Resilience engineering is one of the most forward-looking fields to surface in our industry in the last 5 years.

That's why I'm so excited to have J.Paul Reed as my guest. Paul is one of the most passionate promoters of resilience engineering practices. He's a co-organizer of REDeploy, a frequent speaker on related topics and now also a senior applied resilience engineer at Netflix.

And he's also a great story-teller!

This episode is also slightly longer than usual because in the end Paul goes into what I considered too important to stop him - the distinction between reliability and resilience.

Listen to the episode to learn:

• Why release engineers are the air traffic controllers of IT

• Why it's important to treat humans as humans

• What names Paul considers important mentioning when talking DevOps ;)

• What happens if a reliability engineer and a resilience engineer pick a fight