Podium Time: Recent Episodes

Podium Time

The Podcast for Conductors and Students. On Podium Time we interview professional, established, and emerging conductors and teachers from orchestras, symphonies, ballets, operas, and bands around the globe. We dig into the weeds of score study, rehearsal, leadership, musicianship, education, classical and contemporary composers, and all the things that they don't teach us in school. Please visit https://PodiumTimePod.com to view show notes and all episodes.

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Conductors Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy C. discuss how we can define our mission and the impact that we have on audiences.

Show notes at https://podiumtimepod.com/chelsea-gallo.

Grab your copy of Jeremy's Score Study Checklist by signing up at http://eepurl.com/hgmYAb

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Today we talk with Dr. Noreen Green and uncover how to build community support for our orchestras. We discuss how she built the Los Angeles Jewish Symphony into a relevant and thriving orchestra that crosses cultural barriers to reach diverse audiences and how she used creative programming and collaborations to connect with her community of audiences.

Visit the Los Angeles Jewish Symphony at LAJS.org.

Hidden Gems:

  • Leonard Bernstein's Halil - https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=asXkGs33UnI
  • The Music of Eric Zeisl - https://open.spotify.com/album/1R6iDrKevX5bx9Z0aMt25j?si=GrIcp-kaSWCY4Bbw_egNjw
  • Women of Valor - https://open.spotify.com/album/4n27osfmvlqUaTzcEYKURQ?si=wYv19ra7Qz2AzHH7KNJsYw

Grab your copy of Jeremy's Score Study Checklist by signing up at http://eepurl.com/hgmYAb

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Sign up for a free 1-hour meeting with Jeremy to help you upgrade your conducting, build your audiences, and reach the next level of your career: https://calendly.com/jdcuebas/free-meeting

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This is a teaser (and practice run) for my upcoming Keynote for the Internation Music Education Summit on Thursday, June 15 at 9 a.m. EST.

When you face difficulties in your career, it's important to reconnect with your why, your impact, and your resilience to push forward and make a difference.

Get your tickets at MusicEducationSummit.org and use the code FRIENDSOFJEREMY to get 20% off your registration.

Join the International Music Education Summit at MusicEducationSummit.org and use my code FRIENDSOFJEREMY for 20% off your registration ($97 down to $77.60).

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Who is the "Main Character" in your work? 

For a responsible, effective, service-based conductor, it will be your audience, your orchestra, or your community.

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Do you feel overwhelmed by your workload, constantly chasing deadlines, or struggling to find a balance in your daily life?

You deserve better.

The key to breaking free lies in mastering productivity, and I'm here to help!

Register for free at https://jdcuebas.com/productivity

My name is Jeremy and I am a conductor, teacher, podcaster, and productivity coach. I've spent the past 12 years learning, testing, and developing the keys to sustainable productivity, and now I'm sharing them with you!

Join me for a free masterclass on Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12 pm Eastern Time to learn how I founded and grew my podcast all while acing my classes in grad school, working a job, teaching students, and building my freelance career.

Register for free at https://jdcuebas.com/productivity

Join us for the Productivity Masterclass on April 8th to take control of your time and accomplish more with less stress.

Just join our mailing list here and look for the link later this week: http://eepurl.com/hgmYAb

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Conductors Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy Cuebas discuss how stories resonate with audiences and how we can transform audiences with live performances.

Show notes at PodiumTimePod.com/Chelsea-Gallo

Apply for the free April coaching program here: https://forms.gle/z3bk9hmuQoa4uBZ47

This 4-week course starts April 8th at 12:00 p.m. Estern and includes training, individual coaching, homework, and a final project. 

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Today, we talk about what conductors and musical leaders can do to connect with audiences and welcome new people into the concert hall.

This is part two of our talk with Aubrey Bergauer about Building Back Audiences. Part one is about the state of the classical music industry and what changes institutions can make to help build audiences.

Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@podiumtimepod

Learn more about Aubrey Bergauer at AubreyBergauer.com

  • 01:27 - How can conductors make our concerts more accessible to newcomers?
  • 10:30 - How conductors can engage with the community
  • 14:01 - Shortcomings of music education
  • 20:47 - Advice Aubrey wishes she'd received 10 years ago
  • 23:31 - Summary and next steps for listeners
  • 26:09 - Plugs
  • 26:27 - Aubrey's Hidden Gem
  • 27:36 - Aubrey's Billboard message to all musical leaders
  • 28:22 - Outro

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy C. discuss what Classical Music Institutions can learn from the world of sports and for-profit companies to attract and retain audiences.

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If you haven't seen Tár yet. Pause the podcast and go watch it!

Tár is the story of Lydia Tár, Music Director of the Berlin Phil, whose life starts to spiral out of control after a series of controversial revelations.

In this PT Chat episode, Jeremy and Luke discuss the movie, their favorite parts, and the negative messages it sends.

Part of what makes this movie so great is the depth of research and authenticity in the classical world. The conductor John Mauceri was consulted when developing the script, and the film features lots of real playing by the Dresden Phil.

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Ruth Hartt is an arts marketing genie! Join us to discuss how we can fix our concerts and our marketing to be more welcoming to the outsiders that we desperately need.

Insider audiences are too small, and we don't know how to attract classical music outsiders to our concerts. So how do we get new people to listen to classical music?

Through "The Art of Gathering" and "Jobs to Be Done Theory," Ruth Hartt has developed principles for attracting, welcoming, and changing new audiences for the better.

  • 1:47 Why classical music organizations are struggling and how Ruth is helping build back audiences
  • 5:37 How “The Art of Gathering” redefines the purpose of our concerts
  • 9:45 "Jobs to be Done" Theory and its radical implications for arts marketing
  • 22:07 New marketing examples for arts organizations
  • 24:33 Why unspoken concert etiquette is anti-diversity
  • 33:28 Ego-Centric Marketing and how to fix our message
  • 42:00 What has Ruth changed her mind about?
  • 44:04 Closing: Plugs, Hidden Gem, and Billboard

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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My fancy podcasting program isn't working, so I took this chance to share an overview of the basics of building back audiences.

These are the critical mindset shifts that we NEED to embrace to reach new audiences and keep them coming back. 

Let us know what you think by sending us a message on our website, our social media, or via email at podiumtimepodcast@gmail.com

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Building audience diversity is not about PR programs, Black History Month concerts, or playing diverse composers on a few programs.

It's about not reducing an entire population in our community to the color of their skin.

Building audience diversity is about realizing that "diversity" is more nuanced. It's about realizing that we connect by building relationships.

It's about not Expensive PR campaigns that attract diverse audiences to a single concert (if at all). These don't result in lasting change because diverse audiences don't feel welcome in our art form. They may know that we are having a concert, but they do not care.

Even the fact that we refer to diverse audiences as "they" in these paragraphs makes it clear that this discussion is long overdue.

Today, we talk with Jeri Lynne Johnson about her consulting work with DEI Arts Consulting and how they take classical music organizations through the process of understanding diversity. She shares why standard "diversity" programs aren't effective, what actually motivates diverse audiences to attend events, and how telling diverse stories in the arts is the key to equity and inclusion for the rest of our culture.

Learn more about Jeri Lynne at JeriLynneJohnson.com, DEI Arts Consulting at DEIArtsConsulting.com, and the Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra at BlackPearlCO.org.

00:00 Intro

01:30 Jeri's DEI Arts Consulting practice and why diversity consulting is not about a one-time fix

03:14 Redefining "Diversity" and what organizations, especially classical music organizations, get wrong about diversity, equity, and inclusion.

10:22 Diversity beyond race and building relationships with your community

18:44 Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra: how it developed from a need to engage audiences of color and change what orchestras were offering.

23:56 The importance of diversity on the stage and the role it plays in the diversity of the audience

27:19 Closing and Plugs

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Conductor Tiffany Chang has become a force to be reckoned with; a confident, vulnerable, and inspirational force to be reckoned with.

In part 1 of our discussion with Tiffany, we talk about leadership as the idea of taking care of those within our care, and how we can support and empower the musicians that make the music on stage.

Learn more about Tiffany at TiffanyChang.net and on her blog at ConductorAsCEO.com

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Today we talk with David Taylor all about how we can attract new audiences, engage with them, and get our old audiences coming back. That all has to do with the experiences that we provide all around our concerts: before, after, and during.

Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel.

Learn more about David Taylor at David-Taylor.org

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. 

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We are joined by THE Aubrey Bergauer to talk about why classical musicians and organizations must make big changes to survive in our new world.

We talk about the trends in the classical music industry, why we must redefine who we think of as our audiences, how to program for audience building and retention, and how to change the concert experience to get first-time audiences to come again.

Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel.

Learn more about Aubrey Bergauer at AubreyBergauer.com

00:00 Intro
00:22 Introducing Aubrey Bergauer
01:47 Defining "Building Back Audiences
05:00 Why 90% of Classical Music Audiences never come back
10:16 Programming for audience retention and growth
14:54 Upleveling concerts with visuals and stories
23:18 Plugs
23:42 Outro

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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We are joined by THE Aubrey Bergauer to talk about why classical musicians and organizations must make big changes to survive in our new world.

We talk about the trends in the classical music industry, why we must redefine who we think of as our audiences, how to program for audience building and retention, and how to change the concert experience to get first-time audiences to come again.

Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel.

Learn more about Aubrey Bergauer at AubreyBergauer.com

00:00 Intro
00:22 Introducing Aubrey Bergauer
01:47 Defining "Building Back Audiences
05:00 Why 90% of Classical Music Audiences never come back
10:16 Programming for audience retention and growth
14:54 Upleveling concerts with visuals and stories
23:18 Plugs
23:42 Outro

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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Hey there! We are building into our new season on "Building Back Audiences" and we want to know what questions you have that we can answer!

Reach out to us on our website, Facebook, Instagram, or by email and let us know what you want to know about building back audiences, being relevant, and building your ensembles a solid base for the future.

Aubrey Bergauer's Orchestra X research on the audience experience.

Let us know what you want to learn in our new season on "Building Back Audiences."

Send us a message on social media at @podiumtimepod, email us at podiumtimepodcast@gmail.com, or use the contact form on our website at https://podiumtimepod.com/contact/

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Today we discuss: (note, timecodes may be up to two minutes off depending on pre-episode announcements)

  • How Enrico came to specialize in pops and family programming (3:23)
  • How Enrico structures a Pops season and how the Nashville Symphony competes with all the other music available in Nashville. (6:24)
  • Enrico shares his process for creating family concerts and the goals behind them (18:07)
  • How Symphonica productions is helping orchestras build audiences for the future (28:58)
  • Advice on how regional, community, and educational directors can improv their pops and family programming (36:30)
  • Enrico’s Final Advice: Don’t treat pops or family as lesser than classics (49:24)
  • Gem and Billboard (55:40): Lucía, by Vinicio Meza

Visit Enrico on his website, or click below to learn more about The Upbeat Podcast, Everything Conducting, and Symphonica Productions.

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Don't listen to this if it's your first episode of Podium Time!

Link to the blog post I wrote in 12 minutes about this: https://jdcuebas.com/being-a-conductor-is-hard-becoming-a-conductor-is-harder/

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Conductor George Marriner Maull and the Discovery Orchestra are teaching audiences to...Listen to Music!

