so significant that a book was needed for those in practical ministry. What resulted was a shift in the way churches in America and around the world operated and communicated. In this episode we cover the research found in the book, what made Simple Church so relevant to the church, how it still applies to churches today, and some of our favorite stories that came from writing the book.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by B&H Publishers and the book Simple Church. Now in paperback, multi-awarded #1 national bestseller Simple Church guides Christians back to the simple gospel-sharing methods of Jesus. The updated trade paper edition includes a new chapter with further insights the authors have gained through hundreds of conversations with church leaders since this landmark book’s original release. For more information, visit LifeWay.com/simplechurch.
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Resources

  • Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger

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Podcast Episode #029

Regardless of your profession, when people openly discuss how much or how little you should be paid, it can be uncomfortable. For pastors, this can be magnified. So we deal with how to manage issues related to pastoral and ministerial salaries—and the five things you should know about those salaries. Among the topics Jonathan and I discuss are:

  • Annual raises
  • Special income tax regulations
  • Housing allowances
  • Total package compensation
  • Take home pay

Pastor, if you truly are underpaid—speak up.
Church, if you are underpaying your pastor—step up.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Auxano and the Vision Room. VisionRoom.com is an online gathering of articles, tools and resources designed for church leaders like you who value vision clarity and want to live out that vision in meaningful ways. For more information visit VisionRoom.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Five Things You Should Know about Pastors’ Salaries
  • Five Reasons Your Pastor Will Not Ask for a Raise

  • Eight Common Money Questions Asked by Pastors

  • LifeWay Compensation Study

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Podcast Episode #028

Brad Waggoner joins us this week to discuss the importance of trust to the culture of a church or workplace. We also talk about changing culture, how the culture at LifeWay has changed, and how advances in technology impact culture. Dr. Waggoner also explains what trust and distrust looks like

  • When success comes
  • When we fail
  • In our work habits
  • In our spoken words
  • In how we use our money
  • In our friendships
  • In our relationships

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Pastors Today. This weekly newsletter provides pastors with resources and information from around the web written specifically for pastors. For more information and to subscribe, visit lifeway.com/pastors.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • How Many Hours Must a Pastor Work
  • A Culture of Trust (pdf)

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Podcast Episode #027

For more than two decades I have studied, contemplated, and written about the tenure of a pastor. Why is pastoral tenure relatively brief on the average? Does that tenure contain common and distinct stages? Is there a particular point in the tenure when more pastors leave the church?
The more I study the phenomenon of pastoral tenure, the more I am convinced there are distinct stages with clear characteristics. Certainly I understand that there are numbers of exceptions to my delineations. I am also fully aware that the years I designate for each stage are not precise.

  • Year One: The Honeymoon
  • Years Two and Three: Conflicts and Challenges
  • Years Four and Five: Crossroads (part one)
  • Years Six through Ten: Fruit and Harvest
  • Year 11 and Beyond: Crossroads (part two)

In this episode we address these stages of tenure and how best to lead through them.
Listener Question
Will asks: If a church votes to vacate the pulpit and miss the required amount of 2/3rds but receive the majority should the pastor resign?
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid, a leadership training platform which will launch on 11/12/13. Ministry Grid will feature over 1,500 videos, including more than 200 free videos, and will be fully customizable to the needs of your church with the option for you to add content, create tracks for different ministries, and track the progress of participants. Ministry Grid will offer training for all areas of ministry from the parking lot to the pulpit. It's training made simple. For more information and to check out dozens of free videos or to visit our blog, go to ministrygrid.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Five Stages of a Pastor’s Ministry

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Podcast Episode #024

Jonathan and I discuss my findings from a pair of recent Twitter polls I conducted. While not scientific, these anecdotal results describe the areas pastors love about pastoring—and the areas they do not.
10 Things Pastors Like Most

  • Seeing lives transformed.
  • Preaching.
  • Personal evangelism.
  • The people/members.
  • Developing new relationships.
  • Ministering in the community.
  • Ministering to members.
  • Casting a vision.
  • Staff relationships.
  • Mentoring or discipling one-on-one.

