Recording date: Nov 18, 2021

John Papa @John_Papa

Ward Bell @WardBell

Dan Wahlin @DanWahlin

Craig Shoemaker @craigshoemaker

Mark Thompson @MarkTechson

Brought to you by* AG Grid * Ionic

Resources:* Crafting Bespoke PWA experiences with Angular by Mark Thompson * ngConf * IBM PS1 * BASIC * The Byrds - Turn! Turn! Turn! * Sarah Drasner * Engineering Management for the Rest of Us - book by Sarah Drasner * Flutter * IntelliJ

Timejumps 00:49 Ward's bellydancing tryout * 02:49 Guest introduction * 04:48 What was your talk about at Ngconf? * 07:29 The relationship between hobby and money * 09:21 Sponsor: Ionic * 10:06 What does life outside of code mean to you? * 17:18 Are these seasons in our lives? * 28:44 Sponsor: Ag Grid * 29:51* People are different - what does life outside of code mean now?

Podcast editing on this episode done by Chris Enns of Lemon Productions.