In a time when we tend to hear music in the background, we’ve lost (or never learned) the skill of listening to music. How many of your audience members are reading the program notes or lost in thoughts about green beans? Probably most of them. Today we are learning how to teach our audience to listen.

The unabridged episode is no longer available, but you can still visit our Patreon community

Today we discuss:

  • The origin of the Discovery Orchestra, an orchestra that exclusively performs educational concerts
  • The format of the Discovery Concerts and how Maestro Maull teaches audiences how to listen to classical music
  • How learning to listen well through classical music enhances all the music that audiences listen to
  • The most effective pieces Maestro Maull has found for teaching audiences to listen
  • Maestro Maull’s closing advice, billboard, and hidden gems

Visit the Discovery Orchestra at DiscoveryOrchestra.org, and watch their broadcasted Discovery Concerts on Amazon Video.

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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David Itkin joins us this week on Podium Time. Maestro Itkin is the Director of Orchestras at the University of North Texas, Music Director of the Abilene Philharmonic, and Conductor Laureate of the Arkansas Symphony Orchestra.

Today we discuss the stories behind his first book, Conducting Concerti, and why it’s critical to learn how to accompany a soloist well. We also discuss the many drawbacks of focusing your study on just musicality or conducting technique. Finally, David gives us a sneak peek of his new book planned for 2022. The book features a curriculum for learning and practicing crucial conducting excerpts.

Today we discuss:

  • Why David Itkin wrote a book about Conducting Concerti, and why what we’re really good at is often what we used to be really bad at. (05:09)
  • Navigating the psychology of preparing a concerto with the soloist and orchestra. (09:43)
  • The most common issues that David Itkin has to fix with workshop participants, and how to be prepared to get the most out of your session with a conducting teacher and ensemble. (19:44)
  • How the conducting program at UNT is designed to prepare a conductor to enter the professional world by including preparation for Pops and Education concerts for conducting students. (33:30)
  • A conducting workshop between two covers: A sneak peek of David Itkin’s new book of advanced musical and technical issues in the orchestral repertoire, including a reduction of each example for use in the classroom. (42:38)
  • Hidden Gems and Final Advice. (56:07)

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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10 Lessons from Interviewing over 100 Conductors on Podium Time.

Watch this episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTnRSe63378

After over 100 interviews with conductors on Podium Time, we have learned a lot about conducting and the life around it. Every conductor has a different story and every conductor has a different perspective. This episode of the podcast attempts to distill all that wisdom into just 10 lessons from the Podium Time Podcast.

  1. Conducting is barely about conducting. (0:49)
  2. There are a lot of paths to becoming a conductor...but actually there are only just a few. (2:59)
  3. Harmony and Structure are (possibly) the most important parts of music. (4:54)
  4. It's hard to talk about "music." (6:09)
  5. There's always more work than you think there's going to be. (7:10)
  6. Sometimes things are just out of your control. (8:00)
  7. There are SO MANY conductors in the world. (9:42)
  8. People like to give advice. (10:18)
  9. Listen again and again. (11:13)
  10. You've just got to stay in it as a conductor (13:10)

And that's it! 10 lessons from our interviews with over 100 conductors to send you off into the second half of this year. Please keep conducting, keep leading, keep studying, and keep putting great music into the world. If you're listening to this podcast then I know you're serious about becoming a better conductor. And the good news is that you're in the right place!

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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Today we've got a special crossover episode of the podcast featuring The Classical Gabfest. After one of their hosts appeared on Podium Time (Kensho Watanabe, PT102), they invited Jeremy on to play a game at the beginning of this episode. Following that is a full episode of the Classical Gabfest featuring stories on Curtis entering the Arts Management game, Glenn Gould's program on "How Mozart Became a Bad Composer," and an interview with composer Dale Trumbore. They round it all off with the Classical Mixtape, where each host shares their suggested listening for this week.

I really hope that you enjoy this episode of the podcast and will go subscribe on your preferred podcast platform. You can find all their episodes at https://cgf.buzzsprout.com/1313269

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This week, we start out with a rousing round of Back to the Future AKA Retrogradus ad Parnassum with Jeremy D. Cuebas of the Podium Time podcast, and then we move on to our three topics:

CURTIS WADES INTO THE ARTIST MANAGEMENT GAME
Facebook announcement

GLENN GOULD’S “HOW MOZART BECAME A BAD COMPOSER”
https://youtu.be/1pR74rorRxs

DALE TRUMBORE ON “STAYING COMPOSED”
Dale Trumbore
Buy the book

CLASSICAL MIXTAPE
The full playlist

Dale
Reena Esmail, Piano Trio, mvmt. 3

Will
Schnittke, Concerto for Mixed Chorus, mvmt. 1

Kensho
Haydn, String Quartet in D major, No.5, mvmt. 4. Finale

Tiffany
Liszt, “Consolation” No. 3

THINK YOU CAN STUMP US? GO AHEAD AND TRY!
Google Form for “Name that Tune: Stump the Hosts Edition”

You can reach us at classicalgabfest@gmail.com and on social media:

Facebook
Twitter
Instagram

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This PT Mini Episode covers the basics of score study. What it is, why we do it, and the simple two-step process to preparing your music.

Let us know what you think of these mini episodes. What do you want to hear more of? What should we cover? Reach out on social media or through the contact page on our website.

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Last week's Pt Mini Episode discussed regularly checking up on how your conducting is doing and generating a list of things to work on. This week, we talk about how to actually make changes to your conducting in any situation.

Let us know what you think of these mini episodes. What do you want to hear more of? What should we cover? Reach out on social media or through the contact page on our website.

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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Today we talk with conductor Damien Crutcher, Co-Founder and CEO of Crescendo Detroit, about how he adapted the best parts of El Sistema to make a difference in his community and how you can engage your students in a deeper way through collaborations between educators and performers.

Today we Discuss:

  • 00:51 Damien’s work with the Detroit Symphony, and how he’s building a program to get an instrument in the hands of any kid who wants one
  • 12:49 How Damien adapted the best parts of El Sistema to make a difference in his community through Crescendo Detroit
  • 24:50 How to enhance the impact of music education by incorporating performance-focused guest teachers and showing young musicians what is possible
  • 40:05 And Introduction to H. Robert Reynolds, the Dean of Wind Band Conductors, and how he brought Damien to the next level as a conductor and musician
  • 52:55 Detroit Style Pizza, and all the best places to eat in the city
  • 57:42Hidden Gems and Final Advice

Hidden Gems:

  • Kevin Day
  • Adolphus Hailstork
  • Valerie Coleman
  • Omar Thomas
    • Of Our New Day Begun
    • Come Sunday

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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Today we're talking about how to keep improving as a conductor long after you've left school. By running a regular checkup, you can identify what bad habits are getting in your way.

Let us know what you think of these mini episodes. What do you want to hear more of? What should we cover? Reach out on social media or through the contact page on our website.

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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In this first experimental episode of the podcast, we seek clarity by asking what we're trying to say at any point in our study, rehearsal, or performance.

Let us know what you think of these mini episodes. What do you want to hear more of? What should we cover? Reach out on social media or through the contact page on our website.

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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Today we're excited to speak with conductor Carl Topilow all about his new book, The Orchestral Conductor's Career Handbook. We cover his advice for young conductors and musicians wanting to start conducting, how to make sure you're ready to win an audition, and how to pick the best school for you.

Get 30% off Carl's new book when you pre-order it with the code here.

Today we discuss:

  • 05:21 Introduction to Carl’s new book; The Orchestral Conductor’s Career Handbook
  • 08:38 Advice on where young musicians should start their journey to conducting
  • 19:24 How to pick a program that’s right for you, and the factors that can bring forward or hold back an auditioning conductor
  • 38:54 Advice for some of Carl’s favorite people: young musicians and fresh graduates
  • 50:21 The most important lessons that Carl learned from other conductors and teachers
  • 1:00:24 Hidden Gems and Final advice

Hidden Gems:

  • Moritz Moszkowski - Suite for Two Violins and Piano in G Minor, Op. 71
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzV_ikDQiwY (original w/ score)
    • https://youtu.be/4qjGwV2DfnQ (Carl’s arrangement)
  • Franz Berwald - Symphony No.3 in C-major "Sinfonie singulière" (1845)
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0G1Z9dwyPU
  • Rozsa: Theme,Variations and Finale - Bernstein - NYP 1943
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0fpNSKViso
  • Rezso Kokai – Four Hungarian Dances for Clarinet and Orchestra
    • https://youtu.be/8mGy8fPJ0zI (Carl’s arrangement)
  • Bela Kovacs – Homage to Carl Maria von Weber
  • Alexey Shor - Verdiana
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-EFAw7yR7Y

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Today we talk with conductor Kenneth Woods about expanding our understanding of Gustav Mahler by delving into the context and reactions to his world at Colorado Mahlerfest, why we must be more intentional in programming significant works from composers, and how we can gain a deeper understanding of a composers’ relationship to their music by how they revised it.

Kenneth is the Artistic Director of Colorado Mahlerfest, the English Symphony Orchestra, and the Elgar Festival. He sat down with us all the way back in 2019 in anticipation of the 2020 Mahlerfest, but as you can probably guess that never happened! So after holding onto this episode for a year and a half we’ve finally decided that it’s the right time to release it, and I’m so glad that we were able to.

We discuss:

  • How the purpose of the Colorado MahlerFest has evolved as Mahler grew from an unknown voice to a staple of the symphonic repertoire (9:25)
  • What’s special about MahlerFest, and why Ken flies halfway around the world to lead it each year (17:02)
  • Creative fundraising, and how MahlerFest has developed from a local event to an International Festival (28:29)
  • The best 2nd symphonies, and why classical music lists can be a great tool for attracting new audiences (35:49)
  • The 21st Century Symphony Project and commissioning significant new works (45:09)
  • How performing multiple symphonies by a single composer gives us an intimate view of their outlook on life (56:22)
  • What we can learn from comparing how Schumann and Mahler revised their symphonies (1:03:00)
  • Hans Gal: more than just the guy who edited the Brahms symphonies (1:13:11)
  • Our job as conductors presenting unfamiliar composers to audiences (1:24:21)

Mentioned:

  • Mahlerfest Schedule: https://mahlerfest.org/whats-on/
  • ESO Digital: https://www.eso.co.uk/digital/
  • Podium Time Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PodiumTimePod

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How do we become better conductors? How do we become better people? And how can we be sure that we’re ready to make the most of every lucky chance that we get?

These are the questions we discuss and answer in this interview with conductor Kensho Watanabe. We talk about the most important lessons about music and life that Kensho learned from working under Yannick Nézet-Séguin, and how to apply them to build the habits of excellence and connection in everything that we do.

