Hues of Leadership Podcast: Recent Episodes

DJ Menifee

The Hues of Leadership Podcast is where we’ll dive deep into the many prominent aspects of leadership. We’ll examine how leadership shows up in each of us and how we seek to have a positive influence on the lives of others. Just as HUES vary - so does leadership and how we show up as leaders and flex different hues depending on the moment, the task at hand, or the individual or team we are engaging. What hues are you using today? And which will you seek to further develop?

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Our next guest is Anthony Murdock a purpose-driven, action-oriented, servant-leader and proud product of Indianapolis, Indiana. He's a lawyer by trade, professor by occupation and business coach by passion. He serves as a board member for Butler University's Hub for Black Affairs & Community Engagement and The Habitat for Humanity of Greater Indianapolis. He's also a member of Eastern Star Church and Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. Ultimately, he's in the business of becoming the greatest powerpreneur the world has ever seen. Join us for a conversation about discipline, time management, and Black political thought.


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Our next guest has spent 25 years at a special private liberal arts college in the mountains of western NC as a coach (cross country/track and field), assistant athletic director and Vice President of Athletics and Club Sports. Blessed with many other opportunities in sports, he also interned as an undergrad with Charlotte Knights Triple A baseball team of Cleveland Indians at the time and interned with the Orlando Magic during the Shaq & Penny era. Join us for a conversation about leading with heart, leading without a manual, and rising from the ashes.


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Our next guest is the CEO of College Track, one of the most comprehensive college completion programs in the country. She holds the title of President Emerita at

Ithaca College, where she previously served as the institution’s ninth president—and its first president of color. She has held leadership roles at Rutgers University-Newark, Middlebury, and The Posse Foundation. She is a board member of ACT, Excelencia in Education, Kids First Chicago, StarRez , and Vanderbilt University, and is a founding member of Presidents’ Alliance on Higher Education and Immigration. Join us for a conversation about who gets on the bus, why real leaders join organizations, and cultivating a sense of belonging.


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Our next guest serves as the Associate Director of Admissions for Diversity and Inclusion at Purdue University-West Lafayette. He oversees Early Outreach and Transfer Admissions, as well as diverse prospective recruitment strategies. He served as the Indiana ACAC Chairs for the Professional Development Committee, Inclusion Access and Success Committee and served as INACAC President from 2019-2021. Most recently he was included in the Greater Lafayette top 10 under 40 selection. Join us for a conversation about acknowledging your worth, evolving excellence, and leaders making lifers.


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Our next guest draws from his upbringing, education, and professional experience to fulfill his commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion. D'Angelo Taylor currently serves as the inaugural Vice President for Hope, Unity & Belonging at Belmont University. In this role, he serves as the architect of the newly created division. As part of this work, he leads the university’s diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging initiatives in support of its strategic emphasis on embracing hope and inclusive excellence to reweave the social fabric. Join us for a conversation about active listening, perseverance, and patience.


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Our next guest serves as the Executive Director for the Colleges That Change Lives organization. Prior to representing the organization and championing the liberal arts from a student-centered college search and admission process lens, she was the College Bound Advisor at the Irma Lerma Rangel Young Women’s Leadership School in Dallas. She has served on multiple counselor advisory boards for a variety of colleges and universities, the Common Application Board of Directors, and the Johns Hopkins University Access Advisory Board. Join us for a conversation about seeing others, recognizing the backbone of the organization, and generational wisdom.


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Our next guest is Kris Wong Davis the Vice Provost for Enrollment Management and Dean of Admission at Carnegie Mellon University. During her career, she has held leadership roles at several large public universities. She found her passion in college access work early in her career in Arizona but was drawn to enrollment management for the impact that she could have in leading with an institutional commitment to college access. Join us as she shares her experience around having uncomfortable conversations, leading with inquiry, and leading in times of change.


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Our next guest is the AVP and Executive Director of Undergraduate Admission at Georgia Tech where he has served for 20 years. Over the last 8 years he’s written a regular blog on the college admission experience, demystifying things for parents and students, and bringing much needed transparency and levity to promote healthier conversations. He is also the co-author of The Truth about College Admission, which just published its second edition, and the co-host of a podcast under the same name. Join us for a conversation about multiple mediums of communication, delegation, and moving from being available to proactive engagement.


