Bible and Homosexuality: An LGBTQ Positive View: Recent Episodes
Elton Sherwin
If you are looking for a queer positive and affirming view of the Bible, or you have a child, friend, relative or even a pastor who is struggling with these issues this series is for you.
In this series we will address the “clobber verses” conservative churches use incorrectly to condemn same-sex couples. More importantly, we will discuss the many affirming verses in scripture God uses to bless sexual and gender minorities.
The series was researched by Elton Sherwin, a retired executive and former Bible study leader.
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“I’m afraid I’m going to hell because I’m not attracted to men. Please give me an unbiased interpretation of Romans 1.”
We received this question from a young woman, M.V.
This podcast was created by one of Google’s newest AI engines, NotebookLM. (https://notebookLM.google.com)
We gave NotebookLM M.V.’s question and these six quotes:
1.Justin Lee, from the book: “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate”:
“Paul’s writings in Romans 1 are about people who turned away from God and engaged in lustful, excessive behaviors. This is different from a loving, committed same-sex relationship.”
2.Janet Edmonds who I have quoted frequently in this series, says in part: “The behavior Paul (…author of the book of Romans…) was addressing here is explicitly associated with idol worship (probably temple prostitution…’
“In the surrounding culture it was common for men of a higher status to take sexual advantage of male slaves or male prostitutes…”
“The laws at the time in Rome allowed a master to demand sexual services from any slave, male or female”
“Paul was not talking about homosexuality and didn’t have in mind specifically prohibiting consensual same-sex relationships.”
3.Matthew Vines, in his book “God and the Gay Christian”: says
“Paul’s references to ‘unnatural’ relations in Romans 1:26-27 are often misunderstood. He was addressing specific cultural practices of his time, not committed, loving same-sex relationships as we understand them today.”
4.Rev. Dr. Mel White, Book: “What the Bible Says—and Doesn’t Say—about Homosexuality”:
“Romans 1:26-27 must be read in the context of the entire chapter, which condemns idolatry and excessive lust, not loving same-sex relationships.”
5.Kathy Baldock, in her book “Walking the Bridgeless Canyon”:
“Paul’s use of ‘natural’ and ‘unnatural’ in Romans 1 reflects the cultural norms of his time, not a universal condemnation of same-sex relationships.”
6.James Brownson, “Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church’s Debate on Same-Sex Relationships”:
“Romans 1, 26 and 27 addresses behaviors that were seen as dishonorable and excessive, not the loving, committed relationships we see today.”
For more information about NotebookLM:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LMPb9JJnosPj8SPVRSF9z?si=rrOjkTrAR0eGO0Otrv5zfg&t=1466&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A44fllCS2FTFr2x2kjP9xeT
What do you say to a gay son or daughter when they come out?
With the benefit of hindsight Linda Robertson shares her thoughts on what she wishes she had said to her 12-year-old son Ryan when he came out.
This podcast is extracted from an interview with Doctor Becky Astae on her podcast, Your Breakthrough Blueprint, from an emotional episode called, Can I love God and my gay son too?
The complete interview is available on:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0O222LNg1w96K5VjlTOIkK?si=JZW0jHFnTvOhUDb3td-FLA
And Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-breakthrough-blueprint-with-becky-aste-for-the/id1676348200?i=1000664115395
Additional resources:
Linda’s website and original post: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/
Helpful resources recommended by Linda: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/resources/
https://reformationproject.org/resources/
https://www.qchristian.org/
Linda and Ryan’s Story:
Linda’s blog: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/blog-posts/
Long version filmed at Towne View Baptist Church in Kennesaw, GA in May 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3xiDek0aXg
Shorter version at NorthPoint Church in Atlanta from May 2021, which includes a question-and-answer session (helpful for parents):
https://youtu.be/wNS77sfT2zY?si=gzqrA6Yn1dzoRTYa
You can also view their story as part of the movie: For They Know Not What They Do, available on:
Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/They-Know-Not-What-Do/dp/B08HQYQJLC/
and iTunes: https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/for-they-know-not-what-they-do/umc.cmc.2fm6il6v1aw47v5nvdv16w1nc
Linda’s Parent Support Group that meets every Wednesday: https://fs9.formsite.com/4BUph1/amlfznmjbc/index.html
The QChristian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/
The QChristian Fellowship Parent team: https://www.qchristian.org/parents
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
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I am 12-years old and gay.
In 2001, Ryan Robertson, 12-years old, reached out to his mother on Instant Messenger. Their lives forever changed.
Then, 11 years later, Linda Robertson told their story publicly on Facebook, hoping that it would help other families avoid the missteps and pain they experienced.
Here is the original Facebook post, read and dramatized by AI generated voices. I have changed only a few words for clarity.
Linda’s website and original FB post: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/
Helpful resources recommended by Linda: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/resources/
https://reformationproject.org/resources/
https://www.qchristian.org/
Linda and Ryan’s Story:
Linda’s blog: https://justbecausehebreathes.com/blog-posts/
Long version filmed at Towne View Baptist Church in Kennesaw, GA in May 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3xiDek0aXg
Shorter version at NorthPoint Church in Atlanta from May 2021, which includes a question-and-answer session (helpful for parents):
https://youtu.be/wNS77sfT2zY?si=gzqrA6Yn1dzoRTYa
You can also view their story as part of the movie: For They Know Not What They Do, available on:
Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/They-Know-Not-What-Do/dp/B08HQYQJLC/
and iTunes: https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/for-they-know-not-what-they-do/umc.cmc.2fm6il6v1aw47v5nvdv16w1nc
Linda’s Parent Support Group that meets every Wednesday: https://fs9.formsite.com/4BUph1/amlfznmjbc/index.html
The QChristian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/
The QChristian Fellowship Parent team: https://www.qchristian.org/parents
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
AI synthesized speech: Speechelo and Descrpt
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Almost half its users are Queer: Dateability is a dating app designed for the disabled and chronically ill communities.