This week we discuss:

  • Kensho’s path to becoming a conductor, and how having a solid support system is critical when you take the step into a career that’s not guaranteed (02:48)
  • The “lucky breaks” that Kensho took advantage of and how his hard work helped introduce him to Yannick Nézet-Séguin (18:33)
  • How Kensho came to play violin with the Philadelphia Orchestra before he was the assistant conductor, and how much you learn from playing under a conductor rather than just observing (30:15)
  • Lessons about music and having the courage to make your concerts bloom, rather than just confirming the rehearsals (40:23)
  • How Kensho learned from Yannick to be the most positive, encouraging, and supportive person in the room (45:11)
  • How to become better at talking and connecting with people (53:30)
    Identifying the students that are worth investing in, and how to truly become a better conductor (1:08:25)
  • Hidden Gem and Final Advice (1:24:09)
    • Viet Cuong: Extra(ordinarily) Fancy - Concerto for Two Oboes
  • Kensho’s podcast, the Classical Gabfest (1:26:45)

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Today we're talking with Mei-Ann Chen, Music Director of Chicago Sinfonietta, about enhancing your rehearsals with Rehearsal Language, how she led the orchestra to win a MacArthur Award for their Theatrical and Diverse Programming, and how her Project Inclusion Conducting Fellows learn and prepare for a professional conducting career.

This interview was originally recorded for the PT100 Livestream Extravaganza to raise money for the Conducting Fellowship through Chicago Sinfonietta. This is the full interview, including over 30 minutes that were cut from the livestream presentation. Please support Project Inclusion and learn more at https://www.chicagosinfonietta.org/education/project-inclusion.

Today we discuss:

  • Chicago Sinfonietta and the Project Inclusion Program (6:15)
  • Who should apply to the Conducting Fellowship and what Mei-Ann is looking for in a conducting applicant (15:50)
  • Rehearsal Language and Auditioning with confidence for Professional Orchestra (21:12)
  • The most important lessons that Mei-Ann learned from her teachers, including Frank Battisti, Marin Alsop, Donald Runnicles, and Robert Spano (41:17)
  • How Chicago Sinfonietta won a MacArthur Award for their theatrical and diverse programming (49:04)
  • Project W and Mei-Ann’s Hidden Gem composers (55:36)
  • Final Advice (1:08:50)

Check out everything that Chicago Sinfonietta has to offer, including Project Inclusion, their virtual Membership, and their recordings for Project W on Spotify.

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Welcome to the Podium Time Episode 100 Extravaganza! This episode was originally streamed through our Facebook page on February 20th to celebrate our 100th episode and to raise money for the Project Inclusion Freeman Conducting Fellowship through Chicago Sinfonietta.
This episode features live QnA with Jeremy, Luke, and of our most popular guests, some of our earliest conducting clips, the history of Podium Time, and messages from the Podium Time family.

Please head to the Chicago Sinfonietta to make a donation in support of Project Inclusion:
https://www.chicagosinfonietta.org/donate/

This week we discuss:

  • Clips, QnA, Conducting Videos, and History (8:10)
  • Live Sessions with past favorites:
    • Thomas Taylor Dickey (59:11)
    • Kevin Noe (1:18:28)
    • Carolyn Watson (1:39:17)
    • The Podium Time Blues (by Mark Mandarano) (1:56:48)
    • Tito Muñoz (1:59:04)
    • Brett Mitchell (2:19:06)
  • Final QnA (2:41:09)

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Today we're talking with Ankush Kumar Bahl, Music Director Designate of the Omaha Symphony and founding member of EverythingConducting.com.

Ankush has been incredibly intentional with his career by being strategic in crafting a narrative and seeking out the teachers and opportunities to help him achieve a series of clear goals. Today we talk about his process for designing his career to be exceptional, and why he can never fail at it. We also talk about how to read the room to make sure that you're pursuing something you can excel at, and how to find the clear next steps on your journey to being a conductor at any level.

The PT100 Live-Stream Extravangaza is coming on February 20th, 2021. Join us at 1 p.m. Eastern Time on our Facebook Page. Use this form to submit questions and nominations for the top episodes of Podium Time: https://forms.gle/b8kA73cp66FJ9KeE9

Today we discuss:

  • Ankush’s path to the podium and what drew him to conducting (1:13)
  • How to design a career for success by discovering what is possible and being intentional with your next actions (5:56)
  • The qualities that Ankush identified about almost all top-tier conductors, and how you can apply those lessons to critiquing your own videos (14:04)
  • Why it’s important to “Read the Room” while designing your future why you should avoid paths that you won’t be great at. (20:56)
  • Defining Success for yourself by getting objective feedback on your potential, and setting reasonable expectations and bottlenecks (32:06)
  • How to reverse engineer any career to determine the concrete next steps towards success (45:01)
  • Why you must “plant seeds” in every relationship, interaction, and opportunity you have (53:56)
  • Why it’s critical to craft a narrative for your career (1:04:06)
  • How Ankush and his colleagues are contributing to the field through EverythingConducting.com (1:19:20)

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Today we’ve got a special episode with the conducting duo of Kevin Suetterlin and Mathias Elmer, Co-Music Directors of Sinfonietta Memphis.

In this episode, we dive into how two conductors (and friends) can collaborate and learn together, plus how they founded the orchestra and create incredible engagement in their education programs.

This episode also features some fascinating new information that changes how we should consider Beethoven's Metronome Markings and the story of how Kevin got a beer named after him!

The PT100 Extravaganza is coming on February 20th, 2021, so use this google form to sign up, submit your questions, and submit nominations for the BEST episode of Podium Time: https://forms.gle/PzLYvh1VqhYMtCbPA

Today we discuss:

  • How Kevin and Mathias met in Switzerland and each found their way to studying and conducting together in the U.S. (3:28)
  • How Kevin and Mathias founded Sinfonietta Memphis, a collaborative orchestra with two Music Directors focused on Classical Performance Practice (13:47)
  • The simple change to education programs that makes them wildly more engaging and effective at connecting with your community (23:33)
  • How Sinfonietta Memphis works like a family of musicians (27:48)
  • The Sinfonietta Memphis Academy for Classical Performance Practice and new information that changes how we should consider Beethoven’s Metronome Markings (32:48)
  • How Sinfonietta Memphis uses alternative venues and structures to connect with new symphony audiences (46:18)
  • Leading an orchestra during COVID-19 and how chamber music can help you and your players (55:36)
  • The Online Conducting Academy with Sinfonietta Memphis, Hidden Gems, and advice on creating a fulfilling career (1:00:19)

Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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Today we talk with Sarah Ioannides about how she founded Cascade Conducting to share her experiences and the lessons from her conducting teachers, how to create an effective collaboration, and how creating videos to accompany Symphony Tacoma's virtual concerts led her to a deeper appreciation of her orchestra and the music.

Today we discuss:

  • Sarah’s early experiences as a musician and how that led to her becoming a conductor (2:50)
  • How Sarah shares the lessons she’s learned from great teachers with a new generation of students through Cascade Conducting (12:35)
  • Using your repertoire list to help identify your niche as a performer, and Sarah walks us through her specific focuses (20:03)
  • How Sarah started working with Tan Dun as his Assistant Conductor, and her process of commissioning both new music and new films to accompany existing pieces (25:43)
  • The most important factors for working successfully with a symphony staff and orchestra, and why it’s our job to express why our music is important (33:37)
  • Symphony Tacoma’s virtual schedule during COVID shutdown and how Sarah’s project of creating visuals for archived concerts has helped her connect more deeply with the piece and her orchestra (40:00)
  • Advice Sarah received but regrets not following, Hidden Gems, and a Harry Potter quote for her Billboard (50:24)

Podium Time episode 100 is coming on February 20th, 2021! Sign up for the live stream and submit your questions here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeq5gI_Tens-1Q_Ipk5DitjyK8Cd0sjGYJFD67CdAyla9GzmQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Cascade Conducting
  • Symphony Tacoma
    • Youtube Page
    • Fire Mountain and the Tabla Concerto
    • Rachmaninoff 3rd piano concerto

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Tune in today for a special episode to recap 2020 on the podcast. Jeremy and Luke look at every episode we released this year and then share their top 3 of the season. Plus, fascinating stats about our download numbers and some sneak peeks into what 2021 will bring for the podcast.

And don't forget to check out the video version of this episode on youtube: https://youtu.be/D1I7Ys9aNP0

Today we discuss:

  • Some fascinating download stats from 2020 (1:28)
  • A quick recap of every episode from this year (3:56)
  • Our top 3 episodes of this season (24:21)
  • Fun facts from this year and a peek at episode 100 (36:12)

Submit your questions, comments, nominations, and sign up for our episode 100 live stream here: https://forms.gle/FtX8C23FWEDsc1j5A

Other links:

  • PaGu Batons
  • Sticky Notes Podcast
  • Let's Talk Off The Podium
  • Everything Conducting and the Upbeat Podcast
  • The Daffodil Perspective

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Today we discuss:

  • Why it’s not unusual to start studying to be a conductor as an undergraduate, and the benefits of learning to conduct from the beginning instead of waiting until grad school (2:59)
  • Fundamental skills for conductors, and a curriculum for Miguel’s students (9:01)
  • How Miguel and the Conducting Institute have embraced technology to continue teaching valuable skills over distance during COVID-19 (18:13)
  • Why it’s important that we emphasize the fundamentals, and how our respect for the music extends through our preparation and to the audience (23:22)
  • The ABCs of score study and score reading, and why Fixed-do is superior to Moveable-do for conductors (28:13)
  • The attitudes critical to learning to become a successful conductor, and the marathon of preparation that was studying with Otto-Werner Mueller and Kurt Masur (36:26)
  • The lessons of life brought to Miguel through having children and giving a shallow performance of The Planets (47:59)
  • Why music is important, an unexpected hidden gem, and the power of a smile (56:31)

Other Links:

  • Miguel's Website
  • University of Nebraska Omaha, School of Music
  • The Conducting Institute
  • Miguel's Conducting Program for High School Students

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Today we talk with Anna Edwards, Music Director of the Seattle Collaborative Orchestra, the Saratoga Orchestra, and the Pacific Northwest Conducting Institute, about how and why to seek out music by underrepresented composers, why conductors (women especially) should embrace their own physicality and body type, and why being comfortable on the podium is critical to leadership.

Today we discuss:

  • Anna’s journey to conducting through performance and education, and how she made the transition towards professional conducting and harder repertoire (1:07)
  • Programming works by a woman or BIPOC composer on every concert, and how Anna approaches commissioning new and fascinating collaborative pieces (6:16)
  • How Anna finds music by underrepresented composers, and the inception and evolution of her project “100 days of Social Distance Listening” (10:51)
  • About the Pacific Northwest Conducting Institute, and how Anna and Diane Wittry differ in teaching styles (21:40)
  • The surprising results of Anna’s research on female conductors, orchestra perceptions, and physicality (26:35)
  • Conducting and teaching for different body types (33:06)
  • Advice for young conductors on finding comfort with your leadership style (44:01)
  • Hidden Gems and Billboard (53:26)

Other links and topics:

  • EverythingConducting.com
  • Anna's "100 Days of Social Distance Listening"
  • Composer Leanna Primiani, On collaborating with Anna Edwards to create "1001"
  • Jamulus
  • Kenji Bunch, "Song of Sasquatch"

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Today we talk with David Leibowitz, Music Director and Founder of the New York Repertory Orchestra, about how he’s programmed 20 seasons with NYRO without repeating any pieces, how he defines and builds balanced programs, and why young conductors flourish once they can let get out of their own inward focus.

