Industry Plants with Kate Brunotts: Recent Episodes
Kate Brunotts
Hi! My name is Kate and I'm an indie artist and producer trying to figure out the music business. On this show, I'll talk with other rising artists and industry professionals about marketing, creation, strategy, and everything in between.
Tune into the episodes live: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts?lang=en
Find me other places: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
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HAPPY BRAT DAY TO ALL THOSE WHO CELEBRATE! Von Dutch + Club Classics are absolutely on repeat, 360 is the daily prayer-- I finally have succumbed to the world of CharliXCX and wow this album has very much sold me-- Charli occupies a unique space in the pop landscape where she has larger, mainstream leverage while still maintaining her native sense of experimentation.
While some may feel left out of the music, I think her strength lies in creating music for a very specific audience, using her well-earned respect to bring up unseen voices along the way.
0:00 - Brat is finally here
1:12 - Does exclusivity have to be a bad thing?
2:10 - Charli's unique position in pop
4:20 - The critique of the 360 music video and overall Brat rollout
5:30 - Is validity only earned through exposure?
6:39 - Not everything is meant for you
9:08 - Charli and the art of curation
11:11 - Make the pedestal personal
13:15 - Exclusive vs. exclusionary
15:00 - Bringing back the mysticism of pop
Referenced links:
Therapus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AAS7Ok9EiQ
NYT Essay: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/books/review/do-we-mistake-inaccessibility-for-brilliance.html
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Listen to Kattle Considerations on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/11FX5G68eYPdSlnrZYq7To?si=c10ebb89d0a842ff
Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
Spotify (Music): https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-brunotts-86bb78188/
Airbnb Icons just dropped and I am fascinated! Between Shrek's Swamp, the Barbie Mansion, the UP House, and Doja Cat there is a surprising array of experiences.While I don't take issue with most of these experiences, I think it's a great vehicle to discuss housing as entertainment, almost like the Mr.Beastification of a territory that should ideally be a human right. Same goes for the likes of AD tours, Selling Sunset, etc., which I admittedly very much enjoy! The corporatization of housing is nothing new, but it has drastically increased over the past two decades and so many are feeling the heat. Curious to hear your takes on any and all items! 0:00 - Airbnb Icons3:32 - Digital vs Physical Boundaries with Fame5:38 - Housing as Entertainment6:22 - The Erosion of the American Dream 7:22 - Short Term Rental Ethics 9:50 - The Corporatization of Housing11:21 - NYC Ghost Towns 12:41 - Private Equity and "Affordable" Housing 16:31 - The Allure of AD and Selling Sunset 17:09 - Doomscrolling Zillow Referenced links:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1MzAMdnoRw - https://medium.com/justfixorg/corporatization-of-nyc-real-estate-83e2bf191b73- https://reinventalbany.org/2023/09/new-data-37-of-manhattan-properties-owned-by-secretive-llc-shell-companies-5x-nys-average/- https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/nyregion/more-apartments-are-empty-yet-rented-or-owned-census-finds.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2- https://www.costar.com/article/1659889778/blackstone-reaches-1-trillion-in-assets-at-a-time-when-real-estate-performance-trails- https://www.blackstone.com/our-businesses/real-estate/- https://www.stuytown.com/nyc-apartments-for-rent- https://citylimits.org/2024/05/01/nyc-stabilized-tenants-on-track-for-another-round-of-rent-hikes/- https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/01/politics/insulin-price-cap/index.html____Diluted: https://beatroot.ffm.to/diluted Hi! My name is Kate and I'm an artist and musician. I like to share my creations, and I also have a series called Kattle Considerations where I dive into all things arts, culture, and the internet. Happy you're here!Listen to Kattle Considerations on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/11FX5G68eYPdSlnrZYq7To?si=c10ebb89d0a842ff Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify (Music): https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunottsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-brunotts-86bb78188/
0:00 - Benny Blanco on forgetting failure 1:24 - Why do we care?2:13 - The shame from posting on social media2:43 - The Spotlight Effect3:35 - We're all thinking too much5:30 - Don't be afraid to try publicly. 9:33 - The trap of talent13:45 - Jacob Collier on making space 14:37 - Put yourself out there____Next show in NYC: https://www.ticketweb.com/event/burnt-mirror-beauties-our-own-the-bowery-electric-tickets/13465244?pl=boweryelectric Diluted: https://beatroot.ffm.to/diluted Hi! My name is Kate and I'm an artist and musician. I like to share my creations, and I also have a series called Kattle Considerations where I dive into all things arts, culture, and the internet. Happy you're here!Listen to Kattle Considerations on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/11FX5G68eYPdSlnrZYq7To?si=c10ebb89d0a842ff Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify (Music): https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