Individuals with disabilities or chronic illness often encounter problems on dating apps. Alexa and Jacqueline Child have created Dateability, a safe and accepting space to find meaningful connections for people with physical, intellectual, and psychiatric disabilities.
To learn more about Dateability:
https://info.dateabilityapp.com/
Quote from Autism Research Center: https://autism.org/lgbtq-and-autism/
Elton’s Three Affirming Podcasts:
Bible and Homosexuality: An LGBTQ Positive View
https://open.spotify.com/show/4hXGABXM2JxyBJNAtqwc0m
The Queer Christian: Navigating Faith, Church and the Bible:
https://open.spotify.com/show/2iDmc5boju3rZyAYqiLOUA
La Biblia y La Homosexualidad - Valorando Minorías Sexuales: https://open.spotify.com/show/1prENuZWHDjYUsiRU684pd
Elton’s Three Rotary Podcasts:
Development Success Stories: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ezxqZIuL6OMFHC7dYLhNK
Inspiring Solutions for a Better World: https://open.spotify.com/show/4IDQhRnwnT1iqINDJo6rXc
The Weekly Rotarian:
https://open.spotify.com/show/3fbnO3K6fxKt9pfaTp8mYn
To learn more about the Rotary eClub of Silicon Valley: https://siliconvalleyrotary.com/
I'm excited to announce that in collaboration with Gisell Quihuis, the Director of Faculty Development and Diversity at the Stanford University School of Medicine, we have created a Spanish Version of this podcast called: “La Biblia y La Homosexualidad”
In this episode I also introduce my AI generated Spanish co-host, Catalina Maestra, who will be making appearances in some future English episodes.
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech using: Maestra.ai
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June, a transgender listener, shares their pre-transition struggles and brings a unique perspective to Matthew 19:12.
For more on Matthew 19, and Jesus’s affirming words, see episodes: 6, 7, and 16.
Link to various translations of Matthew 19:12: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2019:12
Link to the history of the transgender flag: https://www.pointofpride.org/blog/the-history-of-the-transgender-flag
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech also using Descript
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Is same sex attraction a mental illness?
UCLA Prof. Evelyn Hooker, whose research showed that gay men were just as mentally healthy as straight men. And how one cleverly designed experiment changed the views of many medical professionals and theologians.
Articles quoted:
Catholic Catechism: https://www.usccb.org/sites/default/files/flipbooks/catechism/568/
The Pope Speaks: https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-pope-chile-gay-20180520-story.html#:~:text=In%202013%2C%20Francis%20famously%20said,Catholic%20views%20on%20sexual%20orientationand https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/20/pope-juan-carlos-cruz
Early DSMs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4695779/#:~:text=Moor%20%5B44%5D;%20Tripp%20%5B45,as%20a%20%E2%80%9Csexual%20deviation.%E2%80%9D
APA on same-sex attraction: https://www.psychiatry.org/file%20library/about-apa/organization-documents-policies/policies/position-2013-homosexuality.pdf (see second sentence)
Mainstream health organizations:https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts#:~:text=the%20idea%20that%20homosexuality
Finding Affirming, Sex-Positive Counselors Who Do NOT Believe in Conversion Therapy:
•https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/therapy-for-lgbt#organizations
•https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/california?category=gay (Find the LGBTQ Affirming pull-down or edit the URL and replace “California” with “Texas” or whatever state you’re in)
•https://www.choosingtherapy.com/finding-an-lgbtq-therapist/
•https://allintherapyclinic.com/how-to-find-an-lgbt-affirming-therapist/
•https://directory.choosingtherapy.com/
•https://lgbtqhealthcaredirectory.org/
On-line therapy:
•https://www.choosingtherapy.com/best-lgbtq-online-therapy-options/
•https://www.talkspace.com/online-therapy/lgbtqia
This episode challenges conventional messages on well-being and prompts listeners to question what truly contributes to their wellbeing and living “The Good Life.”
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Episode Cover art: Microsoft Copilot
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Pastor Danielle Parrish explores the profound biblical narrative of lost sheep, coins, and sons, emphasizing God's inclusive love.
She challenges traditional interpretations by asserting the equal importance of women in Jesus' teachings, presenting a powerful message of inclusivity and unconditional love.
Drawing from her deep understanding of first-century Jewish cultural, she takes you on a journey through Luke 15, highlighting the interconnectedness of lost sheep, lost coins, and a prodigal son, viewing these parables as one continuous narrative that invites everyone to God's table of celebration.
Danielle Parrish is the lead pastor of Spark Church, in Palo Alto, California: www.spark.church
Scriptures quoted:•Luke 15•Ephesians 3:14-19•Galatians 3:28
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
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The podcast reflects on Pastor Steve Reed's Christmas letter, lamenting the changes in white evangelicalism and criticizing its failure to align with Jesus' teachings.
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech using: https://maestra.ai/
Episode cover art generated by https://pixlr.comAI prompt: “a patriotic American Jesus”
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We discuss the deeply flawed practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation.
