Awe and Wonder Podcast: AAC & AT: Recent Episodes

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Are you losing the human connection in the midst of data collection? Join Brenda and Sarah as they talk with inspirational people who create awe and wonder in unique ways. “Wonder inspires the wish to understand; awe inspires the wish to let shine, to acknowledge and to unite.” Ulrich Weger & Johannes Wagemann (sourced from Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown) Participants will hear first hand accounts from people supporting students with complex needs. Assistive Technology, Augmentative Alternative Communication (AAC) and IEP goals are discussed, but human connection is highlighted throughout this engaging series.

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In this episode, Staci Neustadt introduces the Neuro Strengths-Based Support for Autism (NSBSA) framework—a revolutionary approach that bridges the communication and perception gap between autistic and non-autistic minds. Staci shares practical strategies for moving away from "fixing" students' problems and toward empowering their independence. Tune in as Staci shares practical tools for fostering student independence, teaching somatic emotional regulation ("How did that feel in your body?"), building self-awareness around both strengths and disabilities, and using mutual agreements to cultivate genuine partnerships. She shares multiple examples of what can do to support and model regulation in a busy and loud classroom. You don’t want to miss the practical strategies and resources she provides throughout this interview!

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Resources:

Making Sense of Autism: https://www.makingsenseofautism.com/?srsltid=AfmBOop5H-JMgygKXcCbQEovnH864cCqJixvDNDDkgaOytecq9OA48g-

Strengths, Stressors, and Supports Profile Quick Form FREE: https://www.makingsenseofautism.com/quick-assessment

Autism Level UP! https://autismnavigator.learnercommunity.com/Files/Org/b7feabe6ed9e4713b02511fc0003214c/site/Laurent_LevelingUP.pdf

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In this episode we are joined by two incredible guests who bring unique, lived experiences to the conversation: Lexi Ayars and Timothy.

12 year old Lexi, a thoughtful leader and passionate advocate, opens up about her own journey navigating the world as a neurodivergent individual. She shares invaluable advice on how to effectively advocate for others and breaks down the specific qualities that make a teacher truly helpful and impactful for neurodivergent students.

Timothy brings an equally important perspective as the older brother of a neurodiverse sibling. He candidly discusses the complexities of family dynamics. Timothy shares how his perspective has evolved over time toward profound understanding and patience, shaping his core belief in the need for individualized, relationship-centered approaches to support.

Resources: Parent to Parent sibling supports: https://arcwa.org/p2p-coordinator-information/ Seasame Workshop Understanding Autism: https://sesameworkshop.org/topics/autism/

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In this episode, we sit down with Ivanova Smith, a fierce leader in the self-advocacy movement for over a decade and founder of the Nothing About Us Without Us Act. Ivanova opens up about her early years spending five years in a Latvian institution, her adopted family's tireless fight for her to receive a full education, and the isolating experience of being what she calls the "hot potato sped kid" constantly bouncing between general and special education settings. Reflecting on her early lack of opportunity to connect with the disability community, Ivanova passionately discusses how youth can take a more active role in their Individualized Education Programs (IEPs) and shares actionable ideas to foster a genuine sense of belonging for students with IDD. Now serving as the Community Collaborations Program Manager for Developmental Disability Community Services, she breaks down what true person-centered policy looks like, powerfully reminding us that there should be "no policy without representation."

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Resources:

Learn more about the Nothing About Us Without Us Act from Disability Rights WA: https://disabilityrightswa.org/nothing-about-us-without-us/

Inclusionary Practices Technical Assistance Network (IPTN): https://ospi.k12.wa.us/student-success/support-programs/inclusionary-practices-technical-assistance-network-iptn

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In this episode, Elizabeth Freund joins us to explore the profound impact of neurodiversity-affirming processes in education and therapy. We dive into the beauty of child-led, exploratory therapy and practical approaches like "strewing," which leverages a student’s natural pattern-seeking strengths to gently introduce new toys and activities. The conversation also highlights how to best support Gestalt Language Processors, exploring how recorded speech can encourage language growth while maintaining essential flexibility for the child.

Beyond everyday strategies, we examine how our therapeutic approaches and relationships shift when we actively change the language and narratives we hold. As Elizabeth notes, "Use this [neurodiversity] movement as an invitation to reflect and think about …the narratives we have held and maybe the ones we want to foster instead."