10 Things Pastors Like Least

  • Conflict and complaining church members.
  • Family challenges.
  • Busy work.
  • Members whose priorities are their own comfort and preferences.
  • Expectations to be present at all church functions and many social functions.
  • Non-productive meetings.
  • Expectation to be on call 24/7.
  • Confronting people who are sinning.
  • Problems with staff members.
  • Members who aren’t passionate about evangelism/reaching the community.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the HCSB Bible. Taking into account the significant advancements in scholarship, translation theory, and contemporary English usage, the HCSB will satisfy both those new to the faith and seasoned scholars. Visit HCSB.org for more information.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Seven Things Pastors Would Like Church Members to Know about Their Children
  • Seven Things Pastors’ Wives Wish They Had Been Told Before They Became Pastors’ Wives

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Podcast Episode #023

I recently wrote a blogpost on the eight areas ministers are often unprepared for ministry. The post created quite a stir and brought with it a great discussion. These are areas almost all ministers will experience difficulty at some point in their careers. We look over the points I mentioned in the post and expound on some of the issues involved.

  • Relational intelligence.
  • Leadership skills.
  • Dealing with critics.
  • Family matters.
  • Finances.
  • Consumer mentality.
  • Uneven expectations.
  • Uneven spiritual growth.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid. At MinistryGrid.com you'll find more than 1,000 video sessions on topics, ranging from parking ministry to polity, with more added continually. You can even upload your own content, turn off unwanted content, and put your church's own logo and colors on the site. An intuitive Learning Management System makes assigning courses and tracking progress a snap. It's training made simple. For more information and to get three months free, visit ministrygrid.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • I Am a Church Member
  • Seven Things Pastors Would Like Church Members to Know about Their Children
  • Seven Things Pastors’ Wives Wish They Had Been Told Before They Became Pastors’ Wives

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Podcast Episode #021

Kevin Ezell, President of the North America Mission Board, was my guest this week. On the show we had a great discussion how to lead change. It's something all leaders must deal with at some point and something many struggle with. I asked Kevin four main questions:

  • What has been your greatest challenge in leading change?
  • How do you determine the pace of change that you will lead?
  • How do you respond to critics as you lead change?
  • What advice would you give a pastor who is attempting to lead change?

Listener Questions
From Waylen: All that I have heard on turning a church around seems to focus on a new pastor and his surviving into the 5th and 6 year. What about the long-term pastor who has survived many ups and downs and still wants to see the church grow and be unified? Specifically, I refer to myself, the founding pastor who has been here 36 years.
From Stephen: Our building is about 60 years old and needs updating. I believe this will not only re-establish our church for the next 10 years or more but will excite our people and the community around us. How as I leader do I and a small church bring all this together so that this dream doesn't end up in a puff of smoke?
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Auxano and the Vision Room. VisionRoom.com is an online gathering of articles, tools and resources designed for church leaders like you who value vision clarity and want to live out that vision in meaningful ways. For more information visit VisionRoom.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources

  • Send Conference
  • NAMB.net

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Podcast Episode #020

One of the most polarizing posts recently on the blog was one on what non-Christians think about Christians. Jonathan and I expound on that topic and the discussion that surrounded the post. The four points conveyed to me through blog comments from non-Christians were:

  • Demonstrate Respect and the Interest of Others
  • Don’t Condescend and Discriminate
  • Really Care about the Non-Christian and Show It
  • Demonstrate Compassion and Respect