Today we Discuss:

  • How David Founded the New York Repertory Orchestra, and how he used concerts to raise engagement with his volunteer players (1:37)
  • How NYRO has been able to perform for 20 years without repeating repertoire, and how this builds trust with their audiences and sets them apart for publicity and grant writing (7:03)
  • How NYRO’s flexibility and focus on unheard repertoire attracts great soloist (21:57)
  • How David builds and defines “balanced” programs, and why they are based on music and internal logic rather than concert themes (28:23)
  • The importance of conducting opera for developing technique, and how the rhythm of language affects phrasing, accents, and just about everything else (37:25)
  • The importance of rhythmic precision, and how David developed great rhythm in school with the help of a tutor (46:52)
  • David’s early conducting teachers, and the most common problems he encounters when teaching at workshops (56:27)
  • Closing thoughts, Hidden Gems, and Final Advice (1:13:53)

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Today we talk with John Devlin, Music Director of the Wheeling Symphony Orchestra, host of the Upbeat Podcast, and a founding contributor to EverythingConducting.com. Today we talk about how to be the least-generic version of yourself, how to design a commissioning project that’s supremely exciting and relevant to your orchestra and audiences, and how innovative concert design can elevate your performances from just another classical concert to an experience.

Today we discuss:

  • How to develop the least-generic version of yourself to stand out in an applicant pool of 300 other conductors and make a greater impact for your orchestra and your community (8:05)
  • How John created “Gourmet Symphony” by melding all aspects of the experience of fine-dining with a symphony concert, and why smaller orchestras should focus more on creating an experience rather than sacrificing innovation to just play slightly better (20:23)
  • How you can take a commission one step farther to make it relevant and significant to the composer, the orchestra, and the community (31:24)
  • The origins of John’s focus on innovative concert design, and why it’s so easy to be bored with the average orchestra concert (35:27)
  • How John and the Wheeling Symphony are thriving during COVID-19 by being creative and asking what they can do well within guidelines (40:39)
  • John’s favorite living composer, and the life-changing advice he got from Marin Alsop (53:49)

Other links:

  • John's TEDx talk: Innovation in a Crowded Marketplace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE0O1FQYDDs
  • EverythingConducting.com
  • The Upbeat Podcast
  • Music by Sarah Kirkland Snider
    • Penelope
    • Mass for the Endangered

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Today we talk with Elizabeth de Brito, host of The Daffodil Perspective, the first gender-balanced, racially equitable, and inclusive classical radio show in the world, celebrating female composers every week. In its two years so far, Elizabeth has discovered and shared mountains of music that, unfortunately, you’ve never heard by women and composers of color that, unfortunately, you’ve probably never heard of. Today we talk about the issues that we must overcome to create a more inclusive art-form out of classical music, how to approach advertising and programming to move from tokenism to true inclusion, and why you should base your career on something that you’re angry about.

Today we discuss:

  • The history of the Daffodil Perspective, and how discovering Florence Price’s music helped Elizabeth live into her identity and launch a radio show to promote classical music by female composers (02:41)
  • How the diversity of composers and performers featured on The Daffodil Perspective has evolved after the Black Lives Matter movement and reevaluations of inclusion in classical music (12:42)
  • The biggest issues that lead the classical music establishment to be predominantly white, and how we can move towards a more inclusive future for classical music (17:00)
  • Approaching advertising and programming to graduate from tokenism to true inclusion, and the dangers of focusing all of our efforts on championing only a few select composers (33:19)
  • The research and hours of work that goes into each episode of the Daffodil Perspective, and how Elizabeth structures the show like programming a concert (44:03)
  • Why you should base your career on something that you’re angry about, not something that you love (51:52)
  • The best concertos by women that you probably haven’t heard yet (56:09)
  • Closing thoughts on normalizing inclusion in every area of our field (1:03:10)

You can find The Daffodil Perspective at https://thedaffodilperspective.com, and listen to the show on Mixcloud at https://www.mixcloud.com/TheDaffodilPerspective/stream.

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Today we're very excited to feature a fellow conductor and podcaster, Tigran Arakelyan. Tigran is the host of Let's Talk Off The Podium, a podcast of interviews with professional musicians of all disciplines, including Classical and Jazz. Today we talk about the variety of guests and musicians that Tigran on his podcast and his new radio show, how we can do the best possible with the orchestra that we have, whether that’s a professional, community, or youth group, and where to start if you've never listened to Let's Talk Off The Podium.

After this episode, check out Jeremy's interview on Tigran's podcast, in which we talk about the origins of Podium Time, how Jeremy started his journey towards being a musician, and some sneak peeks into Jeremy's non-musical life.

Today we discuss:

  • An overview of Tigran’s fantastic podcast Let’s Talk Off The Podium and Tigran’s musical background (4:13)
  • Exploring a variety of musical styles and guests on the podcast and Tigran’s new radio show, Exploring Music (9:45)
  • The top 3 interviews from Let’s Talk Off The Podium, and how a heartbreaking story from David Harrington of the Kronos Quartet caught Tigran off-guard (18:06)
  • Tigran’s mentors and the most important lessons he’s learned as a growing conductor (27:36)
  • Doing the best possible with the orchestra that you have, regardless of whether it’s a professional, community, or youth group (33:07)
  • The most important unknown Armenian composer, Avet Terterian (41:16)

Links for this episode:

  • Tigran's Website
  • Let's Talk Off The Podium
  • Interview with Evelyn Glennie
  • Interview with George Walker
  • Interview with David Harrington
  • Tigran's Radio Show, Exploring Music, Sundays at 3 p.m. Pacific Time
  • Avet Terterian, Symphony no. 3

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Most of you will know Gary Lewis from his Orchestral Conducting Symposium and as the Director of Orchestras at the University of Colorado Boulder. Or you may remember him from episode 2 of the podcast. But now we’ve got him here for a full episode all about learning to listen and enabling your orchestra to play like chamber musicians.

This week we discuss:

  1. Gary’s transition from a band director to professional conductor (4:51)
  2. Gustav Meier’s philosophy of conducting, and how everything we do either allows or blocks the orchestra from playing their best (8:10)
  3. How we can teach a young orchestra to play together (12:20)
  4. A new approach to silence in music, and how learning to direct our own listening can help enable the ensemble play together (21:49)
  5. How conducting lessons work over zoom, how we can use our time during COVID-19 shutdowns to practice the skills we usually don’t have the space for, and how we can learn to be our own best teachers once we’re done with school (30:30)
  6. Advice for all developing conductors, and the complexity of everything that we must think about while on the podium (41:24)
  7. Some amusing anecdotes about failure (52:46)
  8. Hidden Gems and the Billboard Advice (58.27)

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This course is incredible, and I couldn't wait to share everything that I learned with Luke and the rest of our patrons and listeners. Today, I'm walking Luke, and you, through everything that I got from Markand Thakar's "Make Beautiful Music" online course. Be sure to check it out, then sign up before the final spots for classes starting October have been filled!

We discuss:

  • Markand’s philosophy of the Transcendent Experience and how we can best make them possible for our audiences (03:18)
  • An example of how energy plays into the analysis and performance of a short piece, and hear Jeremy sing Lightly Row (11:06)
  • Practical lessons on the function of tempo and tension (18:53)
  • Practical lessons on hearing, practicing, and fixing balance (30:10)
  • Final notes on score study and how an understanding of energy helps to connect all the parts of an entire movement (35:31)
  • Closing thoughts on asking the right questions and the value of the course (37:26)

Links from this episode:

  • Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PodiumTimePod
  • Make Beautiful Music class: https://www.thebco.org/conducting/makebeautifulmusic/index.html
  • The Bowmakers Documentary (available September 12-20, 2020): http://osscs.org/

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Today we’re excited to share this episode with Phil Aguglia all about his fascinating curriculum for his students starting their instruments in high school and how he developed it to lead young musicians towards growth and success, whether they continue to study music or not. Phil sought to both learn how great teachers teach and to organize those lessons into his own curriculum, and the results are incredible. If you’d like to learn more about the curriculum or get some of Phil’s materials, send us an email at podiumtimepodcast@gmail.com and we’ll connect you with Phil.

Today we discuss:

  • Creating a rubric for his student teachers so that anybody could pick up and teach a class (3:46)
  • An Overview of Phil’s curriculum (5:00)
  • An in-depth look at the curriculum that teaches Phil’s students musicianship, technique, applied theory, and everything else they need (10:11)
  • How Phil Developed his curriculum by realizing that a student’s daily learning was more important than a single performance (21:00)
  • Engaging students in youth orchestras, in class, and online during COVID (24:36)
  • Advice for young teachers (29:22)

Mentioned in this episode:

  • PT71: “The Best Tool for the Job,” with Phil Aguglia of PaGu Batons
  • https://www.pagubatons.com
  • "The Bowmakers" at http://osscs.org/
  • Make Beautiful Music with Markand Thakar
  • The Patreon Page for Podium Time

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Today we talk with Janna Hymes, Music Director of the Carmel Symphony Orchestra. In this interview we discuss Janna’s new position in Carmel, how she sets goals in the artistic, marketing, development, and education areas to grow her orchestras, and how she communicates that vision to her board and administration. We also discuss the importance of programming for your orchestra’s community and the community of any concert, and how to use creative and varied education and pops programming to both attract new audiences and present fantastically engaging concerts.

You can hear a more recent update from Janna on the new interview show Coffee with the Maestro, hosted by past guest and very good friend Silas Huff.

Interview with Janna: https://youtu.be/LeF3Yt3rkMw
Interview with Jeremy: https://youtu.be/Z7L2yIjZu7I

Today we discuss:

  • How Janna sets goals to grow her orchestras, audiences, and communities through collaborations, new programs, and creative projects (4:30)
  • Responsibility in programming for you community as a Music Director, and how to feature new composers effectively (13:23)
  • Advice for young conductors, and the extra-musical skills that are necessary to be an effective conductor and leader (25:07)
  • One of the scariest parts of Janna’s career, and what we can learn from her experiences (34:17)
  • Using creative Educational and Pops concerts to make an impact on our communities and attract new audiences (44:11)
  • Janna’s 5-year plan for the Carmel Symphony, and how she defined and communicated growth for the orchestra’s board and administration. (1:01:15)
  • Programming hidden gems and masterworks to delight audiences with variety (1:20:45)
  • Janna’s billboard, and what to remember when you’re worried about anything (1:31:58)

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Today we talk with Kaleb Benda, Artistic Director & Conductor of the Oklahoma Chamber Symphony, Assistant Conductor of the Enid Symphony Orchestra, Music Director of the USAO Concert Band, and the #1 fan of Podium Time. We dig into how Kaleb handles lots of repertoire and how to study efficiently, the importance of creating your own opportunities, and how and why we conducts (almost) everything from memory.

Today we discuss:

  • Kaleb’s background and education (3:20)
  • Balancing repertoire for 3 different ensembles and efficient score study techniques (7:27)
  • Programming on a theme, and how to include audiences new to classical music (20:23)
  • Achieving efficient rehearsals through the 3-strikes rule and clarity (27:23)
  • We chat about music decorations and creative business cards (31:55)
  • Creating your own opportunities and the horrors of video cameras (36:23)
  • Cancelled concerts and Kaleb’s favorite music by Beethoven that you’ve probably never heard (44:54)
  • Kaleb’s most impactful workshop, and why he now conducts (almost) everything from memory (51:49)
  • How to prepare to start conducting from memory (55:33)
  • Hidden Gems and advice (1:03:00)

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Today we talk with Jeffery Meyer, Director of Orchestras at Arizona State University and Artistic Director of the St. Petersburg Chamber Philharmonic. We jump right in at the beginning of the interview by talking about the biggest issues that arise in young conductors and how we can have better ears for the orchestra’s sound. We also cover how you can develop your confidence and conviction, the importance of real relationships in music, and the most important qualities that he looks for in young conductors.