Resources:

Handout on PDA, GLP and cognitive processing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Ou1f34JVIlLbHwtwxo-t6-TMrLkiM0g/view?usp=drive_link

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Sarah and Brenda are thrilled to be joined by Emily Kircher-Morris, a clinical mental health professional, host of The Neurodiversity Podcast, and co-author of Neurodiversity Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported. Drawing on her unique background as a neurodivergent parent, educator, and counselor, Emily explores how to build truly neurodiversity-affirming environments. We unpack the nuances of Autism levels, the importance of a "both/and" approach to support, and the vital shift from teaching rigid "social skills" to fostering flexible "social navigation." Finally, Emily breaks down the purpose of stimming and how to scaffold authentic self-advocacy beyond simply asking for help. https://specialedtechcenter.com/awe-and-wonder-s9/

Resources Mentioned:

Listen to Emily’s show: The Neurodiversity Podcast: https://neurodiversitypodcast.com/ Read Emily's Book: Neurodiversity Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported https://www.neurodiversityaffirmingschools.com/ Watch the full video interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/b9S0Lo2P7Rs

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In this episode of the Awe and Wonder Podcast's "Stories of Neurodiversity" series, Brenda and Sarah are thrilled to welcome Mateo Moreno, a passionate advocate who has used AAC since the age of four. Mateo shares his powerful journey navigating the world with his Saltillo NovaChat 8, offering unique insights into disability, inclusion, and the realities of being the only AAC user in the room. From presenting internationally to mentoring young communicators at Camp ALEC and even appearing on Disney+, his dedication to fostering confidence and kindness is truly unmatched. Join us for an insightful conversation as Mateo shares his invaluable recommendations for communication partners and his vision for a more inclusive world.

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Episode Resources:

Watch Mateo’s 2026 Prentke AAC Distinguished Lecture ATIA 2026 Conference, titled "Stories from the Kid with a Talking Box: The Vital Role of AAC Users in Educating Peers about AAC and Inclusion." https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwAGlDFawZOOyvFpGrJ0txw See Mateo on Camp ALEC (Documentary on Disney+): A 19-minute short documentary film, part of the People & Places series, featuring the sleepaway camp where Mateo mentors. https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-6b02934d-b6ed-4f6b-8ab0-89149f493709

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What does the future of neurodiversity look like? In this episode, Brenda and Sarah sit down with Lauren Enders Gonzales to explore this idea and tackle the hard questions about how we support neurodivergent AAC users. Lauren unpacks how educators and therapists often project their own agendas onto device customization and implementation and shares how we can reintroduce authentic curiosity into our sessions. Featuring real-world examples from her own therapy practice, Lauren also breaks down how to write measurable goals that reflect what matters most to the student—leaving compliance-based metrics behind.

Episode Resources

Does This AAC Goal Matter? Checklist Questions: https://www.canva.com/design/DAFQozTAFE8/Ns2RqfEtovR5Dz_oSYPLdQ/view?utm_content=DAFQozTAFE8&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=uniquelinks&utlId=hf574c5b313

Learn about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA): https://pdanorthamerica.org/

Declarative Language Handbook, by Linda Murphy

https://www.declarativelanguage.com/about-declarative-language-handbook

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In episode S9E1 of the Awe and Wonder Podcast, we sit down with fellow Speech-Language Pathologist Sara Ayars. Sara brings a beautifully unique perspective to the conversation, blending her professional clinical expertise with her personal journey as a parent to a neurodiverse child. She shares actionable, neurodiversity-affirming strategies—like the power of co-regulation and the shift toward declarative language—that are designed to support and empower both the child and the parent. Whether you are a therapist, educator, or parent, this episode is packed with deeply relatable and practical insights.

Resources:

Declarative Language Handbook, by Linda Murphy https://www.declarativelanguage.com/about-declarative-language-handbook

On The Hard Days podcast https://www.ontheharddays.com/podcast

Mothers Together group https://www.ontheharddays.com/

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Brad is not just a Neuralink participant; he is currently the only nonverbal communicator among the eleven individuals implanted with this revolutionary brain-computer interface. Living with ALS, Brad has navigated life for years relying on various Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) systems. Join us as Brad shares his extraordinary journey, which is a powerful testament to resilience, adaptation, and the unwavering human desire to communicate.

Awe and Wonder AAC & AT Podcast https://specialedtechcenter.com/awe-and-wonder-s8/ Air Date: 11/19/25

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In this episode of the podcast, we bring together parents, an SLP, and incredible teenage AAC users to share how Artificial Intelligence (AI) is revolutionizing their world. We hear from three fantastic guests: Alyssa Reed (teenage AAC user) and her mother, Elizabeth Reed; Trinity Rogers (teenage AAC user) and her SLP, Katelyn Oeser; Josh Pedro, a dad whose daughter, Gena, also uses AAC. Tune in to discover the exciting, real-world applications of AI for teenagers who use Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC), including how they are using it to: - Conquer Writing Assignments: Making schoolwork accessible and empowering. - Boost Social Fluency: Generating expanded sentences and quick, relevant responses for fast-paced social interactions. - Curate Vocabulary: Strategically selecting and adding essential words, including slang, to their communication devices. Most critically, we provide actionable advice for parents and professionals: How to effectively document and integrate AI tools and support into an AAC user's Individualized Education Program (IEP). Don't miss this blueprint for leveraging technology to unlock potential! Awe and Wonder AAC & AT Podcast Series 8: AI Possibilities https://specialedtechcenter.com/awe-and-wonder-s8/

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In this episode we sit down with the incredible Mai Ling Chan, CCC-SLP, PMP, co-creator of AI for SLP Facebook group and a person dedicated to connecting and bridging relationships across the industry. We dive into critical updates on how to prompt AI effectively and safely as well as exploring the need to consider how people with disabilities want or don't want to use AI themselves. Tune in to hear Mai Ling's forward-thinking perspective on how technology and business can responsibly and effectively support the disability community.