Caroline Polachek's deluxe edition of "Desire, I Want to Turn Into You: Everasking Edition" is blowing my mind but we should not be surprised considering she's been working for this for nearly 2 decades! Between the ages of Chairlift, Ramona Lisa, CEP and producing for the likes of Beyonce + Shygirl, collaborating with Grimes, Charli XCX and so many other artists, Caroline Polachek is a story of hope, creative persistence, and the value that comes with keeping your expression true to you ❤️correction I realize Ramona Lisa was concurrent with Chairlift, not after the fact0:00 - THE indie darling0:43 - Desire, I want to turn into you1:45 - Expanding art rather than isolating it2:20 - Chairlift, Ramona Lisa, and CEP5:00 - Embarking on a solo career 6:42 - Classic opera moment 7:00 - Caroline the producer 8:15 - Longevity in art 9:00 - Caroline the curator10:30 - Innovating and resisting influence 11:40 - The beauty of creative constraints ____Hi! My name is Kate and I'm an artist and musician. I like to share my creations, and I also have a series called Kattle Considerations where I dive into all things arts, culture, and the internet. Happy you're here!Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
Getting a job right now is pretty difficult despite what's shown by the market. Between needing 5+ years of experience for an entry level role, the perfect corporate social media profile on LinkedIn, and applicant tracking systems, it's important to remember that you aren't alone in the chaos. Would love to hear your thoughts on this! ____Hi! My name is Kate and I'm an artist and musician. I like to share my creations, and I also have a series called Kattle Considerations where I dive into all things arts, culture, and the internet. Happy you're here!
Your bestie is coquette, I dream of the soft life, your neighbor bought a Stanley cup to replace the Hydroflask. How we present ourselves and determine personal style (if you can even call it that) has become ever expansive to include more items and aspects of everyday life. Though it is not fair by any means, how you dress does matter, at least to the outside world - but we can make the conscious choice to prioritize cultivating our own perspective regardless of whether or not that aligns with our immediate environment, type beat. I'd love to hear about what style and fashion means to you, and the thought process (or lack thereof, I think both are equally valid) behind how you represent yourself visually.
0:00 - The politics behind what we wear + fashion week 1:20 - “Professional” dress2:06 - The death of personal style 3:01 - Exclusion and scarcity marketing3:47 - Evergrowing aesthetics and dilution of subculture 4:38 - Quiet luxury + clothing bias 6:51 - Lana Del Rey, the Maxxinista 8:07 - The ever expanding aesthetic 9:09 - The struggle to find new voices in fashion 10:00 - Fast fashion 11:00 - Styling over Buying 12:15 - How do we find our style?
social media is officially a public health crisis (but we knew) ! I've been feeling a lot of content fatigue lately and wanted to explore what might be at the end of this endless, overwhelming technicolor road. I feel like content bloat / over saturation is more or less inevitable if not already here especially with A.I. ANYHOW! Loneliness is a big deal! Would love your thoughts! I have two shows coming up in NYC as well if you're into that sort of thing 🫶:2/3 - @heavencanwaitnyc 2/11 - @tveyenycFind me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2H... Instagram: / katebrunotts TikTok: / katebrunotts ___0:00 - god bless autoscroll 0:38 - Is digital minimalism possible? 1:48 - Digital FOMO4:40 - Does anyone want content anymore?5:52 - Winner takes all 6:40 - The inevitable downfall of genuinely fun apps 8:10 - The demise of curation and monoculture10:46 - Creator fatigue and the YouTube exodus11:24 - Cheaper, faster, empty12:05 - hope????
I've been hearing a lot about main character syndrome, main character energy, the what about me effect, pick me, etc. which I do think can bring about a lot of positive change for people. Though sometimes going so into ourselves we can lose site of all the joy there is in investing in others and also not putting so much pressure on ourselves to have an exceptional existence. Also I adore Esther Perel.
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0:00 - The Pressure of Main Character Energy
1:34 - The Positives of Main Character Syndrome
2:35 - The Big Shift
4:04 - Extreme Characterization
5:13 - The Self is a Dead End
6:00 - The Limits of Self Care
6:57 - Our Collective Lack of Self Awareness
8:17 - Americana
9:09 - Cultural Gaps
9:53 - That Girl
10:50 - We Are Lowkey Judgemental
12:15 - Blue Zones
12:50 - Finding Your Aesthetic
13:43 - Sonder!