Related Episodes:
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Paul, Gay Marriage and Gender Pronouns
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Why Young Christians Are Leaving the Church and Some Are Committing Suicide
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The Problems with Purity
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When Is Sex Between Two Unmarried People God Honoring? (Seven rules for sex between unmarried people)
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A Trans Christian's Quest for Authenticity
Movies Referenced:
Boy Erased: https://www.netflix.com/title/80240538
- Review quoted from The Jesuit Post: https://thejesuitpost.org/2018/11/boy-erased-conversion-therapy-and-the-catholic-church/
Pray Away: https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370
- Review quoted from Conscience Magazine: https://www.catholicsforchoice.org/resource-library/netflixs-pray-away-exposes-conversion-therapy-fraud/
Articles and Websites Quoted:
- The American Psychological Association (APA): https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts
- The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html
- Time magazine: https://time.com/3065495/9-ex-leaders-of-the-gay-conversion-therapy-movement-apologize/
- The AMA calls for ban: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/american-medical-association-backs-nationwide-conversion-therapy-ban-n1088731
Statistics quoted:
- Alan Chambers quote, “99.9% have not experienced a change in their orientation” from: https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/ or https://www.npr.org/2013/06/20/193965227/group-that-claimed-to-cure-gays-disbands-leader-apologizes
- Post conversion therapy suicide ideation rate of 28% from Statista https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053024/lgbtq-youth-in-us-attempted-suicide-conversion-therapy-experience/
- Trans children exposed to conversion therapy at a young age are four times more likely to report lifetime suicide attempts: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-conversion-therapy-associated-severe-psychological-distress-n1052416
Finding Affirming, Sex-Positive Counselors Who Do NOT Believe in Conversion Therapy:
- https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/therapy-for-lgbt#organizations
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/california?category=gay (Find the LGBTQ Affirming pull-down or edit the URL and replace “California” with “Texas” or whatever state you’re in)
- https://www.choosingtherapy.com/finding-an-lgbtq-therapist/
- https://allintherapyclinic.com/how-to-find-an-lgbt-affirming-therapist/
- https://directory.choosingtherapy.com/
- https://lgbtqhealthcaredirectory.org/
On-line therapy:
- https://www.choosingtherapy.com/best-lgbtq-online-therapy-options/
- https://www.talkspace.com/online-therapy/lgbtqia
Benefits of Church Attendance for Adults and Children:
- https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/regularly-attending-religious-services-associated-with-lower-risk-of-deaths-of-despair/
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11302358/
- https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/49/6/2030/5892419
Additional References and Resources
- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
- https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ending-conversion-therapy/
- https://glaad.org/conversiontherapy/
- https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy
- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/faith-leaders-lgbtq-conversion-therapy-ban_n_5fda6074c5b650b99ad93787
- https://www.newportacademy.com/resources/mental-health/conversion-therapy-pray-away/
- https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-56496423
- https://web.archive.org/web/20230405193059/https://exodusinternational.org/2013/06/i-am-sorry/
- https://youtu.be/Ea10c6VXVx8?si=VebC4DTN9m37bkwD&t=197
- https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Policy_Statements/2018/Conversion_Therapy.aspx
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy
All quotes edited for clarity and brevity, and red by descript not the original authors.
The vibrant diversity of gender-fluid and non-binary individuals in Native American cultures; the tragic ban of same-sex marriages by the Navajo Nation Council; and the role of Christian churches in a cultural genocide, which attempted to erase the history of Two-Spirit individuals and their unique and respected roles in many tribes.
Quoted or referenced in podcast:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/23/navajo-gay-marriage-ban-lgbtq/
https://lgbtqhealth.ca/community/two-spirit.php
https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/health/twospirit/
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/oct/11/two-spirit-people-north-america
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%203%3A28&version=RSV
Additional References
https://www.theindigenousfoundation.org/articles/the-history-of-two-spirit-folks
https://www.kqed.org/arts/13845330/5-two-spirit-heroes-who-paved-the-way-for-todays-native-lgbtq-community
https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-two-spirit-native-americans-changing-the-world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
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Aiden Yang's transformation as he liberates the good troublemaker within, explores the Beatitudes, and finds inspiration from rapper Bad Bunny.
Aiden Yang, a Trans-Christian Asian American, describes the many challenges to living true to your authentic self: Challenges from your church; challenges from your family; and challenges from a capitalist society.
Aiden takes you on a transformative journey to embrace your shadow self and live authentically. Aiden shares insights from his personal experience and draws parallels with the Beatitudes, challenging societal norms and finding inspiration from rapper Bad Bunny's countercultural journey.
Aiden’s website: https://aidensyang.com
About Aiden:
- https://aidensyang.com/about-aiden
- https://youtu.be/1IVEFNLlC54
Aiden’s book, “The Spineless Porcupine: Why Our Differences Are Superpowers”
- https://aidensyang.com/book
- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PNJPS1H/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_93WYFb7ED3J6X
Aiden’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/love_n_cr8ivity/
Aiden’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sayme/
This sermon was originally delivered at Bethel Community Church in San Leandro, CA and has been edited for this podcast.
https://bethelcommunitysl.org
Podcast produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
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1946
About the movie: 1946 - THE MISTRANSLATION THAT SHIFTED CULTURE
This is a feature documentary that follows the story of tireless researchers who trace the origins of the anti-gay movement among Christians to a grave mistranslation of the Bible in 1946.
It chronicles the discovery of never-before-seen archives at Yale University which unveil astonishing new revelations, and casts significant doubt on any biblical basis for LGBTQIA+ prejudice.