Episode Resources:

Exceptional Leaders Network: https://www.exceptionalleadersnetwork.com/

AI for the SLP on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/597325123447725

ArSHA Conference 2026: https://www.arsha.org/convention/

Mai Ling Chan: https://www.mailingchan.com/about

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Join us as we talk with Tracy Dabbs, Coordinator of Technology and Innovation for the Burlington-Edison School District in Washington State! If you're a teacher, SLP, or AT specialist, you'll want to grab your notebook. Tracy shares actionable advice and resources on how to effectively support students using AI. She even provides a direct link to her resource website filled with AI tools for educators. Don't miss this essential session on using AI to overcome barriers and achieve better student outcomes! Awe and Wonder AAC & AT Podcast https://specialedtechcenter.com/awe-and-wonder-podcast/

Episode Resources: AI and Inclusive Instruction- B-E UDL: Resource Bank - AI Tools and Instruction: https://sites.google.com/be.wednet.edu/b-ehs-udl-resource-bank/ai-tools-and-instruction

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Join us as we speak with Dr. Samuel Sennott, professor of special education at Portland State University and co-creator of the original Proloquo2Go AAC app. Dr. Sennott shares the inspiring story behind creating one of the most widely used Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) tools. He also dives into the future, discussing how AI could shift deeply ingrained attitude barriers toward AAC users, how it can support literacy and talks about specific apps and how they harness AI to support communication. Most profoundly, Dr. Sennott opens up about his personal journey with cancer and how becoming a patient dramatically reshaped his views on life, healthcare, and the participatory model of AAC.

Episode Resources:

AAC Peer Support Project Final Report https://www.ohsu.edu/sites/default/files/2025-05/AAC%20Peer%20Support%20Project%20Final%20Report%20and%20Appendices_revised%20compressed.pdf

AAC and Artificial Intelligence. Sennott SC, Akagi L, Lee M, Rhodes A.

AAC and Artificial Intelligence (AI) - PMC

Supporting Individuals Who Use AAC: Breaking Down Opportunity Barriers: https://www.pluralpublishing.com/publications/supporting-individuals-who-use-augmentative-and-alternative-communication-breaking-down-opportunity-barriers?srsltid=AfmBOoorIDEMePZTn0WaASTh-om79hpLtxhArgmfM90aHBIe1wybUrBk

Lateef McLoud: https://speaker.ussaac.org/speaker/lateef-mcleod-oakland-ca/

OKR TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/john_doerr_why_the_secret_to_success_is_setting_the_right

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Ready to integrate AI into your classroom but don't know where to start? Join us as educator Sharon Redmon offers a practical guide to using artificial intelligence. She shares how she uses ChatGPT to break down a research article and introduces a "4 C's" system for prompt creation. Sharon also discusses how AI can streamline the process of creating educational materials and highlights key guiding principles for its use, including putting the human first and prioritizing accessibility, especially for AAC users.

Episode Resources:

Beyond Text Leveling with AI (1 min video): https://youtu.be/d1VC-rjEoOs

Strategic AI Prompting to Modify and Customize Curriculum (13 min video): https://youtu.be/gThAp8GvEko

AI & AAC Article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07434618.2025.2495905

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Tune into our latest episode as we sit down with Chris Gibbons, Senior Vice President of Clinical Education at Smartbox, for a fascinating discussion on the future of assistive technology and AI as an accelerant for learning. We dive into the transformative potential of AI applications in education and for individuals with disabilities, specifically focusing on how AI can enhance communication through Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) devices. This conversation explores the incredible opportunities AI presents while also highlighting the critical importance of user control, privacy, and ethical considerations in the development and implementation of these powerful new tools.

Episode Resources:

Brave New Words (book): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/740806/brave-new-words-by-salman-khan/

Smartbox: https://thinksmartbox.com/

AI + Learning Differences: Designing a Future with No Boundaries: https://acceleratelearning.stanford.edu/app/uploads/2025/07/AI-Learning-Differences-Designing-a-Future-with-No-Boundaries_Final.pdf

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Tune in for a fascinating discussion with Dr. Tracy Rackensperger, a public service faculty member at the Institute on Human Development and Disability at the University of Georgia and Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) User. Dr. Rackensperger is an expert in AAC, and in this episode, she discusses how AI is creating new opportunities for meaningful inclusion for students with disabilities. Learn about the importance of using critical thinking and editing skills when leveraging AI, and how these new technologies are opening the door to quicker communication for AAC users. You won't want to miss this insightful conversation on the intersection of AI, technology, and inclusion.

