We were delighted to welcome John Patroulis, Worldwide Chief Creative Officer at Grey Group, on this episode of the Love This Podcast.

We explored John's background at some of the world's best agencies, his decision to start and sell twofifteenmcann, what he learned leading the global creative output for BBH, and how he's found the last few years at Grey Group.

We also looked at the value of creativity in a post COVID-19 world, how Grey are transforming at scale to remain relevant, and a few practical tips that John has for younger people joining the industry.