Today we discuss:

  1. The biggest issues with young conducting students, and how to listen to the ensemble and work collaboratively with the orchestra musicians (3:39)
  2. How to expand your palate of what is possible to do with an orchestra by watching rehearsals and studying recordings (7:49)
  3. How creating music is more complex than reading and interpreting the score, and how Historically Informed Practice and the instruments a composer used shape the sounds we should create (13:21)
  4. What musicianship is, and how it develops over time in a conductor (20:01)
  5. Advice for when you don’t feel confident, how to develop your conviction, and why it’s critical to make imagined sounds physical. (24:48)
  6. Jeffery Meyer’s eclectic interests (juggling, magic, composition, etc) and how they all led to him being a conductor (37:10)
  7. How Jeffery founded the St. Petersburg Chamber Philharmonic with a friend he met at a workshop, and how developing friendships with other professionals leads to new opportunities (46:53)
  8. How every detail of our conducting and interactions works towards or takes away from the trust and influence we have with the orchestra, and the importance of learning extra-musical skills (52:30)
  9. The most important qualities of a young conductor that Jeff looks for in his students, and how his priorities as a teacher have developed over time (1:00:23)
  10. Jeffery’s Hidden Gems and Final Advice (1:09:47)

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Today we talk with composer Rain Worthington about how she started composing and without a background in theory, why a rigid analytical view of music can block creativity, and why we must not think of music as a competition.

Today we discuss:

  • How New York’s Minimalist composers and the artistic culture of the city allowed Rain to experiment as a novice (13:11)
  • How Rain and Luke found freedom by releasing themselves from the confines of western musical standards. (22:09)
  • How composers and conductors fall in love with a fragment of music. (29.54)
  • Being a self-taught composer, and how thinking too much about the theory of music can block creativity in composition and performance. (34:21)
  • What makes a composer, a musician, a piece, or a performance unique when we have only 12 notes and almost everything has been done already. (40:06)
  • The emotional content of music, taking the listener on a journey, and how programs that are too specific can separate the listener from the music. (44:53)
  • Building a career by building relationships, understanding that art is not a competition, and realizing that every success for one is a success for everybody. (54:29)
  • The pieces that best reflect Rain as a composer, her compositional efforts to process the tragedy of 9/11, and how we can respond to any tragedy as artists. (1:06:45)

Links from this episode:

  • Rain’s Website: https://rainworthington.com/
  • Within Deep Currents Score
  • Livestream, August 13th: https://www.navonarecords.com/catalog/nv6298/
  • Prisma Vol. 4: https://www.navonarecords.com/catalog/nv6298/
  • Rain on the 1Track Podcast
  • Rain’s Article for Sonograma Magazine
  • Rain’s career coach, Tracy Friendlander
  • New York Women Composers: https://www.newyorkwomencomposers.org/
  • "From the 8BC to Carnegie Hall: The improbable journey of composer Rain Worthington"

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This week we’re speaking with George Jackson, a London-Based conductor who works entirely as a freelancer and Guest Conductor. We’ve split this interview into three parts as an experiment we’re running on the podcast, and this third part is all about how we can use podcasts, film music, and Steve Reich to help revitalize Classical Music in America. Be sure to check out the two previous episodes, in which we talked about guest conducting and working with a manager, and how less podium time as a student can actually be a benefit.

You will learn:

  • How podcasts can help revitalize orchestras and classical music
  • How Steve Reich’s music is like listening to Nirvana for classical musicians
  • Why film music is a powerful medium for introducing audiences to classical music

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This week we’re speaking with George Jackson, a London-Based conductor who works entirely as a freelancer and Guest Conductor. We’ve split this interview into three parts as an experiment we’re running on the podcast, and this second part is all about George’s education in Vienna and how learning deeply with less podium time can help you develop as a conductor. Be sure to check out the previous episode, in which we talked about guest conducting and working with a manager, and the next episode on how podcasts, film music, and Steve Reich can help revitalize classical music in America.

You will Learn:

  • Why we should be learning to have something to say about a piece of music
  • Some arguments for getting less podium time as a conducting student
  • Focusing on quality of interaction with the orchestra, rather than quantity
  • Why Mark Stringer didn’t want his students to conduct an amateur orchestra on the side.
  • The invaluable lessons you learn when you cannot conduct
  • The different types and qualities of podium time, and what you can learn from each

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This week we’re speaking with George Jackson, a London-Based conductor who works entirely as a freelancer and Guest Conductor. We’ve split this interview into three parts as an experiment we’re running on the podcast, and this first part is all about becoming and being successful as a guest conductor, as well as what it’s like working with a manager. Be sure to tune in to the next few episodes, all about how we can learn to be better conductors with less podium time, and how podcasts, film music, and Steve Reich can help revitalize classical music in America.

You will learn:

  • How George started Guest Conducting, and why trust and reliability is critical for being successful and called for more work.
  • How conducting is like managing a restaurant
  • How a conducting career is about your network of relationships and trust
  • Misconceptions about Artistic Management
  • How a manager can help you achieve your goals as a conductor
  • Why you should develop a clear artistic profile of what you specialize in and what you offer to orchestras

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Today we chat with to chat with Julius P. Williams, President of the International Conductors Guild and professor of conducting and composition at Berlkee College of Music. We're also experimenting with releasing some shorter, more focused podcast episodes so today is Part 2 of 2.

In our first release with Julius we talked about conducting and composing for the ensemble that you have, and today we’re going to be discussing how Julius learns scores quickly and some of the lasting lessons he took from his composition and conducting teachers. We’ll also round out the interview with a quick hit of some of his compositions you should listen to and his final advice.

Learn more and join the International Conductors Guild at ConductorsGuild.org.

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Today we chat with to chat with Julius P. Williams, President of the International Conductors Guild and professor of conducting and composition at Berlkee College of Music. We're also experimenting with releasing some shorter, more focused podcast episodes so today is Part 1 of two. This first episode from our talk with Julius is all about conducting and composing for the ensemble that you have in front of you, and how your preparation and the music you write should change depending on a few different factors, including the orchestra that you’ll be working with.

Learn more and join the International Conductors Guild at ConductorsGuild.org.

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Today we speak with Aram Demirjian, Music Director of the Knoxville Symphony, about how he transitioned from an Assistant Conductor to a Music Director, how to determine what “relevant” means to your community, and why conductors are like politicians in our responsibilities, relationships, and the influence we wield.

You will learn:

  • How Aram transitioned from Assistant Conductor to Music Director, and the critical skills that you learn as an assistant for a major symphony orchestra.
  • Why it takes decades to become an effective conductor and leader
  • Why making mistakes in any job is inevitable, and why it’s crucial that we feel good about learning from them.
  • How conductors are like politicians in their responsibilities, relationships, and influence.
  • How to determine what “relevant” means in your communities, and how embracing your community leads to them embracing your organization
  • How Aram added contemporary music to Knoxville’s programs, and which concerts made the most impact on their audiences
  • How making music can be like brewing beer
  • How to plan a program that you know will only get one or zero rehearsal

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Today we talk with Teddy Abrams, music director of the Louisville Orchestra and the Britt Festival, about redefining the orchestra for maximum impact. We talk about the future of classical music after COVID-19 and why orchestras were hit particularly hard, everything wrong with how classical music approaches education and how we can change to actually make a difference, and the qualities that make a truly incredible and successful musician. We also discuss why every conductor should be considering how they approach leadership now, before you’re neck-deep in work again, and why we should define ourselves as “musicians” and not “Classical musicians.”

You will learn:

  • Why classical music, and orchestras in particular, were unprepared for the COVID-19 Pandemic, and how we can use this opportunity to enact great change in the organizations that will learn from it.
  • Why seeing the orchestra as a performing institution is hindering the impact that we’re able to make in our communities.
  • Why our current education programs are stuck in old paradigms, and how an evolving culture requires our orchestras to adjust with it.
  • Why we should identify as “musicians” and not “classical musicians.”
  • Why Beethoven, Mozart, and Brahms would never stand for the division between art and popular music that we’ve held onto, and why they would never recognize our current models for the orchestra.
  • How Louisville is teaching its audiences to trust the orchestra and come to every concert.
  • The types of people that should not be music directors, but focus on guest conducting instead
  • How the education of conductors avoids teaching the important aspects of being a musical leader

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Today we’re starting a new program in which we interview select composers about their music and how they relate to orchestras, conductors, and audiences. We start off with Gary Kuo, an Emmy Award Winning composer of music for television and the concert hall. Gary played as a session musician for hundreds of recording projects before turning to composition. We talk about his philosophy of accessible music focused on the performers and audience, or what he calls Musical Comfort Food, how composers find their compositional voice, and how nothing is better than a great collaboration between composer and performer.

You can find Gary's music on his Website and Youtube page.

You will learn:

  • How changes in music production technology have blown open the doors of music production, and how Gary learned composition and orchestration on his own
  • Why the function of music is vital when writing for film or the concert hall, and why he describes his music as “Musical Comfort Food”
  • Why we must be our harshest critics when editing or preparing music
  • Why conductors must adjust the music to the ensemble they have to play it as best as they can
  • Why listening deeply and listening to a variety of music is critical to our craft
  • Things to consider when working with a living composer on a new piece
  • Why you should never forget about how music makes you feel

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Hello, and welcome to Podium Time. Today we’re welcoming a returning guest on the show, Maestro Gianmaria Griglio, who first appeared on the podcast all the way back on episode 18, "If You Miss a Cue." Today’s discussion is all about technique and rehearsals, and why just knowing the score is not enough to effectively communicate with an orchestra. We dig into how to translate the score into conducting gesture, how effective technique will improve your rehearsals, and when and why you should break beat patterns. We also discuss Gianmaria’s new conducting course "Pass the Baton" on the iClassical Academy and the challenges and benefits of teaching conducting digitally or through a video course.

Between our recording and this release, Gianmaria has been posting a lot of awesome conducting videos on his youtube page breaking down major pieces and showing how to apply the techniques that we discuss in this episode.

You will learn:

  • Why knowledge of the score is not enough, and how to reach the next level
  • How learning Conducting from an online teacher or course is infinitely better than learning from a textbook
  • How your technique changes the way that the orchestra watches you
  • How to derive your physical gesture from what’s in the score, and how to create conducting gestures that communicate music to the orchestra rather than only conducting in patterns
  • Why pulse and time are more important than the pattern of your beat
  • Why sound is the most important thing we do with our hands and the factors that lead players to ignore a conductor
  • How Gianmaria selected 170 opera composers for the Opera Odyssey Project and discovered the connections that we never saw before

Learn more about Gianmaria on his website, find instructional conducting videos on his Youtube Page, and check out his course on the iClassical Academy.