Awe and Wonder AAC & AT Podcast https://specialedtechcenter.com/awe-and-wonder-podcast/

Episode Resources:

RERC on AAC Webcasts & Instructional Modules: https://rerc-aac.psu.edu/

McNaughton, D., Rackensperger, T., & McLemore, L. (2025). Supporting meaningful participation in society by adults with developmental disabilities who need and use AAC: lived experiences, key research findings, and future directions. Augmentative and Alternative Communication, 41(3), 250–263. https://doi.org/10.1080/07434618.2025.2504497

October is National Disability Employment and Alternative Communication (AAC) Awareness month! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXMhswc69Ng

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Tune in to a conversation with Erin, an expert in literacy and language development and a strong advocate for inclusive schools and communities. As a mother of a now teenager with autism and Angelman syndrome, Erin brings firsthand experience to her work at AssistiveWare. We discuss her journey through early intervention and the special education system, and the AT supports that proved essential for her daughter.

Resources:

Proloquo Thinking Space: https://www.assistiveware.com/support/proloquo/basics/proloquo-thinking-space

Angelman Syndrome: https://angelman.org/about-angelman-syndrome/

CVI: https://www.perkins.org/what-is-cvi/

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Explore the impactful work of Bridget, an SLP at the University of Washington's Experimental Education Unit (EEU), an inclusive early childhood center. Learn how their transdisciplinary approach supports children (birth-kindergarten) with diverse communication needs through collaborative assessment, therapy, and teacher consultation. Bridget shares insights into fostering communication development and the power of teamwork in helping young learners thrive.

Resources:

UW Experimental Education Unit: https://haringcenter.org/eeu/

Haring Center for Inclusive Education: https://haringcenter.org/

Will AAC stop a person from learning to speak? https://www.assistiveware.com/learn-aac/roadblock-aac-will-stop-a-person-from-learning-to-speak

Printable AAC Core Boards: https://saltillo.com/chatcorner/content/29

Carrie Ebert, SLP https://www.instagram.com/cari.ebert.seminars/?hl=en

Playspark https://www.instagram.com/play_spark/

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From stay-at-home mom to special education expert, hear how one mother's journey with her daughter, who has CHARGE syndrome, sparked a 21-year career. We delve into her experience as a Speech Therapy Assistant, her Masters in Special Education (Visually Impaired), and her work with children 0-3 and preschool at the Arizona State School for the Deaf and Blind.

Resources:

CHARGE Syndrome: https://www.chargesyndrome.org/overview/

State Deafblind Projects: https://www.nationaldb.org/state-deaf-blind-projects/

Remove.bg image background removal: https://www.remove.bg/

Oregon Project for Preschool Children Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired: https://www.pathstoliteracy.org/the-oregon-project-for-preschool-children-who-are-blind-or-visually-impaired/

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Tune in for a conversation with Cass, a passionate advocate for equity and early access to robust high-tech AAC. As an autistic and ADHD mom of autistic children, she champions neuroaffirming approaches. We explore her personal experiences with AT in early intervention and her dedication to empowering families with the tools they need to thrive.

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Ryan joins us to share her journey in early intervention and inclusive education. With a wealth of experience from preschool classrooms to Washington's Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction (OSPI), she's dedicated to ensuring all children thrive. Learn about her impactful work with the Preschool Inclusion Champions Network and her insights on the power of collaboration and assistive technology.

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As a speech-language pathologist with 20 years of experience, specializing in early intervention, and a device representative for PRC-Saltillo, Shari brings a unique perspective. Hear her personal story of navigating her own children's communication journeys – the struggle of getting a device for her 8-year-old, and her youngest daughter who began using AAC at just 13 months. Discover how her professional expertise and lived experience intersect, offering invaluable insights for parents and professionals alike.

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Join us as Rebecca shares her journey after her daughter Maeve's diagnosis of Joubert syndrome at just four months old. Discover how occupational therapist Mimi and cTVI Jillian stepped in, working alongside Rebecca to find and implement crucial assistive technology, opening up a world of communication and access for Maeve.

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Tara and Shelly, a parent and educator team, founded Roots2Wings Family Group to support families of children with disabilities across Washington state. Their organization bridges a crucial gap by offering online training sessions and coordinating in-person events where parents can connect with multiple agencies under one roof to access essential resources and information.

Acronyms used: ABA: Applied Behavior Analysis DDA: Developmental Disabilities Administration

Resources:

Roots2Wings website: https://sites.google.com/view/roots2wings/home

Academy for Precision Learning: https://www.aplschool.org/

WA State Transition Services ages 16-21: https://ospi.k12.wa.us/student-success/special-education/family-engagement-and-guidance/transition-services-ages-16-21

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Fran McCarthy has dedicated her career to championing students' needs in education. Her recent role as Executive Director of Student Support Services at Northwest Washington Educational Service District reflects her commitment to student advocacy. She is particularly passionate about fostering inclusive educational environments, implementing Universal Design for Learning principles, and developing project-based learning opportunities for students with disabilities and those principles are highlighted throughout this episode.