14:27 - Your Personal Brand
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Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
Guts by miss Olivia Rodrigo, I kid you not, has dominated my on repeat ever since it came out. I've been trying to figure out precisely WHY Guts and Sour seem to hit so hard and I've landed on that they hold the pain, joy, energy, and outrage that comes with the girlhood / young adult experience and wow! I'm a fan. Favorites are likely All American, Lacy, get him back, bad idea right, ballad of a homeschool girl, I know I named like half the project but that's the point. So refreshing. Would love to hear your thoughts! ____0:00 - Intro 0:24 - Guts vs. Sour1:26 - Who am I if not...?6:25 - I know my place, and this is it!8:19 - Making space for the transition into adulthood9:30 - Discovering and defining boundaries11:08 - Sorry I couldn't be your teenage dream13:37 - Repression for the "greater good" 15:21 - Emotion! Is! Positive! 16:26 - Discrediting younger generations18:07 - Songs and Speculation 20:00 - Be yourself ❤️____Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2H... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
Listen if there is anything I love to blame the end of the world on, it is social media. Do numbers actually matter? Why are we constantly putting ourselves into states of hyper vigilance? There are far too many ways to measure ourselves regardless of what you're into but information overload is real, and can be quite a doozy!
0:00 - INTRO
0:43 - The dance between monetization and passion
3:20 - Analytic accessibility
3:52 - Spotify is Instagram
4:15 - Is more information power?
5:01 - Numbers pave pathways
6:20 - Analyzing our way to vitality
7:06 - The utility of numbers and social media
7:45 - Is bigger always better?
9:00 - We can’t escape the number of wealth
9:45 - The good, the bad, it’s all ugly
12:25 - Numbers dictating our schedules
12:50 - Digital boundaries are difficult to enforce
13:40 - Transforming your personality into a metric
14:45 - Earned privacy
15:45 - Sugar is sweet
17:00 - Can I participate in a healthy way?
18:08 - Numbers flatten the nuance
19:17 - Thx
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Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=vjGI6UlqSMa0G8ReQieLeQ
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts
From fashion, film, visual art, to music, the starving artist is very much a thing. Santigold, Elena Velez etc. are, actual superstars struggling to make ends meet and they aren't alone-- they're just brave enough to talk about it. I don't think most artists go into the profession expecting to strike riches, but it's quite surprising just how difficult it is just to make minimum wage in some of the disciplines we hold so dear. Fame does not equal funded.I'm excited that it seems across the board we're having a bit of a reckoning with labor conditions/pay transparency, so definitely hopeful for an eventual actual creative middle class? We shall see. In any case, it's important to remember to separate your art's worth and your self-worth from the numbers behind it. Would love to hear your thoughts/any personal anecdotes you have! I can primarily speak to music, but would love to hear especially from those in other industries.
CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Image tells you nothing about financial health1:55 - Fashion: Elena Velez 5:30 - Film, SAG, writers, oh my!8:48 - Visual art is a mystery, please educate me9:11 - The pressure to package your creativity into a product9:38 - Dance ! 10:45 - Patronage is nothing new11:58 - The financial ruin that is the music industry13:32 - No, you can't just "make music" 14:00 - It's getting worse15:21 - The known monopoly17:00 - Even sold out shows aren't necessarily profitable 19:58 - Why artist merch is so expensive right now21:32 - Streaming fraud and the vulnerabilities of DSPs22:30 - Lots of baby scams throughout the music business 25:00 - The problem with monetizing your personality26:24 - Fame isn't going to make you happier 28:23 - Why we should talk openly about it 29:04 - Guess what buttercup 30:38 - I am a simp
Thanks for listening :) Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts NYC Upcoming Shows:9/22 - @rockwoodmusichall 9/24 - @hartbarnyc presented by @seebeepresents
Lorde is love, Lorde is life. I am a Solar Power defender, a Melodrama Obsessor, and a Pure Heroine purist. I am very much invested in the Lorde dynasty, and am so FOR the multifaceted artist. We love miss Lorde. So ready for Silver Moon still WAITING for precious metals. But yes, Lorde was quite literally the first artist who really changed my life and has most certainly shaped who I am today as an artist. I’m endlessly grateful for her ability to set public boundaries for the sake of her well-being and her art.
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0:00 - Intro
1:14 - Let me be your RULER
2:57 - Changing the modern music landscape
4:16 - Pure Heroine changed my life!