I had already received much of this same feedback when Nellie Jo and I were researching and conducting interviews for our book The Unexpected Journey. Over the years, it seems that opinions of Christians haven't changed much from before.
Finally, since this weekend is the opening weekend of college football, we just had to address that as well. Roll Tide.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by LifeWay Research. LifeWay Research assists and equips church leaders with insight and advice that will lead to greater levels of church health and effectiveness. Let LifeWay Research improve the impact of your ministry by improving communications, focusing leadership, mobilizing believers, understanding trends, discovering opportunities, and reaching new people. Visit them online at LifeWayResearch.com.
Feedback
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Resources

  • The Unexpected Journey
  • The Unchurched Next Door

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Podcast Episode #019

For the past few years, I've shared a list here at ThomRainer.com of the largest churches in the SBC (2010, 2011, 2012). It's a perennial top post because, no matter your opinion of megachurches, there is a certain fascination that surrounds the megachurch phenomenon. While megachurches are not new, they are more prominent than ever. And the big ones have gotten even larger.
Jonathan and I review the top ten largest churches in the SBC. We also discuss this growing fascination with megachurches and what they mean for smaller churches that might sit in their shadows. At the end of the show, we look back to 1992 and the top 10 churches and see that while the sizes might have changed, many of the names have not.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by LifeWay Research. LifeWay Research assists and equips church leaders with insight and advice that will lead to greater levels of church health and effectiveness. Let LifeWay Research improve the impact of your ministry by improving communications, focusing leadership, mobilizing believers, understanding trends, discovering opportunities, and reaching new people. Visit them online at LifeWayResearch.com.
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Podcast Episode #018

We hear the phrase most often associated with political offices, but the first 100 days in a new job are extremely important to the rest of your employment. You can learn so much about an organization, the expectations others have of you, and hopefully gain advice that will help prevent potential issues in the future. So in this week's episode, Jonathan and I review a recent blogpost talking about a pastor's first 90 days and expand on it while also relating it to secular employment. My nine steps were:

  • Spend significant time in the Word for your sermons. (Obviously this applies more to the pastorate, but time in the Word is still important for Christian leaders.)
  • Listen.
  • Be visible.
  • Be accessible.
  • Find low-hanging fruit.
  • Learn the powerbrokers. 
  • Go into the community.
  • Express your enthusiasm about being their pastor.
  • Don’t speak badly about your previous church. 

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the HCSB Bible. Taking into account the significant advancements in scholarship, translation theory, and contemporary English usage, the HCSB will satisfy both those new to the faith and seasoned scholars. Visit HCSB.org for more information.
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Podcast Episode #017

A look recent post I wrote on a pastor's work week. I took a survey of my deacons when I was pastoring in St. Petersburg Florida back in the 1980s. I listed several congregational responsibilities and asked them to share the minimum amount of time I should average in each area each week. I listed about twenty areas; but they were free to add other responsibilities to the blank lines.
I’m not sure exactly what I was anticipating. I just know that I was shocked when I tallied the results. In order to meet those twelve deacons minimum expectations I had to fulfill the following responsibilities each week:

  • Prayer at the church: 14 hours
  • Sermon preparation: 18 hours
  • Outreach and evangelism: 10 hours
  • Counseling: 10 hours
  • Hospital and home visits: 15 hours
  • Administrative functions: 18 hours
  • Community involvement: 5 hours
  • Denominational involvement: 5 hours
  • Church meetings: 5 hours
  • Worship services/preaching: 4 hours
  • Other: 10 hours

Total: 114 hours/week
Some commenters on the post asked about another pastoral duty that was not covered in the survey: weddings and funerals. So in the podcast we touched on that as well as whether or not payments for those services should be included in a pastor's compensation package.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Auxano and the Vision Room. VisionRoom.com is an online gathering of articles, tools and resources designed for church leaders like you who value vision clarity and want to live out that vision in meaningful ways. For more information visit VisionRoom.com.
Feedback
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Resources