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Our next guest is in his fifteenth year as a higher education and enrollment management professional. A nationally renowned Latino admissions leader known for being student-centered, authentic, and present, his thoughts and insights have been shared in outlets such as Forbes, The Chronicle of Higher Education, the San Antonio Express News, and more. A former director of admission, Tony now supports colleges around the country through his own educational support practice, “Sarda Consulting”. Join us for a conversation about being more than your title, being your unique self, and preparing others to be better than you.


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Our next guest is the Co-Founder and Chief Evangelist of ZeeMee. A top app for prospective students to connect with one another as they explore colleges. ZeeMee works with close to 200 colleges and universities today, helping them to engage students in a fresh way, providing them with some of the most unique social engagement data in Higher Ed. Adam Metcalf has been in education for close to 20 years and is very passionate about building company culture. Join us for a conversation about being a blessing, the goodness of a gut punch, and how growth comes with rest.


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Our next guest became the 19th President of St. Lawrence University, a nationally ranked liberal arts college in Canton, NY, in July, 2021. Dr. Kate Morris joined the St. Lawrence community after 24 years at Butler University, last serving for over nine years as Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs. Since 2015, she has served on the Board of Trustees at Gettysburg College. Join us for a conversation about quiet leadership, courage, and being authentically you.


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Our next guest is recognized as a national expert on enrollment and is often cited on topics related to college admissions and ethical considerations in enrollment in the Chronicle of Higher Education, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and other new outlets. He has 20 years of experience in higher education working, with 12 years serving in a senior leadership role in enrollment management. He was recently announced as the inaugural Vice Provost for Enrollment Management at the University of Georgia.


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Our next guest is the CEO at Soar Detroit, a nonprofit organization focused on improving literacy rates for 2nd and 3rd graders in the city of Detroit, MI. He has also served as a High School Principal at the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy and is a 3-time All-American in track and field. Join us for a conversation with Russell Harris as he unpacks themes of leadership requiring faith, the value of courage & curiosity, and being able to persevere.


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Our first guest for season II, is the founder and CEO of Accelerated Equity Insights, which seeks to create more diverse communities by removing bias in recruitment communications, and co-Founder and Executive Director of ACCEPT, which stands for Admissions Community Cultivating Equity & Peace Today. Join us for a conversation with Marie Bigham as she unpacks leadership being like surfing, the importance of community, and the value of an open mind. 

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Our last  guest of the season has impacted my leadership through his willingness to support initiatives I was coordinating in addition to recommending/nominating me for leadership development opportunities in my career. Join us for a conversation with Jerry Pope, former Dean of College Counseling at Niles High School District 219, overseeing two large public high schools, Niles North and Niles West, in the metro area of Chicago. Our conversation will explore the hues of leadership through generosity, empowerment, and activism. 

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through his ability to support me in embracing feedback as a leader and how to act on the feedback while still being my authentic self. He is a human resource leader and certified professional coach with more than 30 years of experience. He concluded his professional career as a Chief Human Resource Officer at Anthem (now Elevance Health) and has spent the last 9 years as a career mentor and leadership coach for undergraduates, graduates, and high potential staff. Join us for a conversation with Randy Brown, a current career mentor and leadership coach at Butler University. Our conversation will explore the hues of leading self, professional leadership, and give-back leadership.  

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through his willingness and ability to provide guidance, direction, and support to other professionals in the college admission field – he wants others to be great. Join us for a conversation with Vern Granger, current chair of the board for the National Association for College Admission Counseling and the Director of Admission for the University of Connecticut. Our conversation will unpack commitment to mission and vision, never forgetting the long game, and understanding your professional brand and role it plays in your career growth.