6:00 - A series of public misunderstandings
9:05 - 2017 VMAs
10:00 - Shush gate
12:04 - Creative careers are fickle
15:10 - Music doesn't come without marketing
18:25 - Solar power and public perception
20:32 - Can you reach me?
22:00 - Rejecting the celebrity pedestal
25:00 - Reshaping the artist and fan relationship
29:00 - What's next? __Thanks for listening :)
Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2HAeSNkp97JK2tPpEoN?si=7GAI2GdpSfmG2E2JiG4aDg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunotts?lang=en
NYC Upcoming Shows:9/14 - @tveyenyc
9/22 - @rockwoodmusichall
9/24 - @hartbarnyc presented by @seebeepresents
0:00 - Intro 0:14 - Utility of humor0:45 - I love silly 1:41 - Parody tubers2:19 - Mozart's "A Musical Joke"3:44 - Unintentional or too intentionally funny songs4:34 - Using funny music to draw attention elsewhere5:12 - Education! 6:17 - Planet of the Bass 8:35 - When the audience decides it's a meme10:47 - Music and comedy are two peas in a pod11:42 - Transgression! 14:00 - Escapism 14:49 - Petition to possess a funny bone ___ The Science Behind Funny Music by Benjamin C Helton: https://medium.com/@bch51/the-science... Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1vV2H... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katebrunotts/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katebrunottsNYC Upcoming Shows: 9/14 - @tveyenyc 9/22 - @rockwoodmusichall 9/24 - @hartbarnyc presented by @seebeepresents
I have fallen too deeply down the interview hole so it's time to use some Mitski analysis to uncover some of the all too common realities of being an artist. For the record my favorite Mitski records are Puberty 2 and Laurel Hell and this was so fun I need to make more of these. 0:00 - Intro 1:10 - How I descended into the Mitski universe2:28 - Stars! They're just like us! 3:10 - Expectations v reality4:15 - Full-time art is very pricey 6:08 - Diminishing the downsides7:27 - Illusion of freedom9:20 - Marketability 10:45 - Dayjob supremacy 13:40 - Fulfillment comes in many forms Thanks for listening :) Find me elsewhere: https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts NYC Upcoming Shows: 8/26 - @bkslayage 9/14 - @tveyenyc 9/22 - @rockwoodmusichall 9/24 - @hartbarnyc presented by @seebeepresents
In this episode, I got to sit down with Jeremy, artist name Electric Neon Clouds as we delved into topics like owning your own studio and making it work as a full-time artist.
Find Electric Neon Clouds here:
https://linktr.ee/electricneonclouds
In this episode, I sat down with Steve who runs Studio Six Audio to discuss how to find production clients, positioning yourself as an engineer, and the importance of sharing what you know.
Find more on Steven here:
https://www.studiosixaudio.com
https://www.instagram.com/studiosixaudio/
https://www.tiktok.com/@studiosixaudio?lang=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-ordiano-65856b164/
I got to sit down with multi-talented artist and producer TAY and talk about Tiktok, growth, creative outputs, and the power of spreadsheets as a musician.
Find more on TAY here:
https://solo.to/taysounds
On this episode, I speak with producer, artist, singer, and photographer Sydneyunicorns about the untapped power of Clubhouse, pushing past your fear of failure, and how to cultivate a creativity community.
Find more on her here:
https://linktr.ee/sydneyunicorns
I got to talk with Sarah about release day expectations, the perks of having a day job, recording in the car, and to sign or not sign.
Listen to her new project here:
https://open.spotify.com/album/5xdpskTycc9pLoZln4QPXb?si=VkinAj-dTyCNAHdb5nZ8yQ&dl_branch=1
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@katebrunotts
Feel free to send guest requests and questions via DM.
Hey I'm making a podcast!
Also, per my discussion with myself lol I think it's important to clarify that I think you should always be transparent as an artist in terms of your background and privileges that got you to where you are today. That being said, I think there's a huge disconnect between listeners and artists regarding how music gets popular.
I do believe that good music will sell itself to some degree, BUT-- If you want to make it to a certain level, there's very few ways that you can do so without some outside assistance, marketing etc. It's odd that we blame artists and not the industry for cherry picking who and who shouldn't have a platform.
I don't even really have a strong position either way on industry plants, but I do think it's interesting how they seemed to get "exposed" more often today.
(it's also just an edgy thing to call my podcast)
Anyhow,
I hope you enjoy my conversation with all of these incredibly skilled individuals. Let's figure out how we can all become industry babies <3
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Find me other places:
https://linktr.ee/katebrunotts
@katebrunotts
Feel free to send guest requests and questions via DM.