Resources:

TIES Center 5-15-45 Tool: https://tiescenter.org/resource/dl24-the-5-15-45-tool-grab-a-partner-and-lets-collaborate

Assistive Technology in the IEP: Writing Strength-Based IEPs

Washington State Educational Service Districts: https://ospi.k12.wa.us/about-ospi/about-school-districts/educational-service-districts-esd

Washington AIMS project (MTSS) https://goodladinstitute.org/aims/

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Don Johnston, who founded and leads Building Wings as CEO, developed his company to create educational technology and curriculum specifically designed for students with disabilities. Drawing from his personal journey with dyslexia, including his own delayed path to reading proficiency, Don openly discusses how he overcame learning challenges through key support systems. His experiences inform his passionate advocacy for maintaining high expectations for all students, as he credits this approach as crucial for academic achievement.

Resources:

Building Wings: https://www.buildingwings.com/

Monarch Reader: https://www.buildingwings.com/monarch-reader-books-for-beginning-readers-of-all-ages/

News Currents: https://www.buildingwings.com/news-currents/

Dynamic Learning Maps (DLM): https://dynamiclearningmaps.org/

Tiered Vocabulary: https://cpet.tc.columbia.edu/news-press/tiered-vocabulary-narrowing-your-instructional-focus

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Amy is a special education teacher from WA State, who was the 2020 Teacher of the Year award recipient and is also involved in the Professional Educator Standards Board and the WA Inclusionary Practice Technical Network. In this episode, Amy discusses her roles and experiences in special education, with a focus on the importance of collaboration, inclusion, and individualization. The potential of technology is also explored, such as artificial intelligence in education. Listen in to hear Amy express her passion for her work and her commitment to continuous learning and innovation with a focus on positive presuppositions.

Resources: Inclusionary Practices Technical Assistance Network (ITPN): https://ospi.k12.wa.us/student-success/support-programs/inclusionary-practices-technical-assistance-network-iptn WEA Inclusion Training: https://wea-win.org/events/500/ Professional Educator Standards Board: https://www.pesb.wa.gov/

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Throughout her career spanning more than 40 years, Gail Van Tatenhove has dedicated herself to working with AAC users although her connection to people with disabilities began in her youth, when she helped at her father's business. In this episode she emphasizes several core beliefs that guide her work including: using your intuition, making the most of available resources, avoiding excuses, and it’s all about the words- robust, frequently used words. Listen in to hear more!

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Rachel Madel wears multiple hats as a speech therapist, parent coach and podcast host with a passion for Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC). Together with Chris Bugej, she co-hosts "Talking with Tech," where they explore topics in assistive technology and communication. Known for creating and generously distributing educational resources, Rachel advocates for an open approach to sharing knowledge. In this episode she shares her philosophy that centers on the belief that leaning in and leading with sharing will enable a mindset that leads to great things.

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As an Occupational Therapist specializing in seating, positioning, mobility, and assistive technology, Karen brings her expertise to both clinical practice and education. Her approach emphasizes that supporting people with disabilities requires building strong relationships and considering each person's complete circumstances. Rather than viewing assistive technology as a solution in itself, Karen sees it as one tool within the broader context of daily living and learning. She emphasizes that our fundamental role is to create learning opportunities through meaningful activities, not through technology alone.

Resources: Interview: Empowering Movement: Karen Kangas on Transformative Therapies for Children with Complex Disabilities A Closer Look at Access (video)

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Glenna Wright-Gallo serves as the Assistant Secretary in the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services (OSERS) at the U.S. Department of Education. She played a key role in developing two influential resources: the Myths and Facts document and the National Education Technology Plan (NETP), which clarify available support systems and their intended purposes. Drawing from her diverse experiences as someone who uses assistive technology, a parent, and an educational leader, Glenna advocates passionately for assistive technology and believes that all students can learn.

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Dr. Krista Wilkinson published an article on evidence-based approach to AAC design for individuals with cortical visual impairment (CVI) based on the experience of Emma, a young woman with CVI. In this episode Krista explains the three pillars of an evidence-based practice approach (service providers, researchers, and families/clients) and describes three domains that are important considerations for AAC users with CVI: skills brought by the individual, responsibilities of the communication partner, and design choices for the AAC system.

Resource Article-

An evidence-based approach to augmentative and alternative communication design for individuals with cortical visual impairment: https://pubs.asha.org/doi/full/10.1044/2023_AJSLP-22-00397

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Whitney Van Klinken is a Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) at Yakima Children's Village-Multicare. She talks about her experiences working with children and adults doing Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) evaluations, including for those with vision impairments. She and Brenda discuss considerations when evaluating communication systems for students who are blind or have low vision or CVI. Together they share stories of using switches with students, observing vision behaviors and examples of the power of presuming competence.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

Children's Village- Multicare https://www.yakimachildrensvillage.org/

Hand under hand technique: https://www.nationaldb.org/media/doc/HandUnderHandTechnique_a.pdf

Partner Assisted Scanning (PAS): https://www.cajonvalley.net/Page/20599

PODD communication books: https://www.novitatech.com.au/podd-communication-books/