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through his intentional approach with how he uses his time - always being in alignment with his WHY - internally and externally to his vocation in enrollment. Join us for a conversation with Femi Ogundele, the Associate Vice Chancellor of Enrollment and Dean of Admission for UC-Berkeley. Our conversation will unpack 1) code switching to “switch the code,” 2) allies, accomplices, and adversaries, and 3) centering diversity work in a place of whiteness. 

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through her approach to guiding enrollment professionals through the executive search process. She is clear, direct, and thoughtful with timely feedback. Join us for a conversation with Mary Napier, the founding principal for Napier Executive Search, now known as NES. Our conversation will unpack the hues of encouragement, a sense of belonging, and providing honest assessments  during times of change. 

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through always being grounded in their values and beliefs. Join us for a conversation with Ramon Blakley, past president of the Texas Association for College Admission Counseling (TACAC) and the Director of Recruitment in the Office of Admissions at The University of Texas at Austin. Our conversation will unpack the perspective of what leadership means to him, leading through change, and data-driven versus data-informed decisions. 

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through their ability to create environments that support professional development, leadership growth, and cultures/environments where voices matter. Join us for a conversation with Sacha Thieme, Assistant Vice Provost and Executive Director of Admissions at Indiana University Bloomington. Our conversation will unpack the perspective of leaders as coaches, having a growth mindset, and being a maximizer. 

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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through their ability to show up in every space as their authentic self. Join us for a conversation with Eddie Pickett III, Senior Associate Dean and Director of Recruitment at Pomona College and a Board Director for the National Association For College Admissions Counseling.  Our conversation will unpack “If I eat, we all eat.,” not expecting perfection but expecting greatness, and life-long learning.


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Our guest has impacted my leadership through their passion and ability for coaching and guiding admission teams through a leadership lens. Join us for a conversation with Jeremy Tiers, Senior Director of Admission Services for Tudor Collegiate Strategies. Grab a pen and some paper as Jeremy reflects on intentionality, empathy, and listening.


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Our next guest has impacted my leadership through the hue of intentionality. Join us for a conversation with Quinton Clay, a thought-leader with 17 years of experience serving as the Vice President of Enrollment Management, Marketing & Communications at Fontbonne University. Our discussion will focus on “learning and relearning the rhythm of our values,” “perfection as a lonely meal,” and “purpose over pride.” 

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Our guest has impacted my life and leadership by providing my first opportunity to contribute to the college admission profession. Join us for a conversation with Bill Sliwa, a higher ed leader with over 30 years of experience currently with the Registry, a service supporting higher ed institutions through interim chief enrollment officer placements.  We’ll dive into 3 hues: “No one knows how much you know until they know how much you care,” “what you see is what you have taught or fail to correct,” and “if it is to be, it is up to me.”

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Our guest for this episode has impacted my leadership through their ability to listen and observe others through a servant-style of leadership. Join us for a conversation with Angelica Melendez, College Bound Advisor at Luther Burbank High School in San Antonio, TX and also Chair-elect for the National Association for College Admission Counseling Board of Directors. We’ll dive into servant leadership, what it means to be transformational, and the hue of coaching.


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Our third guest has impacted my leadership through their ability to connect with anyone they engage with - the intentionality behind engagement.  Join us for a conversation with Corey Richardson, the Director of Strategic Partnerships for the Golden Apple Foundation, which honors, develops, and trains teachers in Illinois. We will discuss the hues of communication, the art of gathering, and the importance of re-thinking. 

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Our guest has impacted my leadership through their ability to deeply care for and engage those around him - the power of relationships. Join us for a conversation with DeVone Eurales, more recently the Director of Admission at Knox College and now impacting our youth in his role as a family engagement specialist at Galesburg Junior High. A man of faith, of purpose, and a desire to serve, DeVone will share his perspective on “humility,” “equity,” and “accountability.” 

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Our first guest has impacted my leadership through their ability to cast a vision and in keeping the team focused on long-term goals. Join us for a conversation with Dr. Angel Pérez, CEO of NACAC, the National Association for College Admission Counseling. A national thought leader and change agent as we discuss leading with optimism, “people support what they help build,” and decipher what “ABCD” really means.

Books Referenced:

Setting the Table by Danny Meyer