Movie Reviews:
“POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FILM OF THE DECADE…” Steve Koplan, UNSEEN FILMS
“…one of the most engaging and informative documentaries I've ever seen. Not only is it highly watchable, but it has the potential to be ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL FILMS OF THE CENTURY as it seeks to prove that queerness and religion were never meant to be at odds. A must-watch for anyone trying to reconcile the two. ” Matthew Huff, BUZZFEED
Website: https://www.1946themovie.com
Newsletter: https://www.1946themovie.com/subscribe
GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/1946themovie
Social media handle: @1946themovie on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook
The movie’s team:
- Directed By: Sharon “Rocky” Roggio
- Executive Produced By: Daniel Karslake
- Produced By: Jena Serbu And Sharon “Rocky” Roggio
- Original Music By: Mary Lambert
Women Make Movies: https://www.wmm.com/sponsored-project/1946-the-mistranslation-that-shifted-culture
Podcast written and produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech using: Speechelo
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7 Bible scriptures that are MISUSED to condemn the LGBTQIA+ Community.
Janet sets the record straight.
In this episode, the second half of Janet Edmonds new leaflet, we look at 7 Bible scriptures that are INCORRECTLY used to condemn sexual minorities.
Links to Janet's writing:
Janet's leaflet, read in this podcast: GOD LOVES YOU - God Loves All of the LGBTQIA+ Community!!
- https://www.slideshare.net/EltonSherwin/god-loves-you-leaflet-by-janet-edmondspdf
More details and scholarly references can be found in Janet’s longer white paper which is published several places:
- https://tiny.cc/Janet1
- https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses
- In a PDF: https://elcvienna.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Booklet-about-Homosexuality-and-the-Bible-Sept.-2016.pdf
Podcast written and produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech using: Speechelo
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Using the Bible to condemn all queer people is a MISINTERPRETATION of the original scriptures and the initial purpose of why they were written.
In this episode, the first half of Janet Edmonds new leaflet, a look at two AMAZING Bible scriptures that are AFFIRMING and ENCOURAGING for the LGBTQIA+ Community.
Links to Janet's writing:
Janet's leaflet, read in this podcast: GOD LOVES YOU - God Loves All of the LGBTQIA+ Community!!
- https://www.slideshare.net/EltonSherwin/god-loves-you-leaflet-by-janet-edmondspdf
More details and scholarly references can be found in Janet’s longer white paper which is published several places:
- https://tiny.cc/Janet1
- https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses
- In a PDF: https://elcvienna.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Booklet-about-Homosexuality-and-the-Bible-Sept.-2016.pdf
Podcast written and produced by: Elton Sherwin
Audio edited and enhanced with: Descript Studio Sound
Synthesized speech using: Speechelo
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Did God cancel Leviticus and its archaic and unjust laws?
We look at Isaiah 56 and a conservative Bible commentary. The results are surprising.
Three Scriptures used in this episode:
· Isaiah 56: 4-5 (ESV)
· Leviticus 18: 22 (ESV)
· Leviticus 21: 18-20 (NIV)
Quoted in this Episode:
The Enduring Word Commentary by David Guzik
About Isaiah 56: 4-5The Enduring Word Commentary says:
“This also PROPHESIES THE PASSING OF THE DOMINANCE OF THE LEVITICAL ORDER.
“Clearly, giving eunuchs a place and a name in God’s house CONTRADICTED the command of LEVITICUS 21:17-20. BUT UNDER A COMING NEW COVENANT, THERE IS A HIGHER PRINCIPLE AT WORK THAN THE SHADOWS OF THE LEVITICAL LAW.”
Leviticus is describing who is EXCLUDED from the PRIESTHOOD Leviticus 21: 18-20
“No man who has any DEFECT may come near: no man who is BLIND or LAME, DISFIGURED or DEFORMED; no man with a CRIPPLED FOOT or hand, or who is a HUNCHBACK or a DWARF, or who has any EYE DEFECT, or who has festering or RUNNING SORES or DAMAGED TESTICLES.”
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“For, there are some who have been gay from birth, so knit together in their mother's wombs and created in God's image.”
This is a modern, amplified translation of Jesus' words from Matthew 19: 11-12 and the topic of this episode.
Scripture quoted:
· Matthew 19: 11-12 (ESV)
· Matthew 19: 11-12 (King James Version)
· Matthew 19: 12 (Multiple translations)
· Matthew 19: 12 (original Greek)
· Psalm 139: 13
· Genesis 1: 27
Quotes and URLs
Dr. Jack Rogers quote:
…"eunuchs who have been so from birth," is the closest biblical term we have for someone who today we refer to as homosexual.
Reverend Jeff Miner quote:
www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay
In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture as reflected in the Talmud, natural or born eunuchs… they were associated with stereotypically effeminate, characteristics and behavior… As we have also seen eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire.
Pastor Rick Brentlinger quote:
Historical evidence beside what Jesus said, indicates that gay, lesbians and transgendered people were included in the group known as eunuchs.
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We look at the traditional view of Isaiah’s blessing, which is surprisingly affirming of sexual minorities. Join me as we look at the great blessing in Isaiah 56: 4-5.
Scripture quoted:
· Isaiah 56: 4-5
· Matthew 19: 11-12
· Galatians 3: 28 (NASB)
· Leviticus 21: 18-20
References and URLs:
Quote from Janet Edmond
“It is difficult to overstate the significance of this story about the Ethiopian eunuch to our modern quest for Biblical insights into homosexuality. The Holy Spirit could have chosen anyone to be the first Gentile Christian, but the Holy Spirit chose an African, sexual minority who showed faith.
“The Bible’s unmistakable message here is one of inclusiveness and of God’s love for all people, regardless of their sexual preferences.”