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Hello and welcome to Podium Time! Today we’re talking with Roderick Cox about how you should Think Before you Feel when you start conducting professional orchestras, or really any ensemble at any level. In his words: develop your intellectual interpretation before you develop your emotional interpretation. We tend to feel the music first or follow our favorite recordings, but Roderick teaches us that, especially when you move to professional conducting, you must have a well thought-out reason behind the decisions you make. We also discuss how the urgency that young conductors feel to be successful immediately is actually slowing us down because we focus too much on our image and being public before we’re ready, leaving us unprepared and not putting our best foot forward.

You will Learn:

  • The many paths to a career for young conductors, and how today’s paths are vastly different from earlier generations
  • Why your next gig will come from symphony admin, not a conductor
  • The urgency of young conductors that you should actively avoid, and why you should not put conducting videos online too early
  • How to decide in an audition if you should rehearse more with your words or with your hands
  • Arguments for and against conducting competitions
  • Why you should develop an intellectual interpretation before an emotional interpretation, and how rehearsals change when you’re conducting a high-level orchestra.

Learn more about Roderick at his website http://www.roderickcox.com

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Today David Hattner walks us through the spectacular world of Historic recordings by some of the greatest conductors of the past and what we can learn by studying their interpretations. We dig into some of the most important recordings of Brahms’ 4th symphony, how and why some conductors were different in rehearsal, live performance, and studio recordings, and look at a side of Bernstein as a conductor that you’ve never seen before. We also discuss how David came from a performance background and learned to practice conducting when he wasn’t conducting, how to teach young musicians and youth orchestras to watch a conductor, and an extra special tip on how to use a metronome correctly.

You Will Learn:

  • Why young musicians are often the best to judge of the quality of a new piece of music
  • George Szell as a leader, musician, interpreter, and teacher
  • The most important recordings of Brahms’ 4th Symphony to reveal the range of possibilities in interpretation
  • Learning how to learn from historical recordings by conductors alive at the time of Brahms and Tchaikovsky
  • The two veins of interpretation in great conductors of the past
  • How to teach young musicians and youth orchestras how to watch a conductor
  • Why you should isolate and practice basic patterns and techniques of conducting separate from any music
  • Why you should always use a metronome, but by putting it on the off-beats instead of on the beats while you practice
  • How to practice and improve when you’re not able to conduct regularly
  • The incredible music by Dvořák that you’ve never heard of

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Today we talk with Markand Thakar, Music Director and Conductor of the Baltimore Chamber Orchestra, about creating the transcendent experiences possible in your music making. We discuss how “interpretation” is not an effective word for what we can do as conductors, what Sergiu Celibidache understood about classical music and performance that almost no other conductors understand, and how Markand sought to study, practice, and teach that understanding.

You will learn:

  • How to learn “aggressively,” whether by observing rehearsals, listening to recordings, or score study
  • The benefits of auditing and not conducting at a workshop
  • What Celibidache understood that few others do, and how Markand made that his primary goal to understand and express and teach
  • Why we do art and why we do music, and understanding of the transcendent experience for the audience and the performer
  • How to practice hearing every sound on the podium
  • How what we think is “left to interpretation” is given in the piece and how we can discover it
  • Why conducting without a score is not about memorizing the music
  • How an understanding of structures and energy can lead us in an understanding of the whole work

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Today we talk with Phil Aguglia of PaGu Batons about he learned about the baton preferences of hundreds of conductors, how he started making custom batons for JoAnn Falletta of the Buffalo Philharmonic, his custom Baton for the 2020 Oscars celebration, and how differences in material and proportions affect just about every aspect of our batons.

This episode is also available in video on Youtube: https://youtu.be/b8DyJKywgEY

You will learn:

  • Why conductors may choose one baton over another
  • How to find a baton that’s comfortable
  • Why Phil doesn’t use Carbon Fiber to make batons
  • The massive effect of weight distribution on gesture, style, and tension
  • How each conductors’ job requires a specific tool
  • The custom baton the Phil made for the 2020 Oscars

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If you’re a conductor in quarantine and willing to question the meaning of music and your place in the world, then this is the interview for you! We talk with Christopher Rountree about how and why he realized he wasn’t interested in the standard career path for orchestral conductors, why classical music education is about isolating the work from its context, and how we can elevate the goals of our performance.

You will learn

  • The higher goal of musical performance
  • How Christopher approaches programming a series of concerts
  • New ways of thinking about how pieces interact with each other on a classical program
  • About the Fluxus movement in art and how we can question "What is Music?"
  • How we've forgotten to appreciate the little things, until now
  • How to redirect your rat-race energy during COVID-19 Self-Quarantine
  • Conducting is the vehicle, music is the art, now go find the right people.
  • Why you should be working with collaborators as often as possible
  • What "Education" and "Community Engagement" really mean

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Today we talk with JoAnn Falletta about what can set you apart in an audition, how to effectively communicate with an orchestra, and why we need music now more than ever.

You will learn:

  • The difference between listening alone and listening to live music
  • How JoAnn is spending her time in self-quarantine
  • JoAnn's advice for anybody taking auditions
  • What you need on the podium when you step into an audition
  • How to communicate effectively with an orchestra
  • The best new violin concertos

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Today we talk with Charles Gambetta about how you can raise your awareness of your body as a conscious mover, what conductors actually control on the podium, and how to revolutionize your conducting with Laban movement analysis.

You will learn:

  • A comprehensive system for analyzing, observing, and experiencing movement
  • How you can raise awareness of your body as your musical instrument
  • What Charles did when he realized he was no longer improving as a conductor
  • How to be a conscious mover, rather than an instinctive mover.
  • Every factor that Charles considers in the first two measures of Brahms 3

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Today we talk with Kenneth Kiesler about rehearsal technique and priorities, the things that he looks for in an audition candidate, and his workshop on the new critical edition of Appalchian Spring.

You will learn:

  • The mistakes in Appalachian Spring that Copland never fixed
  • How to fix details in rehearsal without ever addressing the details
  • Why young conductors tend to avoid the standard repertoire
  • What you can learn from watching a guest conductor work with your orchestra
  • What to do when conducting an orchestra that already knows the music

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Today we’re talking with Apo Hsu, and this interview has been literally years in the making. She was the conductor of our city’s orchestra before we started in music, so we just missed her there by a few years. And then when Luke and and I were at Bard in 2016 we finally set concrete plans to start Podium Time just before spending an incredible week working with Apo at the workshop, so she was one of the first guests we wanted on the podcast. Long story short, that interview finally happened a few months ago and the wait was worth it!

Today you will learn:

  • How our bodies can get in the way of our expression
  • How we can learn physical expression from Peking Opera
  • Why we are actors and how to develop your potential
  • How to "Change Face" and express what's actually in the music

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Today we talk with Ian Passmore about how opposite conducting styles can synergize, why you should join the Conductors Guild, and how to show the ensemble that you trust them.

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Today we talk with Joshua Weilerstein about the surprising things he’s learned from hosting a Classical Music Podcast, why a chamber orchestra may be ideal for a Brahms Symphony, and how a teacher can identify what’s behind your bad habits.

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Welcome everybody to the 2nd bonus episode between seasons 3 and 4 of Podium Time. Today I’m really excited to share with you another clip from my time in Bulgaria this summer. In it, Don Schleicher shares the 12 ingredients to make a perfect conductor. These were compiled by Don and Gustav Meier, and now Don shares them at his workshops, and he was kind enough to allowed me to record and publish this in the podcast feed. This recording is from the 2019 International Conduting Workshop and Festival in Sofia, Bulgaria that I attended with Don and Larry Rachleff this past summer.

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Hello, and welcome to the first bonus episode from Season 3 of Podium Time. Today we're sharing a new format that we've put together for our patrons over at Patreon: the PT Recap!

After each interview we conduct, Luke and I recap what we've just discussed with the guest and share it with everybody supporting our Patreon at $4 and up per month. So you can get the inside scoop months ahead of when each interview comes out and support the podcast at the same time!

For more information on what awesome bonuses you can get for supporting the podcast, visit our page at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod, or listen through to the end of this episode.

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We're ending this season on a high note! Today we talk with Matthew Salvaggio, Music Director of the Euclid Symphony, University Heights Band, and Orchestra 19 about how we can bring our volunteer and community ensembles to a new level by collaborating with new artists and composers. We talk about rehearsing and growing these groups to lead them towards greater music and music making together, and how you can commission new pieces and bring in guest soloists with a limited budget. Plus, how is our academic system flawed for the 21st century student, and what can orchestras do to ensure a brighter future for all of us? All of that and more in "Elevate your Community Groups," with Matthew Salvaggio.

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Today we talk with Tito Muñoz about why orchestras don’t actually lag behind the conductor, why we should update our understanding of the Rite of Spring, and the ultimate advice for improving as a musician.

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What does it really take to be a successful conductor? Today, Tito Muñoz walks us through why technique is the least important thing that we need on and off the podium. He walks us through his definition of musicianship and how we can develop it, and why leadership is the most important skill we can build.

You will learn:

  • Why David Zinman was happy to accept musicians to his conducting program with no conducting experience
  • How Paavo Järvi taught what was actually important for being a conductor
  • What an audition can teach you about the job you're shooting for
  • How to start feeling like a conductor instead of a student
  • And why Tito's audition for his future studios includes absolutely no conducting

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Today we talk with Ming Luke, Principal Conductor of the Nashville Ballet, about the vocabulary of ballet dancers, how to work with Choreographers and directors, and why communication is everything.

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Today we talk with Jordan Randall Smith about Florence Price and the upcoming festival dedicated to her work, the process of finding hidden gems by underrepresented composers, and why we should focus our efforts on promoting fewer living composers more.

Also, join the new Podium Time Inner Circle Facebook Group to continue the conversation and share your favorite pieces that deserve to be heard!

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In this episode we talk with Jordan Randall Smith about how Symphony Number One reaches an audience thousands of times the size of their local community, making the most lemonade from your lemons, and how you can combine artistic and business models to form an ensemble.

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When I say incredible, I don't just mean every-day incredible. This recording is absolutely incredible. Larry Rachleff walks us through the first two parts of Petrushka at the 2019 International Conducting Workshop and Festival in Sofia, Bulgaria. He goes in to every detail of what it takes to conduct and rehearse and what's going to go wrong with whom and when, and then how to fix it. It's our longest and most valuable episode yet!

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We've got something different for you this week! I spent the past 2 weeks at the 2019 ICWF workshop in Sofia Bulgaria helping out and meeting 35 fantastic conducting students and teachers.

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This week we talk with Alexandra Enyart about why you should meet everybody, how we can tell more stories, and making the most positive impact.

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We talk with Christopher Zimmerman about the drawbacks of having too many rehearsals, what to do when you think you know a piece, and what you can ruin by tuning chords.

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This week we talk with Mark Cedel about why he doesn’t like performing a work for the 2nd time, what you can learn from a bad teacher, and why he fears the Copland Clarinet Concerto.

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This week we discuss:

  • Mark's path to the podium
  • The best advice for before you become a conductor
  • Never forget that you are a member of the orchestra
  • How Mark helped transform the University of Georgia Orchestras
  • Why the first concert is the easiest to program for
  • "Mark the macro, but know the micro."
  • You can make a mistake, but only do it once
  • The greatest joy of conducting is not conducting
  • Hidden Gems
  • Mark's Billboard

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This week we talk with Erin Freeman about what to avoid when writing a pre-concert lecture, what it means to be a servant, and why you must make form charts.