Adapted Switch Labs (ASL): https://www.asl-inc.com/

Low vision and assistive technology blog by Veronica Lewis: https://veroniiiica.com/

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Lynn and her daughter Emma struggled to find a way for Emma, who has Cortical Vision Impairment (CVI), to have access to a robust vocabulary. Together, working through page setup, navigation methods and symbol representation, they figured out what worked for Emma and called it See CVI, Speak AAC.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

See CVI Speak AAC: https://seecvispeakaac.com/

Comprehensive Resource List provided via Lynn Elko: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GINW6gNUpAMZfTn9weU4wWXOUmWsEhw8/view?usp=drive_link

An Evidenced-Based Approach to AAC Design for Individuals with CVI (Published in AJSLP with open access): https://pubs.asha.org/doi/10.1044/2023_AJSLP-22-00397

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Kathee Scoggin and Emma Packard both work with students who have combined vision and hearing loss including deaf-blindness and support the Washington DeafBlind Program https://wsds.wa.gov/deaf-blind/.

In this episode of the podcast Kathee and Emma share stories from their numerous experiences working with students who have combined vision and hearing loss. These stories call out important tips for working with this population, including: considerations for starting tactile symbols, what a good relationship between adults and students can do to improve communication skills, and what adults can learn when they provide adequate wait time for students with combined vision and hearing loss.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

National Center for Deafblindness https://www.nationaldb.org/

Learning Media Assessment Sensory Channels Form https://www.pathstoliteracy.org/learning-center/learning-media-assessment/

Deafblind Intervener Modules https://www.nationaldb.org/products/modules/ohoa/

Can You Feel The Thunder (book) https://www.amazon.com/Can-Feel-Thunder-Lynn-McElfresh/dp/068982324X

Child of the Silent Night (book) https://www.amazon.com/Child-Silent-Night-Fisher-Hunter/dp/0395068355

Washington DeafBlind Program https://wsds.wa.gov/deaf-blind/

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Marci Revelli is a Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) who has completed numerous AAC evaluations for kids with complex needs including vision. In this episode she talks about questions SLPs can ask families that give clues about the student's vision and shares stories of AAC evaluations with students who have low vision or CVI. Marci shares that pulling in all team members (especially family), taking AAC evaluations/trials slow, and trialing AAC systems in different settings with different people are key to finding the right AAC system for a child with low vision/CVI.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

AAC By The Bay Conference at the Bridge School: https://www.bridgeschool.org/outreach/aac-by-the-bay/

Perkins AAC CVI course: https://www.perkins.org/course/augmentative-and-alternative-communication-aac-and-cortical-cerebral-visual-impairment-cvi/

Texas School for the Blind learning modules: https://www.tsbvi.edu/statewide-resources/professional-development/online-learning

College of Optometrists in Vision Development: https://www.covd.org/

Bridging Voice: https://bridgingvoice.org/

Seattle Children's Hospital AAC Evaluation: https://www.seattlechildrens.org/clinics/augmentative-alternative-communication/

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Ting is a Teacher of Blind and Low Vision Students (TVI) and coordinates the Northwest Center for Assistive Technology Training (CATT-NW) at the WA State School for the Blind (WSSB). In this episode Ting cautions about the ableist perspective of prioritizing vision with students and instead asking ourselves what the student can still do with their sensory access. Ting also stresses the importance of introducing technology- any tools or systems that help people access and engage with information better- as soon as students are seeking and needing access to their environment.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

CATT-NW https://www.wssb.wa.gov/services/northwest-center-assistive-technology-training-catt-nw

National Federation of the Blind- Parents of Blind Children https://nfb.org/our-community/parents-blind-children

American Printing House https://www.aph.org/

Adaptive Design Association- Tangible Symbols https://www.adaptivedesign.org/communicationcards#:~:text=Tangible%20symbols%20are%20appropriate%20for,the%20communication%20partner%20can%20interpret.

Christopher Hills YouTube Channel for Switch Technology https://www.youtube.com/user/icdhills

Perkins Paths to Technology Newsletter: https://www.perkins.org/resource/paths-to-technology-newsletter/

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In this episode of the Awe and Wonder AAC & AT podcast Tanna Neufleld, SLP, discusses which students may be at risk for vision involvement and behaviors parents and practitioners can look for that might give clues that vision is impacted, and about using a student's preferred sensory modality. Tanna also talks about how her own vision diagnosis plays a role in her life and about the technology supports she uses in various settings.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

Stargardt Disease https://www.nei.nih.gov/learn-about-eye-health/eye-conditions-and-diseases/stargardt-disease

WA Department of Services for the Blind: https://dsb.wa.gov/ Lighthouse for the Blind https://lhblind.org/

Perkins School for the Blind ELearning https://www.perkins.org/perkins-elearning/

AACcessible.org The Stacks vision resources https://elink.io/p/aac-communication-boards-and-books-91aa5c2