Bridgeway Bible Commentary by Don Fleming:
“When the Jews returned to Jerusalem, some Gentile converts returned with them. Among these were several eunuchs, possibly people who were previously connected with the palaces in Babylon and Persia. The law of Moses made it plain that eunuchs were to be excluded from the tabernacle worship, probably to discourage the Israelites from making their own people eunuchs (Deuteronomy 23:1). But in the new Jerusalem all foreigners, eunuchs or otherwise, who honour God and keep his law should be allowed to worship in the temple along with godly Israelites”
“Love and obedience towards God, not physical or national characteristics, are the important things in God’s sight. The temple is for the use of all people, not just Jews, because God’s mercy is for all people”
Barn's Bible Commentary:
“For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs - Even the eunuchs, who have hitherto been excluded from the privileges of the people of God, and who have been regarded as a separated and degraded people, shall be admitted to the same privileges as others.”
Enduring Word Commentary:
“This also prophesies the passing of the dominance of the Levitical order.”
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Scripture used in this episode
· Proverbs 15:30
· Galatians 5: 22-23
· Matthew 25:40
· Ephesians 4:29
· 1 Peter 3:10
· 1 Thessalonians 5:11
From The Gottman Institute: https://www.gottman.com/
· The Magic Relationship Ratio (used in Podcast) https://youtu.be/Xw9SE315GtA
· Four horsemen https://youtu.be/1o30Ps-_8is
· “Bids” https://www.gottman.com/blog/turn-toward-instead-of-away/
· Singles newsletter https://www.gottman.com/singles-newsletter/
Except for doctor Gottman’s remarks, all research quoted was read by Descript.
12 Year Study of same-sex relationships:
· https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-12-year-study/
· https://www.gottman.com/blog/what-makes-same-sex-relationships-succeed-or-fail/
Smiling
· https://marriagecounselingblog.com/marriage-counseling/6-of-the-most-interesting-research-studies-about-love-and-marriage/
· https://youtu.be/jp42DM0x1Fc
· http://tiny.cc/Smile2
· http://tiny.cc/Smile3
· https://www.huffpost.com/entry/smiling-benefits_n_6598840
· https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150526093531.htm
First date questions: https://www.scienceofpeople.com/first-date-questions/
Marriages from online dating: https://www.science.org/content/article/online-dating-really-can-lead-love
Psychopathy (Don’t Marry)
· https://www.mha-em.org/im-looking-for/mental-health-knowledge-base/conditions/127-psychopathy-vs-sociopathy
· https://www.bikellaw.com/blog/37/is-your-husband-a-psychopath/
Gratitude
· https://www.verywellmind.com/how-gratitude-makes-you-happier-5114446
· https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_gratitude_helps_couples_through_hardship
The Power of saying: “thank you” in marriages
· https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151021170814.htm
· https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/heidi-stevens/ct-gratitude-marital-happiness-balancing-act-heidi-stevens-20151028-column.html
Top things couples fight about
https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/the-10-things-every-couple-will-fight-about-at-some-point.html
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GRANDMA CLAIR’S: SEVEN RULES FOR SAFE SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE
Sometimes called: Grandma Clair’s Seven Rules of Premarital Sex
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If you can become pregnant get a LARC.
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When dating go slowly, start with your hands and wait awhile before you move to oral or intercourse.
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Only have intercourse inside of a monogamous and romantic relationship.
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ALWAYS use condoms, to protect against STIs.
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Avoid hook-up sex. And if you do have hook-up sex use only your hands.
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Wait on oral sex until you are in a long-term, monogamous relationship and have both been tested for STIs
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Try to wait until you are 19 to have intercourse.
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Hook-up Sex Flunks Out, But Romance Rocks:
http://tiny.cc/RomanceRocks
Sex Lowers Teen Delinquency
http://tiny.cc/SexAndDelinquency
Queer Youth and School Engagement
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835305/
LARCs Success:
http://tiny.cc/NYTLARCS
http://tiny.cc/LARCSgraduate
http://tiny.cc/OBGYNAdvice
http://tiny.cc/YesLARCS
STIs risks: Oral and Anal Sex verses using hands (fingering)
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/sex-activities-and-risk/
https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/
Kissing and STIs
http://tiny.cc/KissingRisks
http://tiny.cc/Kiss4Gonorrhoea
Percent of Americans Having Premarital Sex
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/p.htm
http://tiny.cc/Guttmacher2006
http://tiny.cc/TeenSexStats
Teens and STIs
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5002249/
Late Bloomers Rock: Delaying First Intercourse Beyond High School Is Beneficial
http://tiny.cc/DoesTrueLoveWait
http://tiny.cc/HeritageTeenSex
http://tiny.cc/57studiesonTeenSex
A Book of Charts
http://tiny.cc/HeritageCharts
Early Sex in El Salvador and Peru Has Poor Outcomes
http://tiny.cc/TeenSexPeru
Children of Teen Moms
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219236/
https://voxeu.org/article/why-children-teen-mothers-do-worse-life
Graduation Rates for Teen Moms
http://tiny.cc/TeenMomsInSchool
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/teen-pregnancy-affects-graduation-rates-postcard.aspx
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We look at the problems with the “purity movement” which teaches the Bible bans all premarital sex. The Gospels, the 10 commandments and the Bible in its entirety does NOT say premarital sex is a sin.