This week we discuss:

  • Why you should conduct winds as if they're pizzicato
  • What she learned from taking six conducting classes in her undegrad
  • What it means to be a servant
  • What to avoid when writing a pre-concert lecture
  • The first joke I've heard that combines conductors and violas
  • Why you should focus on the basics
  • Your job as a student
  • Erin walks Luke through considerations of Mozart's Requiem
  • Conducting works with chorus for Orchestral Directors
  • How Erin's study helped her prepare for a concert with only 12 hours' notice
  • Why you need to make form charts
  • What instruments we would like to play
  • The Defiant Requiem Project
  • Why preparing requiems is fun
  • Louise Ferranc
  • Hidden Choral Gems
  • Why you should remember Pablo Casals

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This week we talk with Harvey Felder about developing a relationship with your audiences, one reason that you should walk away from an interview, and why you need to eat your vegetables!

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This week we talk with Paul McShee about how to force yourself into leading efficient rehearsals, the advice and issues that Marin Alsop focuses on her with her students, and how every step of Paul’s score study process helps demystify the score.

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Today we discuss: Creating a Positive Rehearsal Environment, how to use your conducting to encourage listening within the ensemble, and the question you should ask yourself before every rehearsal.

As we gathered for our first discussion with Maestro Schleicher at last month’s ICI workshop in Boulder, we expected a general Q&A over many topics. How surprised were we when he pulled out his briefcase and read us a list of prepared presentations he’s made at workshops around the world! They included Score Study, The 12 Ingredients for a Great Conductor, Opera, Rehearsal Technique, Winds for the non-wind conductor, Percussion for the non-percussionist, and more. He brought examples of his form charts for the score study discussion, his maps of every scene in Cosi and Boheme for the opera discussion, and a bulleted list of topics for every other. And how grateful was I when he allowed me to record this presentation on rehearsal technique for a special Podium Time Episode! 

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From Gunther Schuller and Frank Battisti, Ching-Chun Lai learned how to approach scores as a composer and identify style and architecture. Today we speak about that and more as Ching-Chun walks us through her score study process, building the most important foundations of a conducting education, and making the most of your resources as a student. Plus, we talk about some of the drawbacks of getting a job right out of school and how to prepare for effective rehearsals.

This week we discuss:

  • Ching-Chun’s Path to the Podium
  • Crane School of Music
  • Working on the details with Gunther Schuller
  • Studying the score like a composer
  • A walk through the score study process
  • Preparing for efficient rehearsal
  • Distancing yourself from a work you know aurally
  • Eight Songs for a Mad King
  • Foundations of a conducting education
  • Learn what you can about every instrument
  • Gstaad Mehunin Festival Academy
  • Drawbacks of getting a job early
  • Hidden Gems:
  • Ching-Chun’s billboard

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It's finally here! We are so excited to be starting this Patreon page and being able to offer you fine listeners some incredible extra content. You'll hear me mention how I've wanted to do many things for a long time, and so many of them are finally coming together today! Give it a listen below, or head over to Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod to sign up!

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We’ve been excited to talk with Maestro Kiesler for a while, and this interview is everything that Luke and I hoped that it could be. Friends have told us all about the Conductors Retreat at Medomak and Kiesler’s view and style of score study, and we dig deep into both of those things in this episode. And before we continue, do know that as of this episode they are still taking participants for the 2019 summer session, so sign up!

In this episode, we talk about the culture at the retreat, including how the only competition is with yourself, and about the beauty and importance of being in nature. We also talk about what the actual goal of score study is. I’ve been struggling with this since I started, and I’m sure that a whole bunch of our listeners are as well, but Maestro Kiesler explains perfectly how he comes to absorb a score and really own it as a piece, as well as some methods to achieve that deeper appreciation and understanding. We also dig a bit into the brains of Puccini, Britten, and Mahler in some of Kiesler’s escapades, and get some vicarious sage advice from Boulez. Finally, we discuss one of the biggest drawbacks of how conductors and search committees now are looking at videos, and how we’ve started watching and stopped listening. So plug in your headphones and absorb this incredible interview for an hour and a half, then put it away and take a walk in nature.

This week we discuss:

  • The Conductors Retreat at Medomak and why it's an important experience for both developing and established conductors
  • The goals of score study: forming an internal image and owning a score
  • The Youtube Effect on conductors and search committees: why we watch instead of listen
  • Hidden Gems
  • Kiesler’s Billboards

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What’s the greatest problem with how we’re educating our educators? This week, Luke and I sit down with William LaRue Jones to dig into reasons you shouldn’t go to graduate school, what Juilliard students conducted every year, and why you need to practice conducting.

This week we discuss:

-The steep learning curve of teaching
-Conducting is the only thing that includes every area of your musical education
-Relate everything to the score
-The great problems when we train music teachers
-Don’t recycle your old interpretation
-Grad School is not for professional conductors
-Hidden Gems and programming underrepresented groups 

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I had so many different titles that I wanted to put on this episode. We talked about building your library of lessons and teachers and experiences, the art of music, and how to hack your microwave. It was so hard to pick just one. A big part of what we discuss in this episode is exactly what we’re doing with Podium Time: learning from as many teachers as we can. Charles’s revelation about music while studying in Vienna really hit me as something that I’d been hearing all over but have had trouble applying: Music is about Art, not Correctness. I notice it in my preparation for a workshop, trying to think of everything that the teacher could think of and forgetting that we’re creating expression with what we do. Let this episode really spark a new appreciation for what we are doing on the podium and on our instruments any time we create music. Let it inspire your teaching! And while you’re teaching, own your mistakes!

This week we discuss:

  • Teaching what a conductor does
  • How to use recordings
  • Learning from multiple teachers
  • Mark everything in your score – Build a Library of Markings
  • Benefits of a large program
  • “For me now, music has become about art and not about correctness.”
  • What you can learn from a scale
  • The joy of concertos
  • Freedom to experiment in rehearsal and performance
  • Notes on programming underrepresented works
  • Charles’s Billboards

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This week we discuss:

  • Foster’s Path to the Podium
  • Why do conductors live so long, and why do they all play trombone?
  • How Middle-school is like College
  • Focus on the Big Picture
  • Rotating the string seating
  • Foster’s Teachers:
  • Hidden Gems
  • Foster’s Billboard

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Today we sit down for a fantastic in-person discussion with a long-time friend, Dr. Christopher Koch. We were so glad to get this opportunity while Jeremy was in Missouri for Christmas, and the results do not disappoint! Get the new year started with this incredible interview.

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Kick-Ass doesn’t even begin to describe Kevin Noe. Actor, writer, conductor, and lover of fine headphones, Kevin is our most-requested guest on the podcast yet, and today he walks us through his exploration of Mozart 40, the celebration of dissonance, and an awesome opportunity for mixing music and wine this summer.

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It turns out that conductors are pretty busy during the holidays. Who knew! So, since everybody's busy with performances of the Nutcracker, Jeremy is going solo today and sharing some of my favorite podcasts and books for all you conductors and students out there.  

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Today, Luke and Alex lead our first interview with a Band Director, Dr. Michael Mapp, and it does not disappoint in the slightest. His answer to Luke’s question about what our education is lacking hits home in more than one way. What are you bringing to the music that you conduct and how are you leading your ensembles? We cover directing different age groups, the experience of score study, and what our education is lacking. 

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You’ve got recitals to schedule and you’ve got audition videos to make, but how? Today, Luke and I share our 3 Steps to Forming an Ensemble and getting players together for your recital: What, When, and Who. 

Tune in to find out why this order is critical, how to keep rehearsals professional, and tips to improve your rehearsal technique.

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Doesn’t matter how good you are if they never see you! Today (well, actually, last month) Luke and I sit down to discuss building our resumes and tips for putting them together. Find out what we’re doing now and some of the best ways to show the committee that you’ve got what it takes.

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Today we sat down to talk with Maestro Nick Carthy, who’s traveling the world as you read this! Maestro Nick is the opera conductor at CU Boulder as well as a regular guest conductor around the globe. He shares with us his incredible line of teachers, tips for entering the opera field, why Powder Her Face is a masterpiece, and our futures as conductors.

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Stop! Why are you mirroring? Put your left hand down! Stop conducting! What is that hand doing? Why are you mirroring again?

Have you heard these words screamed above an orchestra? Today we tackle the a perennial issue for young (and some experienced) conductors: how to develop your left-hand. Luke and Jeremy discuss some tips, exercises, and principles for building your vocabulary and ending the dreaded mirroring.

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On reference from not one, but two of our listeners, we are speaking this week with Michael Isadore! Michael is a busy conductor, teacher, and performer who leads players of all ages and experiences. We discuss teaching strings when you’re not a string player, why you should always play your instrument, and dealing with the “educator” stigma in our conducting culture.

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In Part 3 of our series on researching and getting into your perfect school, we tackle the final step: auditioning! Jeremy and Luke share some tips and their experiences with auditions including preparing to conduct a piece you haven't conducted before.

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The title explains it all! Today we are incredibly excited to feature as our first return guest on the Podium Time Podcast: the incredible JoAnn Falletta! This week, JoAnn talks with us about how she schedules her study for concerts 1 year out and 1 week out, the many shades of leadership on the podium, and how you are always learning from the orchestra.Support the show

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Now onto those pesky conducting videos! Part 2 of our 3-part series on getting into a Master's program deals with preparing your audition videos to get the best quality and most attention. How closely should you follow the video requirements? What about rehearsal footage? Does this count as "performance" footage? How should the video start? We discuss this and more in this episode of Podium Time.Support the show

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Once you've met Buddy Langley, you'll never forget him. Today Luke and I reconnect with a friend who has strong opinions about Cincinnati Chili and is quickly becoming a rising star conductor. Buddy walks us through starting his ensemble, the Memphis Repertory Orchestra, and how relationships are one of the most important aspects of our art.Support the show

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It's that time of year when seniors scramble to research programs, visit campuses, and submit materials. But how do you find a master's program that fits you? How do you find a teacher that's just right? Today Luke and Jeremy discuss how to find and decide on a Master's in conducting program that works for you. This is part one of a three-part series on applying and getting into a program. Support the show

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What does it take to design a full 53 concert season? Today we sit down with the Colorado Symphony’s Chief Artistic Officer Tony Pierce to discuss how the season is put together, how to secure soloists like Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman, and how they decide on what guest conductors to invite back. Tony also shares some of the CSO’s most exciting concerts coming this season, including the premier of a new genre!Support the show

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The Podium Time audience has spoken! Luke and I are incorporating shorter discussion episodes into this second season and the listeners (accidentally) decided on the first topic. The question that we've been sent the most by our listeners is...drum-roll... whether one should pursue a master's in band or orchestral conducting! Today, Luke and I sit down to chat through the different options in terms of style, range of groups, and repertoire, as well as how you can get a bit of experience in both.Support the show

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It's Bernstein's 100th Birthday! Today we're digging into the archive with a re-edited version of our discussion with Peter Bay on Bernstein and his Mass.Support the show

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Today we continue our talk with Benjamin Rous and discuss his experiences conducting from the harpsichord (with some twists!).Support the show

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Podium Time turns 1 year old today!!! Celebrate with your hosts as we go over the past year, talk about their new positions and plans, and announce some changes coming in the next season. Please reach out by email or via our Facebook page to let us know what YOU want to hear about on Podium Time.Support the show

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We return from break with an extra treat from our recent discussion with Brett. He walks us through his programming philosophy with a few examples from the Colorado Symphony's upcoming season.Support the show

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The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Home Alone, Fantasia, E. T., The Godfather. We see headlines like these on symphony seasons more and more often, but what is it actually like to conduct one? Today Luke and I sit down with Benjamin Rous to talk about the least forgiving soloist: film! We discuss the specifics of working with these pieces, some of the biggest challenges, and get philosophical on the intersection between artistry and recreation.