  • Essential Church by Sam Rainer and Thom Rainer

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Podcast Episode #016

My oldest son, Sam, joins us for this week's podcast. In the show, we discussed the importance of mentoring younger leaders and raising up the next generation of pastors as well as pastoring established churches. Sam's journey is one that is different than the majority of younger pastors in that he has spent most of his time at established churches and has only been on church staffs as a pastor. Sam also shares his paradigm for ministry: serve first and lead second.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Essential Church, a book based on a study of one-thousand so-called "church dropouts" who were interviewed about why they left. Their answers are quite surprising, having less to do with "losing their religion" and more about the desire for a community that isn't made stale by simply maintaining the status quo.
Feedback
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Resources

  • Essential Church by Sam Rainer and Thom Rainer

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Podcast Episode #015

We explore five qualities to look for when hiring a new team member. These qualities apply to any level of employment and in both church and secular hiring processes. Based on this post, the five qualities to look for are:

  • Character
  • Competency
  • Chemistry
  • Alignment
  • Trust

Near the end of the episode, I also share some questions and examples you can use to help judge potential candidates on these five qualities. It is vital to have the right people on your teams. Looking for these five qualities when hiring is essential to making your team the best it can be.
Episode Sponsor
I'd like to thank this week's sponsor: Ministry Grid. At MinistryGrid.com you'll find more than 1,000 video sessions on topics, ranging from parking ministry to polity, with more added continually. You can even upload your own content, turn off unwanted content, and put your church's own logo and colors on the site. An intuitive Learning Management System makes assigning courses and tracking progress a snap. It's training made simple. For more information and to get three months free, visit ministrygrid.com
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Podcast Episode #013

I recently addressed the importance of aligning your small groups to the direction of the church. It was something that I struggled with as a pastor. I didn't know what our classes were going through in their studies. They could have easily been going in a different direction than the church was headed, and I would have never known. This is a critical issue in the church, and it's also a fine line for a pastor to walk. He shouldn't be dictatorial about what is studied in the small groups, but he does need to be informed and needs to set the vision and direction of the small groups.
We address five dangers of not having your small groups aligned with the vision of the church. Those dangers are:

  • Because preaching is held to a higher standard, the perception becomes that the small group teaching is just not that important.
  • The vision of the church could be distracted or derailed.
  • It opens the door for heretical teaching.
  • It takes away from the unity of the church.
  • It does not allow for strategic teaching.

Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Discipleship in Context. Discipleship in Context creates truly custom Bible studies for churches like yours that perfectly reflect your vision, ministry goals, and community context. For more information, visit DiscipleshipInContext.com.
Feedback
If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Related Resources

  • I Am A Church Member
  • Discipleship in Context
  • Bible Studies for Life
  • The Gospel Project
  • Explore the Bible

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Podcast Episode #012

John Croyle was recently our guest at LifeWay. While he was in town, I had a chance to sit down with him and discuss Alabama football, the Big Oak Ranch, manhood, and leadership. It is a fascinating interview with a fascinating man. If you're not familiar with John or the Big Oak Ranch, I would encourage you to visit their website BigOak.org. Hundreds of kids have been impacted by John and his ministry over the years. I'm proud to call him a friend and excited that he could share his story through this episode of Rainer on Leadership.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by The Two-Minute Drill to Manhood, John's game plan that will help moms and dads make sure their sons are ready for authentic manhood. Based on Croyle's life and experience parenting more than 1,800 abused and neglected children on the Big Oak Ranch for Boys and Girls, he drills down into seven actionable life principles drawn from the word "manhood" itself.
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Podcast Episode #011

We discuss a recent post on the blog dealing with how to overcome pastoral burnout. Burnout is a real and present danger to those in ministry, and these 12 tips will help you or your pastor know when to recognize burnout and how to overcome it.
Listener Questions
Tom asks: Why do leaders/pastors quit?
Fred asks: When a pastor is bivocational and works another full-time job on top of his church responsibilities how can he accomplish his calling of preaching the word, equipng the saints for ministry, and meet all the expectations of the membership while at the same time be a good husband and father to his family?
Rex asks:  Should Pastors take refresh classes or time for refreshing after a certain number of years in minstry?
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Auxano and the Vision Room. VisionRoom.com is an online gathering of articles, tools and resources designed for church leaders like you who value vision clarity and want to live out that vision in meaningful ways. For more information visit VisionRoom.com.
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Podcast Episode #010