YouTube Videos of these Podcasts How Churches Are Failing Young Christians:
Part 1 (PRIOR episode): Why Millions Are Leaving the Church and Some Are Committing Suicide - The impact of church attendance on queer youth.
o http://tiny.cc/ChurchFail1
Part 2 (THIS EPISODE): The problems with purity
o http://tiny.cc/ChurchFail2
Part 3 (NEXT episode): When Is Premarital Sex God Honoring?
o http://tiny.cc/ChurchFail3
Some other episodes are also available as videos on YouTube:
· http://tiny.cc/BiblePride
References and UR
Terry Gross Fresh Air interview of Linda Kay Klein:
Transcript and audio:
• https://www.npr.org/transcripts/648737143
Linda Kay Klein’s book, PURE:
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQV274T
“Inside the Purity Movement and Its Effect on Evangelical Women” by Julie Ingersoll University of North Florida
• https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/lifestyle/faith/2019/12/14/inside-purity-movement-and-its-effect-on-evangelical-women/2085970007/
Charts used from part 1:
The benefits of church attendance for women (Harvard study):
• https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2521827
• https://ifstudies.org/blog/religious-service-attendance-marriage-and-health/
The association of religiosity and suicide in queer youth:
• http://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
• http://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)30050-3/fulltext
Falling church attendance – Pew research:
• http://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
President Carter quote:
• https://youtu.be/znTO949aPNg?t=155
• https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jimmy-carter-gay-marriage_n_7744390
More than 1 in 2 Americans will get STD in lifetime
https://www.sctimes.com/story/life/wellness/2015/08/21/americans--get-std-lifetime/32123427/
HPV and Cancer: “HPV is a group of more than 200 related viruses, some of which are spread through vaginal, anal, or oral sex…
• https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-and-cancer
There is a vaccine for many sexually transmitted cancers:
• www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-vaccine-fact-sheet
• https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/cases.htm
Voices and video editing: Descript.com
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21% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT according to a 2022 Gallup Poll. Both parents and churches are failing to keep them safe.
Research tells us there are surprisingly large benefits to health and wellbeing associated with church attendance. Unfortunately, there is a dark side to religion, particularly for some young Christians and members of the LGBTQIA+ community.
Some episodes are available on YouTube:
· http://tiny.cc/BiblePride
References and URLs
21% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT according to a 2022 Gallup Poll:
· https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx
“Homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered" Catechism of the Catholic Church:
· http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2357.htm
Franklin Graham quote:
· https://christiansforsocialaction.org/resource/what-are-christians-to-do-with-those-pesky-gay-children/
The benefits of church attendance for women (Harvard study):
· https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2521827
· https://ifstudies.org/blog/religious-service-attendance-marriage-and-health/
Benefits of church attendance for young adults (2ndHarvard study):
· http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-upbringing-adult-health/
· https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/187/11/2355/5094534
The association of religiosity and suicide in queer youth:
· http://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
· http://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)30050-3/fulltext
Falling church attendance – Barna Group research:
· http://www.barna.com/research/changing-state-of-the-church/
Falling church attendance – Pew research:
· http://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
Friendly and Welcoming Is Not Affirming:
· http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/4/03/difference-between-welcoming-church-and-affirming-one-huge
Trans godparents forbidden in the Catholic Church:
· http://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church
· http://www.newwaysministry.org/2015/09/13/did-the-vatican-really-ban-transgender-godparents/
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In this episode I talk about how these podcasts came to be. Then we review President Carter’s now famous remarks affirming gay marriage. And then we look briefly at what godly gay sex might look like. And then we conclude with a short rant on sexual purity.
References:
Religious upbringing linked to better health and well-being during early adulthood
· https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-upbringing-adult-health/
Chilling Study Sums Up Link Between Religion And Suicide For Queer Youth:
· https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
InMenlo online article:
· https://inmenlo.com/2022/01/31/elton-sherwin-offers-podcasts-on-the-bible-and-the-lgbtqia-community-here-he-explains-why/
President Carter’s interviews
2012: “Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world…
· https://www.huffpost.com/entry/president-jimmy-carter-bible-book_n_1349570#:~:text=Homosexuality%20was%20well,be%20condemned
2015: “I believe Jesus would approve gay marriage…”
· https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jimmy-carter-gay-marriage_n_7744390#:~:text=I%20believe%20Jesus%20would,damages%20anyone%20else
“Children born from unplanned pregnancies often face a range of developmental risks. Data indicates that these children report poorer physical and mental health compared to children born as the result of an intended pregnancy”
· https://www.michigan.gov/ruready/0,4664,7-276-57380_65294---,00.html
“Almost half of pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned. There’s a surprisingly easy way to change that”
· https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/01/almost-half-of-pregnancies-in-the-u-s-are-unplanned-theres-a-surprisingly-easy-way-to-change-that/
More than 1 in 2 Americans will get STD in lifetime
· www.sctimes.com/story/life/wellness/2015/08/21/americans--get-std-lifetime/32123427/
HPV and Cancer: “HPV is a group of more than 200 related viruses, some of which are spread through vaginal, anal, or oral sex…
· https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-and-cancer There is a vaccine for many sexually transmitted cancers:
· www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-vaccine-fact-sheet
90% cervical cancers…
· https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/cases.htm
- The Baptism of The Ethiopian Eunuch
In this famous story we see God emphasizing that the Gospel message is inclusive and open to all. And that the kingdom of heaven does not discriminate on the basis of race, gender or sexual orientation. From the Book of Acts, chapter 8 verses 26 to 40.
References and URLs: Quotes Janet Edmonds:
https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses
Quote from Rev. Jeff Miner and John Tyler Connoley in
The Children Are Free: Reexamining the Biblical Evidence on Same-sex Relationships:
https://books.google.com/books?id=c3uCTACZ46sC&pg=PA42
See the last full paragraph on page 42, then read the surrounding pages
Additional Reverend Jeff Miner resources:
www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay
and books: www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARev.+Jeff+Miner
Recent article from InMenlo on the origins of this series:
https://inmenlo.com/2022/01/31/elton-sherwin-offers-podcasts-on-the-bible-and-the-lgbtqia-community-here-he-explains-why/
For more from my research about eunuchs in antiquity, see the notes in episode 6.