Screening Tool (click "Blind/Low Vision/Deaf HH Resources" then "Three Pronged Approach") https://www.dcyf.wa.gov/services/child-dev-support-providers/esit/practice-guidance#tpa

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Amanda Soper is a Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) and Teacher of the Vison Impaired (TVI) in Washington D.C. In this podcast she discusses cerebral vision impairment and characteristics or visual behaviors you might notice in children. Amanda also explains how she uses semantic compaction language systems like Unity to support students with low vision.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

AACreATively Communicating https://www.aacreativelycommunicating.com/about

Vision and the Brain: Understanding Cerebral Vision Impairment in Children https://www.aph.org/product/vision-and-the-brain-understanding-cerebral-visual-impairment-in-children/

CVI Profile https://www.pattan.net/assets/PaTTAN/5a/5a5e836e-3369-4b95-9210-7e440b9fa8a9.pdf

CVI Range https://cviresources.com/cvi-range-assessment/

Unity language system https://www.prentrom.com/prc_advantage/unity-language-system

Conferences: ATIA https://www.atia.org/conference/ Closing the Gap https://www.closingthegap.com/conference/ CEC https://cecconvention.org/

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Luis Peréz is the Disability & Digital Inclusion Lead for CAST where he promotes the creation, delivery and use of high quality accessible educational materials and technologies to support equitable learning opportunities for all students. In this episode Luis references resources available from CAST, but also shares his own lived experience of having low vision, urging people to challenge assumptions around disability and be proactive in how we provide supports to low vision and blind students.

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Karanveer Singh is an AAC User and contributor to the Special Education Technology Center who recently won the 2024 Prentke AAC Distinguished Lecture. In this episode he is joined by his mother, KP Singh, and his family friend and OT Rose Racicot. KP, Rose and Karanveer talk to us about the role Karanveer's Indian culture, language and family values play in his life and his experience living in both India and Washington. Note: For the purposes of this podcast some periods of silence during which Karanveer is composing his messages using his AAC system have been edited.

Resources: 2024 Prentke AAC Distinguished Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hyBPF7-dWU&t=1s

My AAC Journey: Switches to Eye Gaze to Infinity with Karanveer Singh https://youtu.be/Wq0iLIviL-o?si=za_R64gc-cYKGN-7

Effortless Design: Eye Gaze Features Explored in Adobe Illustrator- Karanveer Singh https://youtu.be/FsFvXlUV9D8?si=RwjazJtclRmEVxTE

Breaking Barriers: Movie Editing with Alternative Access https://youtu.be/CDareDn-Je0?si=nCbpsC8UMJu3Sbtt

Tobii Dynavox Eye Gaze Systems https://us.tobiidynavox.com/

Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/

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Maria De Leon is an SLP in Southern California who specializes in AAC. She, along with two other SLPs, started a website called Bilingue AAC, which is packed with resources for parents, teachers, and SLPs who work with bilingual students. Maria reminds us that speaking multiple languages is part of a student's identity and culture and it is critical to take this into consideration with AAC assessment and implementation.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

BilingueAAC BilingueAAC is set to provide bilingual AAC resources to families and professionals that work with bilingual AAC users.

PrAACtical AAC PrAACtical AAC supports a community of professionals and families who are determined to improve the communication and literacy abilities of people with significant communication difficulties.

  • Cultural-Linguistic AAC: Bilingual Literacy and AAC :https://praacticalaac.org/featured-posts/cultural-linguistic-aac-bilingual-literacy-aac/

Diverse AAC @diverseaac Provides a chart of AAC systems in various languages. AAC app/Device Crosswalk: https://airtable.com/appoMuxhQEeROuLpp/shrViK9VEIP58GJhH/tblw0LUpFpVgg69mr/viwDZwqUflgQZjlZB?blocks=hide

Bookshare.org Bookshare provides access to digital books that can be read aloud with text-to-speech for eligible students.

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In this episode focused on cultural responsiveness, parents Tasha and Wolf share their experiences raising their daughter who has Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA) and the immense supports they have received along the way through their reservation, beginning with schooling at 6 months of age.

Resources based on discussion in this episode: SMA information: https://www.mda.org/disease/spinal-muscular-atrophyHead Start services: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ohs/about/head-startInclusive playgrounds: https://www.inclusiveplaygrounds.net/facts-of-inclusivity.htmlNative American advocacy groups: https://nativeamericatoday.com/political-organizations-and-advocacy-groups/Making worksheets accessible: https://youtu.be/8cRfRPTy_iY?si=ff2hGcjz1iXMyqfWInternational Day of Acceptance: https://nationaltoday.com/international-day-of-acceptance/

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Jordyn is an SLP who is passionate about cultural responsiveness and representation. She talks about attending a predominantly white school and later a historically black college or institution and how those experiences helped her become an advocate for herself and for others.