Jess Rainer joins us as we discuss Millennials, the church, and culture. As we state in the book, Millennials value education, tarry to marry, and reflect diversity. They also are a hopeful generation, a relational generation, a generation of learners, and a less religious generation. The future of the church in the 21st century will be shaped by Millennials and our response to this generation as a whole.
Listener Question
Horace asks: What are the current trends that will impact the church today that we need to focus on?
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This week's podcast is brought to you by B&H Publishing group and the book The Millennials. The Millennials is based on 1,200 interviews with its namesakes that aim to better understand them personally, professionally, and spiritually. Chapters report intriguing how-and-why findings on family matters, their desire for diversity, Millennials and the new workplace, their attitude toward money, the media, the environment, and perhaps most tellingly, religion.
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Resources in this Episode

  • The Millennials by Thom Rainer and Jess Rainer

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Podcast Episode #009

We explore the six levels of leadership found in my book Breakout Churches. Originally based on Jim Collins' Good to Great, Breakout Churches explores the reasons churches moved from decline to breakout growth. One common factor in breakout growth was outstanding leadership.
When we finished processing the data for the book, we found a distinct correlation between the 6 levels of leadership and characteristics found in the first seven chapters of Acts:

  • Acts 1: The Called Leader
  • Acts 2: The Contributing Leader
  • Acts 3: The Outwardly-Focused Leader
  • Acts 4: The Passionate Leader
  • Acts 5: The Bold Leader
  • Acts 6/7: The Legacy Leader

Acts 6/7 leadership is desperately needed. May we all strive to become Acts 6/7 leaders by God’s grace and for His glory.
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This week's podcast is brought to you by Breakout Churches. This book furnishes both principles and examples to show how you as a pastor or church leader can help your church break out of the status quo into unprecedented fruitfulness. Of the thousands of churches examined in the study, thirteen met the criteria for a “breakout church.” All of them experienced both a period of struggle and a time of sustained breakout growth under the same pastor’s leadership. Transitioning from mediocrity to excellence over several years, they grew to have an impact on the entire community. Visit LifeWay.com or your local Christian bookstore to get your copy today.
Listener Questions
From Caleb - What would you say to a young leader in a church that shows many signs of being in decline? As a pastor in his 20s on staff with 4 other older (some much older) pastors how do I influence the culture when my position does not lend itself to influence? When does the time come to invest my energy in another ministry rather than in a culture of a declining church?
From Joseph - Is a leadership position meant for everyone?
From Ken - How do you motivate church leaders, like deacons who have been in a rut for many years, only taking care of the "business" part of the church?
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Resources in This Episode

  • Breakout Churches by Thom Rainer
  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • Good to Great by Jim Collins

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Podcast Episode #008

Jonathan and I explore some personal stories and some reader submissions from a recent post on preaching distractions. We talk about plumbing issues, flying shoes, ripped pants, overzealous janitors, and more. We also cover how to recover when something like this happens, and how best to prevent them from happening. While the ministry of a pastor should be taken very seriously, we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously.
You'll also learn what the phrase "Turn on Jesus" means.
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This week's podcast is brought to you by the HCSB Bible. Taking into account the significant advancements in scholarship, translation theory, and contemporary English usage, the HCSB will satisfy both those new to the faith and seasoned scholars. Visit HCSB.org for more information.
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Podcast Episode #007