This week we discuss:

  • Vocabulary and setup of accompanying scores
  • Rehearsing with film
  • The best films to accompany
  • Conducting and playing with a click track
  • Changing tempo with the click
  • Creation vs. Recreation
  • Tempo challenges in Film vs BalletFind out more about Benjamin Rous and contacting him on his website: BenjaminRous.com Support the show

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Today we get into the weeds on assistant conductor auditions and more. Brett Mitchell is starting his second season as the Music Director of the Colorado Symphony, and he has had a whirlwind of activity since conducting CSO for the first time less than two years ago. We get into how he accidentally auditioned, the details of their recent assistant search, and the organic changes that come with a new leader.This week we discuss:

  • First encounters conducting the Colorado Symphony
  • Details of the assistant conductor search
  • The biggest mistake you can make when applying for anything
  • Changes with a new Music DirectorConnect with Brett Mitchell on Twitter and Facebook at @MaestroMitchell and Facebook.com/BrettMitchellConductor Support the show

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We met Carolyn Watson three years ago, and now we've finally gotten the chance to sit down and speak with her! We discuss her new position at KU and how she got there, why you need to find your "best fit", and some great hidden gems.This week we discuss:

  • Watson’s Path to the Podium
  • Opportunities and competition in the U.S. vs Australia
  • David Zinman’s 3 “takeaways”
  • Communicating standards to younger musicians
  • Teaching on the podium
  • Researching and winning a position
  • Finding your "best fit"
  • Hart Institute for Women Conductors
  • We are public figures
  • Hidden Gems
  • Tailoring the program to your students
  • Deciding in the moment
  • Just do it, and keep going! Support the show

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This is an interview that we’ve been looking forward to since before the podcast launched, and we were honored last week for the chance to finally talk shop with Diane Wittry, the author of two essential books for both young conductors and Music Directors: Beyond the Baton and Baton basics. This week we talk about how to build a vocabulary of gestures, why you need to consider every opportunity, and the importance of creative programming for your audiences.We discuss:

  • A conductor’s two career paths
  • Baton Basics: Communicating Music through Gesture
  • Why you should consider every opportunity
  • Four points of advice for all students/young conductors
  • Programming a Purple Cow Support the show

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Just in time for Workshop season, today’s episode is a mini-masterclass on everything about workshops. Thomas Taylor Dickey has been to just about every one and shares how to pick the right ones, apply for them, prepare for them, and learn as much as possible while you’re there. We also discuss some of his favorite masterclasses and the important differences between workshops in Europe and America.Support the show

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Have you ever seen the Bernstein Mass? Well, this is the year to do it! Today we talk with Peter Bay, Music Director of the Austin Symphony Orchestra, about his upcoming performance of Bernstein’s Mass, fully staged for the first time in the entire state of Texas. Bay also shares some actionable advice for deepening your score study and preparing for the duties of an assistant conductor.This week we discuss

  • Experiences with Fred Prausnitz
  • How interpretations change over time
  • "Solo Symphony"
  • Bernstein's Mass in Austin
  • Music and Time in Wes Anderson's Music
  • Schumann Symphony no. 2
  • The "Brahms" exercise

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A violin is a violin, but no two singers are the same. Today we talk with Gianmaria Griglio about the importance of imagination, the most important aspect of score study, and how we expect people to listen to concerts. This week we discuss:

  • Music education in the U.S. and Europe
  • On conducting opera
  • Conductor mistakes
  • The people in the orchestra are not stupid
  • A violin is a violin everywhere, but a singer…
  • On opera rehearsals
  • Imagination
  • Balancing conducting and composition
  • A brief rant on contemporary music Support the show

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This week we discuss:

  • The Chromatic Endpin
  • The Entrepreneurial Musician (one of Jeremy's favorite podcasts)
  • Make It: A Guide for Recent Music Graduates
  • The “Real World” and Accountability
  • Building Habits and Breaking down Goals
  • The “Sticker Project”
  • Mistakes from Students Fresh out of School
  • Creating a Shared Experience
  • Advertising Done Right
  • Classical Concerts vs. Movies
  • The Conductor that Ticks Everybody Off…You can reach Emilio at his website, www.emilioguarino.com, or on instagram at @Emiliothinks

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What can we learn from teaching? Lawrence Golan's Score Study Passes have been mentioned more than once in the short history of our podcast, and today you can learn how he dissects a score from the man himself. We discuss his method, Academic vs Professional conducting, and some of the biggest shortcomings in our education.This week we discuss:

  • Applying for jobs
  • Academic vs Professional Conducting
  • Golan's Score Study Passes and Method
  • Preparing lots of Music
  • Books and Resources
  • Shortcomings in Conducting Education
  • The All-knowing Billboard Support the show

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Before the founding of Podium Time, Luke and I compiled a list of conductors that we just had to have on the podcast, and Eduardo Navega was right at the top! We worked with him at the Bard Conductors Institute (I've typed that sentence so many times on these pages!) and every student there could attest to his kindness and love of the craft. We were both surprised, looking back, that it took us this long to have him on the show (our fault, not his!), but here he is, and we're excited to share this conversation with such a great conductor and teacher.Support the show

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Part 2 is here! Due to snow, our interview with Silas Huff was a bit extended, so this week we are including all the great information that we couldn’t fit into the first episode! We discuss all things about conducting workshops: running, applying for, and attending, as well as understanding your body, listening to recordings, and how to optimize your resume.Support the show

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References leads to more references! Our guest from episode 6, Christopher Kelts, suggested that we reach out to Silas Huff, and what a great suggestion it was! After listening to every episode we’ve published, Huff popped onto Podium Time and enjoyed our longest interview yet! Are you making the music sound better? If not, you’re doing something wrong! Tune in next time for the second half of our discussion, and some advice on applying for workshops from somebody who runs them!Support the show

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How do we break into the scene and build relationships that lead to conducting work? Robert Debbaut talks with us about how he “hung out” with Gustav Meier for a year, the extra-musical benefits of observing the Chicago Symphony, and how he started an orchestra by emailing almost 600 strangers.Support the show

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Today we talk again with my teacher Maestro Wes Kenney about his detailed Score Study method, identifying what conducting students need to learn, and the importance of Human Connections.Support the show

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It’s Christmas at Podium Time and we have a very special episode for you. Wes Kenney is director of Orchestras at Colorado State University, where Jeremy studies, and is Music Director of the Fort Collins Symphony, Opera Fort Collins, and the Denver Young Artists Orchestra. Today he takes time out of his (much-needed) Christmas vacation to talk with us about why we need a mentor, his special pedagogical tools, and the personalities of composers. He also shares with us a great list of contemporary music and unique recordings, so start your new year right. And be sure to listen all the way to the end to hear what Wes Kenney would like on his tombstone!Support the show

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This is part 2 of our interview with Viswa Subbaraman. Today we continue our previous conversation about the business of orchestras, as well as get into the weeds about what you won't learn in your conducting degree.Support the show

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In the first installment of this two-part episode, we talk with Viswa Subbaraman about starting a contemporary opera company, the role of the orchestra, and why we need to be able to communicate with administration and marketing.Support the show

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Luke and I have mentioned the Bard Conductors Institute and Harold Farberman many times already in the few months that the podcast has been out, but today we finally talk with a friend from the Institute who decided to study at Bard with Farberman after his experiences there. Michael Patterson just started his Master’s with Farberman this Fall, and he’s got plenty to say about it already. Today we discuss his experiences at the Missouri State Conductor Workshop, conducting without tension, and studying with Harold Farberman.Show notes at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.comSupport the show

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How do you put an orchestra and a full concert together in only two rehearsals? We talk about that and more this week with Adam Torres and Noelle Bauman. When Adam approached me about a concert for the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation, I knew I couldn’t say no. Just last week that concert happened with three conductors and a fantastic orchestra of local professionals and students. Today, we discuss recruiting an orchestra, preparing a full concert in two rehearsals, and counting bars of rest.Support the show

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I met Chris Kelts for the first time in 2011 at String Fling, a summer string program hosted by Missouri State. Even before he stepped on the podium, we all knew that we were going to love him. He returned in 2015 as the newly-appointed director of orchestras at Missouri State, and I still wish I could have gotten more than one year to study with him. From Missouri State University, Luke and I talk with our friend and former/current teacher, Dr. Cristopher Kelts, and learn about the best way to schedule concerts, why you need to conduct opera, and Dr. Kelts’ unique meditation technique. Find all show notes at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.com

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What we intended to be light conversation about score study quickly turned into a full interview with one of our best conducting buddies that explores what we are doing with our lives and our music. Gerrit Scheepers is currently working towards his doctorate at Washington State, and we were so glad that he could take some time to talk with us about singing, study, sincerity, and what he has learned in his time as a conductor. In this episode, we discuss learning from within an ensemble, how to let the music create your gestures, and Luke’s adventures singing Schubert’s 8th Symphony!Support the show

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Last year I stumbled upon the perfect opener to my chamber recital on a CD by the Sinfonietta of Riverdale, a premier chamber orchestra founded and led by Mark Mandarano. Initially I contacted Mandarano to get some advice for conducting the piece and for starting an ensemble, but what he shared was so insightful and helpful that I just had to have him on the podcast for a full interview. Little did I know that our discussion would go beyond starting an ensemble and conducting chamber music and so far into the realm of score study! So, put your headphones in and learn how to get Esa-Pekka Salonen in your audience, form a conducting class at Cornell taught by Karel Husa, and start truly getting the score in your head.Support the show

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Luke and I are just starting the second year of our Master's degrees and neither of us can really believe how much we've learned and how much our conducting has changed in just one short year. We've gone through two semesters of grad school and so much has changed in how we see our schooling and our work and our lives, and today we are sharing a couple of those changes with you. Join us as we discuss building routines into your life, surrounding yourself with the right people, observing rehearsals, and working out to Mahler 5!Show notes are available at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.comSupport the show

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We have a special episode of Podium Time for you today. Luke and I had the great pleasure of attending the CU Boulder Orchestral Conducting Symposium in June this year, and our two fantastic teachers were kind enough to sit with us (for even longer) after the week was over!Show notes are available at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.comSupport the show

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For our first interview we had the immense pleasure of talking with the phenomenal JoAnn Falletta, music director of the Buffalo Philharmonic and Virginia Symphony, and the Principle Guest Conductor of the Brevard Music Center. Show notes and resources available at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.comSupport the show

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Just a quick introduction to us and the podcast.Find all show notes at PodiumTimePod.Wordpress.comSupport the show