Mentioned in this podcast:

jrctheslp.com

The Color Of Autism Foundation https://thecolorofautism.org/

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Danielle Van Dusen is an Assistive Technology Specialist with Open Doors for Multicultural Families, an organization in Washington State that supports and partners with individuals with intellectual and/or developmental disabilities and their families, regardless of cultural or linguistic background.

https://opendoorswa.org/

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Toi and Carrisa are parents to their young daughter with complex needs and an older son who is typically developing. In this podcast they candidly share experiences of bias they've faced when getting services for their daughter and examples of what providers can do differently to help all families feel comfortable and heard.

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Dr. Renaldo Fowler works for the Arizona Center for Disability law. He tells us about the African American Conference on Disabilities that addresses the intersection between race and disability and about the importance of having a safe space for good conversations.

Mentioned in this podcast: African American Conference on Disability https://www.azdisabilitylaw.org/african-american-conference-on-disabilities/

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Dr. Scott, Assistant Professor at Minnesota State University Mankato in the Communication Sciences & Disorders Program, talks to us about cultural humility, tools providers can add to their cultural responsiveness toolbox, and the importance of knowing our students and families.

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

Textbook: Culturally Responsive Practices in Speech, Language and Hearing Sciences https://www.pluralpublishing.com/publications/culturally-responsive-practices-in-speech-language-and-hearing-sciences-1

Website: Leaders Project https://www.leadersproject.org/

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Chris talks to us about access to keyboards, the 80/20 rule for teaching, model the core and spell the fringe, and authentic ways to engage through literacy.

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Drew describes herself as a sassy, creative, outgoing lady with a side of disability. She describes the important role literacy plays in her life and encourages new AAC users to not give up.

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In this episode Elisa Wern talks about her Comprehensive Literacy For All Book Study group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/cl4all/ , being collaborative partners in literacy instruction, access to the alphabet, and much more!

Mentioned in podcast:

Fundamentals of AAC A Case Study Chapter Co Authored with Sarah Gregory on Sensory processing and AAC https://amzn.to/3skk5rI

Collaborative goals statement from AOTA, AOTA, and ASHA https://www.aota.org/-/media/corporate/files/practice/schools/joint-statement-on-interprofessional-collaborative-goals-in-school-based-practice.pdf

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Sharon Redmond is an AT Specialist and Special Education teacher who tells us "You just have to do, you have to be the person to do this" when it comes to implementing literacy instruction in your classroom.

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Krista Howard, AAC User, parent, student (and more!) shares her experience with literacy instruction growing up and the importance literacy plays in her life now.

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Gretchen Hanser shares her guiding principles around AAC and literacy!

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This teacher and SLP have a growth mindset around AAC and literacy!

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Beth reminds us that literacy is the most functional life skill of all.

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Co-Author of Comprehensive Literacy for All, Dr. David Koppenhaver provides advice moving forward with AAC and literacy.

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In this episode Sarah and Brenda discuss the consistent themes that emerged from our conversations with Leaders and Changemakers in the field. There were guiding principles that most guests referred to regardless of the advancements in technology.

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Dan encourages us to ask ourselves, "What does this student need?" and "What does this teacher need?" then start using critical thinking and trying different solutions.

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Join this conversation to receive excellent advice on how to focus on just "one thing" and leave a classroom better than you found it.

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Lauren Enders shares her thoughts on how to help other shift their mindset regarding the purpose of AAC which is for a person to say what they want to say when they want to say it...or NOT!

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Listening to Michele's stories of student success stories will bring what really really matters to the front and begin to plan a bright future for each student.

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Mo has a lot to share on advocacy, keeping each team member child focused and help each one think about way to do "more & different" for the benefit of the student.

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Barb and Cathy started regional and state Assistive Technology meetings that continue to this day. Listen in on how to be effective as an Assistive Technology leader in the schools.

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This conversations reveals nuggets of knowledge gained by being in the trenches for over 40 years!

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Jane Farrall has been a leader and changemaker in our careers, in particular in the area of AAC and Literacy.

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Meet 6 AAC Users and hear what they want people to know about them. All of these AAC have different devices and alternative access methods. All of them have strong personalities and can't wait to tell you what they really think.

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Jessica's story is powerful and demonstrates how toxic assumptions created walls. She then shared what helped her knock those walls down.

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These educators are finding ways to increase AAC buy-in with staff, administrators and others students.

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A general education teacher and special education teacher share insights into how they make inclusion work for students with significant disabilities and the impact it has on students and staff.

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Kristi Roher shared her son's story and we learned so much. Of note, every parent has a story and no one is getting to the IEP table unscathed. Her advice to extend grace and compassion to all participants in her child's life is priceless.

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We have a PT and SLP intervention team, as well as a lifeskills teacher of a kindergartener, talking about they are successfully introducing AAC to our youngest students.

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This conversation with Special Education Teacher, Marla Naisant, reveals successful implementation of AAC.

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Find out why we call our podcast Awe and Wonder AAC!

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In this podcast we were fortunate to have two wonderful moms join us to share their unique perspectives as parents of a child with autism. Even though their journeys are different they shared similar sentiments about human connection, authentic goals, and advocating for their kids. Listen in to find out what they had to say!