I sit down with Frank Page to discuss his new book, Melissa, which chronicles his daughter's suicide. When Frank decided to write a book about Melissa, he took the courageous path. There are no false platitudes in this book. No syrupy cover-up for the distinguished Page family. No holding back. The book delivers one hard punch after another. It details the day Melissa took her life. And Frank writes again and again about Melissa’s last words on that fateful day: “Daddy, I love you.”
You will hear his love for his daughter and the grief that he has experienced since her death. It is an honest, emotional response to what can only be described as every parent's greatest fear.
After you listen to this interview, please read the book. Read it for your ministry. Read it for your family. Read it for yourself.
Perhaps a movement will grow from this book. Perhaps lives will be saved because we have a greater awareness and sensitivity to this darkness. Perhaps we will learn to love more deeply. Perhaps we will become more compassionate people.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by the book Melissa: A Father's Lessons from a Daughter's Suicide. As you've heard today, it's a story of finding beauty in ashes, a book of wisdom and hope, and a resource the church can use to directly address an all-too-real problem. Visit LifeWay.com or your local Christian bookstore to get your copy today.
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • Melissa by Frank Page

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Podcast Episode #006

In last week's podcast episode on An Autopsy of a Deceased Church, we examined what had led to the death of a church I had previously consulted. But the story doesn't end there. Today we look at six steps to turning around a church that is either dying or not growing. Once again, three themes emerged:

  • Leadership
  • Humility/Selflessness
  • Returning the Focus to God and the Community

Listener questions this week:
From Shawn - How do you lead congragents that have not been exposed to the leadership qualities that you have recommended? I know that it does not happen overnight; however, we are talking about a rethinking on everyone's part.
From Michael - How do you lead a church to become healthy when they have been unhealthy for so many years.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Ministry Grid. At MinistryGrid.com you'll find more than 1,000 video sessions on topics, ranging from parking ministry to polity, with more added continually. You can even upload your own content, turn off unwanted content, and put your church's own logo and colors on the site. An intuitive Learning Management System makes assigning courses and tracking progress a snap. It's training made simple. For more information and to get three months free, visit ministrygrid.com.
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church by Thom Rainer
  • MinistryGrid.com
  • Breakout Churches by Thom Rainer
  • Good to Great by Jim Collins
  • Eating the Elephant: Leading the Established Church to Growth by Thom Rainer

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Podcast Episode #005

When I first wrote An Autopsy of a Deceased Church, I thought it had potential to strike a chord with readers. I had no idea the response would be as overwhelming as it has been. Today deals with the three major themes that led to the death of a church I had consulted a decade ago. Those themes were:

  • The church became inwardly focused.
  • Self-centeredness won the day.
  • The church forgot their mission.

In light of those themes, this week's episode further explores the original post as well as the following topics related to church health:

  • The first step to evaluate your church's health.
  • Why a pastor should not do church health evaluations on his own and why a team should be involved instead.
  • Advice on hiring church consultants. Should you or not?
  • Advice for the "good and faithful church member" who is part of a dying church and wants to see it revived.

Finally, don't miss the discussion about church signage and visitors. I've written on this issue before (part one, part two), but it bears repeating: When a guest has a good experience, he or she is more likely to return. So be sure that your facilities are well-maintained and inviting.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Auxano and the Vision Room. VisionRoom.com is an online gathering of articles, tools and resources designed for church leaders like you who value vision clarity and want to live out that vision in meaningful ways. For more information visit VisionRoom.com.
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If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.
Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • Autopsy of a Deceased Church by Thom Rainer
  • VisionRoom.com
  • Auxano

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Podcast Episode #004

Since this episode of Rainer on Leadership is releasing on Mother's Day weekend, Selma Wilson joined me to talk about parenting and the importance of raising godly children.
Among the topics we covered were the importance of praying for your children and their future spouses should they marry. We also discuss the need to devote time to your family as well as what to do when you blow it as a parent—like the time I called my soon-to-be daughter-in-law the wrong name in her wedding ceremony.
Episode Sponsor
This week's podcast is brought to you by Love Dare for Parents, a 40-day journey of “dares” challenging one or both parents to understand, practice, and communicate Christ-like love to their children.
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • Raising Dad by Thom Rainer and Art Rainer
  • The Parent Adventure by Rodney Wilson, Selma Wilson, and Scott McConnell
  • Love Dare for Parents by Alex Kendrick and Stephen Kendrick
  • HomeLife magazine
  • ParentLife magazine
  • Parenting Teens magazine
  • More Living magazine

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Podcast Episode #003

Today we continue our discussion on church membership.
Last week we talked about what church membership is and what it means to be a church member—how it's not just having your name on a roll somewhere, but being actively involved in the ministry and function of your local community of faith. This week's episode deals with NOT being a church member. Specifically the main reason people LEAVE a church.
In an earlier post, I listed the following reasons people leave a church:

  • “The worship leader refused to listen to me about the songs and music I wanted.”
  • “The pastor did not feed me.”
  • “No one from my church visited me.”
  • “I was not about to support the building program they wanted.”
  • “I was out two weeks and no one called me.”
  • “They moved the times of the worship services and it messed up my schedule.”
  • “I told my pastor to go visit my cousin and he never did.”

Do you see the theme there?
Here are the five ways I recommend closing the back door in churches:

  • Inform church members.
  • Raise the bar of expectations.
  • Mentor members.
  • Train members.
  • Encourage people to be in small groups.

Episode Sponsor
You can pick up your copy of I Am a Church Member at your local bookstore or online retailer. At many retailers, churches can also get a bulk case of 20 for $5 per book to use in their churches.
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • The Present Future by Reggie McNeal
  • Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger
  • Mentor by Chuck Lawless

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Podcast Episode #002

The topic is my new book, I Am a Church Member. The book releases on May 1, 2013, but is likely already available in most retail stores and online.
One of this book's unique characteristics is that it was birthed out of a post here on the blog. When many people think of church membership, they may think that it just means their name is on a roll at a church. And in some faith traditions it means you were baptized or christened at that church. But it's actually much more than that. It's about an attitude, not an action. And in the book I lay out six basic principles for church membership:

  • I Will Be a Unifying Church Member
  • I Will Not Let the Church Be About My Preferences and Desires
  • I Will Pray for My Church Leaders
  • I Will Lead My Family to Be Healthy Church Members
  • I Will Be a Functioning Member
  • I Will Treasure Church Membership as a Gift

Episode Sponsor
You can pick up your copy of I Am a Church Member at your local bookstore or online retailer. At many retailers, churches can also get a bulk case of 20 for $5 per book to use in their churches.
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

  • I Am a Church Member by Thom Rainer
  • The Present Future by Reggie McNeal

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Podcast Episode #001

On this debut episode of Rainer on Leadership, I discussed a recent blog series (part one • part two) on "Ten Ways Ordinary People Become Good Leaders." Here are the ten traits:

  • They determine that their integrity would not be compromised.
  • They work hard.
  • They take responsibility for themselves.
  • They are decisive.
  • They read a lot.
  • They have genuine humility.
  • They seek mentors.
  • They avoid ruts.
  • They have a sense of humor.
  • They are goal setters.

Episode Sponsor
At MinistryGrid.com you'll find more than 1,000 video sessions on topics, ranging from parking ministry to polity, with more added continually. You can even upload your own content, turn off unwanted content, and put your church's own logo and colors on the site. An intuitive learning management system makes assigning courses and tracking progress a snap. It's training made simple. For more information and to get three months free, visit ministrygrid.com.
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If you have a question you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at ThomRainer.com.

  • Mentor: How Along-the-Way Discipleship Will Change Your Life by Chuck Lawless
  • Profitable Growth is Everyone's Business: 10 Tools You Can Use Monday Morning by Ram Charan
  • Simple Church:Returning to God’s Process for Making Disciples by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger
  • Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap... and Others Don't by Jim Collins
  • The Essential Drucker: The Best Sixty Years of Peter Drucker's Essential Writings on Management by Peter F. Drucker