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8. Paul, Gay Marriage and Gender Pronouns
We continue our LGBTQIA+ positive and affirming look at the Bible. In this episode we look at same-sex marriage and gender-neutral pronouns in light of Paul's writings in Galatians 3:28 and 1 Corinthians 7:8.
Having authored three of the infamous clobber verses, the apostle Paul is generally considered hostile to the LGBTQIA+ community. But in this episode, we see one of the most controversial of the biblical authors in a different light.
We will examine his clobber verses in a future episode
Poem: Would the Apostle Paul Approve of Gay Marriage?
Would the apostle Paul approve of gay marriage?
I think you would.
On most topics involving women sex or marriage.
Paul's writings are a bit confusing.
In several instances, his meaning is obscured.
The exact translation of old Greek words lost to antiquity.
And in at least one instance, he seems to have made up a word.
Nevertheless:
Paul—who never married—has become the Bible's authority on marriage.
And on the topic of marriage.
Paul's clearest easiest to understand guidance is in his first letter to the new believers in the Greek city of Corinth
“Now to the unmarried and the widows
I say it is good for them to stay unmarried as I do,
but if they cannot control themselves, they should marry
For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”
1 Corinthians 7: 8-9.
Doesn't this perfectly describe some gay couples?
“…If they cannot control themselves,
they should marry
for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
I can see this becoming quite popular in gay weddings.
Jonathan, and David, stand here today, obedient to the Apostle Paul, who said:
It is good to stay unmarried.
But if you cannot control yourselves, you should marry.
So, today, we celebrate the uniting of Jonathan and David
I look forward to the YouTube videos of weddings using this scripture.
And I will celebrate the day when all churches will heed Paul’s words and marry couples regardless of their sexual orientation or gender
Postscript: One of my early reviewers noted that some believe Paul may, at one time, have been married. I had never heard this. You can read about this controversy at:
https://www.gotquestions.org/apostle-Paul-married.html
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In this episode we continue studying Matthew 19:11-12. What did Jesus mean when he said, “Some are born eunuchs? Is this common translation correct?
Homework Assignment from Episode 6 Who do you think Jesus is talking about in each of the three types of sexual minorities in Matthew 19:11-12? Answers 1. “Those who have been so FROM BIRTH.”
· Narrowest plausible answers: G or gay men; or Men who do not lie with women; or queer men.
· Broadest plausible answers: LGBTQIA+; or sexual and gender minorities; or those born sexually different; or queer people.
· Incorrect: Only those born without testicles.
Jesus is saying SOME sexual minorities are formed in their mother’s wombs for something OTHER THAN a traditional, husband-wife marriage with traditional gender roles.
- “Those who have been made so BY OTHERS”
· Narrowest plausible answer: men who have been castrated by others.
· Broadest plausible answers: LGBTQIA+; sexual and gender minorities; those born sexually different; or queer people.
Jesus is saying SOME are sexual minorities for love. And, SOME are sexual minorities because of the influence of others (parents, friends, lovers, etc.)
- “Those who have made themselves so FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN”
· Narrowest plausible answer: men who are celibate for life for spiritual reasons, e.g., Roman catholic priests.
· Broadest plausible answer: all people who choose celibacy, even for one night when to have sex would be adulterous, or deceitful, or dishonest, etc.
Jesus is saying there are times in everyone’s life when celibacy is the God-honoring way to live: It can be for one night; It can be for a season of life; and for a few, for a lifetime.
Greek-English Translation · https://biblehub.com/greek/2135.htm
· https://biblehub.com/psb/matthew/19.htm
References and URLs: Reverend Jeff Miner quotes:
www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay
and books: www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARev.+Jeff+Miner
Janet Edmonds quotes:
https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses
For more from my research about eunuchs in antiquity, see the notes in episode 6.
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In this episode we look at Jesus own words on the topic sexual and gender minorities.
Homework Assignment: At the end of this episode, you will receive a “homework” assignment:
Who do you think Jesus is talking about in each of the three types of sexual minorities in Matthew 19:11-12? 1. “Those who have been so FROM BIRTH.”
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“Those who have been made so BY OTHERS”
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“Those who have made themselves so FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN”
Use whatever translation you are most comfortable with:
· “Eunuch” or “sexually different.”
· “Mother’s womb” or “birth.”
And then match each of the three sexual minorities Jesus calls out in Mt 19:11-12 (1. from BIRTH; 2. by OTHERS; or 3. for the KINGDOM) with one or more of the letters in the rainbow of sexual and gender minorities: LGBTQIA+.
LGBTQIA+ brief definitions: https://lgbtqiainfo.weebly.com/acronym-letters-explained.html
More detailed definitions: https://abbreviations.yourdictionary.com/what-does-lgbtqia-stand-for-full-acronym-explained.html
You are answering the question:
Who is Jesus talking about in each of these 3 groups?
· Some of Jesus categories may map to multiple letters.
· And some letters may be used more than once.
· You may also use terms not normally associated with the LGBTQIA+ community. For example, “castrated men” or “infertile men.”
New Rebranded Series I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I will continue to add episodes here, but eventually you might want to switch over to the new podcast. You can find it by searching for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and the LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Google Podcasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideGoogle
· Other services: https://anchor.fm/elton-sherwin6
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References and URLs: Janet Edmonds quotes:
https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses
From my research about eunuchs in antiquity:
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www.gaychristian101.com/eunuchs-are-gay.html
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www.thoughtco.com/eunuchs-in-the-roman-empire-121003
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http://epistle.us/hbarticles/eunuchs1.html
We continue examining the two "clobber verses" in the book of Leviticus with an affirming, LGBTQ positive view of Bible scripture.
