Recording date: June 15, 2021

John Papa @John_Papa

Ward Bell @WardBell

Dan Wahlin @DanWahlin

Craig Shoemaker @craigshoemaker

David Neal @ReverentGeek

Brought to you by* AG Grid * IdeaBlade

Resources:* David Neal (Website) * Dan Roam: Show and Tell * Practice in Public * Brad Colbow * Reverent Geek: About Page * David’s Illustrated OAuth Guide * Dan Roam: Draw to Win * Zetlekasten

Timejumps 01:00 Guest introduction * 01:35 How did you get into sketch noting? * 08:11 Sponsor: Ag Grid * 09:14 Dad joke illustrations * 13:41 Do you share your early talks? * 17:53 Even bad drawings are still art * 23:36 How do you describe non-visual items? * 27:37 Tell your story * 31:12 Sponsor: IdeaBlade * 32:09 Lessons from software development that relate to drawing * 35:11 What kind of tools or software should someone start with? * 44:06* Final thoughts

Podcast editing on this episode done by Chris Enns of Lemon Productions.