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Welcome to another episode of The gimme five podcast. I'm your host, Chris Gilmour. And today's topic is quite an interesting one what we experienced just a short time ago, and I'll I'll lay some context around the whole reason for this actual podcast. So it's, it's around judgment, but it's also around what's it being around successful people and humble people and people that like the top of the game. So let me lay some context so many would know that we're one of the major partners for the Brisbane bullets. And with that comes obviously some perks and some experiences that yeah, we get to enjoy with the team. So we were asked by the CEO, Pete McLennan to join them with the team down to the Andrew Gaze MVP awards night which was held at the crown casino in Melbourne. And when I got that invite, I'm like, of course, like, you know, I'm gonna be in a room full of superstars, a lot of, you know, ex NBA players, current NBA players, some other celebrities. But just to be around the team and uncommon experience what one of these gala nights these award nights are all about, because I've never actually been to one before. And it was a really surreal experience. So I got my mate to come with me. So the wife and the kids stayed at home, it was just a quick 18 hour trip, fly in fly out, stayed at the crown casino where the awards night was, it was nice and easy. So flew out of Brisbane flew straight into Melbourne. And as soon as we got to the hotel, we were going into the lift. And it's a really nice metropole, I think it was on Crown Towers, it was where we were staying. So it's probably the nicer of the three that the crown casino has in their hotels, and really flash. And anyway, we're waiting there at the lift, and it was myself and my mate mark. And there was these two old people. And we were wearing Brisbane bullets are tight, obviously been with the team and stuff. And we got into the lift. And the old gentleman says to me, are you going to the basketball awards night tonight? And I'm like, Yeah, well, yeah, we certainly are, we can't wait should be an amazing night. And I could see that he was having some trouble. He was getting a little flustered. He couldn't actually know how to work the lift. And it wasn't one of the swipe lifts and then push your your floor number it was you actually had to put your card number in your card into the slot and then push on the floor level that you would go into. Anyway. So I did mine, we were on level five. And I said Mike, give me give me a card. What level are you on in days at level 19 in this sort of a It was sort of an Australian slash American accent. So we're sort of thought we'd looked at him and I'm like, TCE must have something to do with basketball, or he might be a sponsor, or I've got no idea who this guy was. And anyway, we got into floor 19 enjoy a night cla.ad You know, that was a cool 30 seconds and we jumped out of the lift and me and my mate looked at each other and so yeah, we're probably thinking the same thing. You know, how hard is it when you get older, you know, he couldn't even work a lift and stuff like that. Anyway, went on, went back downstairs, drop their bags off and when we shot straight into the NBA store in Melbourne now there's only two stores I think in Australia and they're both in Melbourne so we could have missed this opportunity. We had about a four hour gap. So we're like we're going shopping and we went to this the NBA store and they do all custom jerseys and I brought my wife some jerseys. My kids and I picked up a Kobe Bryant jersey for myself and just went all out and I think the guy in the store was like who is this? There is this person like he's just coming in and like literally it was like 1516 jerseys we wa