These two “cobber verses,” Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 have given many Christians great heartache. Do they really condemn all male homosexuality?
Also, I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I will continue to add episodes here, but you want to switch over to the new podcast. You can find it by searching for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and the LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Other services: https://anchor.fm/elton-sherwin6
References and URLs: 1. Janet Edmonds quotes and sources:
https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/
And https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/
- Dr. Ralph Blair quotes: https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/leviticus-1822-2013/
Levitical clobber verses:
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https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22
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https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/#:~:text=Levitical%20Law%20says
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/interpreting-Leviticus-18-22.htm
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http://canyonwalkerconnections.com/leviticus-18-20-say-sex-behavior/
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https://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblot.htm#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Leviticus_18_and_20
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality#Leviticus_18_and_20
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https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-leviticus#:~:text=Preview
We examine the two "clobber verses" in the book of Leviticus and continue with an affirming, LGBTQIA+ positive view of Bible scripture.
Also, I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I will continue to add episodes here, but you may want to switch over to the new podcast. You can find it by searching for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and the LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Other services: https://anchor.fm/elton-sherwin6
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References and URLs: Levitical clobber verses:
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https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/leviticus-1822-2013/
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https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22
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https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/#:~:text=Levitical%20Law%20says
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https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/interpreting-Leviticus-18-22.htm
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http://canyonwalkerconnections.com/leviticus-18-20-say-sex-behavior/
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https://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblot.htm#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Leviticus_18_and_20
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality#Leviticus_18_and_20
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https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-leviticus#:~:text=Preview
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We dive deeper into these first two clobber verses: “Sodom and Gomorrah” in Genesis 19 (GN 19: 1-29) and “The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine” in Judges 19-21. What is really going on in these two stories? Are these mobs of gay rapists…? And what should we learn from these stories?
Also, I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I WILL continue to add episodes here, but you might want to switch over to the new podcast. You can find it by searching for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and the LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six.
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References and URLs
“ANGELS OF INDETERMINATE GENDER IN GENESIS 19”
by Rev. Dave Barnhart (quoted – this URL loads slowly)
https://web.archive.org/web/20201115134108/https://rmnetwork.org/genesis19/
More on the gender of Angels:
https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Gender_variance_in_Christianity#Angels_in_Christianity
Rape in clobber verses #1 and #2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Genesis_19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Judges
This fascinating, dark story has nothing to do with consensual homosexuality. Spanning three chapters in the Book of Judges, the Murder of the Levite’s Concubine foreshadows the treatments of minorities around the world. Somehow this story of sexual violence has been twisted to blame gay men…
Also, I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I WILL continue to add episodes here, but you might want to switch over to the new podcast:
The Bible and the LGBTQ IA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six, and so forth.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Google Podcasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideGoogle
· Castbox: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideCastbox
· PocketCasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePridePocketCasts
· Stitcher: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideStitcher
· Amazon: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAmazon
· TuneIn: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideTuneIn
· Audible: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAudible
Or just search for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and The LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
References and URLs for this podcast on The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine: 1. https://whosoever.org/the-bible-and-homosexuality-judges-19/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levite%27s_concubine
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https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/
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https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/
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https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/concubine-of-levite-bible
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/030908929502006705?journalCode=jota
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Genesis 19 has been called the “most misused scripture in the history of Christendom.”
What is this story actually about? Gay men or…? The Prophet Ezekiel tells us.
I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I WILL continue to add episodes here, but you might want to switch over to the new podcast:
The Bible and the LGBTQ IA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six, and so forth.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Google Podcasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideGoogle
· Castbox: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideCastbox
· PocketCasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePridePocketCasts
· Stitcher: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideStitcher
· Amazon: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAmazon
· TuneIn: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideTuneIn
· Audible: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAudible
Or just search for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and The LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
References and URLs for this podcast on Sodom and Gomorrah: 1. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/
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https://c-ucc.org/open-and-affirming-part-3-sodom-and-gomorrah-is-not-about-homosexuality
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http://queergrace.com/sodom/
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www.westarinstitute.org/blog/sodom-and-gomorrah-how-the-classical-interpretation-gets-it-wrong/
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www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/
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https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/
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https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-genesis#:~:text=Preview
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https://medium.com/@adamnicholasphillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality-seriously-it-doesn-t-13ae949d6619
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https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/genesis-19-cf-1820/
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If you are looking for an LGBTQIA+ positive view of Christianity and the Bible, or you have a child, friend, relative or even a pastor who is struggling with these issues this series is for you.
Also, I am excited to announce: I have restarted this podcast series with a new name, a new look and improved audio.
I WILL not continue to add episodes here, but you might want to switch over to the new podcast:
The Bible and the LGBTQ IA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
I have remastered the first five episodes and included them in the new series So, if you have listened to five episodes here you should switch over to the new series on episode six, and so forth.
These are the links to the new series (capitalization matters):
· Apple: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideApple
· Spotify: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideSpotify
· Google Podcasts: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideGoogle
· Castbox: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideCastbox
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· Amazon: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAmazon
· TuneIn: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideTuneIn
· Audible: http://tiny.cc/BiblePrideAudible
Or just search for my name, Elton Sherwin, or the name of the new series:
The Bible and The LGBTQIA+ Community: The Facts We Were Never Told.
References and URLs:
The risks for LGBTQIA Youth attending non-affirming churches:
· www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
· www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)30050-3/fulltext
· www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/4/03/difference-between-welcoming-church-and-